amazing cinematic, TERRIBLE story writing :(

Yeah the in-game story ruined everything, the scenery in those is really great and they could be really emotionally impactful if they had some sort of build up to them.

@@HappyroosterYT I think it's a bit of both. Plus, I think the real problem is they have too many writers so the story get's written more by committee than by one skilled writer.

@@HappyroosterYT I agree. Just saying awful storytelling is quite useless when you don't point it out. I wouldn't say awful more...predictable. I don't like being able to call twists like Sylvanas's sudden but inevitable betrayal of the Horde. And while she's always been evil, they've gone overboard on making her evil, I guess for the sole purpose of squeezing out any and all player sympathy for her while just designating Saurfang the good guy because "muh honor". And there were interesting aspects of both that could have been used. Sylvana's battlefield pragmatism vs Saurfang's sensibilities. this was touched on exactly once and it was never determined what Saurfang's alternative to use of the blight was outside of "Fight Really REALLY hard!" I just pray that they do not sacrifice N'zoth upon the alter of patch 8.3 boss. We already killed one Old God this expac, we need to let N'zoth marinade until 9.3 at least.

Its an insult to us animators to say that that the quality of a render is anything to do with the technology. its down to each and every create that took part in creating

Albi Mataj i didn't even play it before but i never miss these epic cinematics

Albi Mataj same

True..

ive never played wow before, was never a fan of rpg, im an oldschool warcraft 3 fan, great game, dota player , these kind of games have gone extinct nowadays, and also a hearthstone player, i love watching these clips, whoever makes these cinematic trailers , knows what hes doing!

I am a noob and still play WoW.

Best comment in this comments section, kek.

Thats pretty funny

Oof

up you go i wanted to see hellscream vs sylvanas, dude took mannoroth 2 times in different timelines...

Sirrinkyau

Sirrinkyau

Burned hotter than fel.

Thrall's Brother* you mean, if he calls you that you're pretty much dead

Muller Potgieter unless your Jaina

Ever since Activision decided it was better to cater to the alliance it really has

Increases the odds of a meaningful death as well though.

@@Iqbalx1 I prefer Yorak's explanation, Jaina isn't the only one. There's also the three from the WC3TFT Founding of Durotar bonus campaign who attacked Daelin alongside Jaina: Rexxar, Rokhan and Chen.

Yep. Not the brightest sons out there

Orcs are not the brightest race tbh

Several of the cinematics had callbacks to old scenes. The one for Lordaeron throneroom was a callback to Arthas' betrayal. To a degree very nice, but to a degree they clung to it a bit to much.

Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that.

@@Eucep and sylvanas coming out orgrimmar was a callback to arthas coming out the wrathgate

@Karleen Cawranger If you’re referring to his class, I believe he is classified now as a Paladin after receiving his fathers sword. I don’t know if that holds up canonically though

@Karleen Cawranger he also used mass res after it was removed form the game

@@Lv20Bard he became a pally hwen he cheates in the BFA cinelatic by using mass res after it was removed from the game

Nice

@@daletorrisi4038 the soldiers in the cinematic werent dead, they were injured and moving

honestly Blizzard animators design/create photo realistic animation better than Dreamworks or Disney lol

Excuse me what? Cinematics quality 20/10, storyline 0/10.

Idk if they burnt out but like the in-game cutscenes for raids or pivotal quests are choppy edits

was

Too bad the quality of the game is proportionally different than the cinematics

The cg was the only great things in the Warcraft movie...

They should be the one continuing warcraft movie series but with animated instead. Honestly the animation looks awesome compared to the one on real life action

@@andre002wp it still was pretty good though. I liked the movie.

each shot of this level of CG costs 10x more than a real camera shot.............

@@Damesanglante PREACH

"It CLEAVED my heart" -imdb

Featuring Zappy Boi.

better than the warcraft movie

I'd literally rather pay HUGE amounts of money to see that than buy store mounts lulw

IGN "Too many Orcs, 6.5/10"

The little smile of Sylvanas… it’s perfect.

For me its durotan

@@chikechovis2499 Durotan is also really cool.

lok'tar ogar

@Hanna Yachou dead coochie mate.

