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11 ай бұрынIf this carries on, WAR THUNDER will be no more! | Today we are going to take a look back at some of the biggest issues that have plagued the game (and no, this video is not sponsored by them!)
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@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
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@Irobert1115HD 11 ай бұрын
honestly a list of all the songs used in this video would be nice to have. i would like to know the name of the song that plays between 1:22 and 1:30.
@paulofrota3958 11 ай бұрын
A huge TANK you...?
@Protoraptor69 11 ай бұрын
How you bin ol' friend? Love your content but You-Tube never recommends me any.
@Protoraptor69 11 ай бұрын
@@paulofrota3958 Nice one dude. Have a great week. From me. For FREE!
@darugdawg2453 11 ай бұрын
im going to be fuking honest here. the root problem of this is because the devs are doing a propaganda for russia. they are promoting russian tanks and planes as very good compared to the tank it faces. people woudnt leak shit if gaijin balance the fuking game and say its not realistic. fuking coksuker
@MSinistrari 11 ай бұрын
With all I've heard about the War Thunder forums, I'm convinced if we ever wanted true unquestionable proof of UFOs/Aliens it would be for the devs to put one in game and someone would want to prove them inaccurate.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
And here are the blueprints to the UFO
@toopink4death492 11 ай бұрын
Jokes on you that was an april fools event years ago.
@blindsniper35 11 ай бұрын
@@toopink4death492oh so we have conclusive proof governments have no evidence of aliens, Cool
@LEWTSPEC 11 ай бұрын
@toopink4death492 but that game mode was fun and didn't have a grind that takes 9 years
@toopink4death492 10 ай бұрын
@@LEWTSPEC That's the greatest part about it.
@angrytheclown801 11 ай бұрын
As a collector of military handbooks (strictly declassified and released to the public by the military itself), I find this sad but hillarious at the same time.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Indeed
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 10 ай бұрын
@@slopesgameroom we need T14 tank docs to make lazerpig silent
@perkaperkins01 10 ай бұрын
@@carkawalakhatulistiwathe videos of that guy are funny but man he really escalated that debate about the T14 armata into a shitty drama
@user-zw2zh6vg6k 4 ай бұрын
@@carkawalakhatulistiwaor probably rather to prove him right 😂
@KyogresHideout_Vegito2121 11 ай бұрын
I kinda feel bad for the devs tbh. They keep asking their community to stop because they don't want to be involved in this kinda stuff for obvious reasons but it just keeps happening.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
6 times this year so far
@del7896 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't be surprised if they love the popularity, though. Gaijin are Russian (nominally Hungarian nowadays) and I believe they have been involved in some scandals involving their country of origin, so it's not impossible to believe that any document leaks would find their way to relevant organisations. Of course, once it goes on the internet, it doesn't matter who owns the forum, and if Russian equipment info leaks, that's not great for them either.
@CountScarlioni 11 ай бұрын
@@del7896 If they're in Hungary now then they're lucky. Had they still been in Russia, there'd be plenty of 8th storey windows just waiting for War Thunder's management to accidentally fall through if Russian military leaks appeared on their forums.
@helvete983 11 ай бұрын
I hope the devs are releasing all the information they have about the idiots leaking this information to the relevant The fact these people are so pathetic they are willing to risk real lives to win a frigging argument over the internet is sad.
@shadowconquer-yv5yd 11 ай бұрын
Don't feel bad to the snail (Gaijin)!! They refuse to fix their junky volumetric that results to russian bias. It took a campaign of review bombing just to fix or force them to fix the economy. Overall, it actually increased their player base with me being a victim.
@Jofe000 11 ай бұрын
In a certain way this is hilarious, imagine wanting to win an internet argument so hard that commit a crime. And so I can't avoid to laugh at that meme of "0 days since classified information has been leaked on the War Thunder forums. On the company side, I find it hard for them to do anything else besides saying how much they don't approve and don't use this and removing any thread with classified information.
@Ranmus 11 ай бұрын
It's like that one moron who put state secrets on his discord just to prove that he could and win an argument...
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
It's such a bizarre situation tbh
@SergioLeonardoCornejo 11 ай бұрын
Yes. It's not their fault. The problem is the guys in the know are so self absorbed they ended up doing that because they want to always be right.
@Keirnoth 11 ай бұрын
This is an average day on /b/ on 4chan.
@Sniperbear13 11 ай бұрын
its a case of people wanting to be objectively right. no one wants to be wrong, and those with less brain cells tend to want to win a argument at any cost. so much so they don't think about the consequences of their actions.
