Warframe | CINTA: It’s Better Than Nataruk - Here is Why. | Duviri Paradox

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The Cinta is better than the Nataruk.
There are a couple of reasons for this.
But it doesn't mean you have to use the Cinta.
Why is the Cinta better, and why do people still prefer Nataruk?
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0:00 Intro & Contexts
0:25 Best vs Enjoyment
1:04 Cinta Mechanics
1:42 Perfect Shot Fire Rate Sweet Spot
2:09 Nataruk Hitbox Mechanics
2:35 Cinta Hitbox Mechanics
3:15 3x Headshot Multiplier
3:39 Head Crit Bonus
4:15 Nataruk vs Cinta Damage Comparison
4:40 Cinta Full Charge Advantages
5:09 Why Still Nataruk?
CINTA
5:39 Builds Overview
5:57 Build 01 | Viral Hunter Munitions (Endurance)
6:32 Build 01 | Fire Rate Mechanics
7:04 Build 01 | Why Not Longbow Sharpshot
7:15 Build 02 | Corrosive (Base SP+)
7:44 Build 02 | Weapon Arcanes & Headshots
8:12 Build 03 | Gas + Ensnare
8:32 Build 03 | Gas Cinta Limitations
8:58 Why Not Gas Cinta?
9:14 Nataruk vs Cinta Hitbox RE: Gas Builds
9:55 Use Gas Cinta If You Want, But Not Meta.
10:22 Build 04 | Demolyst Killer
10:47 Cinta Summary
11:05 Conclusion
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The Cinta outperforms the Nataruk always. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't use the Nataruk. It also doesn't mean you have to swap to Cinta. Today's video will show that sometimes the best gear isn't always your best option. Your enjoyment always comes first, and not always on what is best. There is also a difference between what you like, and what is useful. Luckily, both Cinta and Nataruk are useful.
Cinta has a bigger hitbox, higher damage, and also has multiplicative GunCO. Nataruk has smaller hitbox, lower damage and also multi GunCO. Where they are different though lies not just in performance, but also their QOL. Cinta's perfect shot window lasts only 20% of the ring, and ends early before the full charge shot. Nataruk's perfect shot window lasts 30% of the ring and runs all the way until just before the full charge shot. It is far easier to time a Nataruk perfect shot. Not only this, but Nataruk's perfect shot also sounds a lot better, with a grittier drawstring, and satisfying crunch on the bolt fired. Cinta in comparison, sounds like a slingshot, and the resulting bolt fired sounds like a spitball gun.
The lack of satisfying user experience, combined with less quality of life, make the Cinta less appealing to use than the Nataruk, despite the Cinta being a better weapon. Even the seemingly infinite ammo on Nataruk does not matter, because the Cinta has way more than enough and kills better, meaning it would not run out of ammo regardless. In the bow world, Cinta is superior to, but less QoL than Nataruk at the top. Paris and Dread Incarnons both sit below Cinta and Nataruk. Bramma is in its own category, whereas Prisma Lenz is below all the bows I mentioned. A bow that really does need help though, is Rakta Cernos.
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@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
*TIMESTAMPS* I'm on Twitch too now! See me live at: www.twitch.tv/aznvasions NEW Gun CO Spreadsheet: tinyurl.com/GunCOv2 0:00 Intro & Contexts 0:25 Best vs Enjoyment 1:04 Cinta Mechanics 1:42 Perfect Shot Fire Rate Sweet Spot 2:09 Nataruk Hitbox Mechanics 2:35 Cinta Hitbox Mechanics 3:15 3x Headshot Multiplier 3:39 Head Crit Bonus 4:15 Nataruk vs Cinta Damage Comparison 4:40 Cinta Full Charge Advantages 5:09 Why Still Nataruk? CINTA 5:39 Builds Overview 5:57 Build 01 | Viral Hunter Munitions (Endurance) 6:32 Build 01 | Fire Rate Mechanics 7:04 Build 01 | Why Not Longbow Sharpshot 7:15 Build 02 | Corrosive (Base SP+) 7:44 Build 02 | Weapon Arcanes & Headshots 8:12 Build 03 | Gas + Ensnare 8:32 Build 03 | Gas Cinta Limitations 8:58 Why Not Gas Cinta? 9:14 Nataruk vs Cinta Hitbox RE: Gas Builds 9:55 Use Gas Cinta If You Want, But Not Meta. 10:22 Build 04 | Demolyst Killer 10:47 Cinta Summary 11:05 Conclusion
@praneelprasad5042
@praneelprasad5042 11 ай бұрын
Got a question, since the full charge does overkill DRG, modding it for gas technically makes it easier to use than nataruk…rifght?
