VW Touareg 5.0 V10 TDi | Long Term Owners Review | Pros and Cons, Economy, Servicing, Reliability
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3 жыл бұрынThe Volkswagen Touareg V10 is an understated legend in the sleeper performance SUV category, but one which also comes with many horror stories about their reliability. So with that in mind, what is it actually like to own and live with one of these 5.0 V10 diesel monsters, with their excellent proportions, great handling and Viper eclipsing torque figures?
Well, here are my thoughts from the time I owned mine, to help better inform my fellow V10 fans who are considering taking the plunge on one of these appreciating monster diesels...
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@HSGAutomotive Жыл бұрын
@In the Village Tell me about it, lol. I've got a '68 Lincoln now and its a £200 tank at about £1 a mile. Makes the V10 seem like a Prius. Golf R32 as the daily though thankfully, which comes in at a nice 30 mpg average
@sadis91 2 жыл бұрын
Just incase it wasn't mentioned before and/or you didn't know, the V10 TDI engine doesn't have a timing chain haha. There are no belts or chains for the engine/accessories. Just a little interesting fact I enjoy about this engine and a funny conversation starter about the car. Great video and as a fellow 07 V10 (110k miles)owner in Canada, I can agree with your points as it is my daily driver for a year now. Good stuff!
@carhawara3394 4 ай бұрын
Good to find another person who enjoys an unique engine! Yes the "Stirnradantrieb" is crazy and also pretty much indestructable! No Chains no Pullys just forged gear wheels! I own one myself with over 250k miles on! It runs great, the only problem that comes everytime is the air Suspension. The engine just needs good care like regular in time oil changes and once a month a good long Tour to burn the engine clean.
@imnotusingmyrealname4566 Ай бұрын
It uses timing gears, right?
@sadis91 Ай бұрын
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 yep all gears
@ggibson793 3 жыл бұрын
I have owned my 2006 V10 Touareg for just over a year as well. It just turned over 170,000 miles, only about 11,000 since I purchased it. Previous owner had done a full engine rebuild at 155,000 and put in upgraded camshafts and upgraded turbos. I did find a couple of things related to that engine rebuild that weren't right, and unfortunately I had to pay for them rather than the previous owner taking responsibility. Aside from that, the only other problem I had was the center support bearing on the drive shaft failed. VW wanted about $1600 US to fix it, but I found a shop that specializes in rebuilding drive shafts that had one in stock for $400 including tax and overnight shipping. 2 evenings laying on the garage floor underneath it with wrenches and penetrating oil and it was good to go.
@GERntleMAN Ай бұрын
400 is way too much, but at least cheaper than VW
@findingforever72 3 жыл бұрын
Can attest to how this thing eats up the highway! I purchased one sight unseen and drove it 1000 miles home. Could have easily gotten at least 500 miles on a tank of fuel! Was crazy also seeing how effortless this thing cruises...doing over 100mph barely spinning 2000rpm! Simply amazing vehicle! No comparison to my v8 touareg performance wise
@philipjones3793 Жыл бұрын
This has to be the Best Review I've ever heard. And on a vehicle I almost bought when they were first introduced... I wish I'd gotten one now.
@HSGAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Well for their current used prices why not get one, they're pretty affordable
@GERntleMAN Ай бұрын
The technology is from 2000. I have a facelift V10 with TV in the roof, four zone climate control, four hearted seats, automatic trunk lid, electric towing hook, electric steering column, advance leather package and so on. Empty weight with 75L of fuel is 2830kg on mine. 11,3L average including Autobahn and towing 3,5t regularly. Great car, expensive but great. You don't buy a large V10 luxury SUV with the expectation to only have 1000€ per year service costs. Tax and insurance is 2000€/year. Oh and it's 13L of oil and there is no timing chain, that's the whole point of the engine. Apart from the injectors working themselves in the head, it's bullet proof. Given you do your service and maintenance every 10-12.000km
@Zim5.0 3 жыл бұрын
People always praise those land cruisers and hillbilly pick ups, they don't know that the touareg is also quite good! This SUV is a legend.
