I used to be Technical Manager for JVC(UK) and these were all over eBay when camcorders were much more popular that they are now. I actually wrote the warning that you showed in your video. There were around 30 fake JVC models. eBay were good at removing them and I had a VeRO account where I could report any fakes and they would remove them pretty much instantly. I don't think anyone does that job now, which is one reason why there are so many.
@JaredConnell5 ай бұрын
Whats a vero account?
@asddsa-dy4ne5 ай бұрын
@@JaredConnell The Verified Rights Owner (VeRO) Program allows owners of intellectual property (IP) rights and their authorized representatives to report eBay listings that may infringe on those rights. VeRO embodies our commitment to provide a safe place to buy and sell, which respects property owners’ rights.
@richardbrobeck23845 ай бұрын
I have opened one those fake units up and they were built like a kids toy !
@GaryB0075 ай бұрын
@@richardbrobeck2384We used to get them sent to us for repair by customers who thought they were JVC products. We took a look inside a few of them, and as you say, they were junk. I have an "MXJVC" camera bag around here somewhere.
@daewooparts4 ай бұрын
@@richardbrobeck2384I seen actual Fisher Price cameras that was less like a toy than the fakes
@UltimatePerfection5 ай бұрын
I've once saw in a pawnshop a fake Canon printer under the brand name of Cumon. I wish I was joking.
@vdochev5 ай бұрын
I wish you aren't. That made my evening! 🤣🤣🤣
@excrono5 ай бұрын
It prints spice on blotter paper, obviously.
@idiotinchief5 ай бұрын
I know a genuine Panaphonics when I see one.
@thruthenever5 ай бұрын
Sold! You wrap it up, I'll start bringin' in the pennies!
@mushroomsamba825 ай бұрын
And look, there’s Magnetbox and Sorny!
@abzhuofficial5 ай бұрын
@@mushroomsamba82Ahh, but you can't beat a Carnevale
@AlexMitchell-sj4sb5 ай бұрын
They make Techniques or Teknicks also don't they?
@AlexMitchell-sj4sb5 ай бұрын
😄😅
@Mrshoujo5 ай бұрын
When all the electronics showrooms like Best Buy close & you can't shop & buy in person with real products, getting scammed online is what becomes commonplace.
@beefchicken5 ай бұрын
That’s why we have trusted online marketplaces like Amazon. Now if you’ll excuse me I’ll be returning the brick Amazon just shipped me when I ordered a battery bank.
@Australiaisupsidedown5 ай бұрын
thats why you can't be mentally challenged when shopping online.
@JaredConnell5 ай бұрын
@@Australiaisupsidedownya because smart people never get scammed. Scammers could never use fake pictures or descriptions, after all.
@MrDuncl5 ай бұрын
@@beefchicken A few years ago when ordering on Amazon I looked after placing my order and found that the item on it wasn't what the page showed. To be fair the did cancel my order and refund me promptly.
@My_Old_YT_Account5 ай бұрын
@@beefchickenand the fake capacity & brand sd card they sent me
@qmto5 ай бұрын
For a moment I thought these were fakes made recently. I was like “wait, they’re making counterfeit camcorders of 20+ year old models???”
@ObsoleteVodkaYT5 ай бұрын
Nah these were just so cheaply made that they made boatloads of them and many are still new, sealed, and sold today. Warehouses full of them all around the world and owners wanting to get rid of them ASAP.
@ivok98465 ай бұрын
they can't clone analog camcorders because mechanism is too hard to make. and they're not the smartest folk around.
@TheKnobCalledTone.5 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if they're still being made, but I have no doubt online dollar stores like Temu and Wish probably still have plenty of sellers peddling this garbage.
@Autotrope5 ай бұрын
Skip to 10:35 or so to see they are indeed making new fakes and they could be harder to spot
@rich10514145 ай бұрын
Ah yes, the very well known brand of Canosonic.
@Luenebahn5 ай бұрын
I'd rather go for a Panon.
@LBJshowedmehisJ5 ай бұрын
@@LuenebahnNah, Panaphonics is the best.
@tunix795 ай бұрын
Amateurs… Nikai is the real deal!
@frazzleface7535 ай бұрын
Guys, come on, you know the best is FONY.
@rodrigobelinchon29825 ай бұрын
I prefered Panascanic
@olepigeon5 ай бұрын
8:52 - I always wondered how in a world where the cheapest Android phone has HD video & stabilization, we still get the _worst_ quality UFO and bigfoot videos. Now I know.
