WARNING graphic attack on Satakunta Osprey Nest 1: raven kills a chick, fox kills Alma 25 Jun 2021

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25 /7/ 2021 Statement from Satakunta Osprey project about Ossi & Alma's two relocated chicks:
Many have asked about the two babies of Ossi and Alma moved to the second nest as a result of the unfortunate events on Midsummer Eve. The chicks were ringed and investigated during the move.
The inspector of the nest visited the scene and found that one of the chicks had passed away. It was surprising that the deceased baby was the one who survived the raven attack with seemingly minor injuries. The cause of death of the baby was no longer able to be concluded at that point. The relocated chick has a yellow ring SRS, which was added during the relocation. On Thursday 22.7 SRS was photographed in flight near the nest, so this story seems to have a happy ending.
Midsummer's Eve events showed once again that anything can happen at the nests approach something you can't possibly prepare for. Hopefully Ossi will find a good partner for next year. A good sign is that Ossi has not abandoned his nest place due to setbacks, but has lived there in the last few days. And best of all, we've also seen females with Ossi on the nest. Next spring we'll see how the story continues in Ossi's nesting swamp.
The presence of ravens at Ossi's nesting swamp has also sparked discussion. However, they have been living in the same areas for a long time and they haven't been more harmful to the weather. The weathers have been nesting in that nest continuously since 2005; the first failure came only the other year as a result of a visit tby a goshawk and the second setback this year because of the raven.
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Note: this is a remote nest cam livestream, no camera operators are nearby. Heartbreaking tragedy for Alma and Ossi and their three chicks - around 10.45 today Alma is attacked on the nest by a raven, she tries to fight it off to protect her chicks and is injured. The raven returns, attacks first one chick then a second, then returns to attacking the first one and wounds it fatally before being forced away by Ossi. Disturbance is seen in the distance in the trees in front of the nest, nest cam operator zooms in and an Osprey can just be seen trying to fly but not succeeding. Then a fox comes along, a fight ensues before the fox naturally wins and is seen carrying Alma off. All the while heartbreaking cries are heard which must be Ossi, witness to the tragedy but unable to do anything to save his mate.
It seems Alma must have injured herself flying after the raven to protect her chicks - it's thought perhaps she caught her wing on a tree in the forest, was unable to fly, landed on the ground and was then vulnerable to attack by the raven. The raven had to fight her for a long time before it was satisfied she wasn't coming after him and so was able to return to the nest and attack the chicks, killing one and wounding another before Ossi came screaming in to force it off the nest.
Cam operator then pulls back and the two surviving chicks, one injured, are seen next to the body of their sibling. What will happen to them now? Will the injured one survive, will the raven return, Ossi be able to look after them on his own? Just heartbreaking but sadly, this is what happens in nature. The darker side of nest cam watching..
25/6/2021 Statement from Satakunta Osprey Project:
The progress of nesting became virtually impossible after Alma's death. Such small chicks cannot be flown by an Osprey male alone, i.e. fed, defended and protected from heat. Numerous experts were consulted on the follow-up and it was finally concluded that the only option for the larger chicks is in another nest.
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The nest is located in the Satakunta region in Western Finland. Ospreys have nested there since 2005. The male Osprey, Ossi, has inhabited the nest since 2014. He has a ring on his right leg and according to the ringing data he hatched in Karkku, Sastamala in 2009. Alma, the female, doesn’t have a ring and therefore her age and hatching location are unknown.
In 2019 Alma and Ossi’s nesting failed due to a Goshawk attacking the nestlings. Nevertheless, the pair returned the following year and raised three fledglings. Since 2017 Alma and Ossi have raised a total of eight fledglings.

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@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@The-ii5mj 2 жыл бұрын

I know this was hard for me to watch so I can only imagine the 💔for all of you. If it's ok, I had a few q's. Why, given that there were 2 adults watching these 2, stay & protect the babies? The Raven (grrr) & Osprey seem to be matched for size. I know the female Osprey gave her life trying to save them😯💔. Did the M return to the nest after the fight?

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@The-ii5mj When the raven returned to the nest after the fight with Alma in the woods, it was the resident male who dive-bombed it and drove it away from the nest, stopping the attack and saving the other chicks. We don't know if there were other ravens around and he was dealing with them in the air out of camera view, but there were a lot of frantic alarm calls before he arrived at the nest. It's usually a male's job to fight off in the air and the female's to defend the nest.

@The-ii5mj 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff Thank you! Last yr I got way invested in watching 2 Eagles. They went thru a hard time & I know how we felt. So I'm very sorry for the loss. I guess that comes with watching birds💕✌

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@The-ii5mj You're so right, nest cam watching has definite highs and lows. But that's how nature works, and we're privileged to have this window on their worlds.

@The-ii5mj 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff I agree!!!!‼️ Who knew I would become a "bird watcher"✌️💕

@Hemantartideas Ай бұрын

Who came form instgram

@KurbonovD Ай бұрын

@PedroCorretor Ай бұрын

@adelvanlima8961 Ай бұрын

@stankssmile5865 Ай бұрын

I too am trying to find that Instagram video

@mariajosefinaterann Ай бұрын

me so sad!