@MrRandomTwat Жыл бұрын
Because they are super reliable and do well with light offroad. Touareg is junk in those categories lmao, it’s just like any other luxury SUV that depreciates like crazy as it has a lot of issues and expensive to repair.
@tuworlds 3 жыл бұрын
i wish more reviewers did review like how you do. really top work that you done
@keithlewis6854 3 жыл бұрын
Great videos and incite to the V10. I have had one for a number of years now and love it to death. Few major issues but fortunately most covered by a warranty i pay for. Last major one was a new alternator. Thankfully i have a great mechanic who was able to get to the alternator which is located right at the bottom of the V from above by removing manifolds and fuel rails etc. Really considering get the engine mapped now after what you report. Really like to know more about that and what settings can be applied etc.
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't remap it. You gain some horsepower (as if the existing power isn;t enough) and economy (leaner map) but you run hotter and with less lubrication thus less long-term reliability. There's always a compromise with every choice we make. In this case it's reliability and with an engine that must be dropped even to take a look at the turbos, I wouldn't risk it.
@chconserful 3 жыл бұрын
Love this. More please👍
@Chazb5046 3 жыл бұрын
So glad to have found this review. I’d really like to get a Touareg but people keep giving me the horror stories. I let them scare me off a series 2 disco but I think I’m sticking with the Touareg
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Well worth the get, I’m actually selling this one at the moment for 6k
@carhawara3394 4 ай бұрын
I got a v10 tdi with over 250k miles on the clock. And the only problem is the air Suspension, because sometimes i can get into Off road and sometimes it screams error. For the costs, its thirstier than my Step dad and you got the audi rs6 breaksystem which is pretty expensive and also it needs 11 Liter oil per change which you should do pretty often to keep the engine without Problems.
@rassellsobur5342 3 жыл бұрын
Great and detailed vid dude. What advice can you give me for the 3.2 or the 3.5 V6 petrol Touareg 2005 plus models, been looking at getting one and has to be the petrol version due to the "emissions tax" . Any help and insights would be much appreciated
@benjohnson9930 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the market for a touareg, I'm amazed with the mpg figures, I'm probably going to end up with the v6 but if a decent cheap v10 pops up I might just get that.
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah a remap or tuning box is a recommendation I'd make for any performance diesel, it gets great results. I did a trip check the other day after making a longer trip and even with some snails pace traffic due to a crash it still returned 26 mpg average. I am looking to sell it in a few months though, to get an upgrade.
@CraigEdmonds 3 жыл бұрын
I have bought my first Treg in 2020, a 2004 R5 2.5 V5 with 130,000kms on the clock. Its in great shape and got it for a good price. My next one will be a V10 though.
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. I'll be selling mine within the next couple' months to get a new car
@alexmolyneux5535 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I also purchased a 2005 V10 around the same time as you. Mine was probably a bit more neglected than yours and have had my fair share of issues. Luckily I’m a mechanic so can carry out work myself, if your not and are planning to purchase a V10 be prepared for big bills. These cars are getting old and things do wear out. Same as you the air compressor failed but was an easy swap with an after market unit. My water pump failed (research shows this happens around the 120k mile mark) when it fails it will dump coolant into the oil. I’ve also replaced all the gaskets on the oil fill/cooler as they stated to leak (runs out of the V in the block. Like you said other issues have been common to the Touareg. Just a note, the V10 doesn’t run a chain or belt, it uses gears for timing. Also the V10 has two batteries, the starter battery is located in the rear wheel well. I’ve carried out quite a few oil changes now (due to the water pump) really easy to do but does require nearly 12lts of oil and does need to be the correct grade, if not it causes wear to the cams. My really life MPG is probably around 15 round town and mid 20’s on the motorway. I’ve managed to get 32 on a run but was driving like miss daisy.
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, thanks for the extra info, I'll have to keep an eye on that in around 5-10k miles or so. If I still have it then anyway. And someone else also mentioned the rear battery, but I don't see how that can be when hooking up the passenger seat one fixed the issue immediately.