@tipulsar85 11 ай бұрын
When you hear this type of story for either War Thunder or World of Tanks Multiple times, it starts becoming "Why the bloody hell are they leaking classified tech details?"
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
It's so bizaree
@KasumiRINA 11 ай бұрын
Minecraft Discord was the original source for Teixeira leaks... and unlike the 6 bucks manual recently leaked on WT that was not classified and just, at worst, a pirated book shared for free, the leaks on Ukrainian air defense ended up killing civilians. I seen debris and corpses moved away from the house across my window a week into May, my district got bombed because Jack Teixeira leaked a classified briefing that shown us running out of anti air defenses by May 2023 and where EVERY big system is located. Then McDonalds and University hit in the same city... That killed people. Pointing to weak points in air defense murders civilians. Always.
@faasnuhind8578 10 ай бұрын
It's to argue with the devs and other players about the actual specs, ie the T-34 being so good in game, despite public documents showing it wasn't great, it's specs were released, yet Gaijin refuses to fix it. And that they supposedly have classified documents saying how good it was in WWII. They also just want the clout of they were right.
@staticaleel5068 10 ай бұрын
To be fair, getting mad at the T-34 being too good in game is something to be annoyed about, but When the country the company works out of makes it literally illegal to “discredit the competence of the armed forces” including that of the WW2 red army, I can’t be too mad at them for having a noticable Russian bias in places.
@guron246 10 ай бұрын
In Ukraine we call this with the term: Informational Psychological Operation.
@blueshark7385 10 ай бұрын
Most of the classified documents leaks for aircraft so far this year (F-15E Strike Eagle, Su-57, Typhoon DA7, and F-117 Nighthawk) were about aircraft that are not even in the game. After this video was uploaded there have been two more forum posts showing restricted documents, one for the F-117 Nighthawk on September 12th, and one for the AH-64 Apache on September 15th. It's highly likely that there will be more this year.
@777SilverPhoenix777 10 ай бұрын
might be time to just shut the damn forums down
@kunaukedi4850 10 ай бұрын
@@777SilverPhoenix777 The leaked documents that were leaked this year arent even classified documents lol. theyre declassified but restricted from export out of NATO. It doesnt help that gaijin is a russian company tho. The documents leaked recently arent as detailed as the challenger 2 leak and type 99
@gildedphoenix 10 ай бұрын
Also DA7 is now even in production yet, it's still a fuckin prototype. A FUCKING PROTOTYPE
@arandomcommenter0135 7 ай бұрын
Laughs in M2A2
@mattwo7 11 ай бұрын
It makes more sense that he'd be an engineer because he'd have more reason to be so angry that he'd leak classified documents and he probably kept it a secret to hide the obvious bias as a commander would have less of a reason to care on such a level.
@thunderhammerx2966 11 ай бұрын
"common weak point on every tank" = " totally secret"
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Aparently a lot better these days. A found an official army video talking about but not saying how it works as that's "top secret" lol
@Rexhunterj 10 ай бұрын
The spot may be common but every nation builds their tanks in a different shape and configuration, some address the mantlet weakness with new armour composites and sheets for example, it might still be a weak point but you'd need to know what angle, how high and how far you can hit said spot for any effect.
@Technology-Repair-Druid 11 ай бұрын
Putting many peoples' lives at risk to win an argument, on the internet no less, is peak pettiness and hubris. Also, the devs have my sympathy, as it sounds like a nightmare trying to keep this all under control. Having government agencies and national security breathing down your neck is not something I envy in the slightest.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
It's gotta be tough
@staticaleel5068 10 ай бұрын
Honestly, this is the main reason why I wish war thunder never tried modern vehicles. Cold War sure why not, but current vehicles in service still??? Recipe for disaster, and even then, likely untouchable to most players given the sheer grind needed to reach that tier in game.
@zedriver7678 10 ай бұрын
Is finni tho
@raidenpz 9 ай бұрын
If you're so concerned go protest against your country's military if they're currently sending people to kill and be killed for nothing.
@kb1qzh 11 ай бұрын
And I was expecting a game dev cash grab...
@farcry223 11 ай бұрын
Honestly same.