@ZAELish 2 жыл бұрын

there is an ongoing study in yellow stone were looking at raven wolf interactions, were the ravens seem to be actively working with the wolfs in finding prey and also playing with the pups seemingly forming bond, so the fox and raven working together might actually be occurring here.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

That's very interesting, thanks for that @MichaelHannon. There are many instances of inter-species co-operation, I'm thinking of African Honey Badgers and Honey Guides, although I believe the evidence is anecdotal, or very well-documented instances of big fish going to coral reef grooming stations to be attended to by much smaller Cleaner Wrasse who would normally be prey but who are quite safe.

@akforlife2423 2 жыл бұрын

they are the same way bears and ravens do and how ravens will lead hunters to game. Symbiotic mutual bond. as soon as the food is gone, so too is the bond.

@DatoIsaacAki 2 жыл бұрын

I agreed. I've experience in this modern world. My Crow bond with my parrots .... So any others birds around or I rescue be the victim.

@carlwilliams6977 2 жыл бұрын

The only problem with that theory in this case MH, is that the Raven would have had to been able to take the Osprey down, which is unlikely. I think it's more likely that she collided with a branch or something, and the fox happened to be in the right place, at the right time. Osprey aren't the most nimble pilots in wooded situations, and have almost a 6 ft wingspan. Ravens on the other hand, are acrobats, with almost half the wingspan. A little like comparing a bomber with a fighter. I wish she had simply stayed on the nest and waited for backup!

@MrJsv650 Жыл бұрын

many grizzly bears and black bears will have a Raven companion.

@FJB_The_BigGuy Жыл бұрын

This is a jaw-dropping moment for the third chick.

@g3g3n 2 жыл бұрын

How does relocation work? Does Ossi move as well to take care of the chicks or are they placed in another pair's nest?

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

No, Ossi isn't involved - if a single parent could both catch enough fish and protect the chicks, they would have been left alone. That's impossible, so the two chicks were moved to a nest where an adult pair have only one chick, in hopes that pair will raise these two with their one. Awaiting update on how it's all going.

@g3g3n 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff Thanks for the reply. That's interesting to know, I wasn't aware of the likelihood of parents accepting another chick of such size (they seemed just about to fledge). Do let us know how well it goes

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@g3g3n See pinned comment for full statement from the Osprey project. The relocated chicks were accepted into the new nest. There is good news about one of them - it is thriving and has fledged, Darvic ring SRS. Sadly the injured chick did not survive. The surving chick is the middle chick, chicks 1&3 died as a result of the raven attack.

@sandrastone5847 10 ай бұрын

So sad! How did Ossi react when he came back to the nest? I would like to know how Ospry's grieve.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Update 20.30 UK time: The chicks are being relocated to a nest without a camera. Update 17.15 UK time: The livestream has been taken down while the two chicks are being removed and taken for safe relocation. The chick that was killed was the youngest chick, mods say nest 3 is not suitable for these two older chicks because of the age difference. Will update as soon as info received from the mods. If there is any good news, it's that Ossi returned later at 18.15 (cam time) with fish, one chick tucked in enthusiastically and even the injured chick had a nibble: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7aph8p7yZa4qZc.html

@WarlockRekoner 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the update. I appreciate you time. I agree this year has not been good for osprey. I live in the Chesapeake Bay Area and get to see these majestic birds first hand. We recently had our first chick hatch. I'm hoping the year is better for them in my area. Keep the updates coming. I appreciate your information.

@alison9513 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the update, glad they have been moved 😊

@agl1138 2 жыл бұрын

Why have the chicks been moved? This is nature. As for the one you call Ossi, he'll get over it and find another mate. Animals always do. It is only humans who wallow in sentimentality.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@WarlockRekoner Lucky you Brian, being able to see your Osprey family first hand. Is that Tom & Audrey by any chance?

@WarlockRekoner 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff Yes, I live near Stevensville and there basically right down the road from my house. Usually once of twice a week I walk down and watch them fly. Very Majestic and amazing.

@EgidioRuffolo-zw1lf 7 ай бұрын

Sweet momma,she tried like hell,only to be killed.Nature or not it's heartbreaking.RIP🦅🦅🦅🦅

@tomtalker2000 Жыл бұрын

Common Ravens are EVERY bit a predator as they are a scavengers folks. I've been in the avian field now for the better part of 30yrs. Having "hands on" experience with everything from Warblers to Birds of Prey. And Corvids which comprise of the following; Ravens, Crows, Rooks, Magpies, Jackdaws, Jays, & Nutcrackers are some of my favorite family/class of birds i've worked with. Their sheer intelligence in terms of puzzle solving and learning human speech is unparalleled. Ravens are no small birds at 25in with a 4-4.5ft wingspan weighing in around 2.5lbs. I've seen them kill puffins, small ducks, rats, squirrels, and it's not with the use of their claws/talons since they aren't sharp enough too do the job a bird of prey can. It's with their VERY strong hooked beaks. Which are perfect for ripping and tearing into flesh. It's also the reason why A LOT of Birds of Prey give them the respect they command. As they can soar and tumble through the air just as good as any bird of prey can. Notice this mother osprey is doing her best too drive off the raven. But the raven can weave and dodge her attacks like they were two fighter jets in an aerial dogfight. These poor osprey chicks didn't stand a chance from the get go. It's sad too see and i've witnessed similar kills from ravens myself. But it is the cycle of life and that raven has young too feed also.

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

Very well said. Corvids are extremely clever, agile, strong and opportunistic which makes them formidable predators. The Osprey chicks had no chance once their mother was lured away. All part of living a wild free life even if sad for us nest cam watchers to witness.

@dyates6380 Жыл бұрын

Simply outstanding footage. Thank you for sharing this raw look at nature.

