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Agreed he was incredible!!!

Especially since his role was initially supposed to be a minor one. The show was originally meant to be about the staff.

To me it was always the part that comes next. "It's what our fathers taught us.". There is so much implied in that statement and the outlook of the show going forward from it.

We're getting really good at it. Yes we are

Leo was a LtCol in the USAF and had actually flown combat missions . . . .

My all time fav TV series. And didn't Martin Sheen win best actor in a dramatic series largely for his angry dissertation at the National Cathedral after Mrs. Landingham's funeral, the end of the aecond season???

Sure, worked then Dosent work now. When Assad used chemical weapons in Syria, we responded. But he keeps using them. Iran attacked oil tankers, we use cyber warfare and drones to retaliate. Hasn't seemed to deter them. Ukraine is invaded by the country that cannot bake bread. We use sanctions and military aid bills. Hasnt stopped the fighting. Proportional response is the loftier pedastal of morals. But people who are against you in the field dont give a shit about your morals.

He Stole that. Its from a poem called High Flight, by Magee.

@@christopherpardell4418 and Reagan's famous Challenger Disaster address to the Nation..

@@jspee1965Makes sense as Ronald Wilson Reagan was never President in that universe (Which is odd.). Also: "Reagan, often called "the great communicator," was not so sure about those closing lines it turns out. He, too, was familiar with the poem--"High Flight"--and was skeptical that verse from a 19-year-old World War II airman would strike the right tone." They were also quoting that, I swear the man knew more poems than me.

Bravo and well said.. to hell with the Trumplicans.

That is when Inwatch it all again

Absolutely true. 🤗

*agreed…until Mr. Sorkin left. His dialogue is impossibly good

Also an additional point was the reverence of the office. When the President stands, everyone stands.

I just noticed the eye squint at 5:30 for the first time.

@@pbdye1607 reminds me of Bill Nighy in Hot Fuzz

The only sad part is that the Theology is insanely wrong. It seems out of place for someone who is otherwise a genius. For example his view on abortion, which in my opinion is too weak, which is Pro-Life at least on a personal level.

@@jamesgoines7663 Why though? I thought the President is just some guy.

Rcommendations?

never I think

@@user-hw3ei5ev4z Surely. Hold on a moment, I've just had another clip recommended. Let's see..."The Paul Revere Knife". That can't be anything, right? .... .... Dammit!!!!!!

They loved him too, and vice versa. They all knew even when they stridently disagreed, they were trying to do the best for the nation.

Is he a good man?

@@bstef100what would ever imply that he wasnt a good man?

@@ScootsFromNewCastle He lied about MS and other things, he assassinated a foreign leader, had bad temper and snapped at everybody (like Rene ^^ whom he gave a firm talking-to), his daughters kinda disliked him, his wife kinda wanted to divorce him... Don't get me wrong I think he's was good man so to speak, but "what would ever imply" is willful blindness isn't it? That's what made WW so great, the characters felt real, organic. They had depth and nuance, they were developped unlike any other show I've watched.

And Toby was brilliant as the conscience

To be fair they did a really good job carrying the torch after his departure too.

Amerika was Satan's nation from the very beginning, you know that I assume? Hence God's laws, and God Himself, were cast out of your LIBERAL Satanic constitution. And look at the horrors of your past and present. I expect Amerika to suffer greatly in these end times.

We're a democratic-republic with constitutional and presidential characteristics, but regardless I like that you're overty against freedom and liberty of the common man.

@@ugheieiemmmfmfmff Curious who you're speaking to, yalini? There's certainly nothing in my comment to indicate anything about my beliefs. My comment would only be considered Civics (As Pres. Bartlett explained).

@@dangeroreilly2028 Literally "good to hear him declare we're not a democracy" Why are you backing out of your axioms my dude?

@@ugheieiemmmfmfmff Simple. And thank you for asking. As Pres. Bartlett explains we are a Republic, not a democracy. My comment was only based on the accuracy of Sheen's character. Of course, he's a fictional character. Many real people today call us a democracy and that just isn't accurate. Our founders specifically set up a federal plan that wasn't a democracy because they didn't want the populations in 3 or 4 major cities in the colonies making every law for every colony as a simple "majority rule" might do. Certainly we have democratic principles in our nation, but most refer to our nation as a constitutional republic. To say what I like- or don't like- is jumping the shark for sure. My comment only addressed the accuracy of the term Pres. Bartlett used. I think you may have assumed too much.

We aren't a good enough people to vote for a man like him, as it turns out.

In a plutocracy, a society ruled by and for money not people wich is what the US is since the 80s people like that (Bartlet) do not go into politics since the corruption does not seem fun or feasible to them. You'd have to transform back to a democratic republic for a higher quality of elective material. People like Obama/McCain/Romney/Clinton is the best you'll get, and we all now know what the bottom of the barrel looks like - insurgents at the capitol.

