War Thunder Air Guides Part 7 - Using And Defeating Radar Missiles (FOX-3 & FOX-1)
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Radar guide: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mNlyp6WYzafPqZc.html
Thanks a bunch to:
Zachrix (DCS) : kzfaq.info/love/hJex0b6a6uev5KRsKF3XCw
Piiot: www.youtube.com/@piiot
Prae: www.youtube.com/@-foxfire
Jaek: www.youtube.com/@jaek_898
0:00 Intro
1:02 How to use FOX-3 effectively
3:00 Pulse Radar Recap
4:17 Pulse doppler radar recap
6:00 Multipathing
6:56 Chaffing
8:30 Cold, Hot and Notching
10:16 Gimbal Limit
10:30 Cranking
12:00 cranking simplified
12:50 F Pole tactics
14:30 NEZ and MAR
16:30 Altitude
20:14 Examples (links in the description for the full videos on these)
F-15 BVR introduction guide: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oZeYntaD0tGqYaM.html
SU-27SM: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irhkkrWIx6i4YKs.html
Mirage 2000F-5: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Y6ujmaZ6ydmsips.html
F-4F ICE: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l8-CZs19sJ-UZJ8.html
Outro: A.N.O. - Vanish
Discord: discord.gg/vM462dV8gj
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@Hazey652 Ай бұрын
Truly the Picasso of our time 🎨🖌
@Asspiss100 Ай бұрын
"The f15 is fast but not quite as large as your mother"
@SotGravarg Ай бұрын
Nah Hans Zimmer is the picasso of our time, some say he's the mozart of our time but I say he's both.
@ItzCPU_ Ай бұрын
Who needs the mona Lisa when you can have this absolute gem of a drawing
@ziepex7009 Ай бұрын
top 5 comment right here
@ItzCPU_ Ай бұрын
@@ziepex7009 thanks
@mrincogno7978 Ай бұрын
I think you have taught me everything I know in this game. From energy fighting and defensive flying to radar usage. Cheers Defyn, your guides are always a massive help
@Kiirxas Ай бұрын
This guide is suprisingly easy to understand for such a complex topic. Massive kudos
@DEFYN Ай бұрын
that was the aim, glad to hear it :)
@CyberRecon Ай бұрын
@@DEFYN This is the best guide i have ever seen, you show how to do it and show example's and keep hammering it in with clips of effectively doing it.👏👏👏
@frank-7861 Ай бұрын
@@DEFYNhey sorry, unrelated, what is the bracket underneath the mar at 2:29 ? Thank you And if you could make a short video on the new in cockpit mfd (?) radar screens on what each number means and each symbol. Thank you
@v0idwalker489 28 күн бұрын
@@frank-7861the bracket is the mar, it has a lower range because if you’re close enough there are many things that the enemy could do to evade.
@Basicallybaltic Ай бұрын
I left the boring museum I was in (the Louvre) because this absolute masterclass beats every exhibition there by an art school rejection and a half.
@EdgeR2 Ай бұрын
Thank you Defyn, I can now larp properly
@ItzCPU_ Ай бұрын
Same
@Beulena. Ай бұрын
Don't play WT anymore but gonna watch for the tutorial algorithm.
@robertgaudet7407 24 күн бұрын
Based
@stevato0449 Ай бұрын
3:53 Me when I see SU-57 in my radar
@DEFYN Ай бұрын
You win the comment section
@Micro-Lander Ай бұрын
Shitty ah NATO jokes, bruh new jokes when they gonna drop SU57 is old
@stevato0449 Ай бұрын
@@Micro-Lander I'd make SU 75 jokes but like either of the Sukhois they're still in the hangar
@televisio8652 Ай бұрын
@@stevato0449 we'd make Su-75 jokes but the blueprints have not even left Ivan's babushka's basement. And when it does it will be a paper tiger
@garroncassidy385 27 күн бұрын
@@televisio8652 This just sounds a bit upset.
@GeneralLee2000 Ай бұрын
Can bro jam MY WEZ? 👀
@DEFYN Ай бұрын
I AM WAZZING THE JEM
@blacksky121_ Ай бұрын
HES PULLING OUT HIS WEZ
@TRPilot06YT Ай бұрын
She is jamming my WEZ till i Fox
@kingghidorah8106 Ай бұрын
jam deez nuts
@BenjiBoi696 Ай бұрын
I jam my wez every night
@Beastactive66 Ай бұрын
no matter how good missiles get missiles don't go through mountains.
@Panocek Ай бұрын
17:42 - targets that have clear sky as background gives Pulse Doppler no ground returns as reference point to filter out, thus any decent radar set becomes unnotchable unless chaff is involved.