@anacletwilliams8315 Жыл бұрын

Yes, a very raw look.

@JefferyCarr-fk9wb 2 жыл бұрын

I have witness Crow and Fox work together as a team when they attacked my chickens. The crow lead my rooster out to the wood line where a fox was waiting and ambushed my rooster, killing it and the crow went into the chicken coop and started to rip my chickens apart. That crow and fox had formulated a plan to kill them osprey. Sounds crazy but it's true.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Co-operative working does occur in nature sometimes, for example Honeyguides are birds that work with Honey Badgers and guide them to beehives. The Honey Badger smashes open the hive and the bird benefits by getting some of the honey.

@birdsintheburbs7414 Жыл бұрын

That's amazingly interesting Roosters put up a good fight protecting their hens :(

@almanook3005 Жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff A badger and a coyote will team up to hunt prairie dogs; only the coyote does not share the prize. The badger will dig at the entrance while the coyote waits at the other end for the hunted to emerge; then the coyote runs away with the prey in its mouth.

@iberianwildlife Жыл бұрын

Excellent video. From Spain, Iberian Wildlife subscribes to your channel.

@shelly3968 2 жыл бұрын

Oh no! I'm absolutely heartbroken! This is devastating news, the chicks were absolutely thriving Alma and Ossie were brilliant parents.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

It is devastating. To lose a chick is bad enough, but to lose Alma as well is just tragic.

@shelly3968 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff they are saying that they are going to rescue the chicks and put them in a nest that only has one chick...I'm wondering if they'll turn up with Nuppu and Ahti. Nest 1 cam is shut down while they do the move.

@shelly3968 2 жыл бұрын

Sorry Geemeff just saw your update stating nest 3 not suitable.

@pszemo7777 8 ай бұрын

Heartbroken you are??? Imagine how many other little singing birds will survive as one predator was eliminated. You are not heartbroken about birds being killed by these hawks?

@shelly3968 8 ай бұрын

@pszemo7777 as an Ospreys diet consists of fish and they are fish predators, your comment is misguided at best and nonsensical at worst. You may wish to do some research in future before challenging people.

@dukecourtoreille3004 2 жыл бұрын

what is moving in the background in the trees?... around 5:30 in till like 8 or so....around the large pine

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

It's all in the description.

@nicolanicholson4339 2 жыл бұрын

Come on masky, keep up ffs

@sylviakovessy 2 жыл бұрын

I can’t even watch the video. If I’d hear those cries it would be too much. I’ve seen too many deaths and heard their cries and it stays with me forever. Thank you for the video and information.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Take comfort in knowing Alma was fierce in trying to protect her chicks, and Ossi drove the raven away from the nest before it could finish its terrible work.

@sallyfarrer2597 2 жыл бұрын

It was awful to see, they’d just had a breakfast fish. Alma fought so hard then the raven came for the osplets, it’s was pretty grim…still not clear if they are being relocated…

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

They have been relocated. Alma was very brave..

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

See pinned comment with statement from the Osprey project - one of the relocated chicks survived, is thriving and has fledged.

@gregthegroove Жыл бұрын

That poor little one in the foreground is just absolutely terrified at the sight of what it’s seeing. It’s in shock.

@ceedub619cameraman3 Жыл бұрын

Lol.no ..birds don't experience human emotion

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

I'm not sure shock counts as a human emotion, I think it's more of a biological reaction. Certainly the chicks knew something was up but their instinct is to freeze, which doesn't help in this situation.

@ceedub619cameraman3 Жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff sensible response ...thanks ......the OP suggested the birds were terrified....thats just not possible.

@Ryuki19n Жыл бұрын

@@ceedub619cameraman3are you saying animals don’t a sense of fear? Be for real

@ceedub619cameraman3 Жыл бұрын

@@Ryuki19n it's more an instinctual feeling .....to compare a birds sense of fear with a humans is well .....excuse the pun......bird brained lol

@careykrause367 2 жыл бұрын

One chick cleverly lies so flat and quiet - as a leaf - yet pressing mightily onto the nest floor.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

The word commonly used for that is ‘pancaking’ ☺️

@ThunderStruckGaming Жыл бұрын

Always thought an Osprey could destroy a raven fairly easily especially with the extra added motivation of protecting her chicks. Didn't expect this outcome :(

@forastero54321 10 ай бұрын

Read the description.

@sabrinasokal 3 ай бұрын

@@forastero54321Or not and just watch without the spoilers 🤷🏼‍♀️

@carlwilliams6977 2 жыл бұрын

It amazes me when the adult leaves the chicks unattended to chase an intruder. There are so many Ravens around, the chicks are totally vulnerable!

@Sunrise-fr9jb Жыл бұрын

The raven killed the adult then came back

@godzillawithagun8233 Жыл бұрын

@@Sunrise-fr9jb no it didn’t 💀

@Unsichtbarer90 Жыл бұрын

@@Sunrise-fr9jb A raven can't kill such a predator.

@Sunrise-fr9jb Жыл бұрын

@@Unsichtbarer90 a raven is a bird of prey

@Sunrise-fr9jb Жыл бұрын

@@godzillawithagun8233 Watch the video. The crow came back with feathers on its beak. Mother is dead /wounded and then it killed the babies

@Gentledegenerate Жыл бұрын

Seeing the raven come back with feathers on its beak 😭 valiant but short effort from mom

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 ай бұрын

Dear Alma did her best but died trying to save her chicks - I agree, the Raven returning to attack the chicks with Alma's feathers on its beak is a chilling sight.

