Warm Audio TB12 or WA73 Which Would I Choose To Buy And Why WA73-EQ

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4 жыл бұрын

Buying your first Warm Audio preamp and Which I would choose to buy are questions that I get often. In today's video I hope to explain my thought process as to why I would Buy the Warm Audio TB12 preamp or The WA73 and in which case I would choose one or the other. The Warm Audio TB12 is a replication of the Classic API 312 circuitry and the WA73 is modeled after the Neve 1073. With either the WA73 or the TB12 you can't go wrong in whichever is purchased but you can approach your purchase with a more informed decision based on the music you primarily do.
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@TheGurner1 4 жыл бұрын

Great presentation as always! I have the WA73-EQ with the WA76 compressor - both are really good units, which I bought after watching these videos of yours Warren Henry - people have commented that my recordings have the "Neve sound" - that's good enough for me ;-)

@MinhHoanLe 4 жыл бұрын

Just bought a WA73 this morning, then check my wife's voice with some Adele songs. The vocal is significantly thicker and punchier. Cheers and greetings from Vietnam !

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Hoàn Dark! my brother thanks for watching from half way around the world. Congrats on acquiring the WA73. ✌🏽✊🏽🙏🏽

@MinhHoanLe 4 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenHenry Hey bro, I just add a WA76 to my chain. And the mix belongs to another up-level. Can't wait to get an EQP.

@EdThorne 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, Warren. I hope you're well. I have and love the WA73 and I'm considering a Tone Beast 12 as well for a variation. Rock'n'Roll.

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Ed! My brother thanks for watching. The Tone Beast is definitely a worthwhile tool to add to the toolbox. Thanks again bro!🙏🏽✌🏽

@HighDownPictures 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the very informative and straightforward video. Sending love all the way from Germany 🇩🇪

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!🙏✌

@alejandrocolon7642 3 жыл бұрын

you are extremely helpful !thanks a lot Warren!

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching✌🏾

@Russplight 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Warren I think you tapped my basement. Some how you always post the reviews on products I'm looking to purchase. Keep doing your thing man.

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Russplight thanks for watching my brother ✌🏽✊🏽🙏🏽

@Rammy22ify 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Warren, awesome vid as usual. 73 for me.

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

links4life thanks for watching ✌🏽🙏🏽✊🏽

@shawnlutz7008 4 жыл бұрын

I went through this a while back and my choice was the WA73-EQ. I like the TB12 but wanted the classic 73 design everyone raves about. I record in home studio primarily guitar (and some bass) for rock, fusion, neoclassical instrumental music. I don't do vocals and only have dynamic mics (SM57 and e609) that I toss on a cab. I really like the sound of the WA73, pretty interesting tone tweaking with the EQ, its pleasing to my ear even with the EQ bypassed. I can't compare to the Neve 1073 but on its own, the WA73 sounds great. I love the WA hardware, also have the WA76 and EQP-WA...good stuff. I'm just starting to play around with 500 series so I may grab a TB12 in 500 form

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching ✌🏽

@mostyles328 3 жыл бұрын

I couldn't help it and bought them both... Thanks Warren!

@ConfidenZeTheHumanTorch 3 жыл бұрын

Which one you like best for hip hop vocals

@mostyles328 3 жыл бұрын

@@ConfidenZeTheHumanTorch if it’s a fast cadence like rap or a punchy vocal, I go for the TB12, but if it’s a smooth vocal leaning towards R&B, the WA73 really shines. This is a preference and being picky, but they will both do the job. I would pick the WA73 if it’s mainly for vocals. I really like using the TB12 on guitar and bass. JM2C

@ConfidenZeTheHumanTorch 3 жыл бұрын

@@mostyles328 just got a MODDED WA73 FROM REViVE AUDIO Hasn't came in yet!!!

@IKnokBeats 3 жыл бұрын

Invested in the WA273. Money well spent. Great unit. Warm Audio is doing great things.

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching ✌🏽

@MOORxDOPE Жыл бұрын

Thanks bro! Was having trouble deciding. Keep the vids coming.

@WarrenHenry Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching brother 🙏🏽✌🏽

@MOORxDOPE Жыл бұрын

@@WarrenHenry Np, I ended up going with the WA73.

