Man thanks for checking out the video AND commenting! Warm Audio gets a bad wrap for their methods but I seriously don’t understand how solid results aren’t achieved with their products. Nothing is perfect but what they offer is good. And I’ve had good experiences with their customer service

Yooo! Thank you for checking it out and enjoying it!!

Humbled and appreciative!!!! I will certainly keep them coming!

Much much appreciation for the kind words but ultimately you checking out the video and giving it a change. I don't really see many video's like this in this genre so I was just trying full a void while staying in my lane.

Definitely appreciate the kind words!

Much appreciation for checking out the video and commenting. I too enjoy both mics! They’re on different ends of the spectrum but i like the tonality they offer and I get solid results from them. I’m the worst when it comes to gear because I say “get them” if you need them lol Thanks for watching, commenting, and happy recording!

Super humbled this was an aid to you! Make sure you post up the mic you end up getting! Thanks for checking out the content and commenting!

Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for the kind words!

Thank you for watching the video and commenting! Definitely appreciate the kind words and you checking out the channel!

Totally appreciate this! Much appreciation for your time, interaction and checking out the video!

Thanks for checking out the video, commenting and giving it a thumbs up!

Yoo!!! Thanks for the kind words, sub and checking out this video. This is one of my original tunes. I actually wrote it when I was like 15 or 16 haha. But I’ve re-arranged it a couple times. The mics: that’s a legit observation! I’m a proponent of making decisions based on mic characters. I would totally use the WA251 for the record or in this application. That top end presence helps the lead Vox poke out naturally. But I’d use the WA47 if it were just me and a keyboard performing the same song. Thanks for commenting! Seriously!!!

@@CarlMooreMusic Thanks for the generous reply. I have a home studio and record covers of favorite songs just as a hobby I started a couple years ago (primarily guitar, vocals nowhere near yours but that doesnt stop me lol). Ive learned a ton on the production and mixing side and it really helps me to recognize and appreciate what goes into it. Really is a killer song man and slick, jazzy groove with the.bass and drums. One small thought that crossed my mind, was maybe adding baby to the song title like you sing it - "Baby, You Should Let Me." Just a humble 2 cents. Thnx again for the reply.

@@SidFi20 Awesome! Are your covers posted anywhere for others to listen? I’m always down to listen to music! Ha thanks for the compliment and the title suggestions! I may have to use that!

@@CarlMooreMusic I mostly just mix them down and save them to google drive snd share links with family and friends. I would like to progress into cover videos and potential mixing videos eventually, but since its just a hobby for me im happy to take my time. Id be honored and happy to send you a link to one to check it out for fun. Can you direct message me on here and I'll send you one. Still developing but would be happy to share tips etc if it would be helpful.

Totally appreciate the sub, and checking out the video!!! There is a minor difference but I think they’re both solid tools! Again, I totally appreciate the love!

Much appreciated!!!! I would definitely agree with the like-ability of the wa47 top end. It’s not overly harsh at all. I own that this is just an opinion, but I dig it. I recently swapped out the stock tube in the wa47. I’ve read a few suggestions on modding/improving the wa251. Thanks for watching the video, contributing, and the kind words.

Fully agree.

No problem at all! Thanks for checking out the video, commenting and stopping by the channel!

Much appreciation for checking out the video and commenting!

Thank you good sir!!

So many have varying opinions, but I like what I get out of both Warm Audio mics. I incorporate outboard gear on the front end when I record, so these videos aren’t totally accurate to what I’d do for final takes but they definitely reveal desirable qualities sonically…. At least in my opinion. Much appreciation for you checking out the video and commenting

Thanks for checking out the video and the compliment!!!

yes man the 251s on OH are the best sounding OHs ive ever heard, definitely the main reason Im considering one as my vocal upgrade, and for now my figure 8 in a mid/side until I get a 2nd one for OHs.

@@DruNature I think it is an excellent choice for vocals, but I have an original AKG "The Tube" mic I use on all vocals and it has been perfect on everyone who ever recorded in my studio. Male or female, rock or country and even Rap. Since my new studio is much livelier and bigger than my first studio, I will also use the AKG as a room mic for drum tracks. Mono only. Joe Logsdon & Company, KZfaq.

Good call. I also have used “The Tube” for years and now have three WA 251’s. They are killer for overheads, vocals and some other things. The Tube still rocks for fat warmth on many things.

