Warframe - The New War | The Drifter meets the Operator, Dinner in Zaruman - No commentary

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2 жыл бұрын

With the Lotus now gone once again, the Operator heads to the Zariman in the Void and follows a shadowy figure. As both of them sit down for dinner, a choice has to be made...
The Theory of Eternalism seems to be in play here as the Drifter seems to be a version of the Operator which got stuck in the Zariman 10-0 and didn't accept the help of The Man in the Wall.
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@christianyaerger1751
@christianyaerger1751 2 жыл бұрын
Sooo can somebody explain what exactly is happening here? Operator and Drifter are linked by way of... fate, or Eternalism? And the Zariman is the intersection between these two worlds. And only one of them can exist in this reality/timeline at a time?...
@kitkat12326
@kitkat12326 2 жыл бұрын
From my interpretation, they are "assigned" a timeline, they cannot cross over without...well, destroying reality. Since the Void is unreality, I see it as the MITW made a deal with the Tenno on the Zariman to merge the timelines so they can both exist.
@dragonlord3376
@dragonlord3376 2 жыл бұрын
In other words, yes, they're stuck in a kind of Schrodinger's cat situation where both simultaneously exist and don't exist, which is why you only see one at any given time. How this happened? No clue, maybe they were just both in the void at the same time and got mixed up. The zariman was probably either a manifestation of the void, a "fill in the blank" in the operator's mind, or the actual zariman from the drifter's timeline, which never got rescued from the void, and serves as a middleground where you can give physics the finger.
@Fallout4277
@Fallout4277 2 жыл бұрын
@@dragonlord3376 this is how I like to look at it basically it's a Schrodinger's cat situation like you said but the zariman 10-0 is the box that they are locked in and our universe with the operator he shook the man in the walls hand and he got rescued but in Drifters Universe he didn't shake the man-wolves hand so he didn't get his powers a lot but he still had them and he never got rescued how the hell he escaped I have no idea
@danielnelmes5848
@danielnelmes5848 2 жыл бұрын
Eternalism, they both exist by way of a multiverse but cannot co-exist inside of the same universe, thats why the Drifter started to glow, as it's a paradox to have two of the same person present in one universe at any given time, only one of them can be present at a time, with the void being a gateway between universes and time being of no value. They are 2 sides of the same coin (hence why the Drifter inherits the voids power later through the Operators deal with TMITW) and therefore cannot exist one without the other. They cannot coexist in the same universe and also not exist as one must always be present, the universe can't not have a Tenno. When the Lotus and Operator got sucked into the void that created another paradox: one of non existence for the Tenno, as the void does not represent time. As this is not possible in a universe that measures time and the Tenno always has been this allowed a connection to the other side of the coin, the Drifter, and brought them into the universe as the Operators replacement. How they found the Lotus and how they know about her and the Operator remains to be confirmed but I theorize that as the void acts like a doorway swinging both ways that this actually may be another version of the Lotus altogether, either that or the Drifter just happened to catch her on the way through the door. In any case I am positive the knowledge of everything was given to the Drifter by Ordis. For the Operator, as I understand it, it was mere seconds that passed from them getting sucked into the void to when they reemerged in the Drifters place against the Lotus after lashing out from absorbing the 2nd Archons power, and again as both the Operator and Drifter cannot coexist in one universe thats why the Drifter vanished back to their own. Its why the Drifter only knows so much about whats going on as they were transferred over only after Ballas rose to power, so they wont know the full history of what happened and only know that the Lotus is dying and needs help and also why the Operator seems confused because everything kind of just happened in the blink of an eye. If at the end of the quest you customize the Operator you notice an option to select the Drifter which seems to be like a portal and two hands connecting, and you can switch them at any time between missions. I would think the Zariman is also between reality and the void if you look at it upon the Operators arrival, thats why the connection for a meeting is possible for a short time there.
@Fallout4277
@Fallout4277 2 жыл бұрын
@@danielnelmes5848 The operator: I wish I never discovered the fucking Multiverse my life used to be so simple The drifter: you get used to it
@kingatlanofatlantis3075
@kingatlanofatlantis3075 2 жыл бұрын
8:44 that’s the best “The Fuck?” Face ever😂
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂 He be like: "Should've paid attention in that Eterna-whatever class earlier"
@Mate397
@Mate397 2 жыл бұрын
@@OnePunchSponge Mine did, acing the test but anyone would be in a state of WTF in such a situation.
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mate397 haha. Well we all know what happens when the smart kid says WTF in a scenario. We all done for.