@opar6585 Ай бұрын
That last part when defyn mentioned that you have other ordnances really relates to me. I just got AIM120 some minutes ago with F15C and while i grinded it most of my kills were with aim9m. Lots of people got so focused and stressed facing fox 3s that they forgot that ir missiles still exist, they just didnt flare. Easy splash.
@garrettpersyn3665 17 күн бұрын
Happened to me the other day in my F-14B, got uptiered to 13.0 and had a missile fired at me head on, was confident it was an AIM-120 only to realize too late that it was an AIM-9M and I hadn't bothered turning my afterburner off when I turned around
@sdghtjsdcgs 19 күн бұрын
The last point about IR missiles and guns is super relevant. I've gotten a ton of IR and gun kills lately. Its like people are so focused on Fox 3's the rest of their brains stopped working.
@venatrix3431 17 күн бұрын
Same with my Magic 2s, though rarely gun kills because people will keep distance (and expose their afterburner in the process)
@cheemsburmger8588 Сағат бұрын
I feel the opposite I’ve been launching 9ms in scenarios where I would always get kills before fox3s came out and now I just die to the fox 3 every time and my missile gets flared. Given I probably shouldn’t be using ir missiles in headons
@elitely6748 Ай бұрын
Hell yeah, great to get a dedicated in-depth tutorial from our man Defyn! I've been notching Fox-3's slightly better but thanks so much we appreciate it!
@Duality.12 Ай бұрын
this is why I love you you make things simple and put visual examples in the video for speds like me
@Asspiss100 Ай бұрын
8:05 ive found that when notching and dropping 2-3 pops of chaff at a time in random intervals, the missile is slightly turning into the chaff briefly before going back to lead pursuit on my plane- effectively making it travel a greater distance while also turning more rlcreating drag and slowing it down. Makes it a lot easier to outrun/ outturn it
@hunterparke9059 26 күн бұрын
A wonderfully educational video with defined terms within. This video does not exclude a single audience and I applaud you for that. Thank you for putting this out there:)
@Amexel Ай бұрын
Very helpful video, I knew some of this already but the strategies with altitude and cranking are really good to learn! Got an Ace in the Gripen A yesterday so IR-missiles are definetly still useful lol
@hindel6141 Ай бұрын
Very informative Mr. Defyn. Thank you for sharing.
@antonmancia2096 Ай бұрын
Great video that compiles really well all the knowledge one needs to fight in the new META. A great watch
@ArcaneActual Ай бұрын
For real, great video! Hard to cover so much information that comes with the bvr play but you nailed it and kept it entertaining.
@Adrella_Highwing Ай бұрын
Really appreciate the level of detail and corrolating it all into one video, thanks man! Must have been a lot of work!
@GOLDEN_TOMCAT Ай бұрын
Man this Video is such a Masterpiece thank you so much Defyn ♥
@nemexx3357 Ай бұрын
Thank you for explaining this! Massiv help.
@varesin2978 Ай бұрын
Defyn is a masterfull virtuoso when it comes to painting. That SU-27 at 8:45< is made in such a way that blinking makes it wobbly. So much talent required to create such a powerful illusion. Truly impeccable piece of art.
@Hagop64 Ай бұрын
I feel like I was already almost doing everything right but not having great success with it. Thanks for clarifying the key bits I was missing!
@Gerg_de Ай бұрын
I already knew most of this but i didnt know exactly how the DL display and PD worked so this video was very informative
@braedynhoward3644 Ай бұрын
also, for cranking, losing some altitude while turning to the gimbal limit also forces the missile to turn more as it decreases in altitude and as it enters thicker air, while you retain your speed in a turn as you fly down. this makes the missile turn down, in addition to turning left or right, while flying into thick air. And if you then use the gimbal limit to turn in the other direction, it bleeds more speed before finally turning cold (but that's not recommended unless you have some distance to maneuver before the missile reaches you, otherwise, crank and go cold).
@oofdotcom420 Ай бұрын
perfect timing Defyn, i just got the RB99's on the "new" grippy
@Yablokus Ай бұрын
Your videos really helped me to become better at dogfights. Thank you!
@brianebanks1769 24 күн бұрын
Very well done video. You explained conplex concepts well using similes and analogy. You may not get the most views with these videos but they are very helpful. Ty defyn
@MarkKirkwood-ox4zv 28 күн бұрын
Seriously started using your videos on how to actually notch, crank and play these jets at top tier. Genuinely top notch content as well as patter.
@Tommy-qc4rj Күн бұрын
Trying to learn how to fly the Squadron Sea Harrier, and keep dying to missiles repeatedly at altitude, and at low-level flight it's a deathtrap too. If I turnfight, I'm dead from BnZ. If I BnZ, I die to Radar Missiles. Trying to learn how to fly it effectively given the changes since your last video, hell, it's been moved up 2 BR notches n all. I try, and thanks for keeping up the guides.
