Wargaming: India vs Pakistan

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The potential conflict between India and Pakistan stands at a precipice of alarming complexity, as the two nuclear-armed neighbours navigate a tangled web of historical tensions, territorial disputes, and geopolitical ambitions, and with India's rapidly evolving military capabilities and strategic partnerships, the landscape of South Asian defence dynamics is shifting. The theoretical pitfalls of a confrontation between these nations would have far-reaching implications, not just for the subcontinent, but for the global order. From cyber warfare to conventional battles, what would a war between India and Pakistan entail? We ask our panel of experts to unpack the scenarios, strategies, and stakes posed by this conflict:
On the panel this week:
- Chris Clary (Uni of Albany)
- Arzan Tarapore (CISC)
- Christine Fair (Georgetown)
Intro - 00:00
PART 1 - 03:01
PART 2 - 30:40
PART 3 - 53:51
Outro - 1:13:51
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@jongxina4908 4 ай бұрын

Why the hell would we as indians want to invade zombieland? I'm satisfied with the current percentage of zomies here. Won't want to jeopardize the development of nation by increasing their percentage.

@libshastra 9 ай бұрын

You can't talk about Indian procurement without mentioning 3 (disjointed) decades of tech denial and sanctions. Christine Faire is an South Asian expert, she should have mentioned this.

@libshastra 9 ай бұрын

T-90s are actually pretty good for the Himalayan cold. The Indian Army managed to get one on top of Rezang La during the Galwan crisis. So Armored Strike Corp in the Himalayas is very much possible. Depsang Plains is Tank territory.

@syedadeelhussain2691 9 ай бұрын

Are there any lessons to be drawn from the Arab-Israeli War of 1973, where the tank battles took place in the Sinai Peninsula? Those Soviet-supplied Sagger ATGMs made the IDF Tanks turn upside down. China has sophisticated anti-tank weapons which can wreak havoc on Indian MBTs.

@beluga9596 9 ай бұрын

@@syedadeelhussain2691while there can be various lessons drawn from those tank battles , what makes the situation different is that most Indian tanks are customised or Jerry rigged to ensure that they can face both fronts : Chinese and Pakistani.

@syedadeelhussain2691 9 ай бұрын

@@beluga9596 Most of the Indian tanks lack night optical vision. Also, the performance of the Russian MBTs in the Ukraine war will surely have some policy lessons for the Indian Army.

@libshastra 9 ай бұрын

@@syedadeelhussain2691 that's very outdated info. The Indian T-90 are equipped with Thales sights. The same one used on Challengers.

@Bryce-yw8hf 9 ай бұрын

I was thinking that he meant more along the lines that the Himalayas arent a kind of terrain in which MBTs can manuver easily in and not that T-90s were particuarly unsuited to it or anything.

@kaustubh14jr 8 ай бұрын

The best way to surprise pakistan is an amphibious assualt via sea. First launch the feint in punjab and rajashtan. Once forces are drawn away. Launch amphibious assualt via the sea.

@ianshaver8954 8 ай бұрын

Not enough sealift capacity.

@kaustubh14jr 8 ай бұрын

@@ianshaver8954 Navy is building it up. It won't require a lot of soldiers 10k should be enough. I think we have to capacity to hold the supply lines.

@prateeksharma6706 4 ай бұрын

Problem is that there is no place to retreat if anything goes wrong

@widodoakrom3938 9 ай бұрын

Great

@Tewhill357 9 ай бұрын

Wait, I thought this was going to be about the cricket. Sorry, I'll just let myself out. . .

@ebrimajallow9631 9 ай бұрын

Me too 😢

@syedadeelhussain2691 9 ай бұрын

hahaha ;)

@libshastra 9 ай бұрын

I disagree with Christine's assessment regarding diversity of arms suppliers. This is one of those directional right, fundamentally wrong statements. So sourcing and integrating various arms supplier is simply an issue of capital costs rather than logistics. The Armed forces in India do have a logistics problem but that has more to do with lack of good infrastructure rather than arms supplier. The closest supply base for the Indian Army in Ladakh is Leh. It takes at least 9 hours of driving to get to the front to Depsang. The Chinese have their supply bases much closer and on better all season motorable roads (~5-6 hours). The Indian supply lines are closed for about 4-5 months a year. This is the logistics challenge Indian Armed forces faces.

