Is he coaching other teams into ill disapline? How did he get that job?

Marika*

Ideal team would 1. Slipper 2. Who knows atm 3. Tupou 4. Rodda 5. Arnold 6. Wilson 7. Hooper 8. Valetini 9. White 10. Cooper 11. Koroibete 12. Kerevi 13. Ikitau 14. Kellaway 15. O’Connor 16. 17. Bell 18. Alalaatoa 19. Skelton 20. Samu/Leota 21. McDermott 22. Paisami 23. Hodge

They did lose to a Wales team missing 20 frontline players - 5 Lions missing from the pack. Australia are poor.

@@jameslindemann3139 leotas play is ahead of Wilson at 6 so it's Leota at 6 n Wilson misses the whole squad

@@davidfoster3337 with the worst ref refereeing the game the refs n TMO in northern hemisphere are soft asf with Valentis Head on Head which shouldn't of been a red 🤦 plus clearly gave Wales a free try with the knock-on n Beale does it he gets a yellow everyone knows wallabies won this game n Wales had the ref 🤣

What in particular did the referee do that was clearly a mistake?

@@James-rc6qq the Aussie yellow was farcical.

@@douglasstewart3889 He was looking directly at the ball and his hand was so far out wide. In a cinical area. Clear yellow. Cynical

Its brilliant reading the anti Welsh comments especially from the English. So pathetic I love it. Cant wait for the 6N

@@williamtraep2984 Calling out crap refereeing when it’s obvious isn’t “anti welsh” get a grip.

it was lucky thad they didnt get 3 red cards, that collar grab was intentional foul play to stop a 2 on 1 against the fullback, and the deliberate knock on should have at least been a penalty try. dont blame the ref for the aussies playing dirty.

@@caijones156 yes there might've been 3 red cards to aus according to you but there were other cases where wales should've at least been penalised. I won't go on but im not saying Australia didn't deserve it, they probably did but the ref also missed other incidents which should've led to a penalty against wales but weren't called out. Thats my opinion though if you don't agree i won't complain i just want to share all i know SO FAR not what the actual facts could be

​@@caijones156 Yeah, how about that swinging arm, while off his feet, to a players head while he was on the ground and not close to the ball 9:00. Should have been a red as well. Oh wait, it was a Wales offender, so only a yellow.

@@pla6454 wales get reds as well, and I don't think either that one or the aussie red should have been red. But since the ref ruled that aussie one a red then the Wales one should be too. I'm just saying that calling the ref one sided is stupid because the aussie did nothing but foul thought that game. Hell the collar grab could have been a penalty try because it was 2 on 1 with no other defenders in site.

You have hit the nail on the head my friend.

Great comment Oliver, as an Aussie I can take the loss, even with a bad ref. I just wanted to see KB show his magic, as he is the piece of the puzzle we are missing

australia got a yellow then wales got a try ?

The Australian jumped into the Welsh man before it so it didnt happen.

penalty to wales before hand

Because he slapped it and it went backwards. It's not a knock on. Beale knocked on deliberately.

@@gwh3013 i thought Beala wasn't looking at the ball at all, just making a tackle

There is a massive difference to adapting to the Ref and a Ref being absolutely and totally biased towards 1 team. I am not excusing any or all ill discipline by Australia but you have to admit the frustration must have been horrendous considering Wale's got to do whatever they wanted without being penalised. Wales should have had at least 3 yellows and 2 red's if you work off the Ref's mentality for the yellow and red for Australia. I get things can be missed but he didn't miss most of these card offenses, he just choose not to punish Wales in the same way he punished Australia

So true wales r always so lucky their team is so average gonna come 5th in this six nations I'm from England so put in them bellow scotland was hard but scotland been good last couple years.

@@euan4793 bet u were angry when they beat u in the six nations

@@euan4793 see you in Twickers you pompous bum hole

Pipe down lads, try not to be sick on any children please...

Why what was wrong with the ref?

@@jamesmckay-mount8689 well have a look at the ‘knock back’. The ball hit the ground and went forward… not by much but forward. But the thing is there, just look at how the ball hit the ground, it can’t go backwards or vertical when it hits at that angle.