@aarocka115 ай бұрын
I remember many years ago, a popular KZfaqr, Dr. Ashens, reviewed a Toshiba Camilio. it was like a few weeks after the upload he added an annotation(remember those) saying that the camera was counterfeit, and he fell for it. This guy is a retro gaming enthusiast so he is very familiar with electronics. It can happen to anybody.
@tunix795 ай бұрын
I am amazed at how deliberately deceptive the Mitsuba is designed. It's literally built to rip unsuspecting people off. A fake lens to draw attention away from the cheap early noughties webcam and a completely useless compartment for 8cm DVDs that looks like a disk drive. This is more of a prank than an actual device.
@pap3rw85 ай бұрын
These are designed to be used in some variation of the "white van speaker scam." A street hawker or flea-market vendor will sell these suspiciously cheap with a story attached ("my boss accidentally double-ordered"). Maybe they'll even show you a real Sony. When you buy it, get home and realize you've been conned the seller is long gone. It's difficult to prove a crime happened since you did recieve a "camera" so the cops don't get involved; in their eyes you just overpaid which isn't illegal.
@BillAnt5 ай бұрын
Canasonic takes the cake with its name, combining Canon and Panasonic. lol
@Paul432105 ай бұрын
The fake sd card topped it off 😂
@WolfmanDude4 ай бұрын
Me too, I am fascinated by this "camera". My brain cant comprehend that it actually exists. It feels like something from a dream, I have to rewatch the video to remind me its real. Can you imagine a whole factory with 100+ workers producing these?
@BillAnt4 ай бұрын
@@WolfmanDude - I wouldn't sleep well as a worker knowing the crap I'm producing. lol
@richardwells16845 ай бұрын
I used to manage a camera shop and felt sorry for people who brought these things in, usually purchased in Tenerife etc. Names like Cannon, Roniflex, Nokin etc, often as you describe with no electronic viewfinder and crappy resolution. Sometimes they wanted the 'optional' battery pack and memory card which cost more than they had paid for the camera. Other times they insisted we honour the international warranty the guy had assured them it came with.
@Kylefassbinderful5 ай бұрын
I don't understand why you don't have upwards of 500k subs by now. For me, your channel is a staple in vintage electronics. You get shout outs from a bunch of KZfaqrs that have millions of subs. I think your content is very underrated. Keep up the good/honest work!
@rossthompson16355 ай бұрын
Totally agree! A brilliant channel, very honest, entertaining and informative.
@helmaschine18855 ай бұрын
You made me check his subscriber count and I'm genuinely shocked it's that low. Wtf don't people see quality??
@audubon54255 ай бұрын
I'm surprised, given the quality of content. This was one of the first channels I subscribed to - had to be 10-15 years ago
@Dagoth666Ur5 ай бұрын
@@audubon5425 Sadly it`s not quality that bring subs, making fool out of your self brings subs, more stupid content you got more subs will attract.
@thefamilydad86355 ай бұрын
Always stick to reputable brands: Awai, Somy, Pioner, Mangabox, Teak, Technix, Kenbook, etc. Even generics, like General Electonic and Reelistic are at least known quantities.
@So15 ай бұрын
Finally someone has finally talked about this, i see these all over amazon too.
@alanluber53835 ай бұрын
Amazon thrives on fake stuff, I was banned from reviews because I stated the truth about 18650 batteries, due to the physical & chemical makeup of them, they can't be over 3500mAh yet Amazon still sells the fakes rated at 9999mAh which are exceptionally dangerous, and I even had a workmate loose the second floor of his house due to fire from these fakes. 🤬
@richardbrobeck23845 ай бұрын
for sure just plain junk !
@jamesslick47905 ай бұрын
There are MORE fake camcorders on Amazon than real ones. I miss local camera shops! B&H might not be the cheapest place on earth but at least I know I'm getting REAL branded gear.
@MVVblog5 ай бұрын
In the early 2000s, in a shopping center near me, they sold these fake SONY cameras. Knowing this, I bought one, emptied it completely of electronics once home, returned it, and got my money back! I used the electronics for one of my many projects.
@awesomeferret5 ай бұрын
People on KZfaq, admitting to actual theft. 😂
@Davis385 ай бұрын
It probably worked better without any components inside! You gave them a better life using them in your projects. Grande Marco!