@fredf96
@fredf96 Жыл бұрын
"Focus on what you enjoy" that's what I'm talking about. That's why Revenant is in my least played frames.
@pancakemixwithblueberriesinit
@pancakemixwithblueberriesinit Жыл бұрын
My genuine favourite part about the Cinta is how I flashbang myself with every perfect shot. Picking off some Corpus from the other side of an ice field, mistiming a shot and blinding myself for a bit because my room is dark is truly a worthwhile experience.
@300y1
@300y1 Жыл бұрын
Have you tried using a dark energy color .........
@pancakemixwithblueberriesinit
@pancakemixwithblueberriesinit Жыл бұрын
@@300y1 That would ruin the true Cinta experience of burning my retinas.
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator Жыл бұрын
​@@pancakemixwithblueberriesinit Me when I play shadow corpse explosion in Diablo 4. Or the OG Prisma Excal. RIP.
@zenerstorm95
@zenerstorm95 Жыл бұрын
Also note: The Cinta also has a secondary fire mode. It's basically what the bow enemies in Duviri do where they jump backwards and shoot those explosive shots. It's useless due to it not scaling with mods. I personally use it for parkour to get me that little bit further.
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator Жыл бұрын
If only they had just given us the arrow rain.
@Boiled_Pizza
@Boiled_Pizza Жыл бұрын
i tried it and it doesn't have one
@FelisImpurrator
@FelisImpurrator Жыл бұрын
@@Boiled_Pizza It was removed because its inclusion was a bug. They accidentally copied an enemy attack over that was never meant to make it in.
@derpmorederp1417
@derpmorederp1417 11 ай бұрын
now that it's removed, try using aegrit on the secondary to replace the mines
@nershacreave6044
@nershacreave6044 Жыл бұрын
>"unless you intentionally aim *slightly* above heads" >proceeds to aim at the ceiling and hit the head in front
@eyywannn8601
@eyywannn8601 Жыл бұрын
The worst thing about the Cinta is the deeply unsatisfying sounds it has unlike the Nataruk that sounds like you’re shooting pure concussive force.
@dionl4292
@dionl4292 Жыл бұрын
You fire "pure concussive force" from your Naturuk? Mine first pure, unadulterated sin.
@o.o9825
@o.o9825 Жыл бұрын
Man, mine only fires disgruntled employees
@eyywannn8601
@eyywannn8601 Жыл бұрын
@@o.o9825 Oh, that’s the Tenet Arca Plasmor.
@dionl4292
@dionl4292 Жыл бұрын
@@o.o9825 How'd you even load them? I've always wanted to try "live" rounds! 😅
@josmith4832
@josmith4832 Жыл бұрын
Was waiting for you to make a video on this 😁
@TheRagnus
@TheRagnus Жыл бұрын
...But I still prefer Nataruk."
@Wooskii1
@Wooskii1 Жыл бұрын
Same
@avez6779
@avez6779 Жыл бұрын
This bow is a skill weapon… thats kinda why i like it. It rewards skill ALOT!!!
@Wooskii1
@Wooskii1 Жыл бұрын
@@avez6779 I feel ya, but I don't usually play Warframe to challenge myself (plenty of other games for that) Usually I just want to chill, farm, and murder ridiculous numbers of enemies.
@Ale_StrawHat
@Ale_StrawHat Жыл бұрын
i tried last week an heat inerit cinta with perfect shot for level cap but failed everytime cause i need ti find the right frame and never got time to do it cause of work but it works very well
@DarkmegaGaming
@DarkmegaGaming Жыл бұрын
11:00 yeeeah those blast waves are a doozy at the best of times.
@excaligaming2435
@excaligaming2435 Жыл бұрын
I really don't know what is, but the perfect shot window feels so wildly different from Nataruk's, as in it is much more inconsistent. I tried alot of fire rate setups, but it seems the skill ceiling for perfectly handling this bow is quite high. The most success so far, was with a maxed vile acceleration + 60% firerate from my riven, preparing Longbow sharpshoot not with a perfect shot, but with a charged shot, basically rotating charged and perfect to play around longbow sharpshoot when clearing packs.
