The Yugoslav Wars - History, Hatred, and War Crimes

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Costing the lives of over 130,000 people, the Yugoslav Wars and resulting conflicts are marked with war crimes, genocide, and ethnic cleansing, and is one of the worst humanitarian crises that occurred since WWII.
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@Anonim_Anonimovic
@Anonim_Anonimovic Жыл бұрын
What most people seem to forget is that Serbia, like any other country in the world, has ordinary, normal, non-ultranationalist civilians living in it. People who were by chance born there and are simply trying to live their lives the best they can, people who suffered due to the decisions of politicians they did not vote for. Calling all Serbs evil is like calling all Croats fascists, all Muslims terrorists, all Germans nazis, etc you get the idea.
@Anonim_Anonimovic
@Anonim_Anonimovic Жыл бұрын
@@gloopdogg4861 Telling me to speak in my own name, then saying 'Serbs will fight anybody' is contradictory. Didn't you just do the same? Besides, defending one's home, nation, people, there is nothing wrong with this, and with this I agree. Propagating violence between neighbouring peoples because of the actions of a handful fascist or ultranationalist paramilitaries and corrupt politicians is wrong. Your stance seems to imply that every single Croat, Bosnian, Albanian, etc. down to the last child is a knife-wielding maniac jumping at opportunities to slaughter Serbs. I know people of all Balkan nations, and I've yet to meet one that propagates any sort of hatred toward Serbs. Most are just regular people, just like most of us. Every nation has extremists, that doesn't mean that every single person of that nation is evil. So, yes, I am advocating for peace between the common folk, because there is no sense in hating entire nations due to the actions of a handful of extremists on all sides. Not all Croats are Ustase. Not all Bosnians and Albanians are Muslim extremists. It is those same 'empires' that are instigating us to fight amongst each other, because it suits them to have us divided so that they may manipulate us. Besides, it's very easy being brave behind a keyboard. From what I can see, the most staunch 'patriots' in our country are now those who have never fired a single bullet in its defense, nor would have the guts to do so.
@resanana
@resanana Жыл бұрын
That is the narative, when you tell about crimes from less liked country you flag the whole nation and say SERBS KILLED INOCENT MUSLIMS & CROATS, but if you need to report about crimes from the other side you say ULTRA NACIONALIST MOVEMENT FROM CROATIA OR BOSNIA KILLED SOME CIVILIANS. Difference is existing in naming both the EXECUTIONER AND THE VICTIM.
@gloopdogg4861
@gloopdogg4861 Жыл бұрын
@@Anonim_Anonimovic In this world are big problem people like you who level up all wars,thay kill,we kill everybody is same and that is level of you ignorance,so you will look the same Serbs if we was with Hitler and Nazi in WW2,you look same at Nazist and Soviets or im i wrong...Go visit Kosovo and be with Serbs who are sorunded by Albanians,go and see destroyed grave stones,all that heppening right now in 2022,go and see foreign solders who protect Christian Ortodox monanstirs and churches when about 60 % is destroyed by Albanians,after thet go in Belgrade or any Serbian city and ask Albanians if they live good there or Serbs atack them...Go and see,dont be a keyboard peace maker coz no metter how many likes you got they dont mean TRUTH
@johnman8554
@johnman8554 Жыл бұрын
i get the idea but unfortunately 80 percent of them stand with Milošević and war criminals, that idea i dont get
@klikic
@klikic Жыл бұрын
Serbian people are lovely people, with lovely culture of music, movies and sports. Greetings from a Bosnian-Croat
@turntapeover5749
@turntapeover5749 8 ай бұрын
My uncle was a UN blue helmet who was deployed in the Bosnian war. It wasnt his first deployment but Bosnia was his last. It was a completely traumatic experience. This is the only mission he was sent on that he still refuses to talk about.
@lorenagonzalez71
@lorenagonzalez71 6 ай бұрын
the cowardice of those dutch "soldiers".
@Nada-xy2xk
@Nada-xy2xk 6 ай бұрын
Onaj tko je poslao vašeg ujaka u Bosnu iz iste je kuhinje tko je zakuhao rat u Korei, Vijetnamu Jugoslaviji , Iraku , Libiji , Siriji , Kongu ,Sudanu ,Ukraina , Palestina cijena je milijunske žrtve I buduća zarista da bi zločinci gomilali profit monstruozno.
@MarioWasntHere
@MarioWasntHere 5 ай бұрын
Ah yes lemme guess, they werent using soap
@Laksilaks
@Laksilaks 5 ай бұрын
​@@MarioWasntHere OK iliketopoop 6651
@viktorkoch622
@viktorkoch622 5 ай бұрын
So, my dear comrades with a 5kg heavy diamond cross on your chest. What the Dutch officer and the soldiers did was not correct and not right! They were soldiers and you won't believe it: "They followed orders!". The uncle of @turntapeover5749 knows exactly what he did. We cannot and may not judge him because he followed orders. Only God will judge him and the people who were murdered by "JNA" (And in JNA soldiers serving, too. Crazy NOT???). My grandfather was in the same situation as an officer of the Red Army when they attacked Poland on both sides with the Germans in 1939 (pay check came on Jun 1941, as he was in Kiev). He never talked about it and took it to his grave. Was it good to stab a neighbor in the back with a dagger when he is lying on the ground and defending himself against kicks? Guess what: "No!". Soldiers follow orders! And they wear the greatest and heaviest cross that neither shines nor is gilded with diamonds. PS: I am not proud to write this text at all.
@superymariowest2403
@superymariowest2403 Жыл бұрын
Greetings from Bosnia and Herzegovina 🇧🇦 very well informed video. 85% of the population that lived through the war suffer from PTSD, often crippling. 60-70% of those born after the war also have PTSD, second hand. The governments are corrupt, barely functional, and play on old nationalism to cover up their own incompetence and reignite ideas of Serb independence. Young people just want to live normal lives so they leave for the West by the hundreds of thousands every year. Every family has someone who lives abroad, someone that died or was handicapped in the war, and someone permanently changed by it.
@user-hp9vg9wz6o
@user-hp9vg9wz6o Жыл бұрын
A lot of crap. This is the cia version. Almost nothing about the infliction from the uk-/us-nazis in the beginning and the continuing conflict.
@dzivri
@dzivri Жыл бұрын
I was an 8yo kid in Macedonia, and I could say I too had PTSD, even though the war was far from home. I would watch the news every day and I would listen to my father and his friends discussing specific events. I remember a few quotes vividly: “They put them in a basement and set them ablaze” “They were skinning them alive” “They killed a little girl” None of these quotes had come from personal experience of any of the people discussing them. It was all things they’d seen on TV and things they’d heard. I would have nightmares very very frequently. It was mostly bearded chetniks going after me with knives, or being caught in bombardment and gunfire. I had told myself-next time this happens, just remind yourself that it’s a dream and open your eyes. One night, I did exactly that (or at least I thought I did) and I found myself in a different war scene. It was absolute horror. I can’t even begin to imagine what you poor souls in Bosnia were going through as you were literally living my nightmares. 🇲🇰❤🇧🇦
@reddog5031
@reddog5031 Жыл бұрын
Is it correct that Bosnia Herz got stripped of almost all it's coastline by the Croats?
@superymariowest2403
@superymariowest2403 Жыл бұрын
@@reddog5031 Bosnia and Herzegovina had an opportunity to have a larger chunk on land south of Dubrovnik but 1 specific politician chose Neum instead. As a result, Bosnia has only 22 kilometers of coastline that is right splitting Croatia.
@ogaduby
@ogaduby Жыл бұрын
@@reddog5031 no. In 17th century, Dubrovnik gave parts of its coast to Ottomans (Bosnia was an Ottoman province) to make a buffer from Venice. Venice held Dalmatian coast before it fell into Habsburgs Monarchy, which then became Croatia, but Neum stayed Bosnian.
@semird615
@semird615 Жыл бұрын
As a Muslim born in Serbia while this madness was taking place, I can say that politics are pure evil. Today I have a bunch of friends that are Serbs and I never had had hatred towards anyone. It still baffles me how people who lived together in peace for decades could suddenly want to kill each other off. My hometown could’ve turned into Srebrenica too but luckily it didn’t so we have to find a way to past this. Today Albanians, Bosnians, Serbs and Croats do the dirty work all over Europe often, often working together with no issues. I just hope anything like this never repeats…
@Yawnymcsnore
@Yawnymcsnore Жыл бұрын
Islam is evil
@BaneTrogdor
@BaneTrogdor Жыл бұрын
Ordinary normal people don't hate anyone, Yugoslavia was dragged into war and unfortunately political elites manufactured hatred by exploiting the history of Balkans and brainwashed people's minds.. Pozdrav iz Srbije
@zeik04
@zeik04 Жыл бұрын
Where is Islem there is suffering and wars. There never was and never will be a peacefull are in world as long as there is muslums
@semird615
@semird615 Жыл бұрын
@@zeik04 Islam is the clfasteat growing religion in the world, soon to be No. 1 in the world. How do you explain that ? There should be wars in Germany and France right now, right ?
@isbuayne
@isbuayne Жыл бұрын
because 60% of people are absolute npc's that you can controll like puppets. 20% are good and 20% are evil. i guess in your case 20% of evil guys were running everything and managed to silence the other 20% + influence the 60% of the sheep to do bad things.
@sbcee2220
@sbcee2220 2 жыл бұрын
Just realized this video was not monetized. Simon, this is exactly the type and length of video I'm most happy to support! What demonetized it this time, just the mere mention of the Nazis? Loving Warographics, even the Emu War!
@justinjenkins2682
@justinjenkins2682 2 жыл бұрын
It's monetized as I'm watching it, at least I'm getting ads and I think that means it's monetized right?
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 2 жыл бұрын
@@justinjenkins2682 KZfaq can put adds on demonitized videos, it just means they get the whole bag from the add.
@lyleslaton3086
@lyleslaton3086 2 жыл бұрын
Simon has simply made so much money, he has moved to philanthropy.😊
@-MarcusAurelius
@-MarcusAurelius 2 жыл бұрын
@@samwill7259 That’s really shady. “Sorry you can’t make money from this video but we can”… the f*ck.
@samwill7259
@samwill7259 2 жыл бұрын
@@-MarcusAurelius Welcome to the wonderful wide world of KZfaq :D
@feraldelight
@feraldelight 2 жыл бұрын
I cannot express how grateful I am to my parents for moving us from Yugoslavia to Canada. We have family all over, Serbia, Croatia, Macedonia. It was terrifying for them, and there was nothing we could do. Thank you for bringing light to these events so eloquently and completely unbiased. Very well written and presented.
@noth606
@noth606 2 жыл бұрын
I know it probably doesn't mean much, but some of the friendliest people I have met were Croats, Serbians and Bosniacs, I don't pick sides, it isn't for me to do. But my stomach loves them all, I was never allowed to leave without being fed until I couldn't eat more. The whole thing with the war in the 90s is very sad to me, knowing the feelings on each side I understand why it happened but I wish it hadn't gone that way.
@alexander-mauricemillamlae4567
@alexander-mauricemillamlae4567 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering, what's your family's last name? My mothers' family's had similar situations of sorts, and our people just migrated everywhere in a way, both within Yugoslavia, but also to Germany, Switzerland, Austria, the US and Canada. Mother's last name is Sabljo
@feraldelight
@feraldelight 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexander-mauricemillamlae4567 My Family name is Marinkovic. 😊
@cecearen5129
@cecearen5129 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard some stories from my ex-mother in law who was born in Serbia in 1944. I'm glad Simon brought this little known history (little known in America) to KZfaq.
@mytruecrimelibrary
@mytruecrimelibrary 2 жыл бұрын
Canadian here. I had a lot of friends in the 90s that were refugees from Yugoslavia, very lovely people. ❤️ Now my daughter is dating a wonderful young man who immigrated here during the war in Yugoslavia. I'm glad your family made it here and that you are happy to be Canadian.
@mattiemathis9549
@mattiemathis9549 9 ай бұрын
Before I retired, I would occasionally encounter people seeking asylum in America. I don’t remember if they were Bosnian or Serbian, but there were seven men. The look in their eyes reminded me of what my dad called “a thousand yard stare.” They had seen so much death and destruction, probably dealt out some as well. Of all the people I encountered, these seven men were the only ones who scared me. Its been over 20 years and I still remember the look in their eyes. When I was in Europe, because of the “unrest”, I wasn’t allowed to see what was Yugoslavia at the time. It’s sad that so many people died. I hope all the governments of the respective countries are able to sustain peace. I hope the people prosper and thrive.
@wngmv
@wngmv 5 ай бұрын
One of my coworkers is a croat refugee. She came over when she was 6 or 7. She said that she came right before July 4th. When she and her sister heard the fireworks they ducked towards the bushes because they thought they were being bombed again.
@nkotur
@nkotur 4 ай бұрын
​@@wngmvI am Serb from Belgrade, Serbia, all my childhood i was under embargo, sanctions, dictatorship...1999 got bombed every day,78 days straight (ok i lie, it was 78 nights actually, always at night so we cant sleep) ... It was ok.
@zvonkom
@zvonkom Жыл бұрын
I was born there and lived through those horrific events. To this day it's not easy to watch and remember. Left a huge dark hole in my heart. Incredible sadness impossible to explain. Thank you so much for excellent research and video.
@simoncampbell3144
@simoncampbell3144 3 ай бұрын
I wasn't born there but it's affected me for nearly 30 years
@Googledeservestodie
@Googledeservestodie 2 жыл бұрын
One of the saddest echoes of the Yugoslav conflict is the material left behind and still in use. Landmines dot the country and pose a threat to anyone out for a game of football or a casual walk, and Yugoslav weapons like AK styled assault rifles were made in mass quantities, so many that you can even still buy them for quite cheap. Naturally these guns have fallen into the wrong hands countless times in places like the Middle East and Africa. Long after the war ended, there are still casualties being taken.
@telmomoreira7616
@telmomoreira7616 Жыл бұрын
Guns are made to fall in the wrong hands!
@dzonikg
@dzonikg Жыл бұрын
I watched SKy news report off UK training off Ukranian soldiers in UK ..and every single soldier carried Zastava AKs from my town ..how that end up there
@bobob8820
@bobob8820 Жыл бұрын
@@dzonikg ko i sovjetski kalaš pane režim dolazi korupcije ukradeš oružje i prodaš
@unpapelcascaron7463
@unpapelcascaron7463 Жыл бұрын
@@dzonikg why are you surprised, its the uk
@mariakaiser4403
@mariakaiser4403 Жыл бұрын
American Javelines are sold on the Black Market to Serbia !! .. only 25% of the weapons sent by NATO to Ukraine arrive at the Ukrainian frontline , 70% are sold to Serbia , Africa etc .. Serbs are among the most weaponized people in the world - nearly as much as Americans ..
@cacaberic
@cacaberic Жыл бұрын
The area of former Yugoslavia has so much diversity and is such a beautiful place with generous, welcoming people. It has been the political chessboard for great powers since forever, and that has left the area scarred, but, interestingly, whenever ex-Yu people meet somewhere other than the Balkans, they can instantly recognize each other and get talking more easily than with anyone else. It sounds like a highly disfunctional family - cannot live together without conflict and bloodshed, but remain more interested in each other's business than in anybody else's outside the family.
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 Жыл бұрын
Don't give me the, "Great Powers" argument. The People of Yugoslavia, killed the other People of Yugoslavia. The so-called Great Powers step in to stop that sort of thing.
@timbuckthe2nd642
@timbuckthe2nd642 Жыл бұрын
Very well said and good analogy
@Becarhodzic
@Becarhodzic Жыл бұрын
It has been a political chessboard for great powers since forever. That being said let’s not throw blame on these great powers and act like they are the ones that committed the crimes. I think that’s the biggest problem with the mentality with people in that region is the fact that all of our problems are somebody else’s fault and that we would have lived in love and and everybody got along well. When the fact is that we literally started killing, raping and ethnically cleansing overnight. I feel like if we started taking some ownership and stopped acting like victims we would be way better off than we currently are! This is just the humble opinion of a war baby born in Bosnian War….
@deniseg-hill1730
@deniseg-hill1730 Жыл бұрын
And you can be sure the US MIC were somewhere in the mix.
@HladniSjeverniVjetar
@HladniSjeverniVjetar Жыл бұрын
Yes and no...coming from Croatia we in most cases don't care or look across the border to the east....not so much about hate or even anything bad... simply nothing interesting there. At least that's how i see it...there are minor extreme opinions as well due to war but new generations do not care anymore since we see it very tiring. If i meet Serbs outside of Croatia i don't have problems communicating with them if they are normal but...
@trurayne7196
@trurayne7196 Жыл бұрын
My family immigrated to New York and San Francisco. Of course I was born in the US and I never really knew anything about my family's past. I have been watching videos and researching to learn since I started doing my family tree. I came in contact with one relative only to be told that nobody wants to talk about it. So here I am....thankyou for this insight. Much appreciated and well done.
@mhnzam
@mhnzam 6 ай бұрын
This video is extremely biased political take on Jugoslav wars. If you want to explore your family history, better use local ex Yugoslav sources from several sides, as they are biased ofc. But t least you can start making a puzzle. This is just useless…
@Magicagic89
@Magicagic89 4 ай бұрын
u wrong mate , this is mostly true @@mhnzam
@doubledragan
@doubledragan 2 ай бұрын
⁠@@Magicagic89’mostly true’ you say ? Hmmmm…. In this case there’s 3-4 sides to THIS story: 1)From Serb point of view 2)From Croat point of view 3)From Bosniak(Muslim) point of view 4)And let’s say from a totally unbiased perspective. And let’s include from an Ex-Yugo Communist point of view V Royalist ‘anti-communist’ perspective ie; from the pre WW2 Kingdom of Yugoslavia view point.
@lucianoosorio5942
@lucianoosorio5942 9 ай бұрын
“ When the war came, I did bad things, but after the war I thought nothing of doing bad things. I killed people, smuggled people, sold people” Niko Bellic
@carstenrenekjrulff6272
@carstenrenekjrulff6272 Жыл бұрын
When I served in the Royal Danish Army I was with the UN-Forces in Yugoslavia. Seen some really bad shit. It will takes generations for people to begin forgive what they did to each others. Suffer from PTSD today and still have nightmares of burned out villages and wake up smelling the smell of dead people. But I would do it again if I had a choice. We helped with supplies and if our presence saved even just 1 child. Then it was worth the price.
@xminusone1
@xminusone1 Жыл бұрын
I've many friends that served there as well and told me the same thing as you said. They're Canadians and were here with the Belgians. Some are still in the Royal 22 regiment. they were with the Belgians and Dutchs. It's not rare for them to tell me how the nightmares they still have to this day about that war and Rwanda.
@Aboleo80
@Aboleo80 Жыл бұрын
I was just a 12 year old kid when Bosnian war started and of all UN "peacekeepers" we pretty much only respected the Danes because they didn't take shit from anyone especially the Serbs who would test them bunch of times. I don't think Danes ever waited for approval to fire back like others.
@mkl21bis
@mkl21bis Жыл бұрын
@@Aboleo80 Danger is that when you fire back , then you might be looked like a part of conflict. Which is opposite what UN peacekeepers in modern days represent. Depends UN mandate in area or conflict.
@bobibobik5903
@bobibobik5903 Жыл бұрын
@Carsten René Kjærulff a lot of those who lived there are suffering from PTSD, i got cancer from depleted uranium used in NATO bombs. But today that is under control in my case. Anyhow, i don't know what to think about the UN mission, it did helped in some cases for sure. IMHO Yugoslav Army was ruined and since it has mixed nationalities, that have made the things more complicated after the fast independence of a some republics. Problem was the speed of braking up as well. The UK that was getting out form the EU did that process in 3+ years, and it was not nearly connected with the EU as an ex YU republics were among them. I know that nowadays Yugoslavia ain't popular, but i miss that country.
@oliverbuljan2639
@oliverbuljan2639 Жыл бұрын
Hvala💪🏽
@ignitionfrn2223
@ignitionfrn2223 2 жыл бұрын
1:00 - Chapter 1 - The creation of Yugoslavia 6:00 - Chapter 2 - Reunited one again 14:00 - Chapter 3 - Cracks in the walls 19:35 - Chapter 4 - Slovenia & croatia 27:05 - Chapter 5 - The bosnian wars 35:00 - Chapter 6 - The republic of kosovo 38:10 - Chapter 7 - Aftermath of civil war
@CryptidTactical
@CryptidTactical Жыл бұрын
You’re the real hero of Yugoslavia sir.
@ismar9547
@ismar9547 Жыл бұрын
32:56 Srebrenica Genocide
@SrbijaSrbima1312
@SrbijaSrbima1312 Жыл бұрын
@@ismar9547 noz zica
@YTuseraL2694
@YTuseraL2694 Жыл бұрын
@@ismar9547 *massacre
@ShejtanVrbaski
@ShejtanVrbaski Жыл бұрын
@@SrbijaSrbima1312 Da bog da ti krepala sva porodica
@Chorizero2369
@Chorizero2369 9 ай бұрын
Im originally from Mexico but I have neighbors who are from Bosnia and lived through the war, one of them was a soldier in the war and I remember one day I went over and talked to him and he told me that no video or book Can truely show how grim and evil the atrocities he had to either see or partake of as a Bosnian soldier in the war, he always told me he wished he nvr lived to see the stuff he saw during that time. Ever since then I’ve been so interested and fascinated about all this balkan and mainly Bosnian history. Ever since I’ve watched this video about the Bosnian war I know a lot more about this fascinating part of the world and the conflicts that happened. Thank you so much, it’s made me a lot more knowledgeable about things of Bosnia when I go over and chat with my neighbor abt what he experienced as a soldier
@geoffgero6081
@geoffgero6081 Жыл бұрын
I've been to Slovenia, Croatia, North Macedonia, and Kosovo and found nothing but wonderful people just trying to live decent lives. My heart breaks for the trauma and devastation the region experienced and I hope beyond anything that the past doesn't repeat itself again.
@zero_zero107
@zero_zero107 8 ай бұрын
Kosovo is serbia
@thethirdman225
@thethirdman225 8 ай бұрын
@@zero_zero107 It’s also 93% ethnic Albanian. The combination of those to facts is most of the problem.
@sdstorm
@sdstorm 8 ай бұрын
I'm glad you already visited Serbia, but I invite you to come up north as well. The party is in Belgrade. ;)
@geoffgero6081
@geoffgero6081 8 ай бұрын
​@@sdstormI'd love to visit Belgrade!
@lorenagonzalez71
@lorenagonzalez71 6 ай бұрын
@@sdstorm he did not mention serbia sir.
@andyyang3029
@andyyang3029 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job with this video. Covered everything at the right pace, and I think I speak for a lot of your audience when I say that we love longer videos like this(40+minutes)
@sbcee2220
@sbcee2220 2 жыл бұрын
I concur. The longer and more in-depth videos like this are smarter in every way.
@joeyr7294
@joeyr7294 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I enjoy the short ones sometimes....but for the most part I like the longer vids!
@sullisen
@sullisen 2 жыл бұрын
I mean this feels like the bare minimum to cover it satisfactory I feel.. Long wanted to understand this whole thing as the Kosovo wars is the first I remember happening and trying to understand it all years later without any real understanding of the history, who has done what to who(m?) etc is certainly not easy, thanks Simon and writer(not finished watching yet lol) for aiding in that!
@stevinharper3551
@stevinharper3551 2 жыл бұрын
Longer videos are better
@muzzer5327
@muzzer5327 2 жыл бұрын
I literally spend 9 hours a day listening to KZfaq and watching for another 3ish. Even with all his channels It still doesn't cover my 9 hour work day.
@cavalryscout9519
@cavalryscout9519 Жыл бұрын
I served in Bosnia with the. NATO security forces (SFOR) immediately after 9-11 (on literally the first commercial airliner to fly afterward). Even years after the war, there were still signs of it everywhere. The one that haunted me most was a depopulated village on one of our patrol routes. The buildings were mostly in good shape, but unoccupied, and the town looked untouched. Except for the elementary school. The wall of the school was lined with bullet holes, head height for a child, with a handful of other holes in a line head height for an adult. There was no record of what exactly happened there, and no investigation, because there was no one left to ask questions. The whole village, totally empty.
@Steadyaim101
@Steadyaim101 Жыл бұрын
Justice can't be pursued if there is no one left to seek retribution. I understand, for me, it was trying to pull body parts out of a cave near Modrac Lake and line them up and see who and how many had been shredded by grenades in there. Too many, but we never did get a good count. I still have nightmares of the smell, and of pulling the ruined heads of children out of the piles of bodies.
@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago
@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago Жыл бұрын
Amazing. How does one lose their humanity so much the can kill innocent children without hesitation?? Very sad. It's as if all this hate just came out of nowhere. Even with past tensions, what happened seems so extreme. I hope the region can find a lasting peace.
@Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis
@Between_Scylla_and_Kharybdis Жыл бұрын
@@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsagoPeople usually only hear about Srebrenica (and rightfully so, it was a tragedy that should never be forgotten), but unfortunately there were many “smaller” tragedies like the one mentioned here and all sides did them In those days, monsters were everywhere
@patrickoneill2726
@patrickoneill2726 Жыл бұрын
I did KFOR, some grim sights there too
@Niraol
@Niraol Жыл бұрын
@@WindowsXP_logon_sound_25yrsago the problem is numerous wars never far enough. It was always after 20-30 yrs so people remembered. The 90s one was 45yrs after ww2 and serbs held lot of grudges against croats for NDH (BIH was inside NDH then). But yeah, it was a shitshow all around for everyone.
@MisterPlanePilot
@MisterPlanePilot 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for covering this. I used to work with a bunch of Croats and Bosnians. I will say, they are the most appreciative people I've ever met of America. One Croat is the toughest woman, toughest person period, I have ever seen. She has incredible, yet sad stories of the river flowing red with blood, grenade blowing up parts of buildings they were in. She's still a great friend of mine, like a second mother.
@attiladezso8508
@attiladezso8508 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for the in-depth but still brief review! That's the most complete one on the topic found on KZfaq.
@StefanMedici
@StefanMedici 2 жыл бұрын
For what is an extremely complex topic, this was a very well researched and balanced overview. Well done Fact Boi and team.
@peter58peter
@peter58peter Жыл бұрын
nothing in this made up report is researched nor balanced. Just plain, idiotic, western lie.
@funkyribar2301
@funkyribar2301 Жыл бұрын
No it wasnt well researched it is shallow and shady
@thathalflatino
@thathalflatino Жыл бұрын
@@funkyribar2301 okay bro
@alexlarsen6413
@alexlarsen6413 Жыл бұрын
As far as I can say, the only thing he got wrong was North Macedonia and Montenegro having since joined the EU, when in fact they're not even close. Only Slovenia and Croatia made it in, the two richest and most stable countries even within Yugoslavia, who had that goal from the get go, along with their Independence.
@ThroneOfBhaal
@ThroneOfBhaal Жыл бұрын
@@funkyribar2301 Well, I'll watch yours when it comes out. :)
@OverTheTop85
@OverTheTop85 2 жыл бұрын
Love Warographics. Watched a 6-7 hour documentary on this whole timeline. There was alot of horrible happenings throughout by all sides. You managing to summarize this turbulent time with a 45min video is amazing to me. You hit ALL the main points and I came away understanding the big issues of these wars. Great job, channel, video. Keep up the great work.
@nataliekennedy4646
@nataliekennedy4646 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Adrian-zd4cs
@Adrian-zd4cs 2 жыл бұрын
Where'd you watch that documentary? Sounds right up my alley!
@LeapingBlackman
@LeapingBlackman 2 жыл бұрын
@@Adrian-zd4cs search death of Yugoslavia... Six parts about 50 minutes each
@OverTheTop85
@OverTheTop85 Жыл бұрын
@@Adrian-zd4cs KZfaq Balkan Wars it's a 7 part series maybe more parts I can't remember but it's VERY in depth
@peter58peter
@peter58peter Жыл бұрын
he did not hit one piece of truth, that I can tell?
@AHoffTheRizzler
@AHoffTheRizzler Жыл бұрын
Excellent video giving great clarity on an often forgotten topic.
@allie5
@allie5 Жыл бұрын
I joined the British army in 2006 and I had an instructor who was a Commando Engineer and was active in Bosnia and Kosovo. A few years later he went back with the UN to help excavate the mass graves. He had his own combat PTSD as so many do but I will never forget the look in his eyes when he started to talk about the things civilians and conscripted teenage boys went through. The human race is generally f’dup but this is a particularly sour episode. I did my ten years and I’m a paramedic now. Happy to pick up drunks and not deal with war wounds anymore.
@HatidzaOmercausevic
@HatidzaOmercausevic 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Bosnia, born in '93. Your video put things into perspective that I have not known before. Thank you, Simon!
@vornerbros9507
@vornerbros9507 Жыл бұрын
Because you dont learn that in school now in Federation.
@jingojingo1
@jingojingo1 Жыл бұрын
Bas si ljepa hajmo na kafu.😅
@user-hp9vg9wz6o
@user-hp9vg9wz6o Жыл бұрын
He does not tell about the background of the conflict.
@user-hp9vg9wz6o
@user-hp9vg9wz6o Жыл бұрын
Sad to read that the people doesnt realize that the us-/uk-nazis destroyed their country.
@jingojingo1
@jingojingo1 Жыл бұрын
No this is not good video. He failed to mention that serbian plan is a “project” of genocide. It’s their mentality the cetnik mentality. The project is still in force but now its done politically. They are not going to give up until they unite all serbs in one country. Cetnistvo is their ideology they don’t care about economy, good relations or prosperity. They only care about “Srbovanje” project of ethnic division and future genocide. Also some people say that current republic of srbska has been agreed to or planned in advanced the west wanted it. They don’t want one bosnia. Now we are divided. Tomorrow the rs can declare independence and what are we gonna do? Only solution in my opinion is if war erupts we need to hit hard and destroy rs.
@davidwrenn2719
@davidwrenn2719 Жыл бұрын
Served on Peacekeeping duty in BiH 2001-2002. Beautiful country scarred deeply, both physically and spiritually. Thanks for your work on this video.
@zadadazadada4298
@zadadazadada4298 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, short but loaded with info.!
@mitchellarnold8522
@mitchellarnold8522 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are some of the best documentary’s out there good work
@EmilyJelassi
@EmilyJelassi 2 жыл бұрын
The long, complicated and bloody history of this region is heartbreaking. Unfortunately, that bloody history isn't easily forgotten by the people. I hoped that the breakup of Yugoslavia would be the end, but I have a depressing feeling that we haven't seen the end of the region's bloodshed. Love the longer videos! Very thorough and fascinating video. Great job Simon and team! 😊 👏💯
@v.s7114
@v.s7114 2 жыл бұрын
That's mostly because the breakup of Yugoslavia was also a botched job. Dayton Agreement basically destroyed real independence for Bosnia & Herzegovina and turned it into a barely-governable, decentralized mess. 1.) They don't have a President ot a Prime Minister, they have a NATO-appointed High Representative with US-appointed deputies, which has been compared to be akin to viceroyalty (similiar to how a Ban of Croatia was a viceroy of it during Austro-Hungarian times). 2.) Because of the Dayton Agreement, Bosnia is actually three seperate political entities coexisting together; Federation of Bosnia & Herzegovina (the official country), Republika Srpska (autonomous Serbian minority government that is set in Banja Luka and unofficially controls almost half the country) and District of Brčko (self-governing region with an American supervisor). Basically, a deal that tried to please everyone but