@mactep15 ай бұрын
@@awesomeferret the store itself was just as bad for trying to scam people.
@HazewinDog5 ай бұрын
@@awesomeferret Statute of limitations baby!
@user-sv5yf8wd3b5 ай бұрын
Grande marco! (Poco legale😅)
@joonglegamer98985 ай бұрын
The 4 telltales of a bad copy: 1 - The clumpiness of the design, usually roundy and cheap looking. 2 - If you look at the copys lens, they are usually covered by a flat piece of glass made to look like a lens behind a pinhole camera. 3 - stickers that exaggerate specs to unreasonable hights. 4 - more stickers that pretend to be features.
@sonic2000gr5 ай бұрын
I remember a friend of mine buying one of these fake "sony" ones (and later on, one of my students also bought one). When I pointed out it was fake he was completely denying it. I also remember funny company names in other counterfeit devices, like portable radios. My favorite one has to be "Panashiba", obviouly a co-op between panasonic and toshiba :D
@amazeyourself_5 ай бұрын
there's literally a Panashiba TV being sold on amazon india
@forzaguy12525 ай бұрын
Ive seen genuine Fony headphones
@freecycle532155 ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video. Because of it I just realized I had a fake canon camera for sale on eBay. It looks exactly like one of your examples of fakes. I am kind of embarrassed that I did not realize it was a fake. Of course I took the listing down and I will give myself a talking to later on.
@Daijyobanai5 ай бұрын
It would help consumers if companies would keep legacy product webpages up instead of taking them down. The info there isn't hard to maintain, it isn't going to change, and some very simple CMS would keep it secure and up to date.
@ItsRyukin5 ай бұрын
I used to watch fake camera reviews. (Including yours) These things have disappointed many people especially the customers that they don’t even know about the brand’s existence and when they bought the thing (Like the one you showed) not even realized that they got ripped off. (Just like me, But with the headphones) Oh, And I’m also a camcorder user and lover too. (Speaking of a camcorder comeback. 😅)
@ApocalypticSoviets5 ай бұрын
Fake product trick names are a running joke between my uncle and I and this video was full of some great ones! Some cameras to use with your Bollex watch!
@Recordology5 ай бұрын
That was a fantastic video. The camera with the fake lens was wild! Coming from a broadcast background, I knew about cheap consumer cameras to avoid - but never counterfeit cameras! I remember when my kids were younger, they would sometimes play with those cheap camcorder like toys with the lenses that were merely pinhole cameras shooting VGA resolution.
@derpraesident985 ай бұрын
Seeing the last clip i would’ve never thought that i would feel nostalgia for a mk5 GTI
@WareNetwork20005 ай бұрын
2:22 I actually saw that same exact listing for that Canon DDV-C330 counterfeit camcorder on eBay exactly three months before you uploaded this video. I politely told the seller that the camcorder's a counterfeit camcorder and I asked them to either remove their listing or change their listing's title stating that it's a counterfeit camcorder. In response, the seller cussed me out, claimed that the camcorder wasn't a counterfeit camcorder, and blocked me.
@Markimark1515 ай бұрын
This is why I don’t like buying cameras on eBay, because they can mislead people into buying a counterfeit with using the same logo like JVC or Sony! At least you were able to report some of those counterfeit camcorders, eBay needs to be more clear with online listings of vintage camcorders!
@Thiesi5 ай бұрын
0:39 - Er, you didn't just _visually_ rickroll us, did you?!
@magnusforsman91505 ай бұрын
😂
@ShinyElGhosteo5 ай бұрын
I never knew there were knockoffs of old cameras until I went looking to buy an old Pentax and saw a bunch of fakes. Blew my mind.
@PascalGienger5 ай бұрын
The "Sony $789.99" is fun. It has an EAN barcode, not UPC. EAN is used in Europe. And the 4 at the beginning means it is for the German market (entre outre). So there would not be $ as currency ;-)
@Connie_TinuityError5 ай бұрын
That Mitsuba is the perfect quote unquote "digital versatile camera" if you ask me
@El-Ritmo5 ай бұрын
The background music at 10:12 was giving me serious _Portal_ clock radio vibes. As to the cameras, it really was remarkable how poor the quality of that knock-off was. So much so that the brand on the side ought to have read "Russet", "Idaho" or "King Edward", rather than "Mitsuba". Thanks for making the video - I hope it saves someone from making a mistake and losing money.
