Walking The Stairs ZZZ vs Genshin Impact vs Honkai Starrail Vs Wuthering Waves

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@ongamech
@ongamech 14 күн бұрын
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@nguyenngwn7757
@nguyenngwn7757 14 күн бұрын
it's not possible to avoid feet noclipping into the stairs
@-z-9989
@-z-9989 14 күн бұрын
Star rail one isnt even walking on stairs tho, them just levitate slowly 😂
@Alex-UM7GTE
@Alex-UM7GTE 14 күн бұрын
Reminds me of the 3d era GTA
@Zevvy14
@Zevvy14 14 күн бұрын
and still got 5/10 lmao
@MrFern5
@MrFern5 13 күн бұрын
Yeah it’s clearly just a ramp hit box with a stair texture over top
@elina1271
@elina1271 13 күн бұрын
I love star rail but tbh 5/10 was to generous
@sylvyboi
@sylvyboi 13 күн бұрын
​@@elina1271 i was gonna say this lol. perhaps a 3/10 or less. no effort whatsoever
@resplandent
@resplandent 14 күн бұрын
Bro the WuWa rank was pure bias, you can see it's clearly awkward.
@shazamnegroid7379
@shazamnegroid7379 13 күн бұрын
Its better than walking on wedges. I'd say WuWa is second place simply because ZZZ does it better.
@SaraGon15
@SaraGon15 13 күн бұрын
@@shazamnegroid7379 how is better? look at how stiff the body is aside of the legs? look at the damn knees and those steps lmao not as bad as HSR but still bias as hell.
@pontoancora
@pontoancora 13 күн бұрын
​@@shazamnegroid7379man, the upper body is frozen, and the less stretch. Tell me, that's how you walk?
@feelthunder123
@feelthunder123 12 күн бұрын
⁠@@shazamnegroid7379atleast in genshin the character model leans forward when climbing stairs though their feet are gliding but the overall posture is natural, as the guy above me said the upper body in wuwa is literally frozen Overall it doesn’t feel natural at all whatever way you try to look at it
@shazamnegroid7379
@shazamnegroid7379 12 күн бұрын
@@SaraGon15 Sorry for the long wait, I was muted yesterday for reasons I cannot disclose. That said. I do agree about Wuthering Wavings having stiff animations, however there is nothing wrong with the knees or those steps, its the engine that handles collision that makes it look stiff. As you can see, the legs try to attach themselves to each step, and that doesn't align with the speed of the character which in turn makes the character move up 2 steps at a time - the engine doesn't have much time to register the movement so it instantly snaps the leg on to the steps. On another note, I am not biased towards Wuthering Waves. In fact, it appears that the more I've played a game, the lower it is on my tierlist. Honkai Star Rail on the bottom, Genshit after, Wuthering Waves surprisingly second place despite not being able to play it with more than 2 fps and then zzz - a game I haven't even downloaded yet.
@sofarsogood8680
@sofarsogood8680 14 күн бұрын
Wuwa's knees seems weirdly elongated . While ZZZ is the best
@pizzavert4020
@pizzavert4020 14 күн бұрын
The issue is that the stairs are way too big compared to the characters legs and feet
@sweetproject6337
@sweetproject6337 14 күн бұрын
He gave ww 8 But genshin 7 what?
@deeptobhattacharyya3249
@deeptobhattacharyya3249 14 күн бұрын
@@sweetproject6337 Genshin glides over staircase, what do you expect
@atomotron
@atomotron 14 күн бұрын
I would much prefer gliding over the stairs if it looks good. Take a notice: only in Genshin character bend a little when they start walking the stairs. In WuWa, they don't, and it looks really unnatural as the result. ZZZ tried to make it better, but it still looks worse than "fake-it-Genshin-style".
@hoseki4031
@hoseki4031 14 күн бұрын
ZZZ feet still clips through the stair cases though, WuWa is "bouncy" but it has by far the best collision detection which is great for parkouring .
@zaindawood
@zaindawood 11 күн бұрын
no way you gave wuwa 8\10 thier knees look like they could break at any seconed from going up the stairs bro 😭😭😭
@piercinglif3ss
@piercinglif3ss 10 күн бұрын
LMFAOO 😭
@hyomie2254
@hyomie2254 6 күн бұрын
bro is wuwa bias that why
@beanssumang5560
@beanssumang5560 14 күн бұрын
I wouldn't call wuthering waves have the best staircase walking animation... I mean, that look awkward even though their feet do really step on each step, but it just looks like skipping one step at a time.
@atomotron
@atomotron 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, agreed. Its exactly the case of "technology over the art". Looks awful.
@srdeku
@srdeku 14 күн бұрын
right? I thought he/she's gonna rate it the same as Genshin but WW wass slightly higher. kek. Rover taking the very first step started to look funny and then awkward. I think Genshin was ok specially with the upper half part (the bounce, etc.) and then WuWa almost did it right with the lower half (the actual stepping). With that I think they're both 7/10.
@lisamarieschnee
@lisamarieschnee 14 күн бұрын
Calling it the best is another showcase on how wuwa glazers are completely blind to the mediocre quality of the game. No one bends their knee like how the characters do when they walk up stairs. Just look at how far the knee is from the body. 8/10 WTF?!?
@ilovepengins
@ilovepengins 14 күн бұрын
they look like their legs are about to break
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 14 күн бұрын
It's got better collision but lacks physics. For me ZZZ does it best.