@TinchoX 11 ай бұрын
And to think I wasted hundreds of hours in this game to end up bitter as it went full cash-grab mode on me... 😑
@piscessoedroen 11 ай бұрын
thankfully they seem to finally wanna try a more customer friendly strategy. whether out of shame, goodwill, or simply because they're bored and have squeezed enough porjected money from cashgrab method we won't know
@damio6865 11 ай бұрын
@@TinchoXhow so
@colinwalker6804 10 ай бұрын
@@damio6865until a LITERAL PLAYER REVOLT AND MONTHS LONG REVIEW BOMBING CAMPAIGN, the game was becoming so large and grindy where even average play performance was often punished with little research progress and a punishing economy. Basically they balanced the game progression system and economy on the top 10% of players and if you weren’t then you either had to pay up or spend months-years grinding, by which time the previous best vehicles were already long outdated in the meta. I too was disillusioned for a while and while I’ve tepidly returned, I can no longer bring myself to grind, only doing so to be with friends who are still grinding and appreciating the massive quality of life and economy changes that recently happened. Things are better now, and the developer roadmap seems to imply things will continue to get better for a bit, but for a while it felt less like a game and more like a job.
@davidanttila9305 11 ай бұрын
If anyone is wondering why War Thunder and other games won't use classified Documents or even risk using Documents claiming to de declassified without checking first. Is if the Documents is real and Classified and they use them in their game it pits the game developers at risk of beig persecuted for treason or the game getting put in the cross hairs of a Government. Im honestly surprised War Thunder with this problem even allows images or links to be posted on their official forum.
@KasumiRINA 11 ай бұрын
Why the F would a russian dev arrest someone who leaks western docs TO RUSSIA for treason? They might reward them, not punish. US might. Jack Teixeira was arrested. OVER A YEAR after he started stealing American secrets. Trump is still free tho he at least only betrayed USA, and not leaked Ukrainian air defense map.
@lendrigangames 10 ай бұрын
The worst thing Gaijin could do would be to give the vehicles' real-life enemies the chance to drive around a 100% accurate version.
@aceofswords1725 10 ай бұрын
Or the best... depending how you look at it. ARMA series was and is used by militaries for infantry training...
@johnnytrigger300 11 ай бұрын
The challenger mantlet was a declassified piece of information, he didnt doctor it, but the tank was still classified
@keithmichael112 11 ай бұрын
could you imagine being a guy in a trench seeing the first tank coming up over the top towards you? that was a bad day
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Yeah for sure. All quiet on the western front recreates this scene.... it's horrific
@blunderingfool 11 ай бұрын
The germans probably knew we had tanks... hot water vessels. The term "tank" was a codeword for the Mk1 Landship. :P
@keithmichael112 11 ай бұрын
@@blunderingfool that's cool, I've never heard that one. thanks
@SmokieMcShatter 11 ай бұрын
They owe me an F4 phantom for the US I bought it and never received it, they said wasn't their fault and I had to trouble shoot with third party😂😂 I'm still pissed nvr got to jet around
@krypton1260 11 ай бұрын
Leaking classified documents is the least of the problems with War Thunder. Predatory monetization, pay to win mechanics, loot boxes, poor game and map design, the in-game messaging systems run on IRC... The game is almost a scam.
@anonimosu7425 11 ай бұрын
less scammy than world of tanks
@subjectc7505 10 ай бұрын
Leaking documents are more of a concern than people's bad financial choices. People can take these documents, sell them on the Black market or use them for their own benefit. Not like Russia needs them, because they're already capable of destroying Western tanks, but someone like North Korea would love a juicy Challenger or F-22 document.
@TJTheEmperor 11 ай бұрын
Hearing The Offspring's The Kids Aren't Alright open the video wasn't a choice I was expecting, but as a longtime fan of the band, I definitely appreciated its inclusion. Kick ass work as always Slope!
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Cheers bud. Love a bit of offspring :D
@wingleburt3146 11 ай бұрын
I always think it sounds like omd electricity
@DiabolikalRA 10 ай бұрын
Made me bust out Americana again 🤘
@mattwo7 11 ай бұрын
The only tank I'm personally even remotely familiar with is the M4 Sherman, which I instantly recognized as what Howard Stark modified into his HYDRA Stomper armor in the MCU adaptation of Marvel What If?
@777SilverPhoenix777 10 ай бұрын
Really the game shouldn't have currently used tanks period. these issues wouldn't exist of everything was older tech like the Sherman.
@DewthWish 10 ай бұрын
@@777SilverPhoenix777 shut up
@akkristor 11 ай бұрын
Damnit, i came here to learn about the 35th time classified secrets were leaked due to an online game, not be smacked in the face by 90s nostalgia with The Kids Aren't Alright.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
My bad :P
@thegrayseed2792 10 ай бұрын
The thing is that providing documents related to these vehicles on these change request was actually encouraged by Gaijin albeit it was at the time when War Thunder were still stuck in WW2 and Post-War era where pretty much everything about vehicles about those era are just declassified so they are safe to be shared around. The problem rises when War Thunder starts to get more and more modern vehicles, we get Gen 2 IR sight, Laser Rangefinder, SACLOS ATGMs, BVR AAMs, etc. and set of new classification like IFVs and MBTs abandoning WW2 armored vehicle classification (though the stat card still calls them Light Tank and Heavy tank). Some people still follows Gaijin encouragement to post documents on them unaware to the fact that they are literally commiting high treason. With this, Gaijin are free to put Stalinium/Putinium on every Soviet/Russian vehicles which are still in service.