@vincentalastor6315
@vincentalastor6315 Жыл бұрын
Seeing this face is also the best "I'm so confused rn" or "Idk how to process this" or "trying to wrap my head around this" 😂😂😂
@shotgun6125
@shotgun6125 Жыл бұрын
*finally remembers what the cephalon was babbling about 100,000,000,000 years ago (which considering everyone’s enhanced longevity is probably an accurate estimate)* “It was just a fuckin THEORY!!!!”
@x_NB3
@x_NB3 2 жыл бұрын
8:44 that one problem on a test that the teacher didn't even teach 😂
@Mate397
@Mate397 2 жыл бұрын
Oh you clearly didn't pay attention, in YOUR timeline it wasn't mentioned but in the other timeline's version of you knew about it, duh :P
@SomeRandoGuy
@SomeRandoGuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mate397 lol
@Crashbmaster0
@Crashbmaster0 2 жыл бұрын
Female drifter sounds like she has spent her years on drugs to cope with the shit. Male drifter sounds like he's done with his shit and is tired of everything.
@Arcaman2000
@Arcaman2000 2 жыл бұрын
Heron is amazing tho.
@FacelessHood
@FacelessHood 2 жыл бұрын
Your Drifter's voice when he's aggressive sounds like Shadow the hedgehog
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I wouldn't have been able to make that comparison XD And now I'm watching an entire playthrough of the game
@superjj1850
@superjj1850 10 ай бұрын
He sounds like Jesse Pinkman
@ODSTD56
@ODSTD56 Жыл бұрын
I know Angels of Zariman happens after New War but I also see that the Operator falling into the void after being stabbed caused the Zariman to begin breaking through the Void which is why Drifter then is allowed into Operator's universe to continue the fight.
@Al_ost
@Al_ost 2 жыл бұрын
My drifter looked so diferent from my operator it took me more 2 hrs into the quest to understand who the fuck the drifter was
@FacelessHood
@FacelessHood 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@shotgun6125
@shotgun6125 Жыл бұрын
My operator has a white eye glow and when TNW came out he had the ONE hairstyle they hadn’t included for drifter. So when the hood came off all i saw was a bald head and eyes that I could reasonably assume were glitched with the graphics. It took me opening the customization settings and seeing the eye glow settings to understand just what the hell was going on
@Darkfiro0
@Darkfiro0 8 ай бұрын
Mine had a Different skin tone, hair style and eye colour. So when the Drifter Hood was removed. My reaction was "Who the hell is this suppose to be." Best part missed the char customization for the Drifter in the quest eventually I manage to figure it out via Ordis convo.
@novoice9286
@novoice9286 Жыл бұрын
8:45 me trying to understand warframes god damn lore
@gaymohammed3137
@gaymohammed3137 9 ай бұрын
I have a spoiler for you. DON'T! Im playing this game for nearly 10 years. The lore is a Swiss cheese that gets even changed and rewritten to fit certain things into it. Some story strings seem to permanently connect to each other but most of the story is a mess. After the war within quests get kinda out of hand and due to that the lore stretches further and further. I'm curious what they will be doing next with the man in the wall, seems like they are building up something that will just open more questions and not answer a single thing.
@mynameisanmo6654
@mynameisanmo6654 5 ай бұрын
Lore is a little confusing just understand the concept of eternalism in the game that theres not always one path theres always other paths look at it as multiverse or alternate universes where that other option happend
@lachlanlevitt9540
@lachlanlevitt9540 2 жыл бұрын
I just realised that the zariman part of the new war is just a insight to the angels of the zariman
@10-years-in-the-joint
@10-years-in-the-joint 2 жыл бұрын
As the Drifter once said, "No shit!"
@sdbegotist
@sdbegotist 2 жыл бұрын
The Owl voice is noticeably better with this update, at least with this mission
@humanratteler9760
@humanratteler9760 2 жыл бұрын
100% agreed
@jacoryarnett7347
@jacoryarnett7347 2 жыл бұрын
The (old) kid owl voice sounds black and now all the sudden this (new) owl voice made my black tenno kid or adult sound white.
@Exo49r
@Exo49r 2 жыл бұрын
The owl voice is a very underrated tenno voice
@eu5553
@eu5553 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacoryarnett7347 same with me
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
Totally!
@jaser00
@jaser00 Жыл бұрын
8:53 Now i understand after the duviri quest
@SZero07
@SZero07 9 ай бұрын
With duviri paradox that scene has more sense and hits more hardly. For all the torture he recieve in duviri.