@@theimperviousfirecracker7934 khkkk

@Berserker Movies have million dollar budgets, sure they got moneyy for it

@Berserker ofc they wont, but it would be amazing

@Berserker BFA cough cough

Every min of these cinematics cost $1m

I’d pay it several times over 😉

Nah. Make it 8 hours

2 hours is not enough. This recap alone took about 30 mins.

I want more than 2 hours. I want a whole afternoon to be all but a movie like this.

They should make a series not a movie.Long series with 20 seasons

@@erikaleksandrov2887 Yes...

Right! Man was like "ay homie...whatd you just say?"

👀 “tf you say?”

Like Father Like Son or would it be Like Son, like Father?

Rolling Stone it really wasn’t, I enjoyed it , they should have made it a show it was too much to fit in a single movie

@Rolling Stone It was the endproduct of too many cooks in the kitchen.

@Rolling Stone Warcraft movie was awesome but it didn't follow the canon storyline, so for that reason, I've not been the biggest fan.

they did and yall didn't cared

@@LXXVIIZONE agree. It looked good and such. But you're right on the mutli-stories going on at one time and trying to get something figured out. If they only stuck to one thing and than expended on it in other stories.

It's "Where I lay my head is home."

Sounds like prostitution

The beast around me are nothing,compared to the beast within....

Classic Rexxar.

I get that refference! Haha! Tales of The Past for the win!

*Drops war banner*

Press “For the alliance “ to resurrect entire front line and give 500% Defense and plot armor😌

This was the best war cinematic tho hands down.

For Honor and the Horde!

@@KyUuBiIgOnEfErAl Together, utlimate defense and offense. Unstoppable.

Dude its just an animation...

Frank Potter just RPG dude...

@@f.ferenc88 Dude it's just a KZfaq Comment.

@@f.ferenc88 he's quoting what Thrall said in the cut-scene after the last one.

@@f.ferenc88 This game is his whole life.

Honestly if the rumors are true about the factions dissolving for the next xpac, it would be extremely hype (story wise)

>He was a hero, and will be remembered as such forever. Or at least until next expansion

@@DoctorM42 i havent played for a decade, but seeing my favourite character turn heel is sad, maybe theyll do it again with saurfang

I’ve played for so long so seeing someone like Saurfang die really hurts :((

@@theggukster5302 we're running out of og orcs

soundtrack is God level

It's getting more affordable, but especially back then, it was extremely expensive. That movie was a huge risk for blizzard and it's unlikely that making a full cgi movie would've payed off.

sebowski wish they would make a War of the Ancients movie, heck I don’t care if they don’t even use CGI lol. That part of Warcraft history is just great.

@@5Robin5 there is the fan movie on KZfaq, try that onr

@@5Robin5 I would give anything to see broxigars last stand on screen.

Dont forget they are making these few mins CGI parts few years...

One more tip for the road: Don’t stand near portals. It never ends well. Deadmines, Molten Core, Dark Portal. If it’s an archway and it has swirlies, don’t do it.

Also don't carry around shiny things 20 murder hobos might want.

And never challenge a Sicilian when death is on the line!

Well Thrall is now.

It was my understanding that it's forbidden to use magic in a Mak'gora. Sylvanas cheated. But really, is anyone surprised she would cheat considering she has no regard whatsoever for honour.

His dad may have lost his way, but he didn't. He loves his home ever-so dearly.

I think be must a spiritual succesor to Arthas.

@@jonascastejon5888 Arthas was way cooler! That's why he got to be the Lich King, instead of a Brad Pitt wannabe! :evilgrin:

@@jonascastejon5888 im gonna repurpose some gandalf wisdom "Arthas as he should've been"

Anduin is the soyjak to Varian's chad

Well.. Cinematic shorts are easier to make than whole movies.

@@Heavente so the green one in the earlier scene is durotan sons yes?

@@diodattebayo1557 Yes, Thrall

@@Booba69698 But isn't his name saurfang?...sorry for asking but my knowledge are limited only to the live-action movie

@@diodattebayo1557 Sry for my late reply. The one who died in this video is Saurfang. The one with black hairs behind him is Thrall. Did you watch Warcraft Movie? Do you remember the leader of Frost Wolf Clan called Durotan. Durotan died while fighting Gul'dan because Gul'dan cheated in Mak'Gora. Thrall is the son of Durotan and you could say he is the true hero of horde. Sry for my bad english. Edit: Thrall is the one who said “...we don't get to hide" in the video.