@WarrenHenry Жыл бұрын

You won’t be disappointed ✌🏽

@eancurtis9333 4 жыл бұрын

I got the heritage audio 1073 elite eq I must say its awesome !!!!!!!!!

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Ean curtis thanks for watching ✌🏽

@johnmartin5153 3 жыл бұрын

Warren do you use the insert in the back of the tone beast at all ? I have one. I love the clean api sound. I like older music, I thought I would use the vintage setting on everything. But I think the cleaner full sound on the TB is just great. Especially for the money. Been throwing around the idea of getting a 73 as well. But honestly I mostly do instrumental music. Mainly drum kit guitar and bass. Sometimes synth stuff. Maybe just stick with the beast for now ? I’d love to mess with a 73 though I’ve never used one personally.

@keysbythenumbers 3 жыл бұрын

I went with a TB12 Seeking a pre to deliver vintage warmth during tracking and mixing... now I feel like I'm missing out in the WA73. I know I want the WA73eq but maybe either one it seems will add benefit to my setup

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

JMAC Thanks for watching. I know the dilemma all too well. The good thing is that Warm has made it so affordable that you can have both in your arsenal. ✌🏽🙏🏽

@Clipwilsonbeats 4 жыл бұрын

Great stuff brother

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Clip Wilson my brother thanks for watching

@STMENTNETWORK 4 жыл бұрын

i got the wa73 for the time being because i was gone save up to buy the bae 1073 clone, but when i put it to use i said why bother this unit is a beast. Instead i paired it with the wa76 and i couldn't be more happier. Sometime i get a little more warmth then i want (ie warm audio) but i just eq it out when i don"t want it and i'm good.

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

STM FILMZ that’s a great vocal chain. Paired with the right mic you’ll get a lot of mileage out of that setup. Thanks for watching ✌🏽✊🏽🙏🏽

@STMENTNETWORK 4 жыл бұрын

Warren Henry yea I’m running a tlm49

@the_newvoice 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Searching for a good preamp :)

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Can’t go wrong with Warm Audio👍🏾

@BurrnsLuciano 4 жыл бұрын

I Got the wa73 eq and paired it with the wa47 and wow it sounds great together

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Burrns Luciano that’s the setup there. No more struggles to get the vox to sit in the mix. I live that mic. Thanks for watching ✌🏽🙏🏽✊🏽

@officialstichel3824 4 жыл бұрын

Any sample of your recorded work ?

@BurrnsLuciano 4 жыл бұрын

Official Stichel not yet haven't had the time to record anyone yet only some hooks I was working on but it does sound good nice and full. My voice sounds natural compared to my cad e-200 witch sounds nice but more crunchy

@BassGuitarLife 2 жыл бұрын

Good video Thanks

@WarrenHenry 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching

@TheGurner1 3 жыл бұрын

I now have both ;-) great units

@tigerw2878 3 жыл бұрын

Hey if you were to choose one for your first unit and you mostly did pop/rock/hiphop vocals, guitar and bass which would you choose?

@WizDaGod 3 жыл бұрын

@@tigerw2878 73 for sure

@aarona.dubzperson8245 Жыл бұрын

I chose to buy the WA12 MK2 (black). It's a great mic pre just like these other pres from Warm Audio.

@WarrenHenry Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Thanks for watching ✌🏾

@melodychest9020 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one. How much difference is there between the 1073 and the 1173? TB offers that colour too with 1173 right, and so does WA-12 for that matter. A bit confusing for me!

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Melody Chest when comparing the two it best to use the API vs Neve benchmark. The reason is the transformers used in both units are different in terms of the color and they impart. The X731 is the op amp used in the WA12. It’s API 2520 pin specific.That’s true, It can all be confusing if you are unfamiliar with the differences between an API and Neve console. If you have any specific questions just reach out to me via email. Thanks for watching ✌🏽🙏🏽✊🏽

@AmandaBlackRose 3 жыл бұрын

What would you recommend for a singer songwriter, acoustic guitar and vocal covers? Thanks Warren!

