it is a land where goldfish eat sharks and every critters movie after 3 was a masterpiece

@@conan2096 ok that last part is impossible even in Chaos

Custodes Report: Day Lemon, brother Corbec was slain by a creature resembling a mass of humans fused with various toilets the size of a warhound titan... We will inform his cohort he died fighting a daemon of Nurgle and leave it at that.

@@lordfrostwind3151 that was a shitty way to go

Up is blue and blue is spaghetti and spaghetti is a high pitched tone around D major

The one that gets a good fight that never ends?

​@@NetMoverSitan yes

Good point. If they were seers, they must indeed have seen something, Silly that I didn't think of that. Unironicly.

Or they failing would result in a better trajectory or they felt honour-bound to try or... Tzeentch manipulated their prognostications.

Well they ARE Eldar. Its likely the wanted to join the endless orgy pits. Too bad they are so tasty. What happens when Eldar souls are gobbled up? Do they then exist as a collective pile of dung whose dimensions are simply impossible to actually exist yet does?

@@doxasticdraco9990 Maybe all three?

In Age Of Sigmar Nurgle wanted to take the goddess ruler Of the realm of life as his waifu.

Nurgle went above and beyond with going for getting himself the literal mother of all Eldar booty.

Nurgal is a simp confirmed

​@@dylanmontgomery5450elder goddes is peach is probably the furthest you can get from mediocre

@trueblue23 Humpus Lunapar.

Horus: "what no I totally defeated them, so much better than dad." In Reality: "Ooooh Nurgle sempai please be gentle, I still can't walk right after Khorne."

Nurgle: "O you think pain will be you biggest problem, I thought up a new STD just for you"

I really want to see a meme image of Horus sitting timidly on a couch with the four Chaos Gods looming behind him (you know that meme…) 😏😂

Spoiler alert: that's not dribble coming out of Horus the whole Siege. SOH leave Argonis to deal with it while they go on with the whole 'fighting the war' thing.

Lol 😆

Isha (uses Eldar technology to shoot Nurgle) Nurgle: harder Isha (hits Isha) harder Isha: what Nurgle: what

​@@orrorsaness5942Slaneesh: yessss

​@@trajanfidelis1532 Tzeentch: oh, that surprising :o

That’s a very brief “screw you” considering one CG just waves a hand and turns the Orkz into green chickens, while the other grinds them up to make fungal cocain.

Thing is, even Dorn thought there weren't "Enough Custodes left to actually fight in the Siege." And that's from the siege expert Primarch who spent some of the most time around Custode, being the Praetorian. That's how brutal the War in the Webway was.

@@crypto1223 yes but these are boiz who are constantly krumpin big demon gitz, and perhaps with papa khorneflakes power, unless their lust for foightin rendered them incorruptible even while in the warp

Your reference to mostly peaceful protests taking place in the war in the webway is more apt than you might realize. Carl Benjamin has a great podcast going over how each of the chaos gods in 40k can be mapped directly on to the modern neo marxist post modern leftist movements of today, BLM is Khorne, Fat Pride is Nurgle, Pride and LGBTQAAIP2+ is Slaneesh and Tzeentch is Academic post modernism and CRT. The podcast is truly brilliant and definitely worth your time.

@@AlphariusandOmegon It was mildly interesting when he was saying it 10 years ago anyway. That framing of the modern social paradigm is old and tired at this point. The whole neo marxism take while possessing some degree of truth is overly simplistic and ultimately only still being pushed by people like Sargon because it's the only borderline socially acceptable way to approach these topics. Kinda funny though I guess. I would add the whole anti abelism crowd to the Nurgle camp. Nurgle loves his sick and crippled just as much as he loves his fatties.

I see you are a man of culture.

Stop that

“WHERE IN THE COCK-BUNGLING FUCK IS MY CHAIN-AXE?”

@@QixTheDS chainsword goes brrrrrrr

@@captainpuffinpuffinson4769 theres a reason khorne doesnt want it back :P

If Khorne had a tiny hole, Slaanesh would do everything in his/hers/its power to fill it with all sorts of things...