FOR THE HOOOOORDE! but horde left her The Horde is nothing also we are all nothing beside of old gods and death

Feels like that opening cinematic was for a different plotline entirely

Not the same day.

​@@elementengine Not that this is an excuse, but it's not exclusive to Blizzard. Often this happens with actual movies recently, particularly blockbusters due to costs of reshoots. Some of them are a jigsaw puzzle of footage shot with different intent by different directors.

@@Reirainsong These scenes are literally 2 years apart. A lot changes with a person's motivations in 2 years.

Lmfao. So true

In the newest cinematic I wasnt sure that sylvanas wasnt real. She looked like an actor could be playing her.

Or they found a portal to Azeroth?

@@dinosawr8329 The portal was in Area 51

Blizzard’s CGI capabilities far surpass any motion picture industry’s standards. I still, to this day, have not seen anything with CGI better than this.

Saurcroc come back at Shadowland ?

@@Farengo Well considering the shadowlands are the afterlife, probably.

"I'm not through with you."

@@thibautisserant Did sylvanas said this?

100% agree.

thrall knew he couldnt win, neither did saurfang he didnt want to win he wanted to send that message, expose her.,

Well Silvanas cheated, she killed him with magic, which is forbidden in Mak’gora, so he did indeed win. Sadly he died winning.

He won. SHE lost control, she lost the horde. He may have died, but his story and hers will endure. For the Horde.

gave me chills

They are but isn't Dranosh in Nagrand in vanilla? How do we get there? lol

Yeah but so is Sylvanas

Well his son is in Outland...but yeah:D

@@skirdus367 Hail to the Dark Queen

Ah classic denial

Amen

well , it was the beginning of everything, ending with the birth of thrall , i guess and hope they will make sequels covering all the way from warcraft 3's story to todays world of warcraft's

You are right!

They tried to cram wayyy too much into the film.

@@GRAFFDEMON yeah.. true, imagine if they started with the Titans and old God's, majority would be asking is this really World of Warcraft?

The absolute chad of the horde.

Serpent Venom Dink dink

pink pank

Tink tink

My favorite character from WOW and tauren chieftain .

Ting Ting.

.....yeeeeeaaaaaahhhhhh.

Seriously, they need to let them make the movie just like this

Don't forget the musicians and sound designers

@@WingZX1103 its hard, too hard i think.

Lmao some cutscenes wont make this pile of garbage called bfa right

His brother and his son. Where they rest there is no greater honor.

Was that thrall who carried him ?

@@nobodyspecial596 Yes that was Thrall.

this made me chuckle real good hahaha

lol that is fun =D

And I used to really like Sylvanis but she is twisted now. I guess the story needs an enemy but that true enemy was supposed to be the old gods, the one controlling Ashara. Maybe controlling Sylvanis too.

@@misterNicarus I dont think so, she has her own twisted reasons for this. If you look at her path it was expected that eventually she would show herself as she is, someone without honor.

@@misterNicarus You have to watch the Sylvannas loyalist cutscene that comes after mok'gora.

I'd prefer more game over watching movies.

@@williamarthurfenton1496 Can we have both, please?!

We'll probably get Sylvanas sooner or later

@@brodskypower They have a limited budget.

@@williamarthurfenton1496 they are trading content for money. If they announce a movie, I'm OK to pre-order it a year or two before release

Welp, that's enough internet for today

"WoW will endure! WoW is strong!" "WoW is NOTHING! YOU are all NOTHING!"

Imma stick to warcraft 3 reforged and frozen throne

She’s still my WarChief and my Queen before that. My Ranger General!

ɴᴏᴛʜɪɴɢ ᴛᴏ sᴇᴇ ʜᴇʀᴇ can’t wait

they claim that these short animation cost in the millions to produce, and an entire movie would be staggering. Ofcourse I hope they do it one day, something like Halo: Fall of Reach style.

Warcraft movie.. the orcs were this good

@@-bdl2696 I wish they would spend that money on improving the game instead

@@-bdl2696 you know this by fact or just assumptions? Since i see so many say things like this "cost them millions to produce" like If its means that the company will go bankrupt If it doesnt success, when in reality its not millions but alot, atleast.

BFA is still a great expansion, and i've yet to run out of things to do. But for those who can only handle doing one thing out of the hundreds they do, I can understand.