@@saberint it went backwards. No further conversation required thanks

@@jamesmckay-mount8689 lol, ok, just ignore physics… it’s just that pesky thing that experts all agree on after all😂😂

@@jamesmckay-mount8689 you might want to view this… some of it is a bit nitpicking but it does cover why the reffing was bad kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Zqp3YNuA0Nquops.html

It’s not a high tackle

@@thomaspryde5523 i don't think you are allowed to grab by the jersey tho

@@thehappypeople7495 You can grab players by their jersey, shorts even their socks if you can. As long as it does not result in your opponent's neck and face being exposed to harm.

A blatant red card though.

Try was legit though. Ball went backwards. Players and spectators need to learn the rules.

@@Edgel-in6bs Do explain.

@@cezzajamboree How could it possibly go backwards when it was slapped directly towards the ground. You learn the rules.

@@cezzajamboree Grow some eyes

Yes, you muppet.

not for about two years unless you count italy or georgia

Not for some time and the ref was definitely wearing red ☹️

@@vinycrimbo8692 look at you sorry knob😂😂

That's what the referee is for, the extra help they need!

They just won a game with the last pla of the game. How weird to celebrate...

Why?

Wales 40 England 24. This years 6 nations. Explain that to your friend.

@@fazertace6837 you mean the game where they scored two illegal tries that were admitted after the game to not be tries?

@@fazertace6837 well my friend just told me that wales played some of the WAL - AUS for at east 10 mins while the aussies where down to 13 people and yet at the end they won by one point. dayum i wish i understood something in rugby :c

@@teocarre4026 no they weren't don't make things up

@@jamesmckay-mount8689 if you watch the highlights rees's try was a clear knock on and then there was that weird moment where the ref called time on while englands whole squad is under the posts cause he asked farrell to talk to them.

Cry

It's not our fault the opposing team cant keep their discipline

If players hadn’t committed blatant red and yellow card offences they would stay on the field simple as that

should have been another red that grab from behind and pulled the welsh player to the floor fron behind was so blatant he diden,t even get a yellow for it was so lucky to get away with all that cheating

Quite legitimate actually.

So, after the deliberate knock on at @5:11 , Australia re-gather the ball. You can see the referee put his arm out to signal they now have penalty advantage for that deliberate knock on. When Australia then lose the ball, the referee initially blows for a penalty to Australia, and would possibly have given a yellow card. However, it seems the TMO or someone then draws the referee's attention to the Australian guy jumping really early for the high ball, and effectively taking out the Welsh player off the ball a few seconds before the deliberate knock on, and we all get to see a replay of that. We imagine that play stops at the first offence, so the referee doesn't punish anything that happens afterwards (unless there's something really serious like a red-card offence). Even if they hadn't had this earlier incident, the deliberate knock on might not have been a yellow card, because whereas the other one clearly prevented a pretty nailed on try, in this case there are a few Welsh defenders out wide, and there's a decent chance they will stop the move anyway.

@@willmc4403 Thanks for the detailed, explanation. So, many things for the rugby ref to think about, at the same time!

Thats what I was saying lol its allowed isnt it

Grabbing a shirt collar is above the shoulders, so it's a high tackle. Always has been.

I used to play against a kid who was twice the height of rest of us and he’d swing us round by our shirt a full 360 and just hammer throw us 🤣 pretty sure that’s not allowed. But I thought scrag tackles like that were.

you can't really just drag a person by the jersey, its not allowed

A lot of the newer "rules" were brought in to help NH teams, TF you talking about 😂 The Northern Hemisphere got sick of NZ, AUS and SA dominating for all these years (Hence majority of the WC Winners are from the south).. And you still have the nerve to whinge too the ref every game 🤦🏽‍♂️ Notice how NZ, SA and AUS don't cry to the ref about calls, only NH teams.. I respect Wales tho

Pulling a jersey is legal. Pulling a jersey collar is, by definition, a high tackle and illegal.