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Amanda! Thanks for watching and I must say you are one heck of vocalist!!! For your voice and the type of music you're doing I'd use the TB12. Keep those covers coming! Great job and thanks for watching✌🏾

@etiennetrading 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Warren, I have a neumann tlm103 and like to record/produce music such as Jon Bellion who makes similar music to 21 pilots. Which one would you suggest?

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the question. For the ultimate flexibility for vocals like that I’d go with the WA-73. Thanks again ✌🏽🙏🏽

@kosmos1448 4 жыл бұрын

If I'm more mixing than I am tracking should I go for the 73 eq for R&B and Gospel?

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Definitely! Thanks for watching ✌🏽

@jasenforrest6628 3 жыл бұрын

I own the tb12 and I do hiphop but I do own a apollo x4 couldn't I just use 1084 in unison behind my tb 12 to achieve the sound?

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

You could. The UA stuff is no joke. It'll get you close.Thanks for watching ✌🏾

@hawkeshiphop 2 жыл бұрын

So I record my own Hip Hop vox & the 1 thing that I cant seem to achieve w/ any plugin combo is that “thick full bodied weighted vocal” that you almost feel in your chest. I’m hoping that the WA 73 will give my vox that boost that I feel is lacking. Thoughts?🙏🏼

@WarrenHenry 2 жыл бұрын

The WA73 is a great option for Hip Hop vocals. Be sure and check out my recent livestream I get deeper on this topic.

@hawkeshiphop 2 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenHenry Thanks Warren, just watched the livestream. Kinda hard not to go with the HA 73 after hearing the section about WA not following the 3 eq recipe & you mentioning the certain problematic low frequency occurrences you encountered

@WarrenHenry 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and your question. All the best for the New Year✌🏽✊🏽🙏🏽

@shravankulkarni8736 2 жыл бұрын

Nice review, l loved the review. I am planning to buy one of these two, I want this for indian vocal recording. I have Audient id 14 and Neumann tlm 103 microphone. So can you please suggest me regarding these preamps. I want purely for indian music especially for vocal.

@WarrenHenry 2 жыл бұрын

Hi and thanks for watching and your question. I would use the WA73-EQ being that your microphone is the TLM 103. That mic would benefit from the Color of the WA73 and the EQ would tame the top end well. Thanks again for watching ✌🏽🙏🏽

@shravankulkarni8736 2 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenHenry ok, thank you very much

@garyshirinian 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Warren and thx for sharing your thoughts. Do you have any shout out between NEVE 1073 and WA73 AND Golden Age 73 with carnhill transformer. Thx . Hope to hear soon .

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

No shootouts between the three on the channel but having used a Golden Age Project 73 in the past on a CLIENT gig I vowed NEVER more. Hope that helps

@garyshirinian 3 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenHenry thx for replying however you feel right thx.

@the-matrix-has-you 3 жыл бұрын

Hi Warren, I have been producing Electronic music but since I got started producing. I have never produced a song with Vocals cause I cant get the tight lows of my voice with my interface built in Preamps. Which is Roland Octa-Capture's Preamps. I am happy with the conversion and sound quality of my Roland Octa-Capture but The Preamps are clean that I cant get the lows, mid and High frequencies harmonics cause simply Octa-Capture's Preamps does not generate those harmonics. I have bought GAP Pre 73 MKII in the past and it was good with mid frequencies to be forward in the mix. But still lacks the tight lows of my voice. So for Electronic Dance music I should buy Warm Audio WA73 then right?

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

You should try the WA73 or WA73-EQ. It might work for you and if you have the EQ version you should be able to tweak the lows the way you'd like. Thanks for watching

@the-matrix-has-you 3 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenHenry Thank you so much

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Hope you can tune into the Livestream tonight

@markchristopher2signal2 3 жыл бұрын

Sir Henry, what's good for recording synths and drum machine

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

If I'm recording synths it's got to be a Neve based preamp. Thanks for watching

@DarrenForbes 4 жыл бұрын

Have you tried the GAP Pre73? Thoughts? I have a TB12 and really like it.

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Had a GAP 73 crap out on a client gig. 😳Nuff said. Thanks for watching 😁✌🏽

@lightafluident.9950 Жыл бұрын

GAP SUCKS.

@DarrenForbes Жыл бұрын

@@lightafluident.9950 I have had been pleased with both my GAP and Warm Audio Gear.