Phade102 tons of stuff to do but all boring af , world quest after wolrd quest just to power a necklace that noone wanted :(

@@Paradox2o9 Then why do you keep playing it and watching the videos.

oguzhan tavus as a mage, I'm hitting pyroblast the millisecond it procs.

Garrosh approves.

If Sylvanas was a frost mage, their fight would be much funnier. Old (classic) Warrior vs Frost Mage. hehe.

@@Alexor715 lol daily struggle of warriors for generations

Thrall cheated too

Holythump another fortune tbh

blizzard already have movie

There will not be a Warcraft movie with quality like this,Hollywood is filled with money leeches that ramp up costs for the simplest of things, cinematics like this cost cheaper cause they bypass normal movie making channels.

@@ppsarrakis tintin was a good cg film tho

Maaaan, I would go watch it in the cinema at least 3 times and buy 3 Blu-ray copies jus to show them love

It's not that deep dude.

idk how they write stuff like this and let the voice actor deliver it in the most soy way possible

YES

You mean Zekhan The Leader of the Horde we need !

@@danthewatcher9681 as much as I love Zappy Boi, he's still far too inexperienced to lead the Horde. I can see it happening a few xpacs down the road, but definitely not yet.

Old warriors did not get old by accident, they got old by being wise, having the right knowledge, and being tough. Never underestimate an old man who has grown up in a rough profession or a rough environment :)

@@markus9415 Yeah but in truth, an old warrior is a lucky warrior most of all.

@@Mygall05 Old warriors did not get old by luck or accident is the better formulation actually. Luck doesn't exist that's only probability and chance.

@@markus9415 Probability and chance are literally Luck. That's like saying Water doesn't exist because it's just Hydrogen and Oxygen.

​@@CGSRichards Call it whatever you want but luck as we perceive it does not exist.

im in the same boat bro, Im horde to my core, well i havent played in a long while tho i still follow the lore, but if I ever come back Im wearing red again. But Ive also really enjoyed the growth of Anduin's character, especially for the novels ive read, hes just likable and its inspiring to see the little naive boy placeholding a Throne grow into a warrior king worthy of the seat but keep his good natured soul. I cant help but like him

Yeah. Plus Anduin doesnt have his father's rage issues. Hes got his holy spidey sense

@@AverageAwesomeDude this

you guys are the best :)

@@EvanCops tbf though his father's rage issues stemmed from him being empowered by the wolf wild spirit

Warcraft 3 is enough 😃

I stopped playing ten years ago but I still love to follow the story!

@@mswietny7181 Facts

i hate the game, but love the lore

I mostly play or played Heroes of the Storm and Hearthstone.. but I loved all these great cinematic trailers that are on YT. (and I also read about the lore / stories of Warcraft. I also learned about some characters by listening to some dudes from YT.. that did Blizzard games related stuff). I do enjoy some of these characters and I also like to play them in Heroes of the Storm. (same goes for some DiabIo heroes. Neva pIayed DiabIo either.. but with the next DiabIo 4 I am planing to try it. They also did a great cinematic trailer for that too. As a guy who also likes a good horror movie.. I gotta try this spooky DiabIo game too)

elFacho it was never for the horde or the forsaken it was always for her And now I believe it was always for death

Sylvanas is still the best character in bfa, I am loyal to her and will always be. You can kiss my ring when syvi and I saving azeroth

Cant believe people are delusional enough to think Sylvanas is Garrosh 2.0 and she has absolutely no intention of saving the Horde.. can we pls get real... she is clearly deceiving both friend and ally to enact a method neither is okay with yet will save them all. Setting herself up as the villian makes perfect sense in that regard..

High Botanist Tel'arn Garrosh 2.0? Nah. If anything, right now she’s an Illidan 2.0 except nowhere near as cool and her reasons are completely idiotic. If not that, she’s just Gul’Dan 2.0

@@FabschOblivion669 That's a very stupid observation but it's kind of common at this point I guess? Blizzard's misdirection with Sylvanas' character is so painfully obvious yet half the player base is completely fooled lmao. Starting to think WoW players have never read a book before.

Hail Zappy Boi.

The hidden MVP

Yeah, Blizzard sure has awesome moments.

He even made 'the hatchet' only to bury it.

@@Rallarberg That is his Fathers Axe.