@@obriaind thanks for the clarification

Hahaha.. ref won the match for wales 😆😆😆

@@001dejawu i agree from my viewpoint but i don't want to be negative about things, it will only make things worse

Basically Nick Tompkins (the welsh player) tried to either catch the ball to intercept it, or knock it down to stop their pass. If he had knocked it forward it would have been a penalty to Australia. But since it went backwards/down the referee said he could play on. I think everyone stopped because they thought he had knocked it forward.

@@tbownds9948 Thats why you play to the whistle. Don't assume it was a knock on or things like that will happen. Tough lesson but the referee got it right

@@James-rc6qq Yes. Every player on the pitch probably should have played on (Welsh and Australian) until the referee says otherwise

@@tbownds9948 ah, thanks very much, I was wondering why he was saying back 👍🏻

@@tbownds9948 Also, I'm english so I'd like to think if anything I'd say Im probably harsh on the welsh. But so clearly went back lol

NZ are just the best as simple as that

@@Trajan2401 obviously yeah, 40-25

I think you’re over-reacting to this. In any game with a referee or umpire there is every chance that outcomes are going to depend on decisions that can go either way. Games have been win or lost on refereeing decisions for as long as I can remember in rugby and other sports. Think of penalty decisions, or offside, in football. It always hurts more when it affects your team, but if you really feel that refereeing decisions are affecting the game, then you should focus on the laws, not the referees. They have as much technical help as you can possibly get to help with their decisions and they mostly do a pretty reasonable job. I think the laws on player safety in rugby are relatively easy to adjudicate. The most contentious laws, in my mind, are around the breakdown and whether an attacker is preventing release or the defender is holding on.

The ball went backwards out of Tompkins hands. Impossible to be carded for intentional knock on, if the ball doesn’t go forward. It’s not inconsistency when your talking about 2 different outcomes. I get you’re still salty about o’mahony’s (correctly handed out) red in the six nations, but I think it’s time to get over it by now don’t ya think?

@@AA-vb2pq I wasn't talking about that incident and I'm not salty about O Mahony's card as he deserved it. Majority of carded offenses, I have no issue with but to say there was no inconsistency in the reffing of the Wales V Australia game is just ridiculous. It was inconsistent for both sides. How a Wales player doesn't get a Red for a clear swinging hand to the head on a player that wasn't interrupting play is mind boggling. By sending off/Red carding the Australian for his head on head challenge was right so the Ref had set the Marker by not allowing any hits to the head which is absolutely right and then allowing Wales to not be penalised the same for a more deliberate hit to the head is clearly inconsistent. How can you not see that. The decision had been made to penalise any head contact as player welfare is paramount as it should be. I will never complain about player's getting card's but I will complain about inconsistent reffing

@@ocodeskamcdbsm I personally think Gareth Thomas should’ve seen red, but to act like you don’t understand why Adamson viewed a high speed head-on-head collision 6 and a half feet off the ground differently from a low speed swinging arm to the top of the head a few inches off the floor then I can’t help you. You can disagree with the call, I know I do, but to act like it’s a huge indictment on the ref for showing a Welsh bias and using it to claim that “it’s getting beyond ridiculous at how differently Ref’s treat Wale’s compared to there opponents” is stupid. It’s not Wales’ fault that Fagerson, O’mahony, Sau and now Valetini have each seen red for contact with the head… Regardless you originally started by complaining with as much vigour about Tompkins’ try/Beale’s card which had nothing to do with player safety so forgive me for not buying your claim that you are only concerned with dangerous play or that you “will ever complain about player’s getting card’s but [you] will complain about inconsistent reffing”.