@Daivd1111
@Daivd1111 14 күн бұрын
NO, Wuwa's movement is so unnatural, no upper body movement at all, even when their foot don't clip through stairs, they look like robots!!! 6/10
@akasahi9315
@akasahi9315 10 күн бұрын
But this is talking about walking animation, the physics on registering what's underneath the model. In WuWa, they actually bounce and step over. You should try it on a similar stairs as what's shown on Genshin and HSR and it looks alot better. Idk why the video creator used the big stairs, but if you use the big stairs in Genshin, it looks worse
@bruno_ist_mein_liebe
@bruno_ist_mein_liebe 8 күн бұрын
1/10
@StickzDev
@StickzDev 7 күн бұрын
That's because WuWa isn't using a separate animation for stairs, neither is Genshin or any hoyoverse games. They just use inverse kinematics to make sure the feet are properly placed in each step. I just think you're hating on the game because of your bias.
@OddC00kie9
@OddC00kie9 5 күн бұрын
Who cares
@owowhatsthis555
@owowhatsthis555 4 күн бұрын
legs for daysss, reminds me of cockroaches ngl
@user-rizelthebaka
@user-rizelthebaka 14 күн бұрын
1:05 Excuse me what? Best animation so far? Are WuWa fans actually that blind, look at their Knees bro 💀
@Starberry7
@Starberry7 13 күн бұрын
They’re in love with the game and have a hate boner for Genshin.
@user-rizelthebaka
@user-rizelthebaka 12 күн бұрын
@@Starberry7 Bro istg WuWa is so fking Overrated and D-ridden. I never played genshin but i did play WuWa and quit it. Nothing too extraordinary tbh. Everything is quite similar to Genshin's and not only that they copied buncha stuffs from various games too. Like they never rly tried to change anything except the few combat mechanics lmao
@Starberry7
@Starberry7 12 күн бұрын
@@user-rizelthebaka it‘s overrated because it’s pretty much one of the only Anime Open World competitors to Genshin Impact and quite a few people have a hate boner for Genshin.
@LadyRoeanna
@LadyRoeanna 11 күн бұрын
i genuinely think the only thing going for wuwa is gacha because that's the only thing that's better than genshin/hoyoverse imo. i had to quit wuwa because it didnt work on my computer or phone, but during the time i played it, the story just felt so similar to hsr. the beginning scene with that one lady (sorry idk her name) felt like kafka and trailblazer while the one with the cpr or something felt like trailblazer, dan heng, and march 7th 😭😭 I get it if maybe these are common themes in most games (especially the first one) but still, it wouldn't hurt to be more original. it's a post apocalyptic theme (iirc?), there's so many different things you can do story wise to separate it from genshin/hsr/even hi3, and it feels like their choosing not to. speaking of hi3, the combat system looks so similar. again, maybe it's a common theme, but still. i'd love a new gacha game with a totally different concept from things like hsr/hi3/genshin 😭😭 sorry for the yap session ☹☹
@sshk1653
@sshk1653 10 күн бұрын
They are trying to the stanky leg
@RafelAlva
@RafelAlva 14 күн бұрын
I feel like right now genshin looks the best. Their legs and body didnt move awkwardly, the leg dont randomly snap like wuwa and zzz. Althought sometimes it clipped through the stair, overall it looks nice and clean
@hobobrojo
@hobobrojo 11 күн бұрын
Genshin feels animated most correct due to slight lean forward while going up, unlike WuWa and ZZZ which are basically vertical. Foot placement might be more accurate, but not the character's center of gravity.
@Steir12
@Steir12 11 күн бұрын
@@hobobrojo Genshin stairs are probably just ramps in disguise hence awkward foot placement. Animation itself is pretty nice.
@chiplienie
@chiplienie 9 күн бұрын
Yeah in Genshin it looks like they’re actually pulling up their body when walking up
@Ookami-08
@Ookami-08 8 күн бұрын
​​@@Steir12 I think the "ramp in disguise" applies more in HSR. In Genshin it's a stair but the animation was just for climbing a single type of stairs that's why the characters' feet clips through or that it doesn't have proper collision in each step.
@Gyuujin
@Gyuujin 8 күн бұрын
same
@cherryjoonie006
@cherryjoonie006 14 күн бұрын
Genshins was okay. Honkai star rails characters didn't even looked like they are walking on stairs it looked like they are just walking on a straight path. Wuthering waves for some reason rover walking the stairs made me laugh tho it was okay okay. Z.Z.Z's was so far the best they were actually walking on stairs
@atomotron
@atomotron 14 күн бұрын
In HSR, they just got lazy. Understandable: this game has been simplified in every way to maximize profits with as less effort as possible. In ZZZ, I feel like they wanted to make it better, but still made it look worse. The motion looks back-ass-wards, I don't know how to explain it: its like she lift the foot at the end of the motion instead of doing it in the beginning like people do when they walk stairs.
@oreo0sama
@oreo0sama 14 күн бұрын
Tbf, the angle kinda favoured zzz.