@eronic_
@eronic_ Жыл бұрын
I think the easiest way is to stick to one fire rate and just learn the timings, instinctively let go rather than wait
@excaligaming2435
@excaligaming2435 Жыл бұрын
@@eronic_ Yea, I really tried that with so many different mod levels. with 150% fire rate I have a really short tap, which is the most consistent for me. Just r5 vile acc is so janky, I could swear the perfect shot doesn't go off, although I hit the spot. For reference, with the nataruk on ANY fire rate, I very very rarely miss the perfect shot. The timings on the mechanic really feels different on the Cinta.
@300y1
@300y1 Жыл бұрын
@@excaligaming2435 a fully maxed out charge on Nataruk (not in the perfect charge window), will still throw out the radial attack arrow. So it's even more forgiving than a Cinta
@lunarezlycablood1838
@lunarezlycablood1838 Жыл бұрын
if you have maxed longbow sharpshot, you could consider dropping bane on non-dot build for serration. It should be a small net damage gain and some comfy-ness on not swapping bane around, and net damage gain on enemies that have no bane against them (narmer and acolyte)
@MrOserios
@MrOserios Жыл бұрын
Unless you have another source of base dmg serration should be a bigger multiplier(2.65) than bane(1.55 raw or 2.4 dot), no? Edit: Nvm, bane(dot) + SP arcane = 11.04 is slightly better than serration + longbow = 10.6
@lunarezlycablood1838
@lunarezlycablood1838 Жыл бұрын
If you're using acolyte arcane and Hunter Munition bleed build, no, because they increase another 360% base damage additive to serration, so you end up with 6.25 multiplier and Bane double dip. With Bane + Primary Merciless, you get 7.13 multiplier, and for DoT 11.05~. But this is only apply to enemies that have bane to work with. if it's non-bane enemies you only get 4.6 multiplier. for Serration + Longbow Sharpshot, you get 10.6 on everything, with the additional comfy-ness in stacking the buff (You just need to do 1 headshot to proc it, no need in any kill) and it works on non-bane enemies, which are mostly something you want it dead ASAP. Edit : Just notice that it's not slightly drop in damage but slightly increase....so gonna edit to first post. Edit 2 : wrong number on serration build..
@kenshi4296
@kenshi4296 Жыл бұрын
It would be really usefull to know if these other builds also work with ensnare
@picherooxnanak5334
@picherooxnanak5334 5 ай бұрын
anyone, 10:25 how to use gunblade like that? I have highNoon but I can't do it.
@yasirabdulhakeem
@yasirabdulhakeem Жыл бұрын
Is longbow sharpshot a unique multiplicative damage multiplier, or is it addititive with any other increases? From the sound of it, Gun CO + Longbow Sharpshot = ~10.4x damage. Or am I missing something?
@10yee
@10yee Жыл бұрын
its a final 4x at max rank. do every single part of the damage calc first as usual then do 4x at the end, just like eclipse
@yasirabdulhakeem
@yasirabdulhakeem Жыл бұрын
@@10yee so it is a unique multiplier then. That's really good, and makes serration worth slotting in I guess
@wizardjenkins7627
@wizardjenkins7627 Жыл бұрын
@@yasirabdulhakeem Exactly, sometimes I justify putting amalgam serration on mostly for the extra sprint speed. But on weapons that have additive CO scaling the damage doesn't matter quite as much.
@noahedenborg4221
@noahedenborg4221 Жыл бұрын
longbow is literally eclipse
@lnkrishnan
@lnkrishnan Жыл бұрын
There it is, finally. Rightly said - it feels soooo much better and less punishing to use the Nataruk than the Cinta as far as the perfect shot mechanic is concerned - not sure why DE made it go only from 75-90% on the Cinta. Good you managed to specify R4 Vile for comfort (remember I'd asked and we confirmed on stream about it)
@Heavoc
@Heavoc 10 ай бұрын
Just play speed trigger instead of vile then, same but u dont lose 15% dmg
@lnkrishnan
@lnkrishnan 10 ай бұрын
​@@Heavocnope - at just 60%, Cinta feels soooooooooooo slow to nail the perfect shot. At 90% too fast to nail the perfect shot .. 75% IS the right mid-point. Remember, the perfect shot slot is much reduced on the Cinta - very small window. Outside it, the damage is ... not as good.