@clydesight5 ай бұрын
I got burned on a fake Minolta video camera. They used the bundle trick to make it look even better and everything you say is true. It was as bad as anything you demonstrated here! There was no way to be sure it was fake -- except the price was so low. There were fake KZfaq videos about it making it look really good. I returned it and got hit with a $35 re-stocking fee! And this was from Amazon! Sheesh, let the buyer beware!
@Kylefassbinderful5 ай бұрын
I remember I used to like to buy counterfeit camcorders because it was fun to see what kind of crap they were. Sometimes you'd get lucky and salvage parts out of them and add it to my parts bin. But yeah, if you're older/non-technical _AND_ you're in another country buying electronics you might be screwed. If you know what you're doing you might be a little better off. Having said all that I found the fake DVD (DVC) hilarious lol
@andrasszabo73865 ай бұрын
I had a friend here in Hungary, who bought a camera from a street salesman, which was made out of wood, with some used camera lens stuck to the front, and a dead camcorder battery stuck to the back, fooling the buyer, saying that it only needs to be charged to work. After purchase, the seller was gone. I also came across a "Li-Ion" battery pack, which had to be opened, and it used AA batteries. But it said on the battery, that it is a 900mAh Li-Ion pack.
@sebastian197455 ай бұрын
I was approached by a guy that wanted to sell me "genuine" Sony camcorder. Brand new, in the box. The price was 50€ but I asked to cut it down because it was fake. After negociations, for 20€, I ended up with a beautiful webcam of good quality (it did VGA video in 2012 when a similar priced webcam only had CIF or QVGA resolution) and a nice device to reccord videos on the go on a standard SD card. I still have it and it kinda work; it have tripod mounting point, a LCD preview on the door and a simple menu. And for the batteries, it had 3xAA but I modified it to a 2000mAh rechargeable Lithium cell. And to not forget, it also have FM radio built in. A beauty.
@ForelliBoy5 ай бұрын
my favorite historical irony is that these "counterfeit" 35mm cameras formed the basis of what we now call lomography
@twocvbloke5 ай бұрын
My dad gave me one of them fake camcorders in 2018, it never worked for him so passed to me to see if I could revive it, I did, battery had puked cos it was a re-used one, but the thing was just as decribed here, fixed focus, lump of metal inside for "added value", recordings were worse than my Nokia 6260 flip from 2005, software was janky, and it just felt crap, I took it to bits permanently, no point trying to polish that turd... :S (I'll reply to this with an insta link to the pic I took of it alongside my Panasonic HC-V110, given youtube sends links to the spam trap, it's a "convincing" fake, but not to someone who used a real camcorder!)
@REXXSEVEN5 ай бұрын
I love it when you include those funny endings at the end of the video.
@JohnJones-oy3md5 ай бұрын
My favorite knockoff product name was a set of alkaline-ish batteries labeled PanaSony.
@crashbandicoot4everr4 ай бұрын
Or the SQMY ones. I see those all the time lol.
@redpheonix10005 ай бұрын
Well, one advantage to the fake camera is that you can't hear the DVD mechanism making sounds _while it's recording, SONY!!!_
@Robert080105 ай бұрын
No... you can't hear it over the background noise of the 8 bit digitization chip.
@JustPeasant5 ай бұрын
Some of the people who sell these products on eBay (or similar sites), aren't even aware that they're selling a knock-off goods. Usually people who are not tech savvy. Of course there are genuine scammers. They usually tend to sell bootleg music CDs and DVDs (CD-R & DVD-R). And then there are people who make a really lousy quality image where you can't figure out is this genuine item or a prop. Or a really lazy that couldn't be bothered to make a photo of their goods, take stock one from the internet and be "it's good enough".
@rodrigobelinchon29825 ай бұрын
It's a Sonya ! I lost it at the memory card ! LOL
@deathstrike5 ай бұрын
It's now apparent that we can no longer trust the very brands many of us grew up to respect and purchase. I told my son not too long ago. It will get to the point where you will have people paying top dollar for so called "real products". Even parts will be very high priced, and individuals will be buying old and broken models to simply make one good working until. It reminds me of the storyline from the Sci Fi show "Serenity". Its said that when the Earth started sending out starships to colonize other worlds, the precious few items or "Earth relics" people took with them are worth huge prices on the so called Black Market. It's a bit of a competition among the wealthy to have the most "Earth relics" and be the talk of their planet. Is that where we are headed? Because of such horribly cheap and low quality products people scour for old but much better quality items? And paying the price of course?
