VW Engine - CB Performance Panchito Head Swap, Compression ratio & More! How To

VW Engine - CB Performance Panchito Head Swap, Compression ratio & More! How To - DIY

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Жыл бұрын

Today's video, we're diving into a friends 1641cc Volkswagen Split Window Panel Bus engine.
He's been having some issues with the valves being too tight and thinks the heads are the problem.
He purchased some CB Performance Panchito heads. We'll go over them and show just how nice they are and compare them to stock VW heads. We'll determine the existing compression ratio and new compression ratio with the new heads by measuring the deck height on the engine and the CC's on the heads.
We also have to change out the valve adjusters and adjust the valves.
Hopefully these step by step procedures will help you along on your VW project. There's nothing as satisfying as doing it yourself.
Of curse we used Super Clean to clean up the engine before we started work.
Thank you for watching.
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@ahernandez9860 3 ай бұрын

Great video! Vw community at its finest.

@VWJawbreaker 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. If we can’t help each other then the community is in trouble!

@robertingram4562 4 ай бұрын

Just want say thank you for taking the time to show the whole process. I like to do my own work ,that's why I have a bug . You rock .😊

@VWJawbreaker 4 ай бұрын

I’m glad you found the video helpful. There’s usually more satisfaction when you can do your own work and we all have different strengths… but if we can all work together we can keep these cars on the road!

@josephgonzalez561 Күн бұрын

Thank you I want to change mine now, I might have questions

@henryanderson7606 24 күн бұрын

Very thorough vid Gary....thanx

@VWJawbreaker 24 күн бұрын

Glad you found it helpful!

@Eric_casper6477 2 ай бұрын

Great video!! Gotta get myself prepared for next weekend!! lol

@VWJawbreaker 2 ай бұрын

Get after it dude!

@paulnash8988 5 күн бұрын

Excellent video!!

@VWJawbreaker 5 күн бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 🤙

@GonewithRob Жыл бұрын

Great Job Gary! was good to meet you at No Dough 2023!

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir and thanks for saying hi at the show.

@boronsniify Жыл бұрын

Very helpful - as usual, you explain and demistify the whole process clearly. I really treasure your content - my favorite still has to be you taking your son out in the freshly built 2054 a few years ago - cooldadtastic! Power to you!

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that. Everyone has their way of doing things but there’s some things that just have to be done to make things work correctly. Thank you for your support!

@hughrobinson9978 Жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker Been watching you for years now - you have inspired a lot of people to carry out maintenance and upgrades to their VeeDubs by breaking processes down into understandable "bite sized" pieces. I also admire you showing when things don't go 100% right and how you problem solve those issues. Thanks for doing what you do!

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

@@hughrobinson9978 I truly appreciate that. I’ve always aimed to be as real as possible… through the good and bad because we all learn different and from mistakes.

@prkid424 Жыл бұрын

How did you know I was building my long block and needed this info. Thanks for the video.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Perfect timing I guess!

@stevemendoza6744 Жыл бұрын

Like always another great video !

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that!

@69bajaoutdoors Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Clean, precise and efficient!

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir!

@douglasbarnhart3324 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video Gary.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

You are very welcome.

@jeffcoleman5160 Жыл бұрын

Great video Gary

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that 🤙

@VWRICH23 Жыл бұрын

Awesome vid. I was waiting for the start up lol

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

He’s already driven it several hundred miles and loves it.

@deanrobinson3717 Жыл бұрын

Superb instruction, yet again Gary, nice one for sharing you vast knowledge.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

I don’t know it all but enough to ensure they stay on the road. Hopefully it’ll help someone out.

@markbishop2138 Жыл бұрын

Awesome detail Gary: a great reference no matter how many times you do it yourself. In my saved list.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate that. Hopefully it’ll help someone on their project 🤙

@chrisbegger8684 10 ай бұрын

Love it Gary, That is the best demonstration of checking deck height and C/R I have seen, thank you

@VWJawbreaker 10 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you and thanks for being here.

@c-los4630 7 ай бұрын

Amazing video. Thank you.

@VWJawbreaker 7 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it 🤙

@ChipsAndSparksGarage Жыл бұрын

Good video Gary. Those are some sweet looking heads!👍

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir. He’s been very happy with the improved performance!

@backyardkombi5466 Жыл бұрын

Nice video Gary!

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir.