@gggnikcalbiz Ай бұрын
study for 30 mins ❌ watch how to deal with fox-3 missiles ✅
@roebuckpayne Ай бұрын
This video is excellent. Well done as always Def. o7
@stevato0449 Ай бұрын
Love cranking to your videos keep it up 👍👍
@GonKreicy Ай бұрын
DFYN: See the radar as a fleshlight Me: Wait what? Oh right, accent
@KledAteTacos Ай бұрын
Good guide, thanks defyn
@H34Rt54 Ай бұрын
Dude thank you so much for fox-3 missile guide,
@Tuhrue Ай бұрын
Gonna watch this knowing full well Im still gonna get smacked out of the air by these new wall hacking missiles even after using terrain masking to defeat them (literaly happened)
@HinataNarutoSasuke Ай бұрын
Thanks, needed this
@Squizziles Ай бұрын
DEFYN Making us all more qualified pilots than actual Mig pilots and the few modern phantom pilot’s 😂😂
@roebuckpayne Ай бұрын
This is helping me learn to fly my 5F. I’m no good with the MICA’s.
@The_Gabinator Ай бұрын
Thanks for the great tutorials as always.
@MrVazRaptor Ай бұрын
nice job defyn
@amari2509 Ай бұрын
So much fun.. thank you
@catto7274 Ай бұрын
my brain expanded by a significant amount after this video, thank you neurosurgeon Dr. Defyn
@user-dv1hm5rq7q Ай бұрын
Gave Videos! Bedankt
@xRazProductions Ай бұрын
Excellent content. Really.
@tkadi21 28 күн бұрын
congrats for the effort !
@willthomas9635 Ай бұрын
this was very well thought out and presented. Well done. Should help lots of noobs out there
@waskus Ай бұрын
Great video
@progenrh4754 Ай бұрын
Good shit bro thanks alot
@mochabear88 Ай бұрын
ty
@usmcpound Ай бұрын
This seems so much easier in RB the sim. Thanks for the useful information.
@HoorGuvLabs Ай бұрын
I just gooned all over my table seeing a new defyn video
@aescobar32 29 күн бұрын
amazing video and great info. Gracias!
@spaghettinoodles7913 Ай бұрын
You're beautiful defy wefy boo bear. Your content is great
@hankstorm3135 21 күн бұрын
nicely made thx
@Bastyxx227 Ай бұрын
When your understanding of a topic is so great, that you can explain it like we are 5 yo Excellent video Defyn, as always the Picasso of our time
@samuelealessi234 Ай бұрын
You are the reason i didn't gave up on Air RB
@kgetman88 Ай бұрын
Had to pause my goon sesh to watch and study
@j-figpack5153 Ай бұрын
Needed those few seconds 😩😤😤
@navyeod_24 25 күн бұрын
There goes KZfaq unsubbing me from people randomly again. Love these videos, helps a lot for surviving in top tier!
@KekForce1 Ай бұрын
Bro really broke the 4th wall at the end with putting us to sleep just as I was dozing off 😳
@LokirofRoriksted Ай бұрын
thanks for the guide. I was thinking about getting a top tier premium with the summer sale, tried it out and couldnt fire missiles or anything
@LugborG 11 күн бұрын
So THAT'S how the missile knows where it is.
@elbalazo5135 Ай бұрын
This comes in handy for when I pass the French br 11.3 and get to the mirage 2000.
@nicolasalexander408 Ай бұрын
I was just watching missile videos and eh, here we are......how not to die so much....awesome.....
@nikkidalyeeveetrainer3666 Ай бұрын
best line of the video dont forget you have a gun so many ppl have forgot they have a gun now
@justinmarcogarcia6855 Ай бұрын
Imagine applying all of this then your team proceeds to get wiped out, FUN
@kingghidorah8106 Ай бұрын
as the soviet mains said when the r27er got you in terminal guidance: Just nutch hardur bro))
@bensundermann6553 Ай бұрын
I minute ago DEFYN guide = :)
@Wotplaya4 Ай бұрын
I want to note, for 9:05, that yes most PD radars will usually not have a problem with zero speed closure rates, not all radars can lock targets at zero closure speed (in all conditions). The F-14s radar most notibly suffers from zero speed clutter. How in the world you'd ask, that's because of sidelobe returns. When flying low to the ground, the ground right underneath you has a strong enough return (from your radar sidelobes) to clutter the 0 m/s speed region. The ground underneath you is essentially always moving with you at the same rate. Most modern radars do not have this clutter at all, it's just turned off in their code (I guess they filter these out using radar altitude data realistically speaking). In the case of the F-14, it's about a +/- 60 m/s region from zero speed you can't lock when cluttered, going to higher altitudes of course helps reducing the clutter. F-4J/S (and the Speys) suffer from the same issue, as well as radarsets with the MTI mode, maybe some other ones as well.