@wrnchhead765 ай бұрын
"I know it's not fake, it was my grandma's!" LMAO
@hyperturbotechnomike5 ай бұрын
I live in Europe and i always saw these cameras and mobile phone shops alongside other fake goods. I have relatives in Lithuania and counterfeit electronics were common there after the fall of the iron courtain. In Vilnius there is this really ugly brutalist shopping centre which looks like a prison (they still haven't torn it down). There was a shop, which only sold fake electronics and clothes. The shop also had a chemical smell so bad, i still remember it. Eastern bloc people had no experience with outside brands and it was less than easy to fool them.
@TechGuyBeau5 ай бұрын
Ah… the mitsuba makes its fates return to the channel
@but5315 ай бұрын
Awesome video man. I like that you speak slow and very clear and because of this, i understood everything you said in your video, i liked the samples of video and audio comparison between fake and real camcorders. By the way i am impressed about the quality of the audio of this old sony camcorder. I just saw one of the best made videos in the whole youtube. For real man, i liked your content a lot , so you deserve a subscribe. I am impressed of how clear you speak and the rest of the video is perfect made. Man you are very, very good at this👍
@vwestlife5 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot! I appreciate it.
@douglasallen94285 ай бұрын
Who doesn’t love the quality of a genuine Magnetbox?
@HazewinDog5 ай бұрын
I also buy my PC power supplies from only the most promising brands, like Blaze, SparklePower or Fire Dancing.
@ZacabebOTG5 ай бұрын
@@HazewinDog Still safer than a genuine Gigabyte.
@racoonracoon21275 ай бұрын
I also own a panasonic which I ve been using it with my husband a lot. They do have a very nice type of feel to the video which I wasnt quite able to replicate with the smartphone. Besides I also enjoy the look and ergonomics of it plus having a dedicated video and picture device! I love having retro stuff like that! I cant wait to be able to afford to get more technologies which are just nice like that. Thank you for making an awesome video!
@raddiksan64555 ай бұрын
Fortunately a lot of old camcorders (especially old ones that take cassette) have a barrel jack for 12v car adapters. you know what else is 12 volt? cheap drill batteries at harbor freight. 12 dollars for a rechargeable lithium drill battery, all you have to do is make an adapter to plug it in either the barrel jack or the original battery terminals.
@rodrigobelinchon29825 ай бұрын
thank you !
@DeathInTheSnow5 ай бұрын
It's fascinating how the market for vintage camcorders has brought about a market for _fake_ camcorders. I love having dedicated devices for things. Phones are super convenient, but they're still jack-of-all-trades. This video is so important because camcorders are still the best way to shoot video!
@bennyc5009495 ай бұрын
It's funny when you see the reflection of the camera man in a 'VLOG' and they are awkwardly holding a DSLR style body with two hands to try and keep it steady when a simple Camcorder, which would even end up being cheaper than whatever mirrorless camera + lens they are using, would be so easy to hold in one hand and get a similar quality footage.
@MyFedora5 ай бұрын
@@bennyc500949 No, it definitely won't be steady footage with one point of contact, but it sure is more comfortable to hold. Any camera with shoulder support will be infinitely more comfortable than DSLRs and camcorders (as shown in this video) combined though. If I already own a good stills camera, then I'd skip the camcorder and go with an ENG/EFP-style video camera.
@MrJ0mmy5 ай бұрын
i have an old digital camcorder says its made by sony bought in 2012 the font and everything is the same the sticker is the same as what you find on sony point and shoots of the time your video made me go back and look at it again and i tried to google the model number i find nothing it records in asf format with M4S2 codec so i think its fake
@kopisusu20005 ай бұрын
Oh, that last part is spot on! Yet as you said, some people are so non-tech-savvy, they won't notice nor care about aspect ratio and audio channels. So, ... maybe there's a market for those sketchy cameras afterall. Too bad they just could not help pretending to be something else.
@idahofur5 ай бұрын
Well if somebody hasn't posted it. Those Traveling sales would go around to different towns sold them to. They also sold refurbished stuff. Plus Cell phones that was a cell phone but would not work in the USA. I can't remember the last time I saw one of those shows in this area.