Yoo!!! I totally appreciate the sub, you checking out the video and your comments! You’re right and I’m with you about application of the mics and their characteristics. I’ve seen quite a few folks bashing warm audio but I like the stuff I own from them. The WA47 is girthy to me and at the time I purchased it, I didn’t have a mic similar to that tonal character. I’m a MAJOR fan of 251’s! I think warm did a stellar job on theirs but I would LOVE to own one of Golden Age’s. Haha. I’d rather just buy it to own it instead of borrowing 😂. But for the exact reason you mentioned, I started putting together short review clips of mics. I kind of got tired hearing the same style of sources to give me an idea of a mic. Just wanted to meet a need of another genre in the music community! Thanks again! More content is coming!

Totally appreciate you for checking out my content! I like the flavors that Warm Audio has provided when making these mics! Thanks for the kind words!

Both are fine. The extra highs on the 251 will probably have the advantage of cutting through in a song. Or maybe in an up beat dance song. The 47 will probably fit more in mellow songs. The 47 is more beautiful sounding by a small margin but they’re both great.

Yoo I definitely appreciate the love and the sub!

Definitely!

Much appreciation for checking out my video! Can’t build a house with nails, and I often times view the gear used to create music similar to nails. Understand which mic works best for the source material is crucial! Thanks for commenting and stopping by!

Thanks for checking out the video and commenting! Did you ever pick up a new mic? If so which did you end up getting?

@@CarlMooreMusic well i end up with the Fc-357 really god mic but don’t fit my need so i sell The lauten and pick-up the tlm 103 To be honest the best of both worlds and a workhorse Im going to start know with a small 500 serie preamp and compressor for tracking

Ooh btw In the case of the 357 i love more how the rode work with male vocals for some reason, So in that point i start to think that mic and prices doesn’t really matter, Its all about a type of color your looking for

Thanks for the sub! My apologies for the late response, but its definitely helpful when people hit that subscribe button. It's appreciated when they comment and interact with you!

@@CarlMooreMusic you’re welcome!! I have a page as well if you’d like to follow! I just bought an ADK Cremona 251 and am really enjoying it on my vocals! Your video helped a lot, thanks!

Definitely grateful for the sub!

Thank you much for the kind words, watching the video and stopping by the KZfaq channel.

Thanks for commenting on the video and checking out the channel! I think it boils down to what’s desired tonally and works better with the source material but either mic can get the job done

Thanks for commenting! I’ve got another video on KZfaq in a studio where the primary mic was Neumann u47 (not sure the year). But after the session was over, I had to comp in a section of the 2nd verse because I forgot to add a portion of the BGVs. I was surprised at how close the Warm take on a u47 was to a vintage version. For some, they’ll throw the WA47 in the trash, but to my experience, I could definitely tell Warm got their mic in the u47 family. Again, I appreciate your time for the interaction!

Much appreciation for the kind words, checking out the video and commenting!!!! Definitely solid tools to get the job done!

Yoo!!! Thanks for checking out the video and commenting! I definitely dig the 251 period! The bass was performed by a good friend of mine. I played keyboards on this tune, arranged and wrote it.

Definitely appreciate the kind words and you checking out the video! Warm Audio gets a lot of flack for how they market their products and the products themselves, but I’ve been able to get solid results when using them. I don’t expect them to be alternatives to what they clone. I think they’re in the family, distant cousins even but that’s not why I create with their tools. My subjective stance only. So many will argue with it, but my following/base likes my content and I use Warm Audio along with other companies to make my work.

Thanks for checking out the channel and commenting on the video! Your description is my exact sentiments. I think both mics are totally usable and with front end processing, I believe one would get closer to end result goals

Yooo thanks for watching the video and commenting! Humbled that you appreciate the content! Warm Audio gets a fair amount of hate from other folks in the audio community but I legitimately enjoy the products they have! I keep the correct mindset when I use them and I get my work done! Again appreciate you for checking out my content!

Yeah they both sound amazing. Once the music kicked in I kind of wanted to hear them blended together, best of both worlds haha.

Hey thanks for checking this out! I’d honestly agree. The 251 is more of the tone needed for this song and this example

@@CarlMooreMusic Agree it corresponds better with the song, man. Nice job, by the way! Stay safe, keep rockin

Much appreciated!!! More content coming!