@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 that hole is connected to the eye of terror, and slannesh has tried to put its dick in it. What do you think the black crusades were?

Holy….yooo I didn’t know you watched arch?

Slaanesh being about excess feelings, acts and sensations means that while khorne gets power from act of bloodshed and murder the very act of people murdering another is an act of excess itself, so is the excess emotion of hate, survival instinct, satisfaction from a kill or pure relief of staying alive after a fight. It all feeds slaanesh too, each act of worhip khorne followers follow also inadvertently feds slaanesh herself.

Slannesh isn't really the God of pleasure they are the God of excess. Not pleasure

@@irontemplar6222 Why not both? After all Khorne is both rage and bloodshed, Tzeentch change and magic, Nurgle stagnation and death, and plenty more less well known aspects.

I see it as external and internal. Khorne is about the self, all about blood and attack. All sensations, pain, humor, comfort etc go away and you get that blood, you feel strong and enter a fugue state. Slannesh is all about what can you do, variation. Newer, different pleasure. More and more sensations, mar your beauty, grow new organs. Your slaves and enemies are obsessions, playthings. You still go insane, but due to spreading and drinking in so much stimuli. Slannesshi never do just one thing, and if they just concentrated within they'd probably die. Look at the Bile books; EC are always carving and mutating their cause, but when looking at their bodies they become despondent and bitter and part of their corruption is finding a way to keep feeling/distill drugs/survive the Blight. Each disgusts the other because of the sensations they manipulate; with Khorne you're robbed of simplicity, psychotic tranquility and the central idea of skulls is worthless because any tally or counting of something too long is meaningless. With Slannesh all the torture, playing and psychotic pleasure come to an end. No fun, no excess in what you want. No more feeding the pride and superiority and your enemy gives you literally nothing to gain or appreciate or surprise you. Imho

@@vadandrumist1670 You also forget that the gods are also people, and the first thing Slannesh did was piss off Khorn. There is also no reason for any of them to get along save for mutual self-interest. They are competitors otherwise.

Lol 😆! This However you see, Malal is the Chaos God of Memes so he will grow more powerful Though he will be busy fighting Gork and Mork (who themselves are the Ork and Krork Gods of Memes) due to the insane power boost so… the meme strategy will still work.

Doomguy would probably force his own way into the warp out of sheer rage.

Honestly tho, this video made Nurgle seem like quite a symphatetic fellow.

@@Niskirin honestly, despite being God of plagues, Papa Nurgle is probably the closest to a "good guy" in the setting. He really does like his followers, by and large, and they make it clear his daemons really like working with him too

@@aaronbasham6554 no

@@esukgfjyijlgul5335 have you read the Rogue Trader era stuff for Nurgle? They throw parties all the time and most units are described as over excited puppies

@@aaronbasham6554 nurgle loves his followers like a abusive boyfriend if you just sit down and let him do shit to you he will love you, the moment you don't he will hurt you and say "I'm sorry" remember nurgle is the god of bitterness and despair I'm really sick and tired of people saying nurgle is a "good guy"

Lol I can see it now, Malal, chaos god of Logistics 😝

They dont want to tho. Victory is boring as there is nobody left to fight.

@@malaficus Don’t think they’d ‘care’ to think that far ahead 😂

Makes sense. The ultimate weapon against Tzeench, *would* be boredom and predictability.

@@The_Keeper weaponized boredom... sounds like church sermons to me and I grew up going to church so should we trap him on a cardinal world and have him forced to listen every hour of every day to the priests preaching he might just kill himself to get out of it.

@@The_Keeper Hmmmm... this may be the case

Yes

Yeah and Moorcock had Lords of Order, something that Warhammer 40k seemingly lacks. They have the same symbols for Chaos and Order though, just that the latter is confined to the 'Troop' symbol.