@Heavoc
@Heavoc 10 ай бұрын
i see, thanks@@lnkrishnan
@Sannidor
@Sannidor Жыл бұрын
Alt fire broken since release but since barely anyone has the weapon it's under-reported and neglected into fixing priority...
@averagejoegaming1045
@averagejoegaming1045 Жыл бұрын
I hope they do something cooler with the alt fire. Like the mines dropped are little vauban tethers or something would be dope. As it is, it does pitiful damage compared to shots lol
@eyywannn8601
@eyywannn8601 Жыл бұрын
I remember it dealt 20 damage fully modded against Chargers haha. Actually killed one lvl 195 in Simulacrum by using Ivara Navigator bug where it keeps firing until you stop Navigator.
@TankyCrobat
@TankyCrobat 2 ай бұрын
Only thing I dislike about the Cinta is because of a UI bug when charging. There are so many times where I fire and perfect shot reticle is smack dab in the middle and it doesn't perfect shot. So instead I usually undercharge, and it will perfect shot sometimes even when I am not within the perfect shot gauge.
@mori4703
@mori4703 Жыл бұрын
I initially farmed Cinta because it looked awesome, after tedious enigma grinding i finally got the bow and fired for the first time, and shit my jaw dropped when I saw the size of that thing
@Vedrlaufnir
@Vedrlaufnir Жыл бұрын
The only thing that keeps me from using Cinta is Wisp players. Nataruk's perfect and full shot are not that far away from each other damage wise, but Cinta's perfect shot is wildly different from full, and all you need is a Wisp player to ruin your primary. As far as I know we can't opt out of Wisp motes, which makes it even worse.
@smilyface4300
@smilyface4300 Жыл бұрын
Play solo
@Vedrlaufnir
@Vedrlaufnir Жыл бұрын
@@smilyface4300 On a multiplayer game?, where's the fun on that?
@smilyface4300
@smilyface4300 Жыл бұрын
@@Vedrlaufnir not getting you’re setups skewed. Also their is arguably more fun solo but to each their own.
@Vedrlaufnir
@Vedrlaufnir Жыл бұрын
@@smilyface4300 I mean, what's the point of playing solo an always online game with multiplayer?. What is this, Genshin Impact? They just need to give us the option to opt out of motes, just like you can do it for Volt's Speed by doing a backflip or Limbo's rift by just rolling.
@smilyface4300
@smilyface4300 Жыл бұрын
@@Vedrlaufnir if you play solo the game is offline and you can pause missions. The point is to each their own if you see no point in solo than that’s fine.
@rinz5027
@rinz5027 Жыл бұрын
Cinta and Nataruk both are allergic to additional fire rate buffs coz it'll mess up your timing of perfect shots string. I have experimented a lot as well and found that Nataruk is more forgiving on the perfect shot alone and easier to figure out the sweet spot fire rate, Cinta is a bit harder to fine tune. Vile acceleration also is where i ended up, though I am still bouncing between r4 and r5 Vile acceleration due to my innate skill issue lol. Though, for Longbow Sharpshot, I assume its always the case for any bows if there isn't any base dmg scaling mods in your build? I heard it was like the best Arcane for bows at this point, but I never fully understood why aside from the fact that it is apparently a multiplicative bonus.
@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
For most of the old school bows, they have additive GunCO scaling, whereas the new bows mostly have multiplicative GunCO scaling. This is important, because for longbow sharp shot to work well, you need base damage somewhere on your loadout. For old bows, this is easy, since you’d always slot either GunCO or Serration depending on how bugged the GunCO scaling is, despite it being additive. On the new bows, you frequently don’t have space to slot serration alongside GunCO, since GunCO is multiplicative on them and doesn’t give base damage. So either your base damage needs to come from your weapon arcane, which prevents you from running longbow sharp shot, or you skip GunCO for Serration and run longbow, or you source base damage from warframe arcanes (arcane rage, primary charger, arcane arachne), or you bring a frame that has base damage buffs (Revenant 1 augment, chroma, octavia). This actually makes rivens for the new bows very interesting, since rolls like Tox + (FR or Cold if Viral HM, or Elec if raw Corr) with a free negative will free up a slot to run Serration alongside GunCO, while still retaining a good enough fire rate bonus, and letting you run longbow
@rinz5027
@rinz5027 Жыл бұрын
@@Aznvasions Oohhhh that is very interesting. Maybe on the Incarnon Paris and Incarnon Dread, Longbow might be more valuable then. Though, the challenge for the new bows is that finding that riven for Cinta and Nataruk coz I am not spending plat just so I can utilize Longbow lol.