@otaking3582 11 ай бұрын
This reminds me a lot of the Unidan situation, where a guy on Reddit goes off the rails trying to school people about his otaku-like obsession (in Unidan's case, birds) and resulting in their life being ruined (although Unidan's biggest crime was using sock-puppet accounts to boost his Reddit karma, not sharing military secrets on the internet).
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's kind of a big no no
@Sorinoir 11 ай бұрын
The dude who posted classified Chinese documents got executed
@2wdr5 9 ай бұрын
Receipt?
@showcase0525 11 ай бұрын
You would think that a Tank engineer has more standing than a tank commander on the engineering of a tank. But thats just a guess.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Yeah, why would you ever lie about that
@gurumagoo 10 ай бұрын
Predictably, the Russian game developers have incorporated an enormous amount of bias for the Russian tech trees into the game. This was proven a few years ago by examination of the games hard code. Russian vehicles have all kinds of hidden modifiers to make them more competitive, like anti-spalling modifiers, angle penetration modifiers, and all kinds of kidden tweaks that make them both more survivable and more deadly. The games volumetric damage system seems custom made to favor Russian vehicles. In the air, their aircraft climb faster, turn tighter, and lose energy slower than they did historically. I've played the game since 2014, and it's always been like that. Currently, Russian vehicles completely dominate top-tier gameplay. This has become even more egregious since the war in Ukraine began. As always, politics and Russians, are completely inseparable.
@silmarian 11 ай бұрын
I used to play a lot of War Thunder, and a lot of the players are foamer rivet counters who get so obsessed about the game that they stop having fun but can’t stop playing. It leads to a lot of really weird situations and cognitive dissonance. (Also their not-so-micro transaction strategy is really good at triggering the sunk cost fallacy, it’s really devious.)
@Choralone422 11 ай бұрын
Going back to the BBS and early internet Usenet days people have an extremely long history of posting information that they shouldn't in order to win online arguments. It's one big reason why in my own IT career I kept most online forums and the like at arms length while I was doing work for the US military & Fortune 100 companies in the 2000s and 2010s. Even now I only participate in online game forums for games are not set in the real world in any meaningful way.
@chrisovak 11 ай бұрын
Not sure if the video was uploaded as 720 as the max or KZfaq just hasn't made the 1080 version available yet. Gonna wait and see if 1080 is available a lil later before watching the full video because apparently I'm a resolution snob now 😅
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
That's weird... it should be 1080 hmmmm thanks for pointing this out I will keep an eye on it too
@ulliulli 11 ай бұрын
Technically, the last bit with Anton claiming, that they will never use these infos IS INCORRECT. Someone posted classified informations about the Type DTC10-125 shell. Which was of course deleted. but a few weeks later this sabot round was found in the most modern chinese tank in War Thunder.
@MrSedsone 11 ай бұрын
The shell itself was already on the game's test/development server, by the time it got leaked. The apparent reason for the leak, was to show that the game has wrong stats for it.
@princessolmeca2933 11 ай бұрын
Oh, my freaking Lord, this is absurdly hilarious in the most tragic way possible. Imagine being so petty that winning points in an Internet argument comes at the expense of committing a crime and potentially putting thousands of people's lives at risk. I don't know how I'd be able to sleep at night if this happened to me.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Yeah... but he won the argument! :S
@princessolmeca2933 11 ай бұрын
@@slopesgameroom Fair enough. But at what cost, though? At what cost?! 🤣
@BeefIngot 11 ай бұрын
It's so sad to me that world of tanks and warthunder are basically the only places for people into tanks. Both have just become such awful pay to win monetization schemes skinned with tanks it hurts. Marketing dark patterns are their corporate bibles.
@GhostNappa2k10 11 ай бұрын
Oooh, didn't expect a bit of The Offspring in this video, good choice 🤘
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
One of my faves for sure :D
@ProjectSh4dow 11 ай бұрын
One of my all time favorite artists!
@bluecarbon32 11 ай бұрын
I was looking specifically for a comment about the music. Yes, great choice. It fit really well.