@@AA-vb2pq never once mentioned Tomkins try, did I. It wasn't the only knock on in that game by Wales. Since when was the swinging arm slow? He went for a player who was no where near the ball and hut his head and no matter how slow you feel it was it was a swinging arm to the head which is always punished with a Red unless there was mitigating factor's to drop it down from a Red to yellow do no way could you mitigate that down. I am not blaming Wales got any other team's poor discipline and horrendous decision making, that's on the team's but to say there wasn't inconsistency is ridiculous. A ref set's that bar by penalising a team for there poor discipline but to not penalise both team's in the same way for the same poor discipline is showing inconsistency. I thought exactly the same in the French V All Blacks game, where there was clear inconsistency by Barnes on certain things, like calling the Ball out of the ruck and flat passes. There is a great video on here by a Welsh guy who went through every inconsistent decision during the Welsh V Australia game. It's was inconsistent for both team's but he also focused on the card's that were and that should have been. I'm also waiting for Nigel Owens view on it which should be either this week or next. Can't remember when the interview is. I have seen his last few and he is very fair. Calls out bad decisions and/or explains why the ref made a certain decision

@@ocodeskamcdbsm If you weren’t referring to the Tompkins knock on, which knock on did you possibly think merited a yellow card? So you call for consistency, then are upset that Gareth Thomas was punished in exactly the same way as Alaalatoa was vs Scotland for a similar incident? To act like all contact the the head is punished the same is a little ridiculous to me, there are multiple mitigating factors which refs take into account and to act like you can’t see why Adamson reached the the conclusion he did for the Thomas incident is baffling. Like I said, I’d have handed out a red for it, but it’s not a reach to say that a yellow was fair too, based on level of danger and precedent. Nigel Owens’ take on the incident was similar to mine, he said “I can agree with a yellow card that Mike Adamson gave here because the degree of force was not particularly high. However, it was totally avoidable. For that reason, I would have gone with red.” You’re allowed to disagree with a ref’s decision and lament inconsistency but acting like it is almost all one way and claiming that Wales get treated differently to other teams doesn’t sound like genuine criticism, it sounds like bitterness. And that’s honestly how it came across. If you can point me to the alleged Welsh knock on that you claim should have been carded, I’ll give my honest thoughts on it, but so far nothing you have said has convinced me of this Welsh bias and beneficial inconsistency favouring them.

No, we’re just rugby fans who like to see an even playing field. Signed, every unbiased rugby fan in the world. 👍

@@douglasstewart3889 then aus need to follow the rules. The major decisions were correct as far as I can see.

@@douglasstewart3889 your hurting your team lost but if the shoe was on the other foot and you had taken a 1 point win and we had red and yellow cards you wouldn’t be whinging and moaning and you call us lot the whinging Pom Fuck me

If I recall correctly, there was a red to the opposing side in almost every Wales game I remember from the last six nations. At some point, when there’s a common denominator like that it makes me wonder if they’re being coached to put their head into contact on offense deliberately, which would be extremely dangerous and cynical. It feels like they’re finding a way to exploit the stricter rules for safety, or maybe it’s just a freak aberration that there seem to be more reds given to teams playing Wales than when the same teams play anybody else.

@@9502937 To make a stupid comment like maybe their coached to put their head in a position that will lead to red cards and possible concussion and facial injuries shows how utterly clueless you are let Valetini run into you full tilt head on head and then come back on here and make that statement ffs clueless 🤬🤬🤬

The laws of the game say different. You can't lead into a tackle with your head and contact to the head of the opposing player is going to be red without mitigating factors.

If teams cheat when under pressure and cant keep their discipline. It's the same rules for everyone. Being disciplined and patient isnt luck

@@williamtraep2984 not discipline but just the extra man which is the ref 😂😂

Sad, ZZzzz.

But France won againsed zew Zealand ?

Rutless but fair. Im irish

How? Which decision in the video is wrong?

@@gwh3013 im no expert. but there were many occasions that one side was penalized for something that the other side was allowed to continue. after I posted my comment I saw other comments in vids about the highlights of the game where many were questioning the refs decisions.

These clowns were a joke!!

@@kitbakz2483 i know right!?!? the refs truly deserve the clown award! LOL

@@gwh3013 bro your such a cornball stay replying to every comment disagreeing with the refs decisions get a life.

Head onto Head. That's a red by the laws.

@@gwh3013 Beard is above Valetini. N8 made a clean tackle, Beard made a dangerous head-down move himself.

Sometimes people see what they want to see, they cant accept defeat

@@williamtraep2984 I agree, sometimes they cannot. But I’m Russian, and I don’t root for Wales or Australia. I just see that N8 didn't play on purpose. Maximum yellow card, or just a penalty.