@sianthomas7176 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for updating us appreciate it

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

You can get more info direct from the Satakunta Osprey Project, the links are in the video description. Lots of fascinating info on their website.

@nickchu7743 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff thanks for the video such an eye-opener, and the information as well

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickchu7743 It was a horrible event but all part of living wild, so needs documenting as part of nest cam watching. Glad you found it informative.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@nickchu7743 See pinned comment for full statement from the Osprey project 25/7/2021. The relocated chicks were accepted into the new nest. There is good news about one of them - it is thriving and has fledged, Darvic ring SRS. Sadly the injured chick did not survive. The surving chick is the middle chick, chicks 1&3 died as a result of the raven attack

@nickchu7743 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff 🙂

@karimamin2 Жыл бұрын

Ospreys: Impeccable camouflage Raven: Sharingan!

@hamedkkl5174 Жыл бұрын

I didn't expect the bird world to be so cruel

@Halcyon1861 Жыл бұрын

Animals don't have a conscious so cruelty isn't in its DNA.

@adotintheshark4848 Жыл бұрын

you've never seen a hawk catch a sparrow

@23evulp8 Жыл бұрын

You should see humans bud. They have a cruelty that’s unmatched throughout the history of the earth.

@loudpackshawty5849 Жыл бұрын

Huh

@ceedub619cameraman3 Жыл бұрын

Cruel by your human standards

@edwardpeirce7324 Жыл бұрын

The reason I searched for this video is because I recently witnessed a large raven killing a smaller bird on my front lawn. I used to think they only scavenged.

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

They'll scavenge an easy meal but are also ferocious and clever predators.

@maryll3158 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing the video. This is an incredibly rare and tragic scene that leaves many unanswered questions. Namely, it's curious to imagine what events could have led up to this conflict and fateful moment for the Osprey family. Ravens are extremely intelligent corvids, more so than any other bird in the avian world. They are mostly known for being cunning pranksters and pestering birds of prey either for their own amusement and at other times when they want to snatch an easy meal. Also, they enjoy teasing other animals in general (similarly to crows) but it is almost unprecedented that they resort to such violence as seen here. Normally they are quite protective of their territory and it's common for a mated pair of ravens to chase off encroaching birds of prey the instant they are spotted miles away. However, until this video, I have never seen ravens behaving as violent as this. Almost always they will employ a 'dive bombing' technique when they feel threatened by a bird of prey, such as can be seen in the first part of this video. They will repeatedly circle and swoop down close to the intruder (or nest) and keep repeating in an attempt to stave off the threatening bird of prey. Likewise, birds of prey will use this same technique towards corvids when they are foraging for food on the ground and are mostly vulnerable. Mated ravens will always work in pairs (juveniles in groups) when attempting to steal a meal. The simple strategy entails first one raven distracting the bird of prey (or animal) in question, then while distracted, the other raven will dive in and steal the meal. They are surgical in this approach. But unfortunately, its unclear in this video whether there were a pair of ravens working together or if it was a solitary raven. The latter would be extremely rare. This leads one to hypothesize several possible reasons for this violent outbreak. 1) Effects of deforestation and subsequent loss of natural habitat increases competition among ravens and birds of prey, 2) The Raven's mate was seriously injured by the adult Osprey or 3) The Raven's own chicks were injured or maimed by the Osprey. We will never really know. Yet as distasteful and heartbreaking as this scene is, it is important it was captured on video to aid in further scientific study of avian behaviour in the wild.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to leave a detailed and thoughtful comment. I am not an expert, just an enthusiastic observer, but would agree with points 1 & 2 of your hypotheses - as wild land shrinks, the competition for space increases and more species will feel threatened by neighbours getting closer. It's unlikely the Raven's chicks were attacked by the Ospreys who are piscivorous, exclusively fish-eaters, and don't attack other nests but will defend their own. I feel that only one Raven was involved in the attack - the Raven that Alma flew after to chase away returned with her feathers stuck to its beak, evidence of their fight in the forest and thus the same Raven. My interpretation of it at any rate.

@sunnykim4093 2 жыл бұрын

Wow

@deebop4904 2 жыл бұрын

Deforestation?? Seriously dude

@C_AVATAR 2 жыл бұрын

I think Ospreys are not programmed to fight since they are fisher eaters? They don't seem to be fighters like other birds.

@user-wp5wo7qq6r Жыл бұрын

there is a bad Raven living in the woods near my house, he attack me as long as I wear the white helmet when I ride by

@michaellee9883 Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know what happened at the end of the video? It appears to me that a wolf ate the momma osprey that was injured by the raven. Did I get that right?

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

Yes. It was a fox. It’s all in the description.

@michaellee9883 Жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff thank you

@MohammedAli-jv3yk Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂 that boy said y’all not sleeping good here

@andreafinke8734 2 жыл бұрын

Big, big tragedy. There are news about Ossi and a new girl? Greetings from Germany

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you - sending you greetings from the UK. It looks like Ossi has a new mate, I am happy for him. Rest in peace Alma and the two little chicks, I hope the one who survived to fledge is still flying high and free.

@andreafinke8734 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff Thanks for answer and finger cross.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@andreafinke8734 👍

@josemartinezgonzalez2450 2 жыл бұрын

Tremendas imágenes.