@NightshadeX85 11 ай бұрын
I'd rather take the word of someone in the REME than a tank commander. REME are part of the technical branch and you ALWAYS, ALWAYS ! take the word of the technical over anyone else's. So it's hardly embarrassing if this is true. I think an aircraft engineer knows more about aircraft than an air stewardess or air traffic controller. I think a car engineer and mechanic knows more about cars than a taxi driver so it's hardly an own is it ? People who break things down and fix them and get them working again know more than people who operate them.
@rhawkas2637 11 ай бұрын
There was (unsurprisingly) yet another leak (for the F-117 Nighthawk this time) on War Thunder forums right around the time this video was posted.
@Nossieuk 11 ай бұрын
That idea abiyt gaijin and Wargaming only using unclassified docs - is BS - they update them all the time to 'balance' them out. - it's a game at the end of the day.
@M4V3RiCkU235 10 ай бұрын
Ruzzia: How to find out about classified military equipment - Make a game with nice "toys". Makes everyone play it. Make Ruzzia super OP. Rant! Some passionate dude posts classified information just to prove is right. Jackpot! BTW: +1 for the RedAlert music. It was always about sovie... I mean Ruzzia.
@meligoth 11 ай бұрын
As a veteran, any weapon or platform is only as good as the sum of its parts which includes the people using the weapon to the maintenance folk that keeps it in top shape. The first argument about a weapon ive heard was the AK-47 vs M-16 debate., and boy the AK simps was a sight to behold.
@jokerincgaming2730 11 ай бұрын
I'm loving the offspring theme 🤘🤘
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha cheers mate. Big fan
@thewarroom1944 10 ай бұрын
As for the leaks this year, it’s hilarious that there have been leaks for the Eagle, Felon, and Typhoon considering none of them are in game. The F-16 and MiG-29 were added recently and the MiG-21 has been in game for a long time. I don’t know what’s left for to remain classified about the MiG-21 since it’s been in service for about 60 years and is likely going to leave active service soon.
@beachside1 10 ай бұрын
Im sure Gaijin is against knowing its stats and weaknesses. The Russian federation right now is probably not saying please make them stop sending us info about our enemy's tanks lol
@ItsTheFizz 11 ай бұрын
Imagine being a game developer and having to repeatedly explain that your game isn't a Kremlin PsyOp...
@Jayfive276 11 ай бұрын
We don't have to imagine, this is what happened.
@KasumiRINA 11 ай бұрын
Most russian games are. The worst of that is Tarkov. Which are pretty openly support russian war against Ukraine and had ppl even touring Donbas with russian troops, illegally crossing Ukrainian border. Other developers are less egregious only sponsoring terrorists and spreading russian propaganda by making their units WAY stronger than in reality. If you think it's silly remember how many Westerners were sure that Kyiv will fall in 3 days, that Ukraine will never retake Kherson or destroyed S400s in Crimea.
@AzraelThanatos 10 ай бұрын
I think it's more of them calling up various sides with a, "Yeah, it's us again..."
@GoRideLP 9 ай бұрын
yea the best thing about these 2023 leaks is that 4 out of 6 planes that got their documents leaked arent even in the game
@BlackburnBigdragon 11 ай бұрын
The most accurate tank simulator is "Steel Beasts". But it's expensive. Very expensive compared to War Thunder.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Oh really? Need to look into this
@Atomicallyawesome. 10 ай бұрын
Apache manual just got leaked, one more for the collection.
@olekzajac5948 10 ай бұрын
Oh man, this video ages absolutely brilliantly... every couple of weeks:)
@breadgetter9371 11 ай бұрын
11:32 you are talking about the French leclerc but you show the challenger?
@stijnVDA1994 10 ай бұрын
Uh two slight corrections; 1. The challenger 2 is basicly nearly fully retired from brittish service, and the ukraines are the only country that still has it in service.. 2. It's not as good as the leopard or abrams since in ukraine these are the ones being destroyed much more easily and having the biggest risk of having the ammunition killing the tank crew since both the leopard and abrams have a separate section for the ammunition with blowout panels making the crews safe from ammunition hits. Also there are tanks of wich are still classified in warthunder thus you need to check your sources a bit closer..
@stijnVDA1994 10 ай бұрын
Honestly what is worse is the game doesn't even work right actually not looking at the tank phisics but rather looking at the servers that do not work and maps being over reused wich aren't really good at all. And then there is the disappearing round round bug
@KaoruMzk 11 ай бұрын
Why didn't the devs limit the game to only WW2 era vehicles!? They would have saved themselves a lot of headaches.