@@iona2225 Well didn't arch not say there was other gods of order and stuff maybe in the fantasy version he meant. Or could the emperor be that order to Choas? Or perhaps order did exist however defeated. There are a lot of theories that could go around.

@@JamieZero7 Indeed, I theorized that Emps was this universe's incarnation of Moorcock'a Eternal Champion back in the late 2000s but I was also under the theory that the dude in the Golden Throne wasn't actually emps so lol I somewhat doubt it, this was bound in my initial conclusion to the setting that Emps effectively had to do parallel to Elric of Melnibone, and find ways to kill the gods of chaos. I haven't been making a lot theories since then haha but yes, you are correct :) be a weird molding of cultures if more and more WH fantasy elements were starting to emerge in 40k, but with how the Squats are getting portrayed at least initially I would absolutely love to see with what they do. Maybe they can make an excuse in that the gods of law are trying to get the hell away from AoS.

@@iona2225 You know I felt the same way every time I experience these champions. Malcador the side companion too.

@@iona2225 Man, I missed something really important. The Story Elric "While the gods laugh". Says something really important that must be true of 40k if you think about it. Chaos likes to do war. But it can't win. As winning means the destruction of them. If there is nobody around to give life to the chaos gods or let the gods feed off them. Then they will disappear.

Not sure if it could handle the warp itself from the inside but hive fleet kronus specifically fights chaos stuff. Not that it matters because Gork n Mork are far too killy

I remember some fluff saying there was a Hive Fleet splinter that was thrust into the warp, and emerged completely unharmed

Its depends on how long they are there. In a war of attrition they would lose due to having no biomass to replenish numbers. There is also hive fleet kronus, supposebly an anti chaos fleet which has done well. Mostly cause they didnt let themselves be bogged down and just blitzed through.

Have the Monolith transported within a gellar protected warp vessel, turn it on and then slowly turn off the gellar field or push the monolith out of the vessel and gellar field while it's running.

@@doomguy9049 would a Geller field work around a monolith?

@@Niggins96 only one way to find out! 🤖👾👹

HE BRINGS THE HAMS!!!

A TANGERINE

DATZ ROIGHT!

How would you kill excess or anger? If somehow a Chaos God was killed, the fundamental drivers of that warp parasite which still exist in the real world (e.g. people still want to be the best in their field) will feed the same warp power base that created the god in the first place. At best, the victorious chaos god might be able to assimilate the loser into himself and become a halfway point between the orginal two gods in question, convince all the other god's worshippers to worship him, and controls both domains. At worst, the god is dead for precisely one nanosecond and then bitch slaps the victorious one in return for 'killing' him.

The victor would have to destroy all the loser's daemons as the daemons are individualised pieces of their god. If they do not, the defeated god would come back in the form of his most powerful demon, who'd become the new god. If all the daemons of the defeated god were destroyed, the energies they're sustained of would become an abundant "food" source for other warp entities. Those entities who feed on this new "food" would grow more and more powerful in this aspect, until eventually the fastest growing/biggest/strongest would absorb/kill/eat the others like him in competition for more of that "food". Eventually he would become the new chaos god of the aspect left behind by the defeated chaos god, ultimately replacing him. I like to think something along these lines is happening to Malal/Malice, and that's why he's presently absent from the setting.

@@astrovarius543 that makes sense. Essentially the D&D version of when the Spider Queen rebirthed herself and then had her multiple personalities compete for supremacy. That was in the War of the Spider Queen and Lady Penitent series. Great reads.

they avoid it. It literally burns their ethereal flesh.

Big E is called the Anathema for a reason.