@davidryan573 Жыл бұрын

Some great information Gary, congratulations on 10k🎉

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you, hope you found the info helpful. We’re not quite to 10k yet but I appreciate it.

@vnovoi 9 ай бұрын

Thank you so much Gary!!! You do awesome video brother! God bless!!!!

@VWJawbreaker 9 ай бұрын

Thank you, hope the video was able to help you out.

@THEREEFREPORT Жыл бұрын

Great video, sir I actually learned something

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Awesome and thanks 🤙

@adamgray2720 Жыл бұрын

Agree with you on the nyloc nuts. You know I learned the hard way a while back. Thanks for the video.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

I think we’ve all learned that at some point if they’ve been doing this long enough 😂

@adamgray2720 Жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker yep.

@Ted65R Жыл бұрын

Great video. I’m a complete VW nubie so these help..

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

We all start somewhere. There’s plenty of us on KZfaq that are more than willing to answer questions.

@patar4568 Жыл бұрын

Another good video Gary. Might have to get those heads one day.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I appreciate that. I’ve heard of people running those heads on larger, mild engines and were very happy.

@jimlester5003 Жыл бұрын

Damn Gary, you make it look easy. Lol. Great job my friend.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir, I appreciate that.

@STREETSTANG07 Жыл бұрын

Thanks again Gary!

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@DailyPatinaBeetle Жыл бұрын

Looks great Gary. I'll give Super Clean a try on my engine cleaning too👍🏽

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thanks man. Super clean is definitely my favorite degreaser, works better than anything else I’ve ever used.

@MikeMoose67 11 ай бұрын

Very nice parts.. good video…

@VWJawbreaker 11 ай бұрын

Thank you, I appreciate it.

@estebangarcia3365 Жыл бұрын

Good job Gary. You make it look too easy

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

It’s just working through the process. Hope the video helps someone out at some point on their project.

@vayabroder729 Жыл бұрын

Great job, Gary! Textbook; the way it’s supposed to be done.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy. Wish I could be one of those guys that just slap it all together and let it be…. However I can’t.

@cjjones1556 Жыл бұрын

Just got some 90.5 panchitos toin install with some 88 thick walls on my otherwise stocker. The heads look great. Will see how it works out. 1.25 rockers..

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

I was impressed with the heads, although my 2054 has a their ultra wedge port heads and they are great as well. He did say, since only the heads were changed on this engine combo, it runs better with more power and actually runs a little cooler than before.

@bash5552 10 ай бұрын

new sub, great vid!!

@VWJawbreaker 10 ай бұрын

Awesome, thank you for being here!

@cringram1003 7 ай бұрын

Stock rocking lol😊

@rickhiggins6521 10 ай бұрын

Nice video. Love your VW lawn critters. You're right about the VW crowd. We are all in this together now.

@VWJawbreaker 10 ай бұрын

Absolutely. Without each other supporting one another, things would be much different.

@fejus303 9 ай бұрын

Awesome!!

@VWJawbreaker 9 ай бұрын

Hope you found some useful information

@bedlamite42 Жыл бұрын

Panchitos are good heads, for a mostly stock motor you should be fine as delivered, but for bigger engines they need the bowls blended, a few minutes with a die grinder to knock the corners off makes a big difference. The next set you get, take the valves out and look.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Good to know, thanks.

@inline4cyl20 11 ай бұрын

I have a new set of panchitos that i flowbench tested before and after mine need a little bit of bowl blending cleanup on the intakes the exaust needed more blending and work on the short turn radius after the bowl blending and work on exhaust they flow what cb advertised on their website. I feel if you didn’t do the work on the exhaust and bowl blending, they’re not gonna produce the horsepower that the motors that CB Dynos on their website, possibly the older Panchito castings may have had better exhaust but the new ones are definitely gonna need a little bit of cleanup if you want to get the most out of them. Otherwise its an awesome head and cools great

@VWJawbreaker 11 ай бұрын

Good info, thanks!