@itsstudytimemydudes43454 ай бұрын
omg we had a sony at one point I think. I love that theres a community of people using these because not only does the footage looks nice, but the devices themselves look both really cool and fun to use
@richardknieper9735 ай бұрын
Great point! Those of us that enjoy using and collecting them probably don’t expect counterfeit camcorders
@tsalikaki5 ай бұрын
i laughed so hard with this one. Especially your "does this look hd to you?" Take care
@rock-steadi-cam50585 ай бұрын
My neighbor had the infamous DV7000 and rather demanded I but it from him, to prove to his wife that it had been a good investment. After looking it up, it seemed worthless but I offered him $20 just for the novelty. He agreed, but only if I told his wife I gave him $100 for it... whatever! What amazed me about this device is that it actually functioned as a camcorder! Decades earlier when you bought a product like this, you just got a box of rocks!
@LeeBergerMediaProd5 ай бұрын
Great job! I’d seen some of the bogus models on Wish, Alibaba, and other shopping apps and wondered what they were like.
@joshm2645 ай бұрын
when I saw the beginning of the video with the plain white background I was worried you got rid of your iconic table lmfao. There's something about your usual set that just feels right...
@TechBaffle5 ай бұрын
0:58 I had a Hitachi camcorder very similar to that, but shot on 8cm DVD discs. I traded it in and remember getting quite decent money back then. I remember going out the shop thinking they made a mistake or something but it was a good camcorder. The DVD format was a bit annoying, because you had to initialise the DVD's before they could be played back, and the 8cm DVD-RW discs were quite expensive if you don't plan on keeping everything. Still pretty cool going from camcorder to DVD player to watch back.
@JoeJ946115 ай бұрын
If Sony used the clip @ 9:40 of Kevin comparing a Sony’s camcorder’s recording quality to the fake, it would make a great ad for Sony.
@cysjunk5 ай бұрын
11:40 I wasn't expecting a CBBC cameo but alas there it is! Also I had another cheap camcorder that I got from Goodwill that also had metal plates in it to make it feel heavier. The video quality was pretty bad and the audio was out-of-sync. I still have it but it doesn't really work because the battery cover's spring is broken and it won't stay shut.
@fmphotooffice55135 ай бұрын
Another great video. Yes, stretched 4x3 is an abomination- or just plain lazy. Seeing it more often on KZfaq. Grrrr...
@netoe5 ай бұрын
almost 14 years ago, some Argentinian accent guys tried to white-van scam me, first asked me for directions to some random place, then they offered me a sony camcorder, the name Sony was written in cursive, I ran like hell.
@manolokonosko28685 ай бұрын
I love this channel!! Never disappoints!!!!!!!
@WolfmanDude5 ай бұрын
A few years ago I was trying to get a full size VHS camcorder. Every single one was destroyed beyond repair by leaking electrolytic capacitors. No joke, I went thru 6 broken camcorders before I found a repairable one. These more modern camcorders you show in the video always refuse to power up for some reason. If you trying to buy a camcorder in this day and age: Prepare to go thru 10 broken ones before you find a single working one!
@TechBaffle5 ай бұрын
A lot of music released today has heavy inspiration from the late 90's, with many music videos even being purposely shot in 4:3 rather than 16:9. These camcorders give that warm aesthetic that's lost in a lot of modern smartphones, which with heavy HDR and processing means video is perfect, but lacking that charm. Similar to what happened with the 80's trend, the 90's trend is making a lot of portable cassettes, consoles, CRT's, disposable cameras and camcorders more popular.
@briangoldberg44395 ай бұрын
yep. man living in manhattan during the 2000s i saw so many of these things sold in cheapo goods stores all over the city. there were actually some *really* accurate looking fakes being made by the mid 2000s and it could be hard to tell them apart from just appearances. it's always important to buy from a reputable seller!
@tomsimpson33225 ай бұрын
Nice to see my home city (Glasgow) mentioned. Another top video👍🏻😉🏴
@azolaun5 ай бұрын
Thanks for bringing this up. I was looking into buying another one soon. That's so wild that it comes with a fake sd card telling you it doesn't have one when they could have put it on paper but made a fake sd card and why even make a fake place to hold a mini dvd 😂
@cvbabc5 ай бұрын
Wow Kevin, that was great! You're just like John Stossel but without the moustache.