@Kindi001
@Kindi001 14 күн бұрын
ah true, if only the angle same PoV
@CsGalaxyID
@CsGalaxyID 14 күн бұрын
​@@atomotron Understandable. But still, its byfar the realistic looking one. WuWa got them goofy ahh leg actions. GI is acceptable. HSR has its character just float slowly (It feels more like walking on a ramp imo) I think a few tweaks in the motion loop and ZZZ should look a bit nicer
@oreo0sama
@oreo0sama 14 күн бұрын
@@CsGalaxyID id say WuWa had the best,since it has proper collision and from the back(tpp) it looks good(but it does look real janky from the side), zzz had horrible clippings even with the favourable angle but had the best animation. Hsr non existent , genshins looks ok.
@chihaotran1568
@chihaotran1568 14 күн бұрын
In wuwa the feet still phase through the stairs lol Also the animation is stiff af clearly biased rating lol 8/10 my a**
@dominickrecana2335
@dominickrecana2335 14 күн бұрын
yeah lol. that upper body is so stiff, and the legs? 😂
@SpellboundSpectre
@SpellboundSpectre 14 күн бұрын
Fun fact, the stair hitbox needs to be smooth for walking to be optimised, but the way the characters walk is different depending on the character so they bend and clip a little
@f2pgames420
@f2pgames420 14 күн бұрын
Even though in genshin the feet doesnt land on steps or sometimes out of bounds, the animation is so smooth and it feels natural unlike in WW and ZZZ the bending of knees kinda weird and the spacing of steps in WW is huge comoared to others. HSR has its own way if waliking in stairs 😂😂😂
@alwinchai9394
@alwinchai9394 14 күн бұрын
This exactly
@zekkekeipa6521
@zekkekeipa6521 14 күн бұрын
It smooth because tghs animation is not only for stairs. Its used on many steep terrain slopes in the world to reflect how difficult for a character to climb.
@coffeeenjoyer2847
@coffeeenjoyer2847 14 күн бұрын
because wuwa put the thing exactly on the feet to parkour and stuff
@2010ngojo
@2010ngojo 9 күн бұрын
The forward lean is what makes it look natural. How often do people walk up stairs with the backs straight up? That's where wuwa and zzz fails in my book. Hsr isn't even in the competition.
@laskann
@laskann 14 күн бұрын
Wuthering waves does not have walking upstairs animation. You can see that their upper bodies behave the same as if they were walking forward. The walking upstairs is handled entirely through inverse kinematics, which is not the same as bespoke animations. It's basically algorythm that forces their legs to raise to match the elevation of surface they are standing on. Which is why it looks kinda awkward. It's obviously better than nothing like HSR, but I wouldn't call it best. If anything, despite being less precise, genshin's upper body movement matches the legs better somehow... can't belive I am complimenting genshin.
@yeeeze7461
@yeeeze7461 14 күн бұрын
Yeah gen shin upperbody adjustment makes it seems better to me, and altho both legs seems weird sometines with genshin with its clip and wuthering waves with its leg reaching too far that it skips some steps, genshin still got my props for this
@MJAY552
@MJAY552 14 күн бұрын
there is nothing wrong about complimenting genshin.
@eightyeight2379
@eightyeight2379 14 күн бұрын
Objectively, of course, it's right to criticize and compliment a game to where it really lacks/shines. Take GI as an example, no matter how many people shit on it (gEnShin cOUld nEVeR, etc), it's still a great game with a solid playerbase of whopping 62M players logging in monthly
@MJAY552
@MJAY552 14 күн бұрын
@@eightyeight2379 Exactly. They dismiss the good things because of the bad things. No game is perfect anyway.
@MoonLight-mf1fe
@MoonLight-mf1fe 13 күн бұрын
On game said "the best *so far* " before they showed ZZZ
@Maruhodo
@Maruhodo 14 күн бұрын
genshin with its clipping issues looked fine to me cuz the secondary hand motion (the waving arms) looks good, it's like there's a weight to it. also the characters are looking up. i think it should be scored higher. HSR = 0/10. i think they dont have a special animation for stairs, just regular walking animation. holy that wuwa animation gave me nightmare.. it's good but somehow very wrong, like some sort of uncanny valley. if they would just lean a bit forward and it'd be perfect. belle slouch a bit so it helped alot with the animation. She looked down the steps, and also the bounce is very good.
@atomotron
@atomotron 14 күн бұрын
In WuWa, they didn't bend the character, that's why the motion looks extremely unnatural. Overall, I feel like they just made the engine calculate the feet and knee position without any adjustment. Even in Skyrim it was done better, although the same idea, but they at least put some work in it. But it still looks awkward sometimes. In WuWa, it looks bad ALL the time.
@Scarten22
@Scarten22 14 күн бұрын
Wuwa has big steps, it would be better if the character didn't walk in a hurry
@kostakonomi
@kostakonomi 14 күн бұрын
To truly see what the genshin stairs are capable of look the eula stair walking on the monster camp
@neeevirus
@neeevirus 14 күн бұрын
In wuwa it seems like only the feet are moving and everything else is stationary That and maybe the characters have a straight body pointing directly up instead of leaning which makes the center of gravity unbalanced (?)
@vr4893
@vr4893 14 күн бұрын
Might be a bit biased toward wuwa there buddy.