@inline4cyl20 11 ай бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker i built a 2110 with the panchitos with dual 44idf a 2241 cb camshaft and sidewinder exhaust it revs out really well and has great throttle response the panchitos have great port velocity. Idles nice at 800 pulls hard to 6k

@eduardorodriguez3262 Жыл бұрын

Very informative and easy to follow Wish you were up the street and around the corner from me that would Be Good 👍🇩🇪

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thanks buddy! Yeah, I get that a lot but most importantly would be cool to hang out 🤙

@eduardorodriguez3262 Жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker for Sure and cruise our vdubs👍

@HubertusSchaper Жыл бұрын

Hi Gary, Nice work seems to be you know your business👍🏻, well performed,👏🏻 and Interesting to watch the procedure😊🇺🇸.Greetings.Hubertus🙏🏻🇳🇴🇳🇱☮🍀

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you Hubertus. I don’t know it all but I do know enough to make sure things are right. Have a wonderful day my friend.

@HubertusSchaper Жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker Ditto my friend.

@robertbumgardner5549 Жыл бұрын

Nice

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Very nice heads.

@Demop_VW_garage Жыл бұрын

How good are those heads😍 I have them on the 2276 motor I just got😉

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard good things and so far he’s reporting more power and the engine is running cooler than before in the same split window panel bus. I’m definitely impressed especially for the price especially vs Empi heads from the same price point.

@daveglick5152 Жыл бұрын

some of those springs on the old heads look like they be upside down. cheers

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

They very well could be, I didn’t look that close at that.

@TimsWorkshopTJY Жыл бұрын

Cool👍

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir.

@oldvolksbus Жыл бұрын

saved!

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

🤙

@vintage76vipergreenBeetle Жыл бұрын

👍

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir.

@jasonburkhart1632 Жыл бұрын

I got a set of these heads to build my 2275. Gotta finish the car first though

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

I’ve heard lots of good things with these heads, glad I was able to put my heads on a set.

@Jayvans_Super Жыл бұрын

Great video ad always. If you ever need content, let me know, I can drop my motor off lol. But seriously, what would you recommend for removing that carbon buildup? I have some previous heads I want to clean up with out messing up

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate it. The best thing I’ve seen for removing old baked on oil and carbon buildup is a bead blaster. Usually glass beads in a sand blast cabinet.

@pierreduplessis1507 Жыл бұрын

The Autolinea case and cb perfonce heads in south africa you are looking at nearly R42 000 in south african currency. Crank cam etc too complete the motor is another R38 000 minus carbs and new tinware

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Holy crap, that’s expensive!

@pierreduplessis1507 Жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker its the import costs taxes etc that flare the prices up. Majority of aircooled cars has a modern motor swop. Building a std too wild aircooled motor depends on how much money you want too spend

@vintagespeedvw7864 Жыл бұрын

Those are good heads that flow real nice. I'm guessing in time that motor will be back for an upgraded crank so it can spin some rpms!

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

He mentioned that there is a noticeable power increase over stock heads, nothing else changed but the heads. He’s happy with it, it’s in a split window panel bus. There’s a stroker engine idea floating around for a different VW he owns.

@vintagespeedvw7864 Жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker that's how the madness starts! Lol. Little bit here and a crank there....

@user-tc9ob8wz3e Ай бұрын

Hi,great video. New to this so it helped alot. I assume that motor has the stock 1600 pistons and jugs? Thanks!

@VWJawbreaker Ай бұрын

Glad you found the video helpful! Pretty sure this has 87mm pistons making it a 1641cc.

@masbeetleboy9169 Жыл бұрын

Good vid as usual. I'm not sure that a 1641 would make such a good bus motor, though.

@1974pieter Жыл бұрын

Cylinder walls too thin...over time they quickly warp...especially in a bus...

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

All depends on how it’s setup. This engine runs nice and cool, you can put your hand in the engine after a 150 mile trip.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Depends on how the engine is setup.

@vayabroder729 Жыл бұрын

88 machine-ins would be optimal.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

@@vayabroder729 those would be a great option.

@Thomas-fo9zu Жыл бұрын

Love the engine videos! Does the heavier valve springs cause the seats and adjusters damage?

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Not these HD springs. When you go to dual valve springs it’s harder on everything.

@rbrtgrdn Жыл бұрын

It'll be interesting to see how those heads perform on a small engine with a small cam. I'm curious.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

He put it in a split window panel bus and has driven it all over without issue. Dual Kads carbs. Has more power and runs nice and cool.

@WolfHausMotorwerks Жыл бұрын

👍👍

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

🙏

@vdubluv222 Жыл бұрын

awesome video! aren't you supposed to set the geometry on the rocker arms? Or is that really only necessary when building high horsepower engines?

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

It’s been a while since I recorded this but I went through the geometry and verified it. Camera died when I made the corrections but it was super close.