@lazygillard4122
@lazygillard4122 Жыл бұрын
Oooo just realising now the stuck but not here thingy, was a reference to the duviri paradox. Linking again with, can't be harder than riding a horse... Oooo this is gunna be fun and filled with content
@der_saftmon
@der_saftmon Жыл бұрын
I also heard the Drifter say: "Should've stayed in Duviri." Maybe it was a random voiceline,but it made sense for me, who played Duviri before the new war.
@rafabuda0
@rafabuda0 Жыл бұрын
​@@der_saftmon it's not random, it's Drifter's line when they have to approach the Sun to reach Ballas's ship
@der_saftmon
@der_saftmon Жыл бұрын
@@rafabuda0 thank you for the clarification. I wouldn't have know otherwise.
@chaoticdelta_playz
@chaoticdelta_playz Жыл бұрын
I'm laughing at the "who dis?" part. Lmao😂
@robsquare2622
@robsquare2622 Жыл бұрын
I wish DE thought to make a bunch of operator only mini games and things accessible by the dormitory just so itd be full of operators like it used to be.
@casinoqedan
@casinoqedan Жыл бұрын
i come from the future and i have to say "xd"
@bgshok5841
@bgshok5841 9 ай бұрын
Well well welll , the void of future has answered
@James-9999
@James-9999 2 жыл бұрын
“The choice” that will change nothing
@AndroidNoir-L06k
@AndroidNoir-L06k 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like its not about the ingame choice as much as its your 'the player' choices to make, because DE got a lot of request to make the operator a big boy and girl and the other half still want to play as a child. I feel like this is the best outcome they could have done, you can't please both side so why not let them choose instead.
@myfriendscallmejojo
@myfriendscallmejojo Жыл бұрын
Your shallow
@danielf7473
@danielf7473 6 ай бұрын
Oh, I thought it was going a game-changing decision. 😅
@motsu9497
@motsu9497 2 жыл бұрын
i wish we got to keep the drifter operator equipment as 3 and 4 abilities :(
@Catshapedblobofdarkness
@Catshapedblobofdarkness Жыл бұрын
@motsu9497 Do i have news for you
@iamablackman9848
@iamablackman9848 2 жыл бұрын
love the operator lol
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
Slenderman (in the wall) sends his regards XD
@MadBoyChes
@MadBoyChes Ай бұрын
8:44 i love that look because imo he is pretty much going "bruh i am a kid i dunno what the hell is going on"
@x_NB3
@x_NB3 2 жыл бұрын
The damn whistling gives me re6 jake muller vibes 😂❤🔥🔥
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy
@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy 2 жыл бұрын
Bank those motes, and I'll make you rich brothah!!!
@spooky_4624
@spooky_4624 2 жыл бұрын
6:37 Duviri Paradox👀
@lolbots686
@lolbots686 29 күн бұрын
So for those confused on whats going on this is how i at least understand it. The drifter and operator are the same beings,but there timelines diverged during the accident with the zariman,and because of how it works,one of the 2 has to stay when the other is out in the timeline of the game so to speak. I think thats how it works but could be wrong
@hellobralface884
@hellobralface884 2 жыл бұрын
So I've been watching some people playing this part, and I realized that the color of the portrait of ur parents and their clothes are different. For me, it was a green-blue, but I saw another video were the color was red, now urs it's Grey. I'm thinking if the focus school we pick after second dream change what the uniform color of our parents will be or if is just random
@voidheart8696
@voidheart8696 2 жыл бұрын
Good catch
@_12k70
@_12k70 2 жыл бұрын
The hair color of your operator defines the hair color of the mother, the uniform Idk, maybe energy color
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
@@_12k70 Yeah this could be the case.
@MSDTADarthRevan
@MSDTADarthRevan 2 жыл бұрын
I notice is the colors i use in my operator the colors of the parents clothes was red with blue, and the hair of the mom was purple like my operator.
@mhel6948
@mhel6948 3 ай бұрын
11:26 the most subtle duviri easter egg
@theexurian1079
@theexurian1079 Жыл бұрын
And then there is the other you! The Thrax you! eternalism!
@VitchAndVorty
@VitchAndVorty 7 ай бұрын
Every update gave more questions than answers...
@esbernhawkins5912
@esbernhawkins5912 4 ай бұрын
Finished The New War a week ago, and I realized my brainrot for this game has reached an all-time peak the other day when I caught myself saying "Excuse ME" in the same tone as Ordis at 10:48
@ex0_trix
@ex0_trix Жыл бұрын
Still very confused by all this and I completed this quest like 5 months ago
@savathunthejudge914
@savathunthejudge914 2 жыл бұрын
That sound......the tune...duviri
@Mate397
@Mate397 2 жыл бұрын
Oh God that visual bug...