@akasahi9315
@akasahi9315 10 күн бұрын
He's being fair. The only reason why Genshin's look better is because the characters don't actually try to step over the stairs. Basically the geometry collision on Genshin stairs are just plain straight and inclined, like an uphill rather than actual stairs. If you take a look at Genshin's upper body, it doesn't move at all. You only get that illusion that it moves, but if you cover half of their body or your screen, you won't notice if they started walking on the stairs or riding an escalator
@michealb8508
@michealb8508 9 күн бұрын
@@akasahi9315 my guy blind af right here
@vr4893
@vr4893 9 күн бұрын
@@michealb8508 no no he got a point. I mean he practically admitted it himself right? *"Genshin's look better"* and that's what we're rating here no? The overall *looks* . Can't seem to agree with your 2nd point though akasahi, they seem to be moving just fine on my end but...maybe that's just me.
@investor9653
@investor9653 14 күн бұрын
I prefer smooth and natural movement like genshin , even they don’t step accurately on the stair 😊
@shazamnegroid7379
@shazamnegroid7379 13 күн бұрын
100% animation, 0% stair climbing.
@jyrl.0999
@jyrl.0999 13 күн бұрын
WW: 80% Stair Climbing, 20% animation
@pontoancora
@pontoancora 13 күн бұрын
​@COSMOGCKE 0% animation. That legs are nightmare inducing
@jyrl.0999
@jyrl.0999 12 күн бұрын
@@pontoancora for real
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 10 күн бұрын
Star Rail: 0% animation, 0% stair climbing
@Megoover
@Megoover 14 күн бұрын
Somehow WuWa looks even worse than HSR, i'd prefer no stair animation over that nightmare. ZZZ has almost the same problem, while being a little bit better. Overall GI was the best
@shazamnegroid7379
@shazamnegroid7379 13 күн бұрын
Genshit's was 100% animation, 0% stair climbing. Honkai star rail was 0% animation, 0% stair climbing Wuthering Waves was... Awkward but you can tell that the characters are walking up the steps, as scuffed as it looked And Zenless Zone Zero took what Wuthering Waves did and upgraded it - making it look more fluid and natural. Overall I'd say ZZZ - 1st WuWa - 2nd GI - 3rd HSR - sadly 4th
@pontoancora
@pontoancora 13 күн бұрын
​@shazamnegroid7379 no way, look at the ww legs, that's nightmare inducing
@MoonLight-mf1fe
@MoonLight-mf1fe 13 күн бұрын
@@pontoancora Bro is so mad he replying on every comment that put Wuwa over genshin 😂 truly the genstan of all time
@pontoancora
@pontoancora 13 күн бұрын
@@MoonLight-mf1fe Well, almost all comments are already pointing that ww animation is shit, so it was very easy.
@MoonLight-mf1fe
@MoonLight-mf1fe 13 күн бұрын
@@pontoancora Yet no one says genshin has good animations either. Keep crying tho, I love to see it
@Teddy-wz9mw
@Teddy-wz9mw 14 күн бұрын
Bruh how can you rate Wuwa 8/10 This problem has got me tingled as a first day player. The animation is so bad and their clothes are clipping during that animation too bruh😭
@entityglitch8429
@entityglitch8429 9 күн бұрын
You guys actually pay attention to this stuff? I was just enjoying playing the game
@Ookami-08
@Ookami-08 8 күн бұрын
​​​@@entityglitch8429 I mean sometimes you will just inevitably see things like that in game even if you didn't intend to see it. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ For example, when I was playing WuWa normally, I realized that I suddenly got dizzy out of nowhere. When I tried to move the camera and my character, I found out that the way the character jumps and the way the camera moves there is a little too clunky; it's like getting whiplash with my eyes and it made me dizzy. In Genshin, I was just exploring and was climbing the long ahh stairs when I suddenly noticed the foot placement is not accurate. I only discovered it after months of playing since it's not that noticeable esp when you're not paying attention to those kinds of things.
@StickzDev
@StickzDev 7 күн бұрын
@@entityglitch8429 ON GOD THOUGH Instead of berating a game for something so small, criticize it for actual major issues in the game or instead just enjoy the damn game..
@kilanech6186
@kilanech6186 7 күн бұрын
@@entityglitch8429 nobody pays attention, but when somebody dedicate a video on it ofc the comments are going to be about it. Same as to how you're clicking on this video even though you don't pay attention to this stuff
@satanistka8119
@satanistka8119 20 сағат бұрын
@@entityglitch8429 i wasnt spending much time at the sity n didnt completed the story yet, but since time passes i do pay attention to those details😅
@thaitoan4760
@thaitoan4760 14 күн бұрын
Tell me you’re a Wuwa simp without telling me
@Kyla8132
@Kyla8132 14 күн бұрын
I appreciate Genshin's posture leaning slightly forward though. The other 3 examples look so silly maintaining that 90 degree angle torso when their legs are going to town.
@psyme-
@psyme- 14 күн бұрын
How do you walk up stairs? Rover: BIG STEPPY!
@whisperviz1346
@whisperviz1346 14 күн бұрын
Now you know why it's called Honkai Star Rail not Honkai Stair Rail 😂😂
@khanhbachvan1554
@khanhbachvan1554 12 күн бұрын
Bruh what😂
@raiden8063
@raiden8063 8 күн бұрын
We got Cyno over here.
@whenyounutinhermouthandshe
@whenyounutinhermouthandshe 5 күн бұрын
Delete your account.