@shiro3874
@shiro3874 Жыл бұрын
@@Aznvasions hey azn thx for this i was actually wondering about how to properly use the longbow sharpshot. Now i can actually make my build function about better with this info
@yomanwtfisthisshit
@yomanwtfisthisshit Жыл бұрын
On console with fire rate borderline unplayable, the chargebar doesn't even synch to the correct timing when chaining shots. No perfect shots coming out regularily even when the chargebar showed literal perfect placing in the middle of the perfect window, or the other way around perfect shots happening when the bar showed you overdrawing.
@Nobody-iz8fg
@Nobody-iz8fg Жыл бұрын
How do you shoot to fast with vastilok on 10:42?
@eyywannn8601
@eyywannn8601 Жыл бұрын
Multiple speed mods and using the front combo (w+e)and neutral combo (e) successively. Definitely needs some practice to pull off consistently.
@traveler8224
@traveler8224 Жыл бұрын
Any upcoming saryn builds?
@McSmurfy
@McSmurfy Жыл бұрын
I just got this weapon and was looking for a build and is it better than the nataruk, perfect timing.
@ElloKyoko2
@ElloKyoko2 Жыл бұрын
if i dont have a primary that i use for sp duviri exp and cinta is available ill pick it. the auto mod setup 3 shots the rings
@omgeeitslexi
@omgeeitslexi 9 ай бұрын
what’s the intro song lol
@mehrzadd80
@mehrzadd80 Жыл бұрын
What is that opening song you played
@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
Nightcore - Dreamer (BEAUZ & Heleen Remix)
@m3rc743
@m3rc743 Жыл бұрын
You finally did it
@adriansue8955
@adriansue8955 Жыл бұрын
Split Flights waiting for DE to remember Split Flights Exists and disable it for Cinta Pretty sure considering the widespread QA oversights in Duviri, they just forgot to set the mod restriction
@orunsir8394
@orunsir8394 11 ай бұрын
Why is the Cinta so bad against Acolytes? Haven't bothered to farm it yet so I haven't tried it in SP.
@noahedenborg4221
@noahedenborg4221 Жыл бұрын
so breach surge gets efffected by rift torret and it works pretty well
@jakeharrison207
@jakeharrison207 Жыл бұрын
I just tested it and the cinta perfect shot absolutely does not headshot. This is assuming this is not a big related to missions specifically (I tested in the simulacrum). Obviously the full charge does because it’s not AOE.
@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
You have to aim above their heads. Imagine trying to headshot with Plasmor. Aiming at the head will make the shot hit the body first. The perfect shot also is not an aoe. It’s just a fat projectile.
@jakeharrison207
@jakeharrison207 Жыл бұрын
@@Aznvasions lmao that’s so stupid. I wonder if this was done on purpose or not as it’s very out of character for them. I mean I don’t see how it could be an accident but idk.
@derpmorederp1417
@derpmorederp1417 9 ай бұрын
Headshots refresh deadhead
@colegillgrass3373
@colegillgrass3373 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the cinta hits like a wet noodle in comparison even with the bigger aoe.
@cornhole8839
@cornhole8839 Жыл бұрын
build issue my friend.
@colegillgrass3373
@colegillgrass3373 Жыл бұрын
​@@cornhole8839 nah weapon just feels like shit to use. Most of the time, atleast for what i play the larger projectile doesnt make a difference, and the nataruk just alwyas works, even when overcharged it still does respectable damage and has a large projectile.
@_WetSand
@_WetSand Жыл бұрын
It would be nice if that damn owl gave the blueprint for it
@ChromaticJester
@ChromaticJester Жыл бұрын
That group one shot with cinta took 10 years
@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
It takes the exact same amount of time for Nataruk to do that, and Nataruk can only do that on Gas.