@t3reeproduction314 Жыл бұрын

@@DarrenForbes I agree with you about the golden age.. at least in my experience I have 2 of their comp 3a units and run them joints no less than 30 hours a week for over 2 years now and they still perform well.. I leave them on 90 percent of the time Im in my studio.. if they go another 2 years like this and die off I still wont complain too much I've already made my money back of them.. I had a pair of focal solo 6be and one of them died on me only after 3 years of minor use, I'm still upset over that one🤣🤣..

@jabobihlman541 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Warren. Thanks for the great video. I'm running a WA87 through a WA73 (no EQ) and not liking the results at all. Sounds very nasally and I'm totally dependent on DAW eq to get a decent sound. Ironically, I'm using the waves 1073 eq. I'm thinking the tone beast might be better for me. But am I missing something here, because the 73 is supposed to be so great? I do rock, blues and guitar driven everything. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks man and keep up the good vids.

@jabobihlman541 3 жыл бұрын

@JDS Bleedo Thanks for the reply. Could you elaborate a bit? You think the mic is bad, or just not good for my voice? Thanks.

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Jabo, Thanks for watching. Truthfully, this mic combo is not for everyone. If you don't like the sound you are getting, I'm going tell you EXACTLY what I would say If we were doing the session together... LET'S CHANGE THE MIC. You could try the Tone Beast and WA251 combo (considering the genre) and even the WA14. On another note, I tell this story a lot in my livestreams. I was doing a late night session many years ago, very sleepy (it was 2am). When the engineer put up a vintage 47 for the vocal session everybody in the control room responded "What mic is that" point is we knew EXACTLY what we wanted to hear and the 47 delivered. TRUST YOUR EARS BROTHER, THEY WILL NEVER LET YOU DOWN... EVER! Thanks for watching🙏🏾

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

JDS, thanks for watching and weighing in brother. I appreciate it.

@jabobihlman541 3 жыл бұрын

@JDS Bleedo Actually it sounds best with no preamp. Just the pres on my presonus 1824. I want a warmer, fatter sound. Any mic suggestions?

@jabobihlman541 3 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenHenry Hey Warren. Thanks for the reply. I think my voice and a few of my male clients sound best through the Audio Tech AT3035. Maybe that's the answer. Any mic suggestions under $1000?

@herbertmuller7019 2 жыл бұрын

Im about to add a wa73 to my 6176 and u87 .. but not sure right now.. how would u compare the amp of the 6176 to the wa73 i know its tube.. 2 different things .. but yea just in terms of quality Best regards from germany

@WarrenHenry 2 жыл бұрын

Herbert thanks for watching. If you’re a guitar player chances are you will appreciate the way a Tube saturates when overloaded versus a transformer. It really gets down to that because the sound quality is more specific to the instrument being recorded. I’d give the WA73 a chance and if it doesn’t meet your expectations, ask for a refund. Thanks again ✌🏽

@kevin_gross 3 жыл бұрын

What if the genre is rock, heavy rock? Is the TB a better option? I'm keen to know your expert opinion. Much appreciated and greetings from Australia. Ta.

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Kevin! My brother from down under thanks for watching.🙏🏾 I’d try the TB first if it’s rock. The flexibility it gives, in terms of tone shaping, is my top reason. Thanks for your question ✌🏾

@kevin_gross 3 жыл бұрын

@@WarrenHenry thanks so much for your reply, it's very much appreciated and I'll take it on board. Subscribed.

@Semprimiliano 3 жыл бұрын

Wish I had seen this before! I have the Tone Beast and really don’t love it. I think it’s decent, just not the sound I was looking for. Maybe the mic (Avantone CV12) doesn’t go well with this tone beast but I would’ve bought the WA73

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

Hey thanks for watching. A lot of the decision making process of "which preamp to use" has a lot to do with the genre of music you are doing. I've had that experience as well. Sometimes you have to "side eye" the decision and say not quite there. Hope you get a chance to check out the WA73. Thanks again for watching.✌

@keysbythenumbers 3 жыл бұрын

Try the WA-87 or Nueamann TLM-102/103. Outstanding combo. Also, i catch the signal at the end with AUD LA2A.