@Optimusprime56241 11 ай бұрын
That woulda been boring as hell and they woulda run out of content years ago
@Fuzhou 11 ай бұрын
I mean. Tanks have been around for only a short amount of time.
@ALL_that_ENDS 11 ай бұрын
I always look forward to your new videos, they're always so thoughtfully researched and entertainingly performed, bringing my well being in absolute bliss. Thanks chum
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much buddy :D
@beachside1 10 ай бұрын
Can you imagine if Russia had the same situation about one of their tanks? The guy would be imprisoned and the shot.
@NcWcN1 11 ай бұрын
1:37 the Costa Rica national anthem? 😲 But we abolished our army back in 1948!
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Well spotted mate. That was actually taken from a royalty free music library. I had no idea it was the national anthem until after it uploaded
@ares5111 10 ай бұрын
This month Lockheed F-117 Nighthawk was leaked too.
@MayumiC-chan9377 10 ай бұрын
i’m married one my husband served in the South African National defense force and after years of service and forming a private security company he purchased a Centurion and its his calm place. I love watching him working on it and getting to help him. He never neglects me and we always spend time together but when he has time he will go to our on land garage and work on his Centurion,Brdm 2 and BTR-70 yes he collected the armored vehicles first.
@victim2077 11 ай бұрын
If I recall correctly most of the WT "leaks" aren't classified (as in only those who work with said plane/tank/helicopter have access to it), but are (pardon if I'm mixed nomenclature) marked "not for export", so every citizen of given country can see those, but said documents can't be taken/sent abroad.
@SoggyKatnip 11 ай бұрын
Nope
@mxcherryblue5943 11 ай бұрын
No, you're wrong. Each one has their own classification
@payne7119 11 ай бұрын
I’m pretty sure the devs initial reaction was can we add a premium version of this tank and charge $$$ for actual specs, but then thought better off it.
@dancingwiththedogsdj 11 ай бұрын
Sir, I absolutely love your videos, the voice, humor, just overall style, and the content itself always seems very well done! Thank you for your time, doing what you do, and for being you! You rock! Have a wonderful day/evening to all! 🍻🌎❤️🎶🕺
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Ahhhhhh cheers dude :D trying to refine my style constantly so comments like this are a real boost
@dancingwiththedogsdj 11 ай бұрын
@@slopesgameroom well, if nothing else, you just made my day and that itself should count for something! 😊 I think you're great and just fun to watch! (I mean I think you're accurate as you can be and all too) Keep up the fantastic work and keep your wonderful attitude! Appreciate ya! 🍻❤️👍
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Have a good one mate and again, a big thanks
@johndave117 11 ай бұрын
3:50 you have to up those losses to two now buddy, another challenger 2 got smoked in Ukraine today 🤣🤣
@carrito1981 11 ай бұрын
I love bombing targets in this game. Must satisfying feeling ever. Fly for 5 minutes doing nothing, then death from above! Nothing like it 😂
@lasskinn474 11 ай бұрын
well once the information is leaked then it hardly is private or secret anymore.
@mosser-wm3dx 10 ай бұрын
Slopes dropping the ball on the nuances of the "classified" situation. Some documents that have been shared were in fact declassified but only for use in the country for origin. Weird little grey area were technically they are ok nationally, but not more. Not even digitally
@timothypeterson4781 11 ай бұрын
Me: "Everything? I doubt that." *Shows up to Slope's house, gets let in and fed dinner.* Huh... He was telling the truth.
@punk_loki4294 9 ай бұрын
13:32 pls what song is this I used to like it in high school but I can’t remember what it is
@moeheil8839 10 ай бұрын
But did that challenger 2 guy win the argument? You know, the important part
@SomberFireBall 11 ай бұрын
Slope I love the video but I do have to bring up that the video's research is a bit sloppy. For example 3 out of 6 of the "in-game" fighter jets shown at the end of the video are not even in the game at the time of writing nor will the SU57 (3rd plane to shown white and blue paint) ever be added to the game. I'd recommend if ever do a video on the topic again ask some War Thunder players or KZfaqrs like Ash, Zoltan Sultan or Iron Armenian I'm sure they'd be more than willing to Collab and help with the video. Anyways good video and have a good day.
@guywiththebottle 11 ай бұрын
Oops.
@pavelslama5543 10 ай бұрын
War Thunder is that game that claims to be a sim, but falls flat on the realism front, resulting in fanboys trying to push the devs to "fix" the supposed inaccuracies, not realizing that those inaccuracies are there by design.
@ZachGatesHere 11 ай бұрын
Hell hath no fury like the rage of a military nerd.