@vdubluv222 Жыл бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker awesome! Love your channel, it was an honest question. I'm getting ready to build my first motor. Done everything without cracking a case open enough, figure it's time.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

@@vdubluv222 you got this man, just take your time and verify everything is correct.

@hardware5777 Жыл бұрын

Question(s) which torque wrench are you using, and Do you recommend a 3/8 or a 1/2 drive for most engine work? I'm rounding out my gear and need to buy a good ( but not SnapOn $$$) torque wrench. Loving your content.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

I’m using a 3/8 torque wrench from harbor freight, it’s their mid level one that seems to be decently accurate. For VW engine stuff, most 1/2” torque wrenches start at 20-25 lbs which is too much. Whichever one you get, make sure it can start around 10 lbs.

@neilmccormick9871 Жыл бұрын

I have a machinist block if ever you need to true the flat on the jug.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Good to know, thank you sir!

@DansAm76 7 ай бұрын

So what carb/carbs is he running with that setup? ICT's would be my guess. Id assume a single stock solex would not be enough. Hows the setupnworking for him? Thinking of throwing some panchitos on the stock thing motor as well as punching to a 1641 and maybe some ICTs. Though I do have a progressive weber setup Ive been sitting on though Ive heard nothing but hate about them. Whats your take on em?

@VWJawbreaker 7 ай бұрын

He was running dual 34’s but ended up having an issue with one of them and went to a 34/3 I believe. It’s a great running combo, good power and runs cool even in his split window bus. I’m not a fan of the progressive carbs, if you want a 2bbl, the 38 egas is great.

@trevorallan1340 5 күн бұрын

I didn't catch it if you said but what did you set the valves at? Did you check the rocker arm geometry after you changed to the 044 the heads?

@VWJawbreaker 5 күн бұрын

Valve lash is dependent on what push rods you are using. These stock aluminum push rods were set to .006” I did verify rocker geometry off camera and all checked out just fine.

@Paulman50 Жыл бұрын

I like the low compression, then it can run on cheap pump gas and be reliable for many years.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

Absolutely. He put it in a split window panel bud and hasn’t had a single issue with it… 100 mile stretch a few weeks ago and it was nice and cool.

@harryloibl5183 2 ай бұрын

Did you say the pancheto heads are good value thanks

@VWJawbreaker 2 ай бұрын

I think they are especially compared to an Empi head.

@plymouths1 Жыл бұрын

Can you use standard vw rockers with those stainless valves Gary? I read that the tip of the stem will mushroom over in time, I have done the same thing and after reading this am concerned it might happen.

@VWJawbreaker Жыл бұрын

He needed it back together for his bus. Since then we added lash caps so the tips of the valves don’t get ruined.

@vayabroder729 Жыл бұрын

Swivel feet adjusters would be optimal.

@plymouths1 Жыл бұрын

So all I need to do is buy lash caps, do I need to buy new push rods and cut them to size as well?

@triariicat8448 9 ай бұрын

what happens if you have a chamber that's 1 cc off? will it hurt anything?

@VWJawbreaker 9 ай бұрын

Nope, 1cc difference will not hurt anything.

@JA-sp3mi 6 ай бұрын

What is the whole process of checking the deck height

@VWJawbreaker 6 ай бұрын

What exactly are you asking.

@JA-sp3mi 6 ай бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker so you add what the shims measure and the measurements between the piston and enter it in the calculator

@Xfactorr6 9 ай бұрын

So im trying to budget build a 1641. Got a kit with heads and pistons already. The car i bought came with a rebuilt 1600. Since my exhaust headstuds are broken thought this would be best to change them out. Instead of cam would 1.25 ratio rockers do the same? What compression ratio would you recommend?

@VWJawbreaker 9 ай бұрын

Ratio rockers wouldn’t be the same as changing out the cam but it will play nice with a stock cam and provide more valve lift. I’d keep the compression around stock and not raise it up since the stock cam wouldn’t like high compression and would cause the engine to run hot.

@Xfactorr6 9 ай бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker 7.5:1 would be stock?

@VWJawbreaker 9 ай бұрын

@@Xfactorr6 there about, wouldn’t go much over that. I’d keep it 7.2-7.5

@Xfactorr6 9 ай бұрын

@@VWJawbreaker thank you, appreciate your time

@VWJawbreaker 9 ай бұрын

@@Xfactorr6 anytime