@virgilpine9712 Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised that the raven was able to defeat the osprey mother. I thought that ospreys were more formidable than ravens.

@forastero54321 10 ай бұрын

If you bothered to read the description it is thought to believe that the osprey must have injured her wings on the trees when fending off the raven and became vulnerable to attacks.

@jedsteelwell2354 3 ай бұрын

Ravens will slap these things down

@deftaakira9028 2 жыл бұрын

do osprey and raven weigh the same?

@JDIY2023 2 жыл бұрын

they fly the same

@tomtalker2000 2 жыл бұрын

People have to understand that while this is heart breaking too watch. It's also a part of nature. "Survival of the fittest" as the old saying goes. Corvids which comprise of; Ravens, Crows, Jackdaws, Rooks, Magpies, Jays, & Nutcrackers ARE predatory birds when need be. Where they lack the talons of a bird of prey they make up for TEN FOLD in there sheer beak power alone. Raven's have VERY sharp and strong beaks with a slightly hooked tip that is made for tearing flesh. In my 30yrs in the avian field dealing "hands on" with everything from Warblers to Birds of Prey. I have witnessed while out in the field Ravens killing; puffins, rabbits, pigeons, rats, etc...They are massive birds at 24-27in with a 4-4.5ft wingspan weighing in around 2.5lbs. They also get A LOT of respect from raptors such as hawks and eagles. Because they are there "aerial equivalent" in terms of flying. As a matter of fact they often pick "dog fights" with hawk and eagles just for the sheer delight of it. And can VERY easily keep pace with them when doing so. They can soar, tumble, and roll in flight just as well as any bird of prey. They are also HIGHLY intelligent birds capable of human speech as good as any parrot. And can figure out complex puzzles with ease. They form extremely strong family bonds with there partners and young. So they are definitely a bird that commands respect. They hold a special place for me of all the birds i've worked with. And never cease to amaze me with there intelligence and ingenuity. The same goes for there smaller crow cousins.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Very well said. All part of nature. Corvids are extremely smart, here are some using humans to assist them. They place hard nuts on a traffic crossing, allowing the cars to drive over them and crack them open, then wait for the lights to change before hopping down to eat the nuts in safety. Ingenious! www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p007xvww

@christianWilliams-pc4jn Жыл бұрын

Why did the parent osprey give up so easily? Why didn't it just stay in the next and go head to head with the raven? It's a large raptor it would have won the fight why wouldn't it stay and fight the Raven at all cost? Certainly wouldn't have happened with a golden eagle. I would love to see a raven try that with a golden eagle nest

@tomtalker2000 Жыл бұрын

@Popcorn gang Your really shouldn't because Ravens are a protected species. And just because it's having too feed it's own young. Is no reason for you too kill an animal you deem not fit too survive. That isn't your call too make my friend.

@tomtalker2000 Жыл бұрын

@@christianWilliams-pc4jn Golden Eagles are MUCH larger and more powerful then Osprey's for starters. Secondly i've seen Ravens having aerial dog fights with Ravens. Just when the eagle thinks it can turn over in flight and expose it's talons the ravens know this and dodge them perfectly. Not saying a golden eagle couldn't kill a raven as they could very easily. But the ravens are simply doing one of two things. Having fun harassing the raptor or driving it away from their own young. Often at carrion kills i see them pulling hawks and eagles tail feathers too move them. It's a "cat and mouse" game between the two of them. Until usually the raptor gets fed up and leaves. Plus, no raptor wants 4 or 5 ravens harassing it constantly.

@christianWilliams-pc4jn Жыл бұрын

@@tomtalker2000 yeah I know that they're much bigger and more powerful than Ospreys, but my point is an ospreys more powerful than a raven. If it just stayed at the nest and not been intimidated it could drive the Raven away. Ospreys don't have a lot of heart or spine, this would not happen with other raptors that do.

@whoeverwhoever400 Жыл бұрын

Animals that can live their full lives in the wild are extremely lucky and blessed.

@Dr.IanPlect Жыл бұрын

No, it's nature, no mythology involved.

@jamesofallthings3684 Жыл бұрын

Full life? Your full life is however long you happen to live.

@Quantumanticz Жыл бұрын

As a trapper in the west gate area of Yellowstone, It is very very common to see fox, bobcat, coyote and even wolves near crows. Predators definitely know crows mean dinner. Heck a crow call is used to call in Cougars.

@EnviousDemon116 5 күн бұрын

Guys this ain’t true, the ACTUAL story is much sadder than this. The mom was with her 3 kids when the raven appeared, she flew off to fight the dam bird but in the back you can see her fall to the ground in the trees with the raven alive and well, it immediately flew to the nest and killed at least 1 chick before being scared off by a resident male. It’s hard to see but in the back, you can see a fox appearing and killing the mom while she was down, the surviving chicks were relocated somewhere else.

@Halcyon1861 Жыл бұрын

Where I work they have large platforms for the osprey. They are everywhere. Seeing the chicks is like seeing cars on the road. I've also helped get fishing hooks out of them when I fish at a pier at the beach. They dive at our live baits and they won't stop. We've used air horns, clapping and yelling. They grab the fish and get the treble hooks then we catch a osprey. Get it up quick, towel on it, towel on the talon, pliers and wire cutters. One day there were so many osprey we packed it up for the day no reason to fish.

@chrislapp9468 Жыл бұрын

Well, at least nobody said "thoughts and prayers to the Osprey...."