@Zeithri 11 ай бұрын
My god I need to be on the forums more because I want to read those plane and chopper ones. Where do they mostly post them lol? xD
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha I'm staying outta this one
@murderboi92 10 ай бұрын
"Warthunder has no problem - Warthunder IS the problem" -random wot player
@JordanHowellMusic 11 ай бұрын
Wow Well said, all the names at the end of the video ; all of the KZfaq I guess shout outs of every single persons name? You did it all correct , in one take! Much props that IS DJ skills. do respect it.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha really? I always pronounce stuff wrong... go me :D
@PixolScoot 11 ай бұрын
Warthunder Mods: For Five Minutes. could you not release classified information... FOR FIVE MINUTES!!! Community: ..... F-117 Flight Manual go brrrr
@carnonPL 10 ай бұрын
when you mentioned the "classified' thing I knew exacly what was that about and began to slowly laugh more and more
@Alexthedragon18 10 ай бұрын
We can just slap the AH64 and the F117 to that list
@Keirnoth 11 ай бұрын
"I don't understand why you would lie about that" This is the most INTERNET of Internet arguments ever lmfao
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
But an engineer would technically know more than a commander about the nitty gritty makings of a tanks wall thickness. That is if he was an engineer
@umi3017 10 ай бұрын
I'm an airliner instructor and even then I'll think twice before put any copyright material from my company and aircraft manufacturer out to public flight sim hobby forum...
@jasonviande5053 11 ай бұрын
Why the hell are people arguing about realism in an arcade style video game? I just don't get it.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
It's very sad
@klipsfilmsmelbourne 11 ай бұрын
Navy mode I know it’s least played flooded by multi account farm bots to fill up the match and ruin the game for anyone playing it Damage model on naval vessels I sometimes I complain of some vessels can’t sink properly for coastals hull is black while you hit it and won’t sink properly. Bluewater vessels in old version of the game you can simply hit ships everywhere but they change the damage model creating false advertise
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
That sucks
@viperz3r016 11 ай бұрын
Where'd you get the image of the tank for the thumbnail?
@flyboymb 10 ай бұрын
When I saw the description saying that War Thunder could be no more, I was thinking that it was running afoul of gambling laws or something that would actually go against the company. I haven't heard anything about any government taking action against Gaijin for leaks being posted on the forums.
@theatheisthammer 10 ай бұрын
@slopes they made the challenger 2 basically down the street at Vickers defence system You could go watch them testing it constantly when I was younger and you could walk round them as they were kept sometimes behind a chicken wire fence you could actually touch them and there testing ground wasn't fenced off. So people could photograph it inside and out, they were not really being secretive.
@Spectere 11 ай бұрын
brb, looking for my Americana CD.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Such a kick ass album
@parhamghm 11 ай бұрын
Awesome game yet not completely without problems. I’ve played this and it’s totally worth it❤
@SuperJim 11 ай бұрын
That Red Alert theme tune though.. quality.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
Had to add it! Cheers for being a part of this one buddy
@nemisous83 10 ай бұрын
Honestly this is one of those things that is largely misunderstood. Leaking operators manuals which don't require a security clearance to view, and often times military members have stashed away in their garage forgotten. Doesn't constitute leaking "classified information" if this was the case you would see the FBI, CCP, MI6 breaking down people's doors.......which surprise surprise they aren't. These reason they aren't is because most of these manuals are obsolescent and don't pose a security risk. The reason most of these documents haven't received an unclassified designation is largely because no one has requested it through FOIA or other means and the government is rather lazy.
@feraltrafficcone4483 10 ай бұрын
Fun part is that two or three more have happened since
@pjmetzen3483 11 ай бұрын
Most of the manuels posted to the forums aren’t classified and are ones you can buy on the internet for $10.
@martinmethod427 11 ай бұрын
Here's the thing: the reason why these leaks happen to begin is because of the absolutely horrible balancing job that Gaijin Entertainment KFT does. Most designs tend to get neutered severely for "balance reasons" (Think Leopard 2 and Type 10 Autoloader), meanwhile Russian designs tend to be WAY more survivable than what the Ukranian conflicts have demonstrated them to actually be, because the documents they refer to tend to be heavily propagandized in the favor of the Russians and against anyone that isn't Russia or it's allies. Of course, it also doesn't help that there seems to be a priority inclusion clause where Russian vehicles are at the top of the list of inclusion over other nations (Mainly Japan; those fuckers are on suicide watch at this point). Pair these with monetization that makes EA look like a saint and the absolute pieces of shit that is Pacifica and Stona, and you get the biggest reason why people wish for a serious competitor to War Thunder.