@@absentminded02 That's pure speculation. :) (just like my statement, but that seemed like a more reduntantly cool thing to do xD )

I don't know about Varok topping Broxigar

Broxigar went out wounding Sargaras, one on one. That's REALLY hard to top.

Lyoko dident say Varoks death was ”better” then broxs. But Varoks life was filld with honor and the orc way. The ending was better to me becuse Varok deserved a warriors death after all the years of fighting

He should cough and come back to life at the end, and be all: "aww gawdamit!"

@@galenbjorn443 So, you're right, but you also straight up just described Broxigar's story as well.

good one

LMAO

I thought that was Thrall, but I've always remembered him having a hammer. So when he took his axe out I got a bit confused. I must have missed something, somewhere...I'm usually pretty on top of WoW lore.

@@aspencarter4229 it's just an "emergency" axe don't think too much into it. haha

@@aspencarter4229 Doomhammer was given to the Shaman players in Legion, as he (Thrall) lost faith in his judgement and his relation to the elements (he used the elements to win a duel against his former pupil, a duel in which he wasn't supposed to use them at all).This axe is a new weapon he's forged and kept around just in case.

Large hands can make most human swords look like knives

Ghost Hippie agreed

Toothpick

*Holds normal sword* This isnt a knife *grabs Shalamayne* This is a knife! Varok i think

e hicieron mas que su hacha :v

Thank you for pointing out that subtle detail that nobody noticed, Captain.

@@dawn-blade I didnt notice. Cause I didnt remember. So yes, thanks him, its interesting.

Also, Sylvanas going through the gates of Orgrimmar looks a lot like Arthas going through the gates of the Wrathgate.

didnt notice that one ,thx

as a great fan i feel kinda dumb that i didnt realized that or even that his son frozen dead was the one killed by Arthas. Damm

i doubt they make it again, especially they made Warcraft movie and it failed in north America.. Producers only can about money if it failed the first time i doubt they make it again, however who knows.. Maybe someday..

Guess what?? Rumour has it there will be a sequel

@@ad3s892 Hopefully...

@@justliketree27 It did well enough in the far east and europe for a sequel. Mental really it never made waves in the states, Warcraft a brilliant film imo

Amen

@Danny O'Donell imagine it, the last cinematic for this part of WoW. Andurin stands along side Thrall, the combined forces of the Alliance and the Horde fighting together for the last time. A final charge against Sylvanas and her forces. "For Azeroth!" They cry in unison, and fly forward to their fates.

@@cerickson017@@cerickson017@@cerickson017 My knowledge of Warcraft lore is just limited to Warcraft 3. Do you mind telling me what happens to Sylvanas? I'm pretty sure she's one of the "good guys" in Warcraft 3.

@@jogmesson She is resurrected by the lich king (arthas), and turned into a banshee.

@@NotStirred9 yes i know that, what i mean is how did she becomes the villain this time?

@Jog Messon Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but the thing is that she has in mind something greater than just the Horde and the Alliance, she is moved by her own interests related to something that only she knows and wants to prevent, or something else. At least that's what it comes to my mind when she says "You're all nothing", refering that the two sides in the war are trivialities to her. Maybe she is like Illidan, and think that her plans will allow everyone to survive a future war.

but for some reason i think Slyvanas meant to do all that to unite them as one against common enemy to prepare for greater threats.

Nah bro. Saurfang is a traitor. Long live the Banshee Queen.

@@BleachRush Raise everyone as undead to fight a common enemy? Why did we even assault Icecrown? We should've just let Arthas do this job 10 years ago. Sylvanas's plan is no plan, it's just madness.

@@1Podri We don't know her true plan yet. She has some kind of bargain with Azshara regarding N'Zoth and that cursed dagger shell of Xal'atath, Blade of the Black Empire... But yes, it'll end badly for us all.

shut up weeb

Garrosh 2020

My favorite quote from warcraft since the moment it rested upon my ears. That quote (imo) fits the final confrontation perfectly

"Toy soldiers in tin plate. Beasts who howl for honor."

was that in ICC?

@@shawnthornton7971 I think thats when Garrosh executed the orc who massacred neutral druids in Taldarath Grove

courtesy of Maximus Decimus Meridius

Rip gladiator :/

this isn't Gladiator

Thats elysian fields. Like my pic

@Dakota Lovell ty

Pretty sure the production costs would be too high, at least with this level of production. Would certainly be interesting to see what they could do with an appropriate budget and team though.