@mikekayanderson408 2 жыл бұрын

Geemeff - if the chics are relocated how with the male be able to find and feed them or will they be hand reared???

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's intended for the remaining parent to find them, the idea is for the adults at the new nest, which has only one chick, to adopt them. But I'll be looking out for further updates from the mods, and will post if anything changes with this situation. I get my information from www.saaksilive.fi/ , all their links are in the descriptions on my video clips if you want to update yourself.

@mikekayanderson408 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff thanks - I do hope the idea/plan for adoption works - but won't the adults in a new nest sense a different smell??? But guess the humans doing the relocation will wear gloves.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikekayanderson408 I'm sure the Osprey Project staff will take all factors into consideration in order to achieve a successful relocation.

@ias400 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikekayanderson408, birds(at least raptors) don't really have a usable sense of smell. If they did, they couldn't have nests full of (rotting) carrion -- tomorrow's lunch. What is even more amazing is they don't seem to be able count very well either; not only with chicks, but with eggs as well. That's how parasitic breeders reproduce.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@mikekayanderson408 See pinned comment for full statement from the Osprey project 25/7/2021. The relocated chicks were accepted into the new nest. There is good news about one of them - it is thriving and has fledged, Darvic ring SRS. Sadly the injured chick did not survive. The surving chick is the middle chick, chicks 1&3 died as a result of the raven attack

@maskerao Жыл бұрын

There were 2 ravens, it's their tactic. One distract the parents and the other tears apart the chick, and then they switch. Magnificent.

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

Good theory. However, please note it's the same raven who returns after fatally attacking the female parent - her feathers are stuck to its beak.

@heySTUPIDass Жыл бұрын

Every nature video commenter: "People need to REALIZE this is nature" "Omg its amazing the animals are animals"

@FairladyS130 Жыл бұрын

Having a nest in such a highly visible position is not very clever, much easier to spot by a predator.

@briendoyle3823 Жыл бұрын

I know it's nature and just a normal part of life. But damn it still hurts to see chicks being killed.

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

Yes indeed, normal and upsetting at the same time.

@xfilesmanson 2 жыл бұрын

If the Raven showed up with both parents in the nest what would have happened?

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

The Raven wouldn't have landed with both parents there.

@cocojumbo8079 Жыл бұрын

This is so upsetting

@landflame Жыл бұрын

有效镜头太少可以剪辑一下

@LeesTexan 11 ай бұрын

What i don't understand it the Raven did not even take the baby away for food or eat it some while the Raven was on the nest. It seemed like a murder to get rid of the Osprey in their territory. Also did the Raven work with the Fox to ambush Alma when she went after the Raven?

@ericmed Жыл бұрын

Considering how many Ravens/Crows are devastated by Hawks and birds of prey and their high level of intelligence

@callie.colwick Жыл бұрын

Darn KZfaq algorithm!! I watched one cute bird video and now my entire feed is sad videos of baby birds being murdered. My heart can’t take this! 😭💔

@kairatkempirbaev7183 Жыл бұрын

Death per minute count is insane. Raven kills this nest, bear kills unlucky one in the back.

@koreanature Жыл бұрын

Wow, My best friend, Wonderful video dear. I enjoyed watching. Hope to see you soon...

@Cletus_the_Elder Жыл бұрын

Ravens have been getting all sorts of good press on this site, with videos of their intelligence and their ability to relate to human videographers. This reminds me that, despite the positive coverage, animals do what animals do. They all deserve our attention and protection, but I feel a little silly now for getting drawn in by those videos attributing human traits to birds.

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

Anthropomorphism is always a danger when dealing with or relating to animals. But it can be very hard to avoid, especially when animals exhibit traits we recognise such as appearing to show grief, or humour, for example. My dog once accidentally bit my hand when we were playing tug, I shifted my hand on the rope toy just as he went to grab it and his teeth sank right in, lots of blood, hurt like mad, I screamed. I went to disinfect and bandage my hand, it wasn't a bad wound, but he wouldn't leave me alone. He was glued to my side like velcro, tail down, looking a picture of misery. He kept nudging me and wagging his tail slightly, whining softly, until I finished cleaning up and told him it was ok. For the rest of that day he kept coming over and rubbing against me. The only way I can possibly interpret that is to say he knew he'd made an error, was really sorry, and was concerned for me. Granted, he was my pet and lived in my house, but there are many instances of wild animals behaving in a way we would recognise - think of elephants visiting the remains of one of their herd, and gently picking up and replacing the bones.

@Dannyflump Жыл бұрын

bro the chicks are babys they are no harms, why the raven have to do those to the chicks

@jamesofallthings3684 Жыл бұрын

I think you're more foolish for thinking these aren't human traits. Chimps are one of the most needlessly violent creatures on the planet. We're not some special enlightened beings. Literally the only thing between a somewhat safe society and total mad max is fear. Their fear of being caged or worse outweighs their chimp impulses, most of the time.

@pusangering 2 жыл бұрын

Very very sad for the osprey family

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, and for the staff and volunteers at the Osprey project, and the nest cam watchers too.

@aurenitapedrazzi5036 Жыл бұрын

So, what is the outcome of this video?

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 ай бұрын

It's all in the description. Two of the three chicks died, one during the attack and the second later from its injuries. The mother Alma also died. The third chick was placed in a foster nest and survived to fledge. The father Ossi returned to the empty nest occasionally but wasn't seen the following year. We don't know what happened to him.