@blunderingfool 11 ай бұрын
That bit about Japan, hehe. Thanks for phrasing it in such an amusing way.
@Pendarr 11 ай бұрын
Who are Pacifica and Stona?
@martinmethod427 11 ай бұрын
@@Pendarr Just a pair of Europeans Gaijin Entertainment has as the Forum Moderators for their game forums. These powertripping assholes in combination with their forum's "no taking about moderation" rule is why these two can be a dick to anyone and everyone, and can in cases gaslight to get people to break rules to lock up threads. These pieces of shit would not be chosen as moderators for any other online forum. Honestly, I want the forums nuked out of existence just because of these two assholes ALONE.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 10 ай бұрын
3:59 😅😂is just normal tank get destroy by mine
@Eonymia 7 ай бұрын
It's a self-caused issue by Gaijin. To get a NATO vehicle "fixed" they have ridiculous requirements for supporting documents that are seemingly never good enough, whereas nerfing them can safely be done by misinterpreted documents (as an example resulting in a shell's values being changed to a completely different, worse, shell's values and this change is yet to be reverted, despite the devs acknowledging the fact that they fucked up months ago)
@rorysyers8457 11 ай бұрын
All this to win a flame war? We nerds will bring apocalypse if we not careful.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
THE KING OF THE TANK NERDS
@jerrybuck9236 10 ай бұрын
Did anyone else have to pause this video and break out the old Americana album? That intro got me hyped!
@pensive7270 10 ай бұрын
Did you forget to add the stealth night hawk leak? I don’t remember if it was before or after this video posted…
@lordlundar 11 ай бұрын
I don't say this much (okay, this is the first time tbh) but Gaijin is better off just shutting down the official forums, if for no other reason than to give plausible deniability from potential government actions.
@slopesgameroom 11 ай бұрын
It will just happen on Reddit or in fan made discords etc is my guess
@lordlundar 11 ай бұрын
@@slopesgameroom Of course, but it's not about stopping it, it's about distancing themselves from it.
@rahrah5091 8 ай бұрын
Why would anyone leak the aircraft spec's in war thunder. The flight system and game play is shit ( for planes).
@owainevans89 10 ай бұрын
If anything an emgineer that works on the challenger 2 would know more about the intricasies of the armour than a tank commander would
@Pendarr 11 ай бұрын
3:56 wow so its been an undefeated tank until like 5 days ago? I don't know much at all about tanks but that does sound very impressive considering how crazy weaponry must be now
@ivorynargie 11 ай бұрын
If im not mistaken, it is the only modern mbt that saw combat and was not destroyed yet, till 5 days ago
@user-hi7jk6fu3f 11 ай бұрын
Depends on what you consider to be defeated. If I remember correctly, back in 2003 one of these became stuck after a track was damaged, took over 10 hits from rpgs and was later recovered. There was also one destroyed by friendly fire.
@blunderingfool 11 ай бұрын
@@user-hi7jk6fu3fOh, one of them was taking RPG hits all day! Also there is a distinct difference between "Immobilized" and "knocked out". Take a guess at which counts as defeated.
@user-hi7jk6fu3f 11 ай бұрын
@@blunderingfool Some people consider immobilized to be as good as knocked out
@guywiththebottle 11 ай бұрын
Can't help but be critical about stats such as this one. It is not like most modern tanks are sent to war on a daily basis. It is not quite a world war situation and so you can keep a tank on the training grounds for 30 years and still call it undefeated.
@txfrogboy8975 11 ай бұрын
1:46 “Tank nerds” just Spookston videos lol
@riv4lm4n 11 ай бұрын
Hopefully warthunder gets destroyed and everyone's money they wasted into it is refunded. Right ? We'll never get back the time wasted tho
@mokaso 10 ай бұрын
People mentioning they feel bad for the devs. I just can’t and I’m willing to be a lot can’t either. Their first response to the player base’s outrage regarding the horrible economy changes they were going to add was to bring out their creative director and insult the player base for not understanding F2P games. The same people who locked and debted player’s accounts who used a sign-up bonus they didn’t properly test. The concept of War Thunder is amazing and their’s nothing like. But fuck Gaijin. I wish another studio would buy it. Cmon Microsoft, you’re buying everything else.
@Vojira 11 ай бұрын
I don't know anything about this game so I was just sitting here, waiting for the reveal and the "Oh my god" that left my mouth at 5:35 was one of immense disbelief
@porosus2469 10 ай бұрын
1:45 "tank nerds" and all the videos are from Spookston. They didn't have to do our Rant King like this!💀