Yeah the reason they don't make a full length movie out of these is that it costs way too much. Just for a regular anime episode it costs $100-200K, imagine this

@@joeblow3145 Even if the costs would be stupid for production, you have to think "would they make the money back?" and man, with this kind of quality, voice acting, back story, immersion and characters, everyone and their mom would want to see this.

I'm sorry but Sylvanas turned evil even faster than Dany, the writing isn't exactly great. It's just the personal involvement you feel because you play the game and feel part of the world. You'd lose that with a TV series.

@@Ambroos You say that and assume that Sylvanas is the evil. Good writing would make you believe that.

hahahahaha my axe.,.. i laughed so hard

Blur. Blur studios make these cinematics. When will you idiots understand this? Been saying this for almost 20 years now.

Mighty Baloo Well that’s just not true. Blizzard uses their in house cinematic team to make these videos. Blur has done some amazing work such as all the Halo remastered cutscenes and the Star Wars: The Old Republic trailers, but they have nothing to do with these cinematics or Blizzard.

@@vincentfdrums nope Blur makes all the cinematics for Blizzard since time immemorial

@@stormxlr2377 stop spreading misinformation

The manufacturing cost would be staggering. Probably not worth it on paper yet, considering that the manufacturing cost of Avengers endgame was at 350 million dollars, and had a revenue at 2,79 Billion. A move made by using CGI with this level of quality is just not worth it, it would cost a fortune and it is not certain that it would sell enough to make up for it. I would absolutely love to see this happen though, since I'm a huge Warcraft fan and the animation in these cinematic trailers are top tier. It does not simply get any better than this.

Also, we have the China virus to deal with now, the theatrical industry has taken a massive hit. Which make this even less likely in my opinion. Big name movies in general are waiting to release because of this, since it is the main revenue stream for the producers of the movies.

They are working on warcraft 2 and 3 movies the series will take forever

Cemetery*

@@Jaybird9x Actually, since he's talking multiples, it's Cemeteries* You're welcome

@@havod8101 I think you'll find they're graveyards.

@@Draczar Just a bunch of tombstones, really.

Adam Ramos I’ve won as horde in Alterac Valley, just have to get some mindliked folks to play defense.. but you know how hard that is.. especially when that defense can turn into a turtle fest and then we lose!!

These cinematics are made by Blur, so Blizzard(or what's left of it) might have just a few people helping with it.

@@Loug522 All the Cinematics are made in house.

@@Loug522 don't spread misinformation

Blizzard needs this CGI for the next Wadc aft movie

Oh i hate those turtle quests. Stopped as soon as i got revered.

Too soon? Depends...

Justin Priest No. It was an Orc and Horde tradition. It would have been seen as dishonorable for someone to intervene in the Mak’Gora. And honestly, Saurfang had earned his warrior’s death.

Yeah since when do priests have battle rez

@@masteroftheassassins actually slyvanas cheated though, so I think resurrecting him would be fair game. No magic is allowed in the fight. Like how when Durotan faced Guldan and he used warlock magic against him. And again when Thrall used magic against Garrosh in WoD.

I think Anduin understands how Saurfang wouldn't want to be rezzed. His family and his son were already gone. He lost a single combat he likely never expected to win but in doing so he won back the Horde from Sylvanas. If he were rezzed that pinnacle moment of warrior honor is diminished.

Or maybe when you know you are dying, always yell "FOR AZEROTH"

Especially when you’re holding Shalamayne lmao

@@recusantvessel Especially, when you split them :D

I love how people are reposting this still. Varian yelled for the Aliance before he died lmao.

good way to die in my opinion

@SMBComix Film was full of bullshit. Blizzard ruins its own stories.

I disagree. The movie was an intro for new people and admittedly they tried too much for the time it ran. People like us have experienced the lore over years hence why these CGI shorts make sense. The game fills out the rest as we play.

@@coppervic Film was simply whack. Period.

Woo Kalegos gon git it next xpac

@@coppervic They did it with Kingsglaive and that movie was pretty awesome.

Just watched gladiator last night.

watching gladiator after this

he is so maximus

@@jasminemadden4138 just like maximus, this was the death he was meant to have, now he joins his son.