@thomas_the_cat
@thomas_the_cat 14 күн бұрын
genshin actually has the best one and more natural motions, aside from the feet missing the steps... wuwa looks like the characters' backs are too stiff, and the leg motions are a bit awkward ... hsr has the worst for sure because its basically normal walking animation
@Capn-185
@Capn-185 14 күн бұрын
WuWa makes their upper bodies look like uncooked spaghetti noodles
@oyshikaadi9631
@oyshikaadi9631 14 күн бұрын
Bruh WW one deservers a 6/10, not 8. Its hella unnatural, there's no balancing at all like in Genshin (Characters don't lean) and worst of all is that the legs don't even raise themselves to the next step. It just straight up teleports to the next height. It looks goofy as hell.
@shazamnegroid7379
@shazamnegroid7379 13 күн бұрын
The feet in genshin don't even touch the steps 97% of the time.
@oyshikaadi9631
@oyshikaadi9631 13 күн бұрын
@@shazamnegroid7379 In Genshin's case, I can give an excuse since its mostly designed for slopy terrain and rocks, and that the tech they are using is 4 years old now. I can't give the same excuse to WW. They are using Unreal 4, came out recently, and did a shoddy ass work on Inverse Kinematics full body animations. I would expect more improvements on a later developed game.
@drekhunter
@drekhunter 13 күн бұрын
@@oyshikaadi9631 On a walking animation that's not gonna be used like 99% of the time? on an view angle that's not the usual one? I'll do you one better, how is it possible for ZZZ animation to be so sloppy for a current year game that has to animate like 5 or six sets of staircases due to not being open world and that runs the whole thing on a single character? The answer as to why ALL FOUR are so bad is because they don't need to be good, specially since I've seen what some people are willing to overlook when it comes to animations. "Robotically rotates 180 degrees and leaves doing a billion dollar worth applause emote"
@oyshikaadi9631
@oyshikaadi9631 13 күн бұрын
@@drekhunter Why are you bringing ZZZ here when my initial comment was on WW (and then Genshin?) And what do you mean by "animation thats not going to be used 99% of the time?" Have you ever played Genshin? 100% of the entire fucking game is walking on uneven terrain. Why do you think people keeps comparing WW movement to Genshin's? There are literally no areas where the terrain is completely flat apart maybe from city roads.
@drekhunter
@drekhunter 13 күн бұрын
@@oyshikaadi9631 I dunno maybe because the video has a ZZZ at the end? You aren't walking on any of those games, you're jogging most of the time.
@atomotron
@atomotron 14 күн бұрын
I don't know man, for me walking in WuWa looks ugly as hell. Sure, in HSR they got lazy and didn't even change the motion - characters walk as if they were on flat surface - but it is still relatively good to look at.
@miyan4velicz
@miyan4velicz 14 күн бұрын
its just this angle, which we will never actually do in-game ofc
@atomotron
@atomotron 14 күн бұрын
​@@miyan4velicz actually, I do turn the camera all the time when moving, and especially in combat, to get better awareness of my surroundings.
@vampiszoonis9691
@vampiszoonis9691 8 күн бұрын
​@@atomotronyou gonna combat on stairs!? Damn. That's funny.
@Kokozaftran
@Kokozaftran 14 күн бұрын
No way you are rating WW's as the best. Look how lanky and weird those characters move.
@nathanreed8281
@nathanreed8281 14 күн бұрын
They half squat for each step. It looks like what athletes do when they are doing stair drills...only super lazy. So, like...bad athletes I guess?
@dekirianto5853
@dekirianto5853 14 күн бұрын
It's zzz tho who the best
@hoseki4031
@hoseki4031 14 күн бұрын
@@dekirianto5853 you need to get your eyes washed, you can see that their feet is still clipping through the stairs, I would put it in the same level as genshin imact in terms of collision detection.
@dekirianto5853
@dekirianto5853 14 күн бұрын
@@hoseki4031 no bro I mean ON game rating zzz the best lol
@hoseki4031
@hoseki4031 14 күн бұрын
@@dekirianto5853 tf do you mean game rating we are talking abt stairs here, also wuwa has a better rating in china and on google play than zzz
@Someone-wr4ms
@Someone-wr4ms 13 күн бұрын
I remember how once I needed to code something similar to a step animation for a university project... It's hard... like really hard... and the solution I found was probably super unoptimized as well... But to me, WuWa and ZZZ look super weird, It might be a hot take, but I think genshin nailed it the most out of these four, instead of focusing on the part most players won't be noticing, they added extra detail to the motion people would be paying the most attention to... going back to the project I mentioned, I ended up scratching that Idea, and instead, just lifted the camera upwards a bit when using stairs so that the feet weren't as obvious. sometimes the easiest answer is also the correct one
@ElliFong
@ElliFong 14 күн бұрын
Fun fact because Wuwa is using Unreal so the way it was done is totally different from Zzz and Genshin, pretty sure unity engine already had similar function for characters climbing a stair I am not sure why it wasn't done for Star rail tho
@D_D_L
@D_D_L 12 күн бұрын
Star Rail didn't do it to minimise animation storage, though the animation could be added back in. WW simply doesn't have it, they were only using basic IK to bound the characters' feet to the surface, like HI3 part one with that sht codes HoYo had.
@XEROXAYUKI
@XEROXAYUKI 14 күн бұрын
WW walking animation always looked a little less smooth to me compare to GI and ZZZ. But hey making this stairs animation better is kinda tough. Most AAA games also struggle to make it perfect
@WardLett
@WardLett 14 күн бұрын
Out of every game that i played-- L.A. Noire has the best stairs animation.