@alexmolyneux5535 3 жыл бұрын
HSG Automotive yes the car won’t start if the front isn’t connected as it powers the ECUs. The water pumps not a bad job as the engine can stay in and you don’t have to remove the front end like VW say you have to
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Alex Molyneux Ah cool beans
@jamest5149 3 жыл бұрын
@@alexmolyneux5535 the front end comes out of the way quite easily, VW Audi of this era just made the front panel complete swing to one side with the hose connected and all the radiators, coolers and condenser in place on the front panel so you don’t have to reclaim the AC gas etc to do a belt or other service item on the front of the engine
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamest5149 There's no belt in that engine apart from a small one on the alternator (which is quite easy to swap and no engine drop needed). The turbos are the dreaded issue with these engines and need an engine drop. However if you take care of them (let them cool before shutting the engine down) they won't cause problems. They are quite reliable..
@user-sf7kl9uh7k Жыл бұрын
My uncle bought a pre registered 2005 V10 Phaeton with 3 miles on the clock. He removed the engine cover, and changed the oil himself between 10k dealer services and did 100,000 trouble free miles. He always idled it down though
@nikodevatio2710 9 ай бұрын
Saw three of these for sale and immediately looked for reviews as I had never heard of a Touareg to have a 5.0 V10 engine. A friend of mine has a 3.0 diesel and said the car's pretty nice to drive. I'd love to try this one out
@HSGAutomotive 9 ай бұрын
There's also a 450 bhp petrol 6.0 W12 version, a non-turbo version of the Bentley Continental GT engine, but those are extremely rare
@nikodevatio2710 9 ай бұрын
Which year would You recommend to get in terms of that V10? I've got options for 2004, 2005 and 2006 all around 3.5K euros or so.
@HSGAutomotive 9 ай бұрын
Generally go as new as you can, but lower km, fewest owners and most service history is more important on these. It needs to have been treated with respect as a performance car, not abused as a general family 4x4
@kurtwollermann2210 2 жыл бұрын
they are an amazing piece of machinery
@richardwalker9679 2 жыл бұрын
Hi guys did anyone find out who did the *remap*? Any info would be great. I’m keen to get mine done. Love this car 👍👍👍 Thanks
@SAVING_ICONIC_MACHINES Жыл бұрын
Do you still have it and how is he getting on, if not did you have any other issues?
@Fentongrenville Жыл бұрын
Thank you for an informative brilliantly delivered vid, your V10 is a stunner, I own the baby brother V6 and love it. I've never regretted moving from my BMW X5 to a Touareg.
@ettienesauls5143 2 ай бұрын
I'm looking to get especially for scrap metal on a trailer about 4 to 5 tons would it be able to pull it effortlessly
@MrMarky2000 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know if this can legally tow a 3.5t car transporter trailer? Great review by the way. Subscribed
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Mark H Legally I have no idea, mechanically yeah it can do it no problem
@MrMarkbrown218 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you are aloud to tow 3.5t with this
@MrMarkbrown218 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you can
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
Only if it's a braked trailer. The Treg's brakes aren't enough for stopping both the car's and that trailer's mass.
@vladislavfeldman6562 3 жыл бұрын
They seem to hit 400-500,000km without major problems.
@adamroberts7689 3 жыл бұрын
Can you provide links to the engine tune/chipping you used? I am mostly interested in the economy aspects not performance.
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
I didn't actually have it done, it was a previous owner, but for reference it's a ''TuneIt Advantage 2'' box
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
I would recommend against it. You get a leaner (hotter) map and you sacrifice reliability with an engine that needs to get dropped for many of the major issues. Wouldn't risk it, there's always a compromise with modifications of that sort.
@danielmwijage3045 3 жыл бұрын
I like this car
@grahamharrison3023 6 ай бұрын
Hi, just purchased a V10 and am looking to improve the economy, just wondered which map you added to the car
@HSGAutomotive 6 ай бұрын
It was called an Advantage Tuneit II iirc
@user-nh5kd8uy1y 5 ай бұрын
Just bought a 2006 Touareg v10 The first day the suspension went out. $3500 US to fix. Why do you put the car in neutral at stop signs?