People tend to like higher frequencies more but in some ways, it’s kind of over rated. The 47 has a slightly nicer more relaxed feel and maybe a little more natural. The 251 is really good too. I feel that even a U87 or Warm Audio 87 would also be fine too. Most people wouldn’t really notice which mic though after it’s been mixed.

Thanks for checking out my example! 🤔 it always depends on the source being captured but out of these two, I think the WA251 would possible offer the top end people are looking for without being too “modern” sounding per say... The WA47 is girthy!

Yoo! Thank you for checking out the video and the compliments! I honestly do dig both these mics. They met a specific need I had, and I haven’t been disappointed since!

I hear the exact opposite! Are you sure about that? The 47 is much more present with a wide and very usable rise in the 3-8kHz area, the 251 is warm to dark by comparison.

Thank you much for checking out my video and commenting! I definitely like both and I have a good idea where I prefer those characteristics over the other! Still they’re both solid and can produce workable results! Thank you again!

Just wanted to say thank you for checking out the video and commenting. Tube mics with power supplies do not need phantom power (48v). The power supply takes care of that.

Thanks for the love and checking out the video! I don’t feel like the issue you mentioned is relevant to either of the mics in this video. I think they’re both pretty solid and will accomplish a good deal of tasks you through at them. You’d be happy with either mic!

Thanks for checking out the video and commenting! Have you considered u87 style mics? There’s voicing of that mic all over the market and it’s solid either way you use it. I just used an SM7b with the low cut and top boost on a source and it was solid for what I needed! (Female source but it worked nonetheless). I definitely prefer the XLS over the XLII from AKG on vocals so I feel like that could be a solid option too. What’s your front end like? Any external pres and processing? I’m waiting to get my hands on same of the GA models. My videos come from my personal locker lol so I have to shell out the money for them.

@@CarlMooreMusic first of all appreciate you taking the time to read I had not realized I left such a lengthy comment. I have always avoided the u87 after researching and seeing a lot of people say its not as great as it seems (definitely the new ones) however I would be interested if I can get my hands on something vintage. I actually ended up getting the AKG because the price and people saying its real close to that sound. I know there’s so many clones these days and just trying to get the best bang for the buck. Honestly excited to hear you’ll be reviewing the GA models. There aren’t too many reviews on those yet I hear positive things. Did some more research and came across another One called AA (Advanced Audio) they apparently have an excellent budget friendly clone of the famous Sony 800g called the CM800T might be worth looking into they have some other clones as well. And currently Im using the UAD Apollo preamps only the stock clean pre and they offer the 610B (unison) included not sure how it compares to the Neve or Avalon 737 I can demo those to find out you think it will make a distinct difference? Some other mic styles Im intrigued by are the u47, u67, and 251. My rap style is more in the traditional sense then the modern pop sound. My voice isnt naturally bassy but Ive learned to project and bring that out when recording and was looking to emphasize that while still sounding clear. Hence the Sm7b but personally have trouble getting it to the sound the way I like with eq idk if Im expecting too much from it though I know its a great mic at that price.

Shoot me an email with details mooremusic@carlmooremusic.com

Much appreciation for checking out the video and commenting! The combo of top and sparkle and the warmth of the tubes give it the sound you’re hearing. They get flack but warm audio makes solid mics

I’ve never personally experienced a more pronounced top end with a mic being placed upside down. Historically, I believe, tube mics were placed upside down to keep the heat away from the capsule. But I don’t think with modern tube builds, that’s as much of an issue. However, I’ve never had the problem you mentioned. If your suggestion works for you, hopefully that’s a plus.

@@CarlMooreMusic yes it works

@@kumareshhalder4214 go for it if it works for you!

@@CarlMooreMusic Thank u sir 🙏

Definitely appreciate the kind words. I think it depends on the source material but I’d say the 251 for a dense track where you need it to cut through the mix. The wa47 could work on maybe a striped down track with not a lot going on.

@@CarlMooreMusic thanks bro I appreciate.

Honestly, I think it's pretty solid with more affordable gear and more expensive options. I'll post a full video demonstrating that but I've use both mics with plenty of outboard gear in the track & mixing phase. Thanks for the comment, checking out the video and stopping by the channel.