@namiii8412
@namiii8412 14 күн бұрын
Wuwa body is just upright not leaning.. it looks weird. Like they only made legs and arms swing but forget the rest of the body
@htet2002linn
@htet2002linn 14 күн бұрын
Walking in wuwa? No no we run. 😅
@destiny_02
@destiny_02 14 күн бұрын
Wouldn't gliding be faster? Ehe~
@OyasuriZzz
@OyasuriZzz 14 күн бұрын
​​@@destiny_02enough with your scams Venti 🔫
@TempestNightmare
@TempestNightmare 14 күн бұрын
​@@destiny_02 Ehe!? Te nandayo!
@IfUSeekAndy
@IfUSeekAndy 14 күн бұрын
You mean we run up walls 😅
@ivanteoh930
@ivanteoh930 14 күн бұрын
U mean parkour
@medihidayah9895
@medihidayah9895 14 күн бұрын
Why do I always feel so strange when I see wuwa characters climbing the stairs? 😰 Their feet seems elongated?
@elaine5556
@elaine5556 5 күн бұрын
They bend their knees too much
@rona-z2376
@rona-z2376 14 күн бұрын
i dunno, but in my genshin when my character steps on stairs feet stacks perfectly to the stairs, not floating like that
@user-rz9ve2it1s
@user-rz9ve2it1s 9 күн бұрын
nah wuwa is lower than genshin. who walks up the stairs with their body leaning backward? genshin gets it right since the characters lean forward.
@lordsofkeci4542
@lordsofkeci4542 14 күн бұрын
Wuwa's problem is that the upper body doesn't move with the legs so it looks like they stretching like their legs some kind rubber.
@thing4826
@thing4826 14 күн бұрын
Genshin 7/10, HSR 0/10 (no animation), WW 5/10, ZZZ 5/10. Can't really rate the games much higher when RDR2 does far better stair matching, I'd give it a 9/10.
@goooseywhorambles
@goooseywhorambles 14 күн бұрын
something about the wuthering waves animation is unsettling, the way their knees bend so much??
@Arpin_Lusene
@Arpin_Lusene 14 күн бұрын
Wuwa's is kinda like me trying to walk on wooden stairs without making any noise
@IbbyMelbourne
@IbbyMelbourne 9 күн бұрын
I dont know why, but Wuwa's creeps me out, they walk like weird aliens
@onasis_tsuyoi1171
@onasis_tsuyoi1171 14 күн бұрын
8 for WW are you sure ?
@reesarts
@reesarts 12 күн бұрын
wuwa's doesn't look better than genshin's, genshin characters lean forward to maintain balance when climbing the stairs which makes it 8/10 for me. wuwa characters' feet pass through the stairs as well when going up and their limb proportions don't look right which makes it 6/10 for me
@lonk7596
@lonk7596 14 күн бұрын
Is genshin the only one where the characters look up/down when going up/down stairs
@Satya-tr7lm
@Satya-tr7lm 14 күн бұрын
Didn't realize how the feet is always stepping on stairs because most of the time the player just running
@IthquaisChibi
@IthquaisChibi 14 күн бұрын
Starrails animation looks like they are walking on an invisible slanting plane
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 10 күн бұрын
That's because they are.
@zh7k0
@zh7k0 13 күн бұрын
The only thing I see is that is hard to animate characters walking on stairs 🤣
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 10 күн бұрын
Animating characters walking on ramps isn't trivial either, but it's a heck of a lot easier, especially since the animation can actually tell the angle of inclination, where as for actual stairs, the ground is level at every point, losing that valuable information. In order to get things right, you'd basically need two separate models; one as a ramp to provide the slope, and one as stairs to provide the targets for the inverse kinematics.
@kri1ndawn440
@kri1ndawn440 14 күн бұрын
Tbf there actually not many AAA openworld games with fully accurate stair walking animations that dobt look jank in some way. GI and HSR basically focused on the animation itself using proper body language elsewhere to make walking look somewhat convincing if you don't examine it up close which if Wuwa did would make theirs look more natural
@DeadVoxel
@DeadVoxel 14 күн бұрын
I feel like a problem that both WuWa and ZZZ share in common is, it feels like they're walking backwards and not lifting their legs high enough above the ground nor tilt their torso, which makes it look like the feet just slide up and get rubbed against the stairs. Or for WuWa, it feels like the characters lift up the knees a little too high, which makes it look like they're crouching and dragging their legs instead, while the characters' torso is completely straight Genshin nailed it pretty well in terms of movement, it doesn't feel stiff or unrealistic, with the exception that the characters are practically floating over the stairs or even clipping through HSR just wasn't meant for moving around as openly, it's more combat-focused and it's more about the story than the walking, so it's pretty fair that they didn't bother making an animation for walking up the stairs, especially since they would probably have to tweak a few things in the mechanics and the models. Most of the surfaces are pretty flat, so it's only normal All in all, these games did really well in this video, but they all have their flaws of course
@suleyman9199
@suleyman9199 12 күн бұрын
Admit it. Genshin has one of the best stair animation. Be it the domming-bopping descend or the im-bout-to-beat-the-shit-out-of-you ascend
@farikkun1841
@farikkun1841 14 күн бұрын
I still remember in GTA V when your character sprint/jog then met stairs, they will take small stippy step adjusting their feet to individual stair steps
@D_D_L
@D_D_L 12 күн бұрын
Though it's not entirely ture. Those were individual stair walking animations. Good props to Rockstar for attention to detail in 2015, but it's not perfect, you still clip through stairs.