@@robertnelson9599 I'm no lore master, but the question that always arises in my mind is what chaos actually fears in the Emperor...if he is human, his emotions should therefore be part of the chaos gods. I'd think they'd see him as a kind of nuclear reactor for chaos, a great plaything like Horus. (Big E's actions did cause a fair amount of chaos in his attempt to create order) Unless he is something like the Zen concept of Mushin. A state of "No mind" where, rather than relying on emotion, one disconnects and just does as the material world dictates...Big E's not really written that way, but who knows his innermost beliefs or what he's thinking as he passes time sitting on the golden throne... In this way I can see why chaos would hate the Necron. Cold logical machines without emotion...and that brings up the issue, are the chaos gods on a lower tier than the C'tan? It would seem so as the C'tan are physical manifestations of the universe of which the warp is the reflection. Seems the C'tan could "Shatter the mirror" as it were and destroy chaos utterly, but that would entail destroying all sentient life in the universe. Which seems what at least the destroyers want to do. So would they be the pure C'tanic manifestation of the Necron race? The influence of the C'tan seeping into what's left of what the Necrontyr used to be?

@@42Mrgreenman Emperor knows what warp is and that chaos gods are no different than any other animal, and he's got the force of will to kill and undo them all should opportunity arise. Big E's very proximity to any of them robs them of their divnity.

I'm aware of that but even in a gellar field they still exert a effect on the warp nevermind the rather common occurence of when a gellar field fails.

Emperor's children.

He belongs to them. ... It's just that he doesn't belong outright to any single god. He is still influenced by each god

Using a scaled up pylon system to make a gellar field that empties out large chunks of the warp maybe? Necrons were able to create Dolmen gates and invade/utilize the webway, so it's not totally implausible that they might be able to do something similar with the warp.

This actually makes me think of something, what happens to a blank (I mean a proper sister of silence level pariah) if gellar fields fail during warp transit?

@@childofslaanesh1251 They still repulse warp entities. Nothing changes for them

@@banneduser5187 but unlike normal they repulse the very universe they are in now

@@childofslaanesh1251 well yes i suppose, but if the gellar fields fail in the warp itself they will still get butchered same as everyone else the only difference is they will kill/send to respawn alot more than anyone else before they go down. Being a blank just makes them semi-invisible to daemons and causes them pain when close. (in saturnine anyway)

This

No. Khorne has the monoply on violance. Just like execive disease is still nurgle. Slaanesh is the prince of depravity. That feeling of doing something forbidden. Something exciting. And like all chaos gods they make you feel good as you want more and more. Slaanesh is all about that desire for more. The lust, the greed, the need for more. Satifaction is the enemy of lust and thus the enemy of slaanesh.

God now I have to imagine nurgle being "that guy" type of player while tzeench trucks in with several proxies and OCs and khorne being the classic player who's a WW2 fan

@@pifilixxiv3192 Malal is the average Rome, Imperium, Ork, and Germania enjoyer.

@@pifilixxiv3192 as well as an America enjoyer.

@@orrorsaness5942 sorry but who's malal?

@@pifilixxiv3192 Malal (Known as Malice in Warhammer 40K) is the Chaos God of Chaos, Anarchy, and Contention. He also may be the chaos god of injustice and unjustice.

In Corum law was overtaken by chaos. There are different planes of existence.

I second this. The origins of Chaos in 40k from Moorcocks works could be a really interesting video from Arch

@@sneedclave7867 Yea I think Arch would do it justice. I mean the talk of plagiarism and reference is a story for another time. But I feel just focus on Choas and how it works. And I think this could back up how the emperor could ascend to god. As it's described that thought creates gods. But this person was tricked in Corum. But it may be a theme in the other stories I've only heard Corum. And was like man this is 40k. This is clearly where they got the entire idea. I mean I'm not sure how much of Choas has been retconned either Arch is more familiar. He is one of the few I think that could do a great video on it at least.

@@sneedclave7867 Arch also said in a livestream there was other gods of order. Or something along them lines when sargon and him were talking about 40k lore. Other gods. But they might be in warhammer fantasy. So not sure. He's actually the only youtuber I know that has talked about other gods existence.

Also just never challenge that last one with any card game we're not sure but he might be a psyker but like we said we're not 100% certain

"And remember never challenge tzeentch to Paradox billiards hyper dimension chess strip poker .. Unless you're a silvery doorstep." Or a little girl...

If you haven't seen the Arch Tuska video try and find time to do so mate it's brilliant