Thanks for checking out the video, the kind words, and sharing your perspective. I don’t expect these mics to be 1 to 1 clones of the vintage or reissue originals, just as much as I know that only matched pairs sound exactly the same. I do believe it’s in the family of the tones and, for me, that’s sufficient. No consumer will ever listen to a professionally completed song with the knowledge or announcement during the song that “this vocal, or this instrument was recorded with a vintage original, reissue, or a clone 251.” They’ll just be listening to the song. With that being said, I do ascribe to the idea of achieving the best sound possible on the front end. I would like a little more smoothness on the top end of the WA251, and it honestly could use more of a 3D feeling in the mids (TO ME). But also in consideration is that I’d never track without some type of EQ and compression and that can help improve the tone in certain areas. I’ve seen suggestions for tonal improvements (swapping out the tubes for something NOS, or having the mics modded completely). I’ve actually recently replaced the tube in my WA47 and I can hear a more desirable difference in my opinion. Overall, the budget of the majority of home-project studios will never reach the justifiable price tag of telefunken reissue u47 or 251 let alone a solid working vintage with reliable, regular maintenance. There are other clones on the market that may be better than Warm Audio (and I intend to explore that lol) but ultimately, I think Warm gets its customers in the ball park for reasonable rates. That does come with a level of sacrifice but all things do. I’m happy with the results of my work using those tools. Again, much appreciation for taking the time to watch the video and commenting.

I use a Canon M6 mkII

@@CarlMooreMusic thanks!

No problem at all!

Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. I have other tests that are “raw” but that’s not my preference. My style of pitch correction doesn’t alter the tonal characteristics of the mic and I can guarantee what some assume are corrected notes probably aren’t. I understand some subjective positions are not in favor of pitch correcting. I respect the right to the position but don’t agree with it. Again, thanks for checking out the video

Thanks for checking out the channel and commenting! I don’t think you’ll be disappointed with either mics

@@CarlMooreMusic yes sir! I have now subscribed thanks for all the great content!

Thank you for the sub!!!

Antelope Audio Orion Studio Rev. 2017

Thanks for checking out the video and commenting. What’s the setup? Is there any front end processing before it hits the DAW? I think that information is crucial before giving a perspective on which to choose.

@@CarlMooreMusic only the Audient id14 preamp

Thanks for the love and checking out the channel!

Thanks for checking out the video. The preamps used are the stock pres from Antelope Audio’s Orion Studio rev 2017 interface

Technically, it would be more precise to say the 251 is rolling off the lows and boosting the highs, while 47 is more flat. But I agree that for his voice on this song the 251 sounds better... fantastic really. I usually prefer a frequency response closer to the 47 but I'm really tempted to get the 251 after hearing this, especially for tracks where the lows are being cut anyway.

@@ombilicdes Good point. I'm on the verge of going for the Vanguard Audio V13 but still hesitating... Haven't been able to find anyone comparing the two.

I’m looking to get my hands on one of those too. When I do, I’ll definitely post some content. What had you hoped to compare it to?

@@CarlMooreMusic I was hoping for a shootout with the WA-251. Can't really figure out the differences, apart from the fact I've read a lot of people raving about the V13 in just about every situation, much less the WA-251.

Got it!

Thanks for checking out the video and commenting

Appreciate you for checking out the video and commenting!

I would say so too. But I definitely feel like both mics are usable

Thanks for checking out the video. Subjectivity grants you the right to your opinion but I definitely disagree with your perspective here. The point is to display the mic’s natural qualities. EQ preferences vary across listeners. What you may perceive as good is highly likely to sound bad to another. Even your comment that, “ But now one of them just brighter and sounds better,” displays your preference. EQ processing wouldn’t change the validity of this test at all. But again thank you for checking out the video and commenting

@@CarlMooreMusic i can agree only in case of playing without music. But when they are in the mix i think to make equal highs would be great to listen. So Which one do u like more?

@@user-md2jb6kk4f there’s nothing wrong with your opinion, but it’s subjective and it’s not a fact it’s just how you feel. Some may not agree with it, and I’m not in agreement. I like both mics honestly but I’d use them in different applications

Thanks for stopping by another episode on the channel and commenting

Totally appreciate the link up. I checked that handle and couldn’t find you. Send me a message on IG

Not sure what any of this means but views count on KZfaq so thanks for the view!