@Mikestriken Ай бұрын
Yeah that part confused me, because I knew that closure rate was filtered in the F-14 from experience.
@LV3BRR Ай бұрын
I thought i knew a decent amount about fox 3s and defending, guess i didint
@scenario7f12 Ай бұрын
Would still be stuck at props if Defyn wasnt around, appreciate every bit of help you give (ps I reckon your the next Van Gogh as well :))
@user-md6jm3kv6d Ай бұрын
Thx
@amari2509 Ай бұрын
Do ppl actually prefer this meta over the ir furball one?
@srgabrielfb Ай бұрын
This one for sure, but i think Gaijin should make another game mode with furballs and everybody gets happy *suffering*
@aerocraft3377 Ай бұрын
@@srgabrielfb They did, I think it´s called arcade or something
@srgabrielfb Ай бұрын
@@aerocraft3377 Nah it doesn't Work for top tier, They need the last realistic mode instead of the current arcade.
@pyxlated_void4719 Ай бұрын
13:40 "the sigma missile" got me
@poly18 Ай бұрын
Hey Defyn, are you planning to do a video on the J-8F with the new missiles? Just want to know if it’s any good or not😊
@pyencdocde5716 Ай бұрын
I like this video
@_VORT3X_. Ай бұрын
Being a DCS player is beneficial 👌👍
@WelsyCZ Ай бұрын
Hey thank you for this guide, even though I was familiar with radar (or so I thought) and have like 1500 games at 10.3+, this was real easy to understand and I loved watching it. Real useful.
@pandoranbias1622 Ай бұрын
Welcome to the Navy Fighter Weapons School. Your instructor for today will be Lieutenant Colonel "Cutaway" Defyn.
@babch0 Ай бұрын
yay, from now on I can finally leave 8.3 and go play toptier again (it will be painful quckly lol)
@BazzRahulGaming 29 күн бұрын
Mmm... Now thats a good stuff. 👌
@iliaskzls1232 Ай бұрын
That's all good and stuff, but can you make a video explaining how to use the radar and missiles?
@WestwindKestrel Ай бұрын
Damn i'm early. 2 things that I think could be added is 1. Checking if canopy rolling can still be used to dodge and 2. a rough "matchup" spreadsheet where you fire two different radar missiles from equal starting positions and see which one reaches first (e.g. 530D vs. R-24R etc.). Also, try playing the Netz now lol.
@salltyboi Ай бұрын
Mwuah Defyn❤
@Evrimomono Ай бұрын
Larped my heart
@nicolasalexander408 Ай бұрын
Hi DEFYN, is there a video about how you got to learn so much about planes et al in war thunder? You have such a comprehensive knowledge as far as I can tell and are able to explain things in real time...just wondering? I got myself a F5-C, I've never had many jets and I do really like props tbh, but they are pretty cool though all the missiles stuff is not particularly relaxing.....
@MrHelllove Ай бұрын
best poilt
@user-if4zv5nj5m Ай бұрын
Have you found any consistency in chaffing missiles while going cold? From my experience, it's a hit or miss, they either go for the first chaff pop or ignore all of them. I assume it depends on weather you are silhouetted against ground or the sky, or performing an aim9m-style evasion
@robertgaudet7407 24 күн бұрын
I bet he's flying his F-16C higher than he used to. 26:06.
@BlackbirdDrozd Ай бұрын
Anyone else noticed after reduction of the multipath that the WT trees are like 120 meters tall? I was flying a mirage today and was using the cockpit radar altimeter that displays exact height from the ground and when I finally reached 60 meters (when the ground protection of multipath starts), I was like in the middle of the height of average tree in the map ...... 120m trees (like 400 feet) is probably too much for a tree :D
@Bf109F-4lover Ай бұрын
According to your flying skills and knowledge, I'm starting to think that you're Maverick's brother..
@Frogg-YT Ай бұрын
oh dam, i've been using fox-3s COMPLETELY wrong this entire time (luckily i never use them)
@antoinespadone7834 Ай бұрын
Could you make a video on any aircraft at 12.3-12.7 without any fox 3 like the M4K wich impossible to play in the current metha
@adrianb8693 Ай бұрын
I have a question, if we all like dogfighting in top tier planes, wouldnt It be a good idea to make another gamemode like ARB (df) (doghfight) so we can have idk maybe higher multipath or whatever like duels? so we can play again dogfighter planes like the f16 A
@GoldRunner95 Ай бұрын
I’m not gonna get to top tier before I die but I’ll watch this just in case I can play it in my afterlife
@chish7690 Ай бұрын
you might need to review the jas39a gripen at 12.7 with aim7e2s and bol chaff that 120s cant track
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