@Payday907
@Payday907 2 жыл бұрын
Man I want this quest
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
Its pretty neat! I hope you get it soon if you haven't yet :)
@cooptionalxb1
@cooptionalxb1 5 ай бұрын
I wish there was an incentive to replay the quests (other than fun or using fashioned characters in the cutscenes.)
@crimzin5637
@crimzin5637 Жыл бұрын
This makes sense the drifter was stuck in duviri
@MSDTADarthRevan
@MSDTADarthRevan 2 жыл бұрын
Que bugazo con ese viajero XD
@16ipm
@16ipm 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, im going to politely ask for that face configuration for the drifter.
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
Here you go, sir! If you were asking for 10:21 - ...its a mistake. I *swear* I'm not capable of creating such a beautiful thing haha. The one at 7:16 - its the last option for the primary face and the second one for the secondary face. The blend is almost 80% of the way to the right. As for hair, its one of the default ones with the "hair part" enabled. Eye color - Outer: Light Red (from Valentine), Inner: Light Blue (from Transmission)
@RubyRoseStacia
@RubyRoseStacia Жыл бұрын
I wana watch this so bad but I’m so close to being able to play it myself so I don’t want spoilers. I built the railjack and have the blueprint for the frame you need but now I just have to gather all the parts and craft it which may take some time /:
@HarperLylia
@HarperLylia Жыл бұрын
Best of luck! It's an interesting story for sure
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge Жыл бұрын
Haha, I feel ya! This is a really nice quest. Hope you enjoy it :)
@infernogaming7923
@infernogaming7923 2 ай бұрын
I'm finally doing it now and by god I can't even sit down for more than an hour because it's giving me a headache it's a lot of information to take in at once 🤣
@Mathematicus671
@Mathematicus671 4 ай бұрын
So... what if... all player Tenno... are the same Tenno coexisting all at once by a previously decreed form of eternalism... My head hurts
@dragondelsur5156
@dragondelsur5156 7 күн бұрын
There was more than 1 kid in the Zariman, did it?
@zionbard9922
@zionbard9922 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that’s the drifter that’s Wally
@RitoOrbitt
@RitoOrbitt Жыл бұрын
cool so these were bugged for me and i could only see operator and not the drifter
@rafin.
@rafin. Жыл бұрын
yess
@angeluss28
@angeluss28 2 жыл бұрын
How the hell did we knew where the Zariman was????
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
Now, I could be completely wrong but for all I know the Zariman was retrieved when it emerged from the void. It just isn't there on the star chart for us as players. I can only speculate (and hope) that the Zariman 10-0 becomes the hub world for the Duviri Paradox. (It'll be a shame if all that beautiful art is only there for this one quest)
@danielnelmes5848
@danielnelmes5848 2 жыл бұрын
@@OnePunchSponge That would be nice, but I reckon its more like the gateway between the Operators universe and the Drifters universe as its only partly emerged from the void. Might just be clickable art to switch from solar system to duviri
@whitejester
@whitejester 2 жыл бұрын
We didn’t, someone stole us from our time and brought us there
@x_NB3
@x_NB3 2 жыл бұрын
10:20 😭😂
@actionsgameOn
@actionsgameOn 5 ай бұрын
I can't wait to play the battle where by Bella's the main bad how to stop with a sacrifice we have a long year of the how to know when it's going to happen to escape from the American people the owner who wants it and took him like 4 years and we had to make excuse on Umber Excalibur To saying uh uh coughing we need it. And also remember the game updated to I'm seeking out see if it's umbra Frost coming cuz I heard that I make umber Frost that's why I was like what is the difference between it's hard to get them really super hard to get them and wanted a few.
@uncleruckus3008
@uncleruckus3008 Жыл бұрын
Your drifter looks seedy asf ngl
@ernestjohn18
@ernestjohn18 2 жыл бұрын
Good lord, that neck is too long! 10:20
@Migueruzo
@Migueruzo 2 жыл бұрын
I can use my kid operator clothes why? and you can
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably a bug. I can't use them afterwards either.