@lightafluident.9950 Жыл бұрын

Tonebeast is very dope. I had one and loved it. Wish I never sold it. I now own the WA12 MK2 (black), and I chain an LL2A compressor limiter from Little Labs behind it.

@deewrath1440 2 ай бұрын

Thx 👍👌🤝

@WarrenHenry 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching ✌🏾

@future_Victoryofficial 2 жыл бұрын

Hi big brother I'm hip-hop producer i have Neumann U 87 AI from China,Warm Audio WA73Eq is better for me because I'm not satisfied when i record Vocals with my interface ZOOM-TAC-8 thunderbolt 18i20

@WarrenHenry 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Glad the WA73 is working out for you. Warm makes some great gear. All the best.✌🏾

@levijessegonzalez3629 3 жыл бұрын

Warm audio 1073 vs Stam audio 1073?

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve heard good things about the Stam Audio with its ability to customize the Transformers. Thanks for watching ✌🏽

@miguelowls 3 жыл бұрын

What if your an acoustic artist and also sing rock vocals??

@WarrenHenry 3 жыл бұрын

I believe the TB12 would work well.

@RemyRAD 3 жыл бұрын

Well that's a tough decision. Good thing I have the originals. Of both. And so when it's a question of API vs. Neve. I say yes! That is to say. You should have at least one of each. Though, I would recommend them in stereo, pairs. And you could always cascade one into the other in series. And you will be surprised at what you will get. So, while I might have the originals. I've been keeping my eyes on,, WARM Audio products. They do very nice recreations. It appears to me. But only my opinion. As a highly skilled technician/engineer. And I think knockoffs are just fine. Will it sound exactly like its original counterparts? Probably not exactly but close. Close enough. You only need to be, close enough. 4 time major music award nominee RemyRAD

@airbourne145 Жыл бұрын

Could you elaborate on the cascading technique of having a pair of preamps?

@bassinblue Жыл бұрын

I already have the wa73+eq but just wanted some insight on the tb12. I just wanna say, I have worked on music that you probably have heard around (don't bother checking, this is my anon account) and will say I've recorded vocals for artists on that WA73 (My one has the eq) and it works like a charm. Don't get the wa73 thinking (I want the neve sound). Take the wa73 for what it is and it does a lot, I promise you. Let's be real here, you don't really need expensive equipment to make great music, hell I mixed and mastered for rappers/rock music and jazz on a HP zbook (still going strong) and don't have any issues. These tools help us, but you must know what you're getting and why you're getting it. Just my two cents for anyone .

@WarrenHenry Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment ✌🏽

@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын

There's nothing better than buying the real thing such as the Neve 1073SPX which is only 1600 bucks. Much better made with higher quality components that will last a life time. I heard many stories of failing Warm Audio units and quality control issues.

@WarrenHenry 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching and your comment. I like that 1073SPX. It’s definitely a piece worth having. I haven’t experienced any QC issues with my units but have heard of units that have gone bad. From what has been shared with me Warm is one of the better brands that honor their warranty by issuing a new unit without any questions asked. They’re not interested in just selling units they believe in back end support which, for a new company, is as important as the unit itself. Thanks again ✌🏽

@adamalesidrums 4 жыл бұрын

Warren Henry not my experience with Warm. My WA412 has a finicky channel, they offered to fix it for a flat $75 fee plus the cost of shipping it to Texas. I was never offered a swap out on the unit, though I wish they did. The fact that they only have a year warranty means they don’t really stand behind their product. I had my unit for 18 months and it started to have problems. So I’ll probably getting rid of it at some point and will avoid Warm gear in the future.

@marin4311 4 жыл бұрын

I have Warm Audio stuff since years and never had a problem, nor heard of anyone having some.

@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын

@@adamalesidrums I would go Black Lion and Golden Age. Way better made.

@eman0828 4 жыл бұрын

@@marin4311 it maybe for you but from the research they use lower grade components mostly assembled in China hense why warm audio stuff is so cheap. It's like they are selling a unit with premium grade transformers solder to mostly Chinese built parts. The Black Lion stuff is about the closest you're gonna get when it comes to premium well build stuff. They use higher grade top shelf capacitors as they are known for modifying equipment to improve sound quality. Golden Age stuff is well built to.