@ChromaticJester
@ChromaticJester Жыл бұрын
@@Aznvasions I meant you recording it while streaming 😆
@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
@@ChromaticJester ah yes it wasn’t behaving properly, as always, when you’re trying to get footage
@opticalbeast4947
@opticalbeast4947 6 ай бұрын
Im pretty sure Longbow Sharpshot still works the same on Cinta
@ddssrr1614
@ddssrr1614 Жыл бұрын
That thing was a super pain to farm.
@barondigo8098
@barondigo8098 Жыл бұрын
I like cinta, bacause of how it looks
@redcor8373
@redcor8373 Жыл бұрын
The akimbo bows: Cinta + Nataruk!
@Gabriel-km3ij
@Gabriel-km3ij Жыл бұрын
But can it make a grilled cheesse?... (Hunt eidolons)
@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
It’s actually a pretty decent Eidolons bow. But I would never recommend doing that on purpose except for fun, shits and giggles. Hunting with bows is not that good QoL-wise in Eidolons.
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Жыл бұрын
Isn't DE going to Nerf the Cinta anyway.... It was never Confirmed that the Headshot multiplier was Intentional....
@ThePopeOfAwesomeness
@ThePopeOfAwesomeness Жыл бұрын
While it may be better than the nat, the MIGHTY SEER is the best
@kurokaizen1889
@kurokaizen1889 Жыл бұрын
Trash.
@theleoshowm3010
@theleoshowm3010 Жыл бұрын
Amen
@teknyon
@teknyon Жыл бұрын
I think you’ve been doing this for years and it’s kinda impressive how far you’ve spread this comment
@ThePopeOfAwesomeness
@ThePopeOfAwesomeness Жыл бұрын
@@teknyon yeah it's been a long time haha. Thankyou
@lookalike4805
@lookalike4805 Жыл бұрын
True Dedication.... It truly is Awesome
@deuterium2718
@deuterium2718 11 ай бұрын
60% perfect shot crit >.> needs avenger .> beeg arrow with some pretty silly numbers from time to time tho
@Kilesfactor
@Kilesfactor Жыл бұрын
If only if I could get the Cinta :V
@xslite300
@xslite300 Жыл бұрын
buy the other parts it's annoying to farm
@Kilesfactor
@Kilesfactor Жыл бұрын
@@xslite300 I got two parts in one run after only doing 3 puzzles. Then yesterday, I had a 2 hour run, doing about 8 puzzles only to get another bp :p My luck is just not good and I see that it will come down to just buying the parts :v
@xslite300
@xslite300 Жыл бұрын
@@Kilesfactor that happened to me, got tons of the same parts so i just gave up
@generalrexgresh
@generalrexgresh Жыл бұрын
Nateruke feels better. I can get my perfect shots off better for some reason. I can't get them constantly with the cinta and Ive messed with the various fire rate mods.
@TiredDoktor6391
@TiredDoktor6391 Жыл бұрын
Man, don't you like power creep and bad balancing?
@Darthmufin
@Darthmufin Жыл бұрын
"But if you're a sweat.." god, not that cringe term again
@rahimiaizat8648
@rahimiaizat8648 4 ай бұрын
Aku hanya cintakan pada mu puteri kesayanganku
@MrJarvisful
@MrJarvisful Жыл бұрын
Thats a big bow
@jordanmcminn998
@jordanmcminn998 Жыл бұрын
You seriously downplay orange and red crits especially when there is so many ways to get crit chance. This is a huge positive for nataruk
@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
What matters is the number on the screen, not the colour of the crits. If anything, a Cinta going from yellow to orange crits is a bigger dps increase than Nataruk going from orange to red crits, or red to red2. Numbers matter more than the color.
@jordanmcminn998
@jordanmcminn998 Жыл бұрын
@@Aznvasions but it's easier to hit higher tiers with the nataruk because of its higher cc. Many people mirror that just reaching 100%cc is all you need and it puzzles me as some weapons can reach orange and red crits quite easily. Not saying you are wrong, just down playing crits above 100%. Many meta players and KZfaqrs do mirror the same idea as you.