@fungo66315 ай бұрын
The problem with modern kids using these camcorders is that they put zero effort into properly capturing that footage on a PC. I've seen even some quite pro looking KZfaqr who's made the mistake of capturing footage from a miniDV camcorder via RCA composite video cables as well as a probably questionable capture device as well. The result being that our homie VWestlife, with a much more modest production value, gets much better quality footage out of these old camcorders than these higher budget KZfaqrs.
@vwestlife5 ай бұрын
I commented on someone doing that -- capturing a Canon GL2 MiniDV camcorder via composite -- and their response was "I'm not looking for quality".
@fungo66315 ай бұрын
@@vwestlife>I'm not looking for quality Why bother spending the greens on such a camcorder instead of some Hi8 camcorder then? Some people, I swear.
@vwestlife5 ай бұрын
@@fungo6631 Because they like the way it looks and feels. Especially among the skateboarders, it's more of a prop than anything else.
@PendragonNC5 ай бұрын
I own a Sony Handycam CX-405. It's a fairly "outdated" model by today's standards but for a compact 1080p camcorder I quite like it. I have some experience with cheap Amazon camcorders as well and if you spend just a little more on the real thing the difference is incredible.
@ivanztube5 ай бұрын
The last advice was so specific! 😅
@BrokenBackMountains5 ай бұрын
I still have my Panasonic NV -GS17E which I bought in the 90s. I also have batteries, chargers, cassettes ac adapter and computer interface/grabber to upload to my laptop. It works perfectly.
@Kylefassbinderful5 ай бұрын
I know what you mean about loving camcorders. My first was a Sony TRV818, very very basic model. Didn't even have a side screen, but it did have a color viewfinder which was good enough. I loved learning how to make short films with little to no editing tools.
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim5 ай бұрын
that fake... excuse me *Sample* memory card is hilarious 😂
@veganguy745 ай бұрын
Though I was born in the 1970s, I (nor my immediate family) never owned a camcorder. The closest I’ve ever had was a Kodak Zi-8 (digital 1080p video recorder that came out in 2009). Ive used a number of VHS recorders and recorded hundreds of tapes up until the 2010s, but I’ve never had any love for SD video. But I do like record albums and appreciate your videos!
@ryanreedgibson5 ай бұрын
Wow, I am so glad I don't buy cameras based on price. The last camcorder I had, which I gave to my daughter, was the Canon VIXIA HF G50. I did record great 4k/30p but required too much color correction in post to match my Black Magic Cine cam.
@mspysu795 ай бұрын
That "Mitsuba" camcorder had about the same quality as the 1984 Sony BMC-220 Betamovie camcorder with its singe stripped Vidicon (Trinicon) sensor and mono linear sound.
@JohnSmith-xq1pz5 ай бұрын
To quote Star Trek DS9 "It's a fake!" I can think of one good use for these fake camcorders. To fool thefts or for omg I dropped it pranks
@smiths73175 ай бұрын
Show props and in China it's known during interview or filming to have professional looking camera in the background.
@JohnSmith-xq1pz5 ай бұрын
@@smiths7317 didn't think about show props etc, that's a really good idea
@Kumimono5 ай бұрын
That would a funny prop for 2000's period piece. Someone filming with a camera that looks like period accurate thing, but an eagle-eyed viewer notices, hey, that's a pinhole sensor on that Matsusonichu camera....
@TheSanco265 ай бұрын
9:35 When you realize that there was actual music playing in the background when switched to the original Sony.
@LenKusov5 ай бұрын
Another note on that very last part, ADJUST THE GODDANG PICTURE ON YOUR CAPTURE STICK if you're digitizing analog formats like VHS-C or Hi8, cause the default settings on those $20 USB capture dongles are trash and almost every capture software lets you adjust the chroma, luma, gamma, saturation, etc. on them to get a halfway decent picture even outta worn-out EP-mode VHS. Nobody wants to see a super-dark and washed out image and there's only so much improvement Davinci Resolve can do in post when the output is a compressed mpeg2 video. Also, CLEAN YOUR TAPE HEADS IF IT STILL LOOKS LIKE TRASH, cause I guarantee the previous owner never did and with sold-as-blank media a lotta the tapes are degrading and gunking your head drum up.
@ReelFilm20165 ай бұрын
Great video, really informative and interesting. I can spot the fakes a mile off but the everyday consumer might get scammed. Thing is, all the counterfeit models look….like cheap knock offs.