@Foreskin-Forest 4 ай бұрын

It always amazes me how HUGE ravens can get, big ol birds right there

@worldtoday9244 Жыл бұрын

Why is there a camera watching the nest as it doesn't stop these attacks on the chick's.

@mojaboswahorne5990 Ай бұрын

What was the core reasoning for the bird to kill the young ? Where did the beef come from?! 😢

@B61Mod12 Жыл бұрын

Wow, tragic.

@wtfnationwide1065 Жыл бұрын

Does the mother ever comes back after attacks like this?

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

The mother, Alma, was killed in the attack otherwise she would have come back.

@Gojo-pb2pj 18 сағат бұрын

Who came from the mama eagle edit from your history teacher

@gamingwithpeete2164 2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting and also very sad but it’s nature can’t really do much

@MrDonteallen Жыл бұрын

These cameras are ass man this is unacceptable i cud barely tell what was what...that aside it still is great footage but tough to watch anything suffer but gives you a better glimpse of the ferociousness of birds because most dont make it out ✊️

@codyking4848 11 ай бұрын

This is incredible. Yes, it's sad, but it's the whole circle of life captured in one video. One minute everything is fine, the next, Alma is being taken by a fox, two babies are dead or dying, third survives, and Ossi is starting over.

@vivahernando1 Жыл бұрын

Man the Ravens really beat up on the Seahawks. Shouldnt have traded Russ

@egud2472 11 ай бұрын

Шо сьо було?

@Profatniteplayer 2 жыл бұрын

I feel so bad for the ospreys but it’s nature but really sad

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, sad for us but as you say, this is how nature works.

@donnitarosem 23 күн бұрын

you can see the life leave the first chick who got attacked after the black bird left 😢

@edmacu 2 жыл бұрын

It never crossed my mind that a raven could kill an osprey. How's that even possible?

@carlwilliams6977 2 жыл бұрын

The fox killed the adult (Alma). I don't know if she had a broken wing or what, but obviously she was grounded. The white stuff on the face of the Raven when it returns to the nest makes me think he got a piece of her. If you're asking how the Raven killed the chicks, they're considerably smaller at this stage. Osprey aren't the most maneuverable bird in close cover, which is why they don't like to have a canopy over the nest. Ravens on the other hand are aerobatic acrobats!

@edmacu 2 жыл бұрын

@@carlwilliams6977 Thanks for clarifying. I'm referring to alma. I really thought that adult ospreys, since they're hawk/falcon-like, wouldn't get defeated easily by ravens.

@carlwilliams6977 2 жыл бұрын

@@edmacu Osprey are raptors (like eagles, Hawks, owls). Birds of prey, with talons and beaks designed to rip flesh. Ravens and crows are Corvids, with superior intelligence, but no such weaponry. In addition, they are considerably smaller than an osprey. So, you're correct, generally they don't have the tools to seriously challenge an adult Osprey, though they will strafe them and harass them. So, we don't know what happened, but once she was on the ground, she was no match for a fox! This was obviously a territorial attack by the Ravens, as they couldn't even carry the chicks away to eat them (no talons). Osprey are the only raptor that only eats fish, so they really aren't a threat to the Corvid! Yet the Corvid sees them as a threat, and makes life difficult for the Osprey!

@edmacu 2 жыл бұрын

@@carlwilliams6977 Well, it goes to show that brains can nullify physical advantage. Thank you very much for your very knowledgeable response. It has educated me greatly. I really appreciate something like this.

@carlwilliams6977 2 жыл бұрын

@@edmacu My pleasure! If you want to see what an incredible bird the Osprey is, check this out! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/i7d5dtGn38mydmQ.html

@kabesa86 2 жыл бұрын

How did happen that a fox kill Alma?

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Alma was wounded by the raven while trying to protect her chicks and fell to the ground unable to fly. That's when the fox came along.

@kabesa86 2 жыл бұрын

A series of unfortunate events. Thanks for answering

@orangepenguin7782 5 ай бұрын

It just happens because a Crow has to find food and there may be a scarcity of food for the crow so sadly it just has to eat the baby birds it just has to.

@GeemeffGeemeff 5 ай бұрын

Yes, just nature taking its course.

@ValerianoLopez-qg7dc 2 ай бұрын

Alguien me dice que calle de pájaro es el que está Chitando por sus hijos 😢😢

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 ай бұрын

Comment translated: Someone tells me what kind of bird is the one who is screaming for his children Response: Estas son las águilas pescadoras (Pandion Haliaetus) (These are Ospreys (Pandion Haliaetus))

@spyguy8681 5 ай бұрын

Never seen a crow pant like that. He really looks scary

@mrseroth Жыл бұрын

How he kill them he broke the neck?

@Funktastico 8 ай бұрын

The dead chick was the one got ravaged on the mouth ? Whilst the one got injured at back of the neck survived ?

@GeemeffGeemeff 8 ай бұрын

@Funktastico Two of the three chicks were killed. One outright during the Raven attack as seen in the video, and the second one that got pecked viciously during the attack died later of its injuries or from shock. The third chick, the one that moved away to the left, survived and went on to fledge from the foster nest it was placed into. Dad Ossi hung around for a bit afterwards, but failed to return the following year, and this nest has a new resident pair now.