@MSDTADarthRevan
@MSDTADarthRevan 2 жыл бұрын
Bugframe bro XD
@lazygillard4122
@lazygillard4122 Жыл бұрын
But honestly, who chose the operator? I know I didn't lmao
@YOURteacher_100
@YOURteacher_100 Жыл бұрын
I did, has to finish what I started
@Hk-ox4bb
@Hk-ox4bb 11 ай бұрын
I did, Lotus saved the Operator, not the Drifter, the Operator is the one attached to her who has a personal history with her
@Darkfiro0
@Darkfiro0 8 ай бұрын
I did since my Drifter didn't even resemble my Operator at all and I missed the Drifter customization in the quest to fix him.
@SeenAGreatLight
@SeenAGreatLight 5 ай бұрын
It was a tough decision, but I went with my Operator. I figured the corrupted Lotus would have a better chance of recognizing him, and he would get to finish the mission he failed.
@dragondelsur5156
@dragondelsur5156 7 күн бұрын
I did, the Operator knows a lot more about what's going on.
@icebergwalrus7775
@icebergwalrus7775 Жыл бұрын
did anyone pick opeartor over drifter ????, haven't seen it yet
@ethanvorn5153
@ethanvorn5153 Жыл бұрын
I did my first run
@sadgallington7850
@sadgallington7850 5 ай бұрын
Well, I did and most of people on reddit. It was along the lines of "it has happened so much stuff between the operator and lotus, it felt right to let the operator finish it all". Meanwhile the drifter was someone who didn't have story with lotus and just crossed paths with her type of reasoning.
@TheFormActually
@TheFormActually 2 жыл бұрын
My man, the more I watch New War quest more I realize how dumb it is. Drifter not remembering Ballas' name, when you were just going through levels with his effin hologram floating all over the place...
@mikzpwnz_3199
@mikzpwnz_3199 2 жыл бұрын
They can save it if it's just a what the drifter's been doing the entire time saving different timelines from the big bad of the week when an operator's out of commission due to whatever (how when we seem to die as operator it seems like nothing happens at all?) And he's been doing that the entire time. That then it would seem to make sense as to him, ballas is just another villain of the week that we somehow messed up in offing. It's probably something that they won't clear up in the Duviri Paradox. It may also be the drifter's personality to just not give a damn about much apart from what he thinks he feels like he's supposed to do as it's at least better than being stuck on the Zariman all the time.
@AndroidNoir-L06k
@AndroidNoir-L06k 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikzpwnz_3199 I too would be cynical if I got stuck in a world that is not my own and stop giving a bullet about what is going to happen next, the drifter is just so done and only do what he must because he can and because he should. Remember that one mission where ordis keep saying that the drifter is walking into a death trap and they just like "Its going to be fine." and "what could possibly go wrong?", we don't know what the drifter had to go through while they lived their in the paradox.
@shotgun6125
@shotgun6125 Жыл бұрын
@@mikzpwnz_3199based on the Duviri Paradox preview, he’s probably just glad this evil dictator isn’t an all-powerful being in the realm. Plus Dominus Thrax probably made him fight a shitload of other villains so probably the only significant thing about Ballas is that he can’t confirm whether or not he’s under Thrax’ thumb
@HotcupofJoe38
@HotcupofJoe38 Жыл бұрын
I pretend to forget the names of people I don't like all the time lmao, I took it as sarcasm🤌
@DawnAfternoon
@DawnAfternoon Жыл бұрын
I thought that communicated that Drifter never met Ballas. They didn't get rescued, so Ballas never really entered their life.
@Tzaxoo
@Tzaxoo 11 ай бұрын
What planet is this quest on
@dragondelsur5156
@dragondelsur5156 7 күн бұрын
Mission codex
@viskar1477
@viskar1477 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t manage to create something more than a strange abomination with an adult male operator. How did you do that? All the faces look ugly for me to say the least, unlike the female variations
@OnePunchSponge
@OnePunchSponge Жыл бұрын
First of all, apologies for the very late reply ("^.^) This is the face config I'm using: For the face, its the last option for the primary face and the second one for the secondary face. The blend is almost 80% of the way to the right. As for hair, its one of the default ones with the "hair part" enabled. Eye color - Outer: Light Red (from Valentine), Inner: Light Blue (from Transmission)
@takkipusa6910
@takkipusa6910 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen better animations from amateur 3d animators but it sure does belong to the trademark animation style of digital extremes
@nephilim8559
@nephilim8559 2 жыл бұрын
I was expecting the drifter to have new unique movement animations but they just used the default warframe movement animations on him/her 😭
@LesserOfTwoWeevils
@LesserOfTwoWeevils Жыл бұрын
yikes the operator
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