@Munthasir123 9 ай бұрын

Ouff talking about my fellow South Asian people? I can tell you they are very tolerant people and no matter what you say they will respectful towards you and in no way curse you or your country for pointing out any flaw in their country. :)

@donderstorm1845 9 ай бұрын

haha

@Star-546 7 ай бұрын

Pakistani trrst begger 😂😂😂 don't call yourself southeast Asian , your trrst 😂😂😂

@bungeegum9837 7 ай бұрын

We are most tolerant People saar, nevar get angry😡😡

@Munthasir123 7 ай бұрын

@@bungeegum9837 oh no of course we are and we love one another very much. You know except the fact Pakistan keeps funding terrorists all over South Asia. India keeps on claiming all of South Asia for themselves pissing off everyone and having a religious and ethnic war with nearly half of its population forgetting it’s liberal constitution which stitches the country together. Bangladesh hating Pakistan for the ethnic cleansing in 1971 and hate India and Indian people for claiming Bangladesh belongs to India as some kind of neo colonial fantasy. Srilanka and Nepal hates India for India’s role in their civil war and for Indian neo colonial fantasy of claiming their country as part of India. And they hate India so much that they are willing to sell their country to China rather than to cooperate with India. So yea very tolerant and loving towards each other! 😍

@Star-546 7 ай бұрын

@@bungeegum9837 😂🤣 adltry alla sir gay mmad sir🤣😂🤣

@prateeksharma6706 4 ай бұрын

As an indian i think Chritine fair has understood how indias stratigic mind works for india its niebhourhood i.e afganistan,pakistan,nepal,bhutan, Bangladesh , sri lanka , maldives or china is the place where it seeks to use its military to defend stratigic objectives and if u look throughout indian history even largest of largest indian empires never attacked or expanded out of indian subcontinent Only once in 4000 years in 1100 ce an indian army from south indian chola kingdom went to attack and conqure indonesia But this stratigic way of thinking is foolish and naive cause it dont allow india to have deep alliances that can help defend it against forieng threat is it any surprise that india ( by extension indian subcontinent) is the most invaded country in the world !

@libshastra 9 ай бұрын

Oh my, comments are going to go wild.

@donderstorm1845 9 ай бұрын

not many indians and pakistanis watching i think. no nuclear war in the comments.. yet.

@libshastra 9 ай бұрын

@@donderstorm1845 That's a bummer. I was hoping some Pakistani gets so wild that he drops specs about their weapon systems. I guess I need to stir up something on WarThunder forums. :(

@SubcontinentIndex 8 ай бұрын

@@donderstorm1845 Bharat need not fire a bullet, the n number of !slamists terror groups that were created by pakistan is enough 😂😂Pakistan is a headache for Bharat, China is tumor.

@theplutonimus 2 ай бұрын

@@donderstorm1845 True.

@theplutonimus 2 ай бұрын

@@libshastra Bruh

@ryanisnttryin3733 9 ай бұрын

Welp it'll happen when it'll happen and I'll sure as Hell be watching from the sidelines, hopefully

@Star-546 7 ай бұрын

Pakistan should worry about ttpand taliban😂😂😂😂

@lisashackleton5049 3 ай бұрын

Around 13 minutes: will someone please take pity on this erudite gentleman and explain to him that “ has went” does not exist in English grammar: GO, WENT, GONE: He goes to school every day. He went to school yesterday. He has gone to school every day this week. If he has the intellectual capacity to learn big, impressive words such as “fungible” and “alacrity” then surely he is capable of learning the difference between the simple past, and the present perfect tenses.

@Star-546 7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 we dont need fight 😂😂😂 it already on its way for destruction 😂😂😂

@aryankumarprasad1574 6 ай бұрын

I like how both the western speakers skip around why India had to be closer to Russia

@ibratnak 8 ай бұрын

If India won all wars, why are they so startled?

@Myanmartiger921 7 ай бұрын

Why Pakistan live off jmf money

@Star-546 7 ай бұрын

Haa , muslim always have dislike with history weather Pakistan or islam😂😂😂😂😂 Mohammad killed pregnant women 😂😂😂😂😂

@rohanch07 4 ай бұрын

India lost all the wars. That's why its always begging USA, IMF or China for money. India was divided into two countries in the war of 1971 and its economy has been lagging ever since. In contrast Pakistan, which won all the wars, has become a services exporter to the world and successfully developed sophisticated pharmaceuticals and automobile industries. Pakistan's economy is slowly but steadily growing, foreign reserves have crossed USD 500 Billion and FDI is booming. And you sir, are a scholar.