@auna. 11 ай бұрын

これどうやって撮影したんだろう… こんな高い場所に良くカメラを設置したなぁ

@kirtinarzary1510 Жыл бұрын

Single crow cannot defeat....might be multiple crows were there ..very intelligent move

@sowrtemper8006 Жыл бұрын

The Raven really laughing at them before killing them GOATED

@janetturner7489 2 жыл бұрын

Oh I am glad for the safe relocation of the two chicks. Sad for loyal Alma who fought to defend her brood. Poor Ossi, though, hope he fares well in the future. Thanks Geemeff for the information.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Dear Ossi, I hope he will find a new mate next year. This has been a terrible year for Ospreys.

@janetturner7489 2 жыл бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff oh yes, bless his heart. I sometimes wonder how they work through their trauma.

@elena6149 Жыл бұрын

Где же их мама😢

@Mhats Жыл бұрын

remember that the lord has a plan for us all

@tonyz7216 2 жыл бұрын

Raven, magpies etc... regularly attack bird of preys. Biologists call this phenomenon mobbing. Bird of preys are perceived as potential predators and competitors for food. Nature is hard, felt the pain for the chick.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly the injured chick did not survive, so chicks 1&3 died as a result of the raven attack. But the good news is the middle chick is thriving and has fledged, Darvic ring SRS.

@user-BaSllh17siliGzjjy6Gllhjo Жыл бұрын

Nice meal for foxy 🦊 Sad for Raven ;( still hungry.

@austin1839 2 жыл бұрын

This is tragic. Please keep in mind that the American Viewers stand with you in this time of grief. We wish you the best for the surviving chicks, Ossi and next season.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. It's been a tough year world-wide, I'm thinking of Barnegat Light in the States, losing their chick. Best wishes to Ospreys everywhere, and their fans too.

@ceedub619cameraman3 Жыл бұрын

Lmao!!!

@axelwycks195 Жыл бұрын

WOW Ravens are amazing !

@JuanGonzalez-uf1wn 17 күн бұрын

Ermosa gravasion😊

@tinalyles1291 2 жыл бұрын

So sad

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

Yes. But nature's way.

@penboyasgod6103 Жыл бұрын

Interesting how KZfaq allows this graphic murderous violence, but won't allow a little bit of nudity where no one gets hurt.

@Christopher070 2 жыл бұрын

I pray both those surviving chicks make it. They looked so scared and traumatized after the attack.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

The relocated chicks were accepted into the new nest. There is good news about one of them - it is thriving and has fledged, Darvic ring SRS. Sadly the injured chick did not survive. The surving chick is the middle chick, chicks 1&3 died as a result of the raven attack.

@user-jj3ug1bk7u 2 жыл бұрын

What hapen

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

@@user-jj3ug1bk7u It's all in the description, google translate is helpful if you prefer to read it in your own language

@Jamezy316 11 ай бұрын

@@GeemeffGeemeff wait what? I can see #1 dying since it stopped moving after the attack and all. But the 2nd chcik was the other one to be attacked by the Raven, where as chick 3 wasnt even touched by the Raven

@bartvannimmen 2 жыл бұрын

This is nature the real and hard way. The raven seems rather slender and slim on the breast, hungry and voracious; for sure they too have a nest of hungry siblings to feed … that’ s the way it goes…

@benwui4321 Жыл бұрын

The truth is when this young chicks grow up they will be as 10 times ruthless as the crow...life goes on.

@GeemeffGeemeff Жыл бұрын

Ospreys are piscivorous, meaning they only eat fish. So no birds will be attacked by them except in defence of their young.

@saintmichael2759 Жыл бұрын

@3:50 Go mom!!!

@lilianarodriguez1928 Жыл бұрын

Imagine… seeing his chicks get attacked and 1 killed then also witnessing his mate of many years already being killed by a fox!! 😢 It must of been so devastating for Ossi! Lost of chicks & mate all in the same day. 😔 And I say lost all his chicks because like it says in the description, he can’t take care of them by himself. They would most likely die on him or get killed by something else! So they had to remove the remaining chics & place them in a different nest that still has both parents. I know it’s been over a year since this happened, but I still remember Alma & Ossie together! They were awesome parents to many chicks that made it to fledglings! Very, very sad ending 😞

@adotintheshark4848 Жыл бұрын

Ossi currently is undergoing counseling

@lucylulu1544 11 ай бұрын

Raven came in with feathers in it’s beak. I would think it killed mom.

@suzannefranklin7946 2 жыл бұрын

Why would the parents not be more protective?

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

They are! But in this case dad was away fishing, and mum Alma tried to drive the Raven away from the nest but unfortunately injured herself flying through the forest and fell to the ground where the fox got her. The Raven then returned to the unguarded nest until he was chased away by dad Ossi in time to save one of the chicks. A tragedy for the Osprey family and us nest cam watchers, but a natural event.

@elegantbird2386 2 жыл бұрын

Apparently the fox didn't carry off Alma? A Mod on site told me after I mentioned it.

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

It looks like the fox was rooting around the area in the forest where the fight with the raven took place, there is a lot of random movement and some flashes of white when I zoomed in, then the fox suddenly runs off. I feel like that white was Alma, my opinion only, based on what I saw on a not 100% clear zoomed in picture.

@user-fh2pm8ls5u 2 жыл бұрын

can't get it, HOW did raven defeated an osprey, even kill it? Toughest of birds?

@GeemeffGeemeff 2 жыл бұрын

You might want to read the description.

@chrysology Жыл бұрын

Big ups, congrats, and salutations to the remarkable raven in this incredible video. What a performance! A stunning display of grace, intelligence, beauty, and power.