@claycassin84375 ай бұрын
Looks like I got lucky. I ordered a used Sony HI-8 camcorder, and I got a used Sony HI-8 camcorder. Obviously old and well used. It works great. Glad I didn't get scammed. Of course, I assumed I would not be, as I bought it from a US based individual seller who only had one to sell.
@Petzel_KZ9ZAP5 ай бұрын
I never stopped using a traditional camcorder. Glad to know I'm cool again 😎
@OrloCanalo2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video. You literally just saved me from buying a fake JVC camera online.
@Musicradio77Network5 ай бұрын
I had one of those camcorders, and it was an Aiptek camcorder from the mid to late 2000’s and the video quality was horrendous. Too dark and dull. I replaced with a FlipVideo from 2009 and it does the rest. And with the advent of iPhones and iPads, FlipVideo was retired by 2011 or so.
@tvfromvcr83315 ай бұрын
I love my SoKnee camcorder. At 15 frames per second, 140p resolution and in-built single Christmas tree light for bright illumination of your subject, it's top of the range! Not only that, its lens cap is permanently glued on so you don't even have to worry about taking care of its high quality SoKnee lens! If you can't use it, it'll never get damaged. They really like to think of the consumer at SoKnee.
@mynameisschezuan5 ай бұрын
Thanks! And thanks to everyone for reporting fakes and counterfeits to eBay!
@fuosdi642 ай бұрын
I remember about 13-15 years ago you used to warn us about these crap fake camcorders. Surprised that they're still being made!
@Pasi1235 ай бұрын
5:54 I have that one branded as DVxJVC. I got it for less than 1€ with a dead battery from a thrift store back in 2012. It's honestly not that bad for being a cheap china camera from 2005, much better than what most phone cameras were back then. But it only has fixed focus and digital zoom so it's definitely not comparable to a real camcorder.
@Webber4045 ай бұрын
My grandad got sold something similar to this in a supermarket car park in the 2000s. None of us could ever get it working, and I was the techy one
@yakacm5 ай бұрын
We've got a Sony camcorder from the early 2000's and as you say the pictures nothing to get excited about, but the sound is excellent. I have loads of footage taken at music festivals and the sound is great, quite often I'd get bored of filming and want to watch the acts so I'd point the camera at the sky and just record the music.
@zidane2k15 ай бұрын
My favorite of the fake brands you showed was Cansonic (Canon + Panasonic?). I ended up pronouncing it Canasonic at first!
@NickShvelidze5 ай бұрын
I've once bought one of those fake MiniDV cameras on a flea market for really cheap, when I realized it was fake I took it apart to see what was going on inside, found a big block of metal. Sadly it stopped working shortly after.
@moth.monster5 ай бұрын
People will fake just about anything it seems if they can make a profit...
@gblargg5 ай бұрын
4:07 Now that's hilarious, with the real lens a tiny thing below.
@20windfisch115 ай бұрын
The fake “SLR” cameras had some questionable popularity in Germany in the early 2000s. They could usually be won at lottery booths at funfairs or were sold by street traders or the Vietnamese who set up a lot of market booths and later small shops after the collapse of the GDR, usually titled “Textilien und Geschenkartikel” (Roughly: Clothes and presents). There you could buy them, at least the prices were not meant to rip you off, albeit still high for the quality. I bought a couple of halfway decently priced Famiclones from them. The most popular “brands” of these were Canomatic and Nokina, sometimes also Nippon. Never saw the digital versions here though but these analog ones were also pretty often sold on eBay. They were often passed off as basement or attic finds, like in one of your examples.
@IgorL-rv1mn5 ай бұрын
I saw a FedEx Camara but it was repaired with parts from a UPS Camara. The seller called it the Fedup camara
@maurexretrovision5 ай бұрын
I agree. I also like camcorders. Although DSLRs and smartphones have reached incredible levels of quality with their sensors, they still have a long way to go to improve, especially when it comes to focusing. Techmoan and LGR use DSLRs to record videos and they do great, but in order to achieve good results, you have to become very perfect in manual handling of the camera, which if you intend to use your DSLR to record automatically, the results can be not very convincing. In that aspect, you can use (home) camcorders without having too much knowledge of video, and obtain very good images. Obviously, if you touch the manual settings you get the most out of it. But from now on, camcorders in their automatic modes behave very well (generally).