@user-oe1qs6tr8t
@user-oe1qs6tr8t 14 күн бұрын
The rating towards wuwa was pure bias ngl
@SignOne
@SignOne 14 күн бұрын
imo genshins the best then its a tie between ww and zenless and hsr doesnt have stairs animation
@wonnie3174
@wonnie3174 12 күн бұрын
The glazing on wuwa is crazy💀🙏
@soul1641
@soul1641 5 күн бұрын
Wuwa looks like an exhausted marathon runner when the legs are about go give up😂😂🙏
@FireBlueZ
@FireBlueZ 14 күн бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Genshin's stepping animation issue happen when they make QoL update for Ayaka/Mona sprint to not stuck.
@slahser
@slahser 14 күн бұрын
Notice how the ZZZ showcase is on a better angle 😂
@kyuutatsu
@kyuutatsu 14 күн бұрын
Wuwa was a solid 1/10, it’s creepy. ZZZ 8/10
@shsuemlshdk
@shsuemlshdk 14 күн бұрын
Animating step movements in unreal engine 4 is easy but mobile devices will suffer from performance issues of UE4
@guest_14.1.19
@guest_14.1.19 14 күн бұрын
I like how in GI the characters lean forward when walking up the stairs. I can't see from this angle whether ZZZ also does it though.
@lumpystilskin5367
@lumpystilskin5367 14 күн бұрын
Wuwa devs: *taking notes*
@lazysoulff1194
@lazysoulff1194 14 күн бұрын
No wuwa character angle looks weird I still think genshin stair animation is best
@Ilovefood-wu3vm
@Ilovefood-wu3vm 13 күн бұрын
I don't think so they look like they are trying to be Jesus walking on water but instead on air but just making it seem like the stairs are way too big and they need a big long step Z•Z•Z did it way better and is just better imo
@christiancabiles8498
@christiancabiles8498 13 күн бұрын
IK on the legs interacting with the stair objects. It's difficult to match the rhythm of the animation cycle and how high the steps are if the animation is done manually especially the speed of the stair climbing cycle animation. The character movement is done on the engine they basically animate the character walk and run cycles in place so a lot of back and forth or a lot of tuning for the one implementing the animation to the engine to make the running animation perfect and to not see the character kinda ice skating on the stairs or ground when the walk and other movement animation plays.
@schwifty07_
@schwifty07_ 9 күн бұрын
wuwa's animation is literally me when the stair is too short to walk one by one
@Arsaroon
@Arsaroon 14 күн бұрын
HSR: stairs are upwards flat plain, no characters interaction to the geometry GI: similar to HSR but characters physics can moderately interact to the stair WW: just like genshin but it’s trying a lil too hard to make every steps land on the stair(results in weird animation) ZZZ: WW but more polished👍🏻(still can be janky tho)
@Sirindilable
@Sirindilable 14 күн бұрын
IMHO WW is the worst here. So jagged and unfinished. - horrible inverse kinematics. HSR not even tried to make stair animation, it is just a walk animation with z axis movement. But even that looks better then WW.
@dsaasd-k8r
@dsaasd-k8r 14 күн бұрын
Yeah WuWa should of just taken the lazy route like HSR They put effort into it but screwed up so it ends up looking weird
@ciaociaiaia
@ciaociaiaia 14 күн бұрын
male rover looks like a fkng creep w that walk bro
@coralruler
@coralruler 14 күн бұрын
it looked like they were marching up the stairs lol
@seraphoftheend5768
@seraphoftheend5768 13 күн бұрын
WW's legs look like they have a mind of their own. Like the body is just a cardboard cutout tacked on the legs.
@coralruler
@coralruler 13 күн бұрын
@@seraphoftheend5768 frr, but they got good character models now. sad that they replaced the trash models from pgr with good ones in wuwa, but got rid of the good vfx that pgr had when making wuwa
@klitsanatsreesonyut4661
@klitsanatsreesonyut4661 13 күн бұрын
Zzz = Wuwa for me just different angle
@coocambur8347
@coocambur8347 5 күн бұрын
I just got a zzz ad, then a honkai ad, then a genshin impact ad 💀💀💀
@ardee9337
@ardee9337 14 күн бұрын
Can we have character summoning animations comparisons for these games next please?? I haven't seen one yet
@user-fr9oz8bh1t
@user-fr9oz8bh1t 9 күн бұрын
In any case, the animations for walking up stairs in all games look really cool, but they also have problems
@lucasantonyalbon846
@lucasantonyalbon846 14 күн бұрын
The bounce animation to me seems 10/10 on zzz
@Nighthawk14c
@Nighthawk14c 14 күн бұрын
Why do we even have this ? Like i understand if it's something like the ladderish kind of stairs near that one hilichurl camp ,but who even goes and checks for normal stair movement ,wouldn't most just dash(or grapple in wuwa's case) whenever they are moving ?
@Nighthawk14c
@Nighthawk14c 14 күн бұрын
I'm not saying that it was not unique/interesting to see but it's still suck a random topic to take note of
@Nighthawk14c
@Nighthawk14c 14 күн бұрын
Still such*
@kero9332
@kero9332 5 күн бұрын
Zenless Zone Zero only has to animate 2 characters so it's easier. You can't see your gacha characters outside of combat 😢
@isthatbraised
@isthatbraised 3 күн бұрын
I wish you could explore the map using your characters in zzz (but belle is good too)
@hura_.