Ref had a good game. That was a red and a yellow for Aus. That was a try for Wales.

Agree …the ref spoiled the game 1) that shouldn’t be a red card(head on) 2) that was a clear knock on..pathetic Ref/TMO

Delusional

Lol players and spectators should know and keep up with the rule changes. You play what's in front of you and to the refs whistle as Pivac said "even a 5 year old player knows that". 13 & 14 man Aus played very well but the team were ill disciplined. According to the rules Tompkins try was legit no apology needed by ref. Learn the rules win more games.

That's a nice idea. But all sports change and evolve nothing stays the same. I admit though rugby does have a lot of rule changes compared to some sports but much of it is for player safety do you really want players to get dementia/alzheimers age 45? Also as far as I remember if the ball goes backwards it's no knock on.

What foul play you referring to exactly?

ALLOWED !!!

@@terrybrady392 sorry didn't mean to ruin your day

That’s now red ..that’s a proper tackle ..wales should’ve had a red card as well

@@victorlin9096 it's only a red at pro level you would be lucky to see a yellow given at ameteur level

@@victorlin9096 Victor, the guy wrapped his arms and had hold of his Jersey after he hit him and held onto him as he went to ground. I can't see any angle where I think that's anything other than a fair tackle. The only issue I have is that his head isn't on the right side. The fact that this is a red card in International rugby union is truly a shame. No one can slate football for having jessies on the pitch anymore

You mean where the tackler didn't show a clear release and put his hands on the ground before the ball? It's 6 of one, half a dozen of the other...

@@jofful123 I thought for a moment too, but I changed my mind when I saw that the tackle was around the hips and thighs… how could he therefore not release but still be in a completely different location with his hand on the ball? (Right in front of the ref too. Mind boggling.)

@@HelloMyNamesNino it's "clear release" you need to act and show the referee the release, so you flap your arms, once is enough hahah.

@@HelloMyNamesNino even if he has released he then puts his hands on the ground before the pall which counts as off feet

Mate Tom Wright should have had a yellow so I'd not complain about refs too much and be more annoyed about your teams discipline

the Welsh commentary were on for a winge all night, pretty pathetic considering they had just about the best luck in history with the referee

The responsibility for making the tackle safely is quite clearly on the tackler. This was a reckless tackle and deserved a red card. It’d have been close to one even before they put the new system in place, but under the current rules it’s absolutely clearly a red card.

Eh? If you know the rules of rugby, you'd know that's as clear and obvious red card as you get.

The Aussie oesn't get low at all, he just crashes into the welsh guy face first

Collide with the head of a 2nd row and you're not going to get looked on favourably. Besides, as has been mentioned, it's the tackler's responsibility. As for the intercept, if it went backwards (debate amongst yourselves!) then there is no law to say it's illegal, so try stands. If it did go forwards, it'd be decided on whether he was making a genuine attempt to catch. As he was swatting at it I think it'd be a yellow still, but it's nothing like Beale's really is it.

Name one. I’ll wait.

@@stevenmcalister826 it seems you're still waiting 😜

Sorry I was busy living a life.try it.

No it went backwards. It can't be a knock on if it goes backwards.

@@gwh3013 It didn’t though.

One of them Welsh phantom tries, french referee's tend to be their 16th man

@@alexjackson7313 The referee was Scottish!

@@padds3112 even worse

Maybe but at time Australia were just having a laugh and paid for it. Head butts, slapping the ball away. Over running people in the air. Pretty poor.

@@galinor7 Except when Wales slap the ball away it magically goes backwards. Who would’ve thought.

@@stevenmcalister826 it's called physics not magic

@@jamesmckay-mount8689 It’s actually the entire team of officials being totally blind, but you can call it physics if you like.

@@stevenmcalister826 I'm calling it exactly what it is. If a ball travels backwards off a surface then it's not possible for it to be a knock on. The Aussie players should have played the whistle. Also Tom Wright was very lucky not to get carded

Are you broken

Wtf are you sniffing