@Aznvasions
@Aznvasions Жыл бұрын
@@jordanmcminn998 this is fundamentally due to weapons not benefitting from CD fully until they hit at least 100%cc. The difference between not critting and critting is huge. The different between yellow crits and orange crits isn’t even a 2x total damage increase. Going from orange to red isn’t even a 1.5x total damage increase. Whereas going from white to yellow is very often a 4.4 - 6.6x total damage increase. It’s the standard concept of diminishing returns. Once you have too much crit chance, you get more damage by investing into more crit damage, or more status, or more elementals, or multishot or fire rate, etc. It’s the same reason why you don’t use Serration with the old school 3 weapon arcanes unless you’re using an AoE weapon…because Serration stacked with weapon arcanes makes Serration incredibly weak as a damage contributor. The reference point is I’m already using optimal Nataruk builds for comparison in the video showcases. The Cinta was doing more damage on a yellow crit than the Nataruk was doing with mixed oranges and reds, every single time.
@jordanmcminn998
@jordanmcminn998 Жыл бұрын
@@Aznvasions I always assumed a weapon with 100%cc and 4x cd= 400% dmg and 200%cc and 4x cd would be 800%. Is this wrong? I understand diminished returns but is damage from crits and diminished returns applied directly to that calculation? When you say it isn't even 2x from yellow to orange do you mean 2x the cd amount or overall damage? As always appreciate your replies.
@jordanmcminn998
@jordanmcminn998 Жыл бұрын
You actually responding to us in a respectful way is the reason why I watch you and pretty much no other WF KZfaqrs so thank you.
@haikalhalim4329
@haikalhalim4329 Ай бұрын
me who only use Dread (i’m so cooked)
@darrionrobinson8553
@darrionrobinson8553 Жыл бұрын
Cool but Natty go boom and kill da bad mens
@ayato2637
@ayato2637 Жыл бұрын
Harrow with cinta🤕🤯
@Attackni
@Attackni Жыл бұрын
Hi
@M_R.b
@M_R.b Жыл бұрын
Heard Paris prime incarnon better than nataruk
@TylR3gor
@TylR3gor 5 ай бұрын
You heard wrong 🙄
@M_R.b
@M_R.b 5 ай бұрын
@@TylR3gor stopped playing
@TylR3gor
@TylR3gor 5 ай бұрын
@@M_R.b get back to it then 🥸
@M_R.b
@M_R.b 5 ай бұрын
@@TylR3gor I'll get back to it okay
@TylR3gor
@TylR3gor 5 ай бұрын
@@M_R.b 👍
@VampirusX1
@VampirusX1 Жыл бұрын
Cinta? Add an S and you have the Uniform Washing Company name 😂
@kylzepolaczkowaty2197
@kylzepolaczkowaty2197 Жыл бұрын
Its the alt fire
@rizal2175
@rizal2175 Жыл бұрын
the name of the weapon sounds/looks like Indonesian word 😂
@nikalopez8448
@nikalopez8448 5 ай бұрын
I do 5 mil damage with natiiiy
@marlonese
@marlonese Жыл бұрын
I'm not gonna lie, the nataruk is better than the cinta and nothing you say will convince me otherwise
@potatosalad3655
@potatosalad3655 Жыл бұрын
Nataruk hits like a truck Cinta hits like a wet noodle
@flowerofash4439
@flowerofash4439 Ай бұрын
warframe players are not known for high effort, that is why this weapon is so rare. if it require more than two braincells to use then they will just trash it
@RichHimes-sd1nj
@RichHimes-sd1nj Жыл бұрын
no it's not
@DE_shen
@DE_shen Жыл бұрын
Pin or *Say that to my Face*
@RichHimes-sd1nj
@RichHimes-sd1nj Жыл бұрын
if you need to watch a video to understand a weapon it isn't good
@AEspiral
@AEspiral Жыл бұрын
wokeframe
@Xanthro2
@Xanthro2 Жыл бұрын
Its sad that DE makes weapons like these.. If it wasnt so annoying to get this thing, every pleb would be runnin around with it cuz A: Teh new hawtness, B: truck size arrows, C: Muh incarn heurrrr. I hate the warframe community some times :D Thank you for the entertaining videos though!
@Ayzev
@Ayzev Жыл бұрын
What weapons DE makes isn't the community's fault
@Xanthro2
@Xanthro2 Жыл бұрын
@@Ayzev Thanks for confirming why I hate the community... Please stop drooling on the keyboard when typing.
@Ayzev
@Ayzev Жыл бұрын
@@Xanthro2 Make sense please
@Xanthro2
@Xanthro2 Жыл бұрын
@@Ayzev Why not try reading then next time... Oh, just like the rest of the wf "community" you don't know how.
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