@hura_. 14 күн бұрын
my opinion: 1. zzz 2. genshin 3. hsr 4. wuwa ・wuwa is low because of the streched out knee
@monika-m18a
@monika-m18a 14 күн бұрын
I didn't even notice this until now, thank god that I don't need to see it because it looks weird and I'm always sprint cause I'm in a hurry..
@aoffydosy1530
@aoffydosy1530 10 күн бұрын
WuWa is also the open - world game, the detail also affects slightly for elevated floor
@crazypegasie9748
@crazypegasie9748 10 күн бұрын
I feel like wuthering waves looks like how aliens would try to imitate walking up the stairs. It looks stiff and awkward, and kind of wrong.
@SmashTheAdam
@SmashTheAdam 8 күн бұрын
I did not know people were actually taking the time to look at how characters walk up and down the stairs, I'm always just zooming around, and using skills or techniques that make us move faster (like Sayu's sonic dash in genshin and Acheron's technique in star rail) EDIT: maybe ZZZ's is the best because there's only one out two possible models for players to use when free-roaming, so maybe that made it easier for them, since they don't have to account for different models (like child model and tall model, or all the different outfits for different characters) just my two cents, I don't know how it looks for the agents in missions though, then again, I don't remember there being any stairs during missions
@Mister_Dude
@Mister_Dude 9 күн бұрын
How can you rate genshin and star rail even more than 1
@Reallyney
@Reallyney 14 күн бұрын
After watching this video i forgot how to walk on stairs
@Blushiesz
@Blushiesz 2 күн бұрын
Wuwa one look like they legs are straining to do that
@alter425
@alter425 11 күн бұрын
No way wuthering waves stair animation is the best, it looks so weird to watch, even though I can't pinpoint it exactly, it looks unnaturally funny especially rover
@joseijosei
@joseijosei 11 күн бұрын
1:00 "wuthering so far has the best stair animation"... What? The order is as it follows: Genshin > ZZZ > WuWa > Star Rail. I would understand if based on this video you think ZZZ has the better stairs animations (you were probably only looking at their feet), but you aren't taking into account that depending on the stairs Genshin can look much better, and that from either the front or behind it pretty much always does. On top of that, it has actual "on stairs" animations that are different from normal walking. They are pretty good for open world standards in general, so when it comes down to female characters, people love to show them walking on stairs. The rest of the games? WuWa doesn't have unique animations for the upper body, and legs look weird af. ZZZ is fine, but lower body movement isn't as good as in Genshin (I'm surprised that, being the type of game it is, ZZZ's animations are that good), and Star Rail doesn't even have them.
@BlackRuby67
@BlackRuby67 11 күн бұрын
Name of the song used?
@wizkiller96tv
@wizkiller96tv 14 күн бұрын
Most of these are usually done automatically by the game engine. It adjust the animation when walk on different elevations. Of course it never perfect.
@christensummers9641
@christensummers9641 8 күн бұрын
Wuwa’s characters look like their legs are breaking when they walk up the stairs lol
@splashlotus2423
@splashlotus2423 10 күн бұрын
Wuwa’s got some serious joint popping going on there. I’m literally studying animation and had to constantly figure out ways to prevent that… Stairs don’t make it easy…
@WuwaMeatRider_1000
@WuwaMeatRider_1000 14 күн бұрын
What was going on with rover's knee 😭😭
@oreo0sama
@oreo0sama 14 күн бұрын
What i learned from this, wuwa has the best collision, zzz has the best animation (but the they still clip while walking).
@Misha_my_boy
@Misha_my_boy 4 күн бұрын
WuWa characters knees have me concerned Also is there a stair animation for honkai impact 3rd?
@sanchikotjendrakasih9138
@sanchikotjendrakasih9138 12 күн бұрын
"that is not how to walk through stairs". HSR: "rule made to be broken".
@startea0412
@startea0412 14 күн бұрын
0:16 casually steping on air
@dalhaval283
@dalhaval283 14 күн бұрын
wuwa ones looks like those military parade XD
@XANDERcanDRAW
@XANDERcanDRAW 14 күн бұрын
Jinhsi: (Walking on her invincible stairs) Me: Yessss Queen!
@cindariel
@cindariel 5 күн бұрын
Wuva looks like walking in squat lol
@Silverfang0969
@Silverfang0969 4 күн бұрын
I played all of the games 😂 but I never really focused on the animation 😅
@laziK_Gacha
@laziK_Gacha 9 күн бұрын
Personally, I think genshin has the besteven though the feet go through the stairs they have movement that makes the characters look like they're actually walking up stairs and not slowing levitating or glitching
@himekaa
@himekaa 9 күн бұрын
My eyebrows was like 🤨 wuwa characters knee could break any moment and who climb the stairs with straight back while raising the upper leg higher, it’s like taking steps two at a time. The upper body is so stiff compare to genshin. In genshin, the characters leans forward and the hand also move naturally and it does look smooth tho
@TalesOfGod
@TalesOfGod 9 күн бұрын
The ZZZ animation is done at a different angle. It seems like their knees are sticking out but it is difficult to tell due to the camera.
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