Because America itself is so divided it wouldn’t vote for someone like this. He’s too moderate for both sides.

We had one in president Obama. At least close

All it is is a reflection of the times. I still accidentally say the ''Cleveland Indians.''

It ISN'T 50%. Only some 60% of eligible voters actually voted in the election. Then about 46% of THEM voted for trump. That's only about 28% of eligible voters. We are being run around by an extreme minority who are making us believe that they make up at least 50% of voters. Don't be fooled by them.

Happens when a good education is either pay walled or picked apart by people who have no place deciding what an education should entail. It takes a couple generations but a good education fixes any nations major problems.

sadly, there are some gay people who support Trump. Ah, but then I remember Ernst Rohm's support of Hitler...

Truthfully, no. West Wing was always a liberal fever dream. In the modern era, it wasn’t Trump that ended the era of bipartisanship, it was the midterm elections of 2010. The rise of the Tea party meant that the GOP would be instructed by their constituents to not only not work with democrats, but to do everything in their power to make them fail. But even then, that wasn’t the start of this polarization. That was more or less started in the 90s, BEFORE West Wing even aired. During the 90s, conservative media was in its infancy but it started to heavily influence conservatives voters with clear propaganda without any sense of fairness. They were able to do this because Reagan dismantled a law in media called the Fairness Doctrine, which mandated that news broadcasters were required to make an effort to show both sides of an issue. That’s why Republicans were far more moderate prior to the 80s. The policies of Reagan helped shape the world we live in today. Reagan dismantled the progressive tax system that taxed the wealthy, dismantled much of the welfare state, undid a lot of governmental regulation, allowed conservative propagandists to create media outlets for influence, and overall made the country more right wing. By the time West Wing was airing, much of the political reality was already starting to distort compared to the bipartisan reality of the show. Liberals were out of power and unpopular. With massive populat support across the board, the welfare state was dismantled, the war on drugs was intensified, policing was ramped up, mandatory minimums were instituted, unions were abandoned, etc etc. The liberals only began to re-emerge as the 2000 election was happening, but then 9/11 happened. Once the war in Iraq started, polarization began to show its effects, and the conservatives became hyper patriotic, and the liberals became anti war. It was in the 2000s that society began to become more secular and liberal. But in rural areas, they stayed conservative.

What?

Ironically he wasn't better than "Trumpty Dumpty" Just a lot better at portraying it to the masses. But then he wasn't character assassinated 24/7 for 365 x 4.

The fact is that the show is rather insane, the Florida Governor is clearly George Walker Bush (They take wholesale lines from his debates.) and it is really weird. It felt like they straw-manned Republicans meanwhile they showed a reasonable Republican, in their minds, with Arnold Vinick even though the ending undermines that (Why bother putting forward a loser? Ironically the Republicans would do this twice.). The big problem with the show is that after 9/11 it became rather irrelevant, if you watch it the politics is just an extension of the '90s with Republicans going on and on about deficits (To be fair like Clinton the Democrats do so too.) and cutting taxes and a curious lack of *9/11!*

Wow you are truly stupid!!

No. You make it sound as if our politicians are the ones who should be brainwashing us. They're supposed to represent us, not reprogram us.

LOLOLOLOLOL -- I could go on, but hopefully you get the point.

Oodles of people have been in space. There is no such thing as the firmament. Its a concept that was abandoned shortly after we abandoned crystal spheres and bodily humours. The stars are not fixed, they just are too far away to notice their relative motions in the lifespan of a human being. And when the poet Magee mentioned touching the face of God it was an allusion to the yearning of man to explore, to stretch his mind further than his reach, to understand a world that challenges our comprehension. To touch the face of God is to accomplish the impossible.

Of all the concepts/discussion presented in particular this clip and you went to firmament/Flat Earth 😂

The lack of a 9/11 is what makes it quickly feel wrong. I just looked at the dates and was like, they are not even acknowledging this thing? The closest I can find is a seeming endorsement of the Iraq War (2003-2011).

@@johnnotrealname8168 They did... the episode "Isaac and Ishmael" dealt specifically with 9/11, and was the 1st episode of the 3rd season, (about) 3 weeks after the ordeal the previous month. America was shut down and was in a trance... It literally took (of all people) David Letterman to give us permission to laugh again, play sporting events, leave our homes, etc. Doing more with TV or Hollywood movies on 9/11 would have been seen as exploiting a major tragedy for money. Nicolas Cage did a movie about it, (like) 3 years after it happened, and his career never really recovered from the blowback.

@@MarkLewis... Dude that is the episode that was written for 9/11 where nothing happened. It was a terrible episode.

It is a wonderful analysis of the unipolar moment.