@neblolthecarnerd 3 жыл бұрын
V10s are amazing and nothing can beat them sound wise. Change my mind.
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Mine is the quietest V10 around, but yeah they do sound good, lol
@ggibson793 3 жыл бұрын
I replaced the factory suitcase muffler with dual 12 inch MagnaFlows. Made the beast sound mean, like a big diesel should.
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
@@ggibson793 Nice. I’ve been trying to shop around to make it sound better. It’ll never match the rumbles of Jags etc that I love the most, but I need more than just the turbo spool 😂😂
@TheExtraleague 3 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive Im adding to Geoffrey, have that potencional is .. oh man.. its like to be best opera singer and letting him sing with respirator :D haha
@tinfoil1463 3 жыл бұрын
I dunno but a Ducati engine sounds amazing.
@X9Z17 3 жыл бұрын
I was considering one of these, but my 300C diesel does 0-100 in 7 secs flat with its stock 3.5L V6, so it's not that bad I suppose. Maybe I'll remap that!
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Any diesel is worth a remap, the benefits are too good to miss out on
@jordanmiller6374 3 жыл бұрын
5:20 I Love getting out of the car as fresh as a daisy👍
@Tazz-7375 3 жыл бұрын
What's your insurance like for the v10?
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Tazz 7375 My first year was £170 a month, this year is £90
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive damn! That's expensive! I pay less than 300 Euros for the whole year!
@dukeboreham2782 Жыл бұрын
Just noticed the thumbnail has changed from the blue Touareg shown in the video to a silver one
@HSGAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Yeah updated a whole bunch of them. The blue one in the thumb wasn’t mine anyway
@vanlifenomad Жыл бұрын
1100 RPM Motorway? I've got a Touareg 3.0tdi 65 mph is 2000 is the gearbox different on the v10
@HSGAutomotive Жыл бұрын
It may be, not sure off the top, but its more about the torque difference than gearbox. With 553 lbft on the V10 its always revving lower because its never working as hard
@lennartgustafsson1252 Жыл бұрын
thanks
@steffon4984 3 жыл бұрын
Do you think it would be a good choise for travelling the world?
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
On paper I'd say so yeah, for its pure ability at least. It's immensely capable. The downside would be that due to its unique engine, major repairs in the middle of nowhere would be crippling. Something like a G-Wagen or Unimog camper is probably more suited to world travelling tbh
@steffon4984 3 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive thanks i allready thought about a g wagon the problem is my Budget
@vinceoferlita Жыл бұрын
Is the 30mpg around town? Who mapped it for you? Thanks
@HSGAutomotive Жыл бұрын
No that would be more of an overall average. I think the tuning box was an Advantage TuneIt II or something like that
@vinceoferlita Жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive really appreciated
@christopherkeller6367 3 жыл бұрын
I would get this only because it has a freakin V10 diesel
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
It's a phenomenal motor. I'm thinking of going back to one again in future, likely the R50
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive The R50 is limited by its body kit for offroading (even mild off roading would damage its body kit). It's a sweet ride though! Too sweet!
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
@@C_R_O_M________ I couldn't care less about off roading, lol
@timleng4404 3 жыл бұрын
FYI: if you own this beast put Mobile 0-40W oil in it. Your camshafts will love you.
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
I use Castrol GTX 30, as used by VW Dealers
@timleng4404 3 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive I believe most of the camshaft failure on this motor are caused by 5-30W oil. I know I have 207k miles(90% towing) on my motor no issue. And will see how yours hold up. Google it:)
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
@@timleng4404 Interesting, I’ll give it a look
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
Always use a 5W40 oil with 505.01 VW specification with the R5 and V10 PD engines! ONLY THAT! VW made a mistake reccomending longlife oil on those and camshafts and their owners paid the price!
@timleng4404 2 жыл бұрын
@@C_R_O_M________ Are you telling me to go back to 5W 40 at 213K miles of heavy towing(5-8000lbs)?
@SAVING_ICONIC_MACHINES Жыл бұрын
11:56 I don’t think it’s got a timing chain.
@HSGAutomotive Жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s gears, need to edit it out from back when I made this
@ignasrackus8543 Жыл бұрын
Even if it's with towhook let's be honest noone with this car when it was new was towing for work. If they had towhook it's either for carawan twice or so a year or for towing horse trailer once in a while to competitions, which is not that bad.
@Tomaso1919 2 жыл бұрын
Have seen plenty around 3k chf but assume that you need an extra 6k to make it "In good condition"
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
V10's have all gone up over the past couple of years, at least here in the UK, so for a good one now (if you can even find one) you're looking more around 10k+ for a good one yeah
@Tomaso1919 2 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive in Switzerland , sellers almost pay you too take it :) Joke apart, you have really nice one and I am quiet jealous about the V10. The torque should be astronomical
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
I sold mine some time ago, but I do miss it sometimes for sure. Unique engine and a fantastic car, with more torque than a Dodge Viper. I bought a new VW a few days ago though in the form of a Golf R32, which is great for all different reasons :P
@Dragline_World 3 жыл бұрын
0-200 km/h please 👍
@jared4670 3 жыл бұрын
VAG for the win. I have read that because of the power that this car has it has some issues with the axles or something that break but you can get one that can handle more torque. Perhaps the map has helped with this?
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Possibly, I don't know for sure
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
Axle problems? No, never heard of that and I'm in Club Touareg forum for more than a decade. . Just the driveshaft support. There's a rubber thast get's ripped with use and needs replacement about every 70K kms. There's an aftermarket fix that deals with it permanently and it's not expensive (in the 300$ range - if I recall correctly).
@MrPeach18 3 жыл бұрын
lovely dub but you look like a black interior and exterior like ive got ,mines only 3.2 petrol though lol
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
Nah mines blue with black
@MAE420PTM 8 ай бұрын
11:54 🤣
@chakapitchou4458 2 жыл бұрын
An update since last video pls
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Sold on my Teg some time ago to get something more spicy (an XKR at the time). Currently running my second VW, a Golf R32, and potentially thinking about getting another Teg in future. Would have to be an R50
@chakapitchou4458 2 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive once you drive teg the chances are, you'll go back, if you do pls make new video, I like your content, I'm also thinking to buy R50, but I'm really sceptical about the mpg, be safe, cheers
@HSGAutomotive 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, and the more cars I review on the channel, the better you realize the Teg platform is. The R50 does have around 2,000 updates over the 'normal' V10, two of the most significant ones being that A. It has a surprising jump in torque. Up from 553 lbft to 630, which is massive. And B. That due to it being newer model, you have to fill the smaller tank in the boot with 'AdBlue' to help emissions, which these older ones didn't have.
@ignasrackus8543 Жыл бұрын
f goverment for taxing all fun cars
@tengu190 3 жыл бұрын
You need a V10 pickup.
@HSGAutomotive 3 жыл бұрын
I do love the Dodge Ram SRT-10 quad cab, might get one eventually...
@tengu190 3 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive I drive a 2004 Ford F-250 2v v10 manual. I’m looking to upgrade to a 2010 f250 3v v10.
@tengu190 3 жыл бұрын
@@HSGAutomotive Another option is a 2003 V10 Magnum pickup.
@FPVForLife 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry, there are no timing chains. The V10 has gears :)
@swvol 3 жыл бұрын
Yep :)
@ivanjovanovic362 3 жыл бұрын
Gears for camshafts? It's like tractor. Are you sure about that?
@FPVForLife 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanjovanovic362 Yes, you can look it up if you want
@niquemarshall 3 жыл бұрын
@@ivanjovanovic362 yes. it has geared accessories as well. no belts or chains on this engine
@C_R_O_M________ 2 жыл бұрын
@@niquemarshall there's only one small belt in the alternator. Everything else is geared as you said. The R5 engine is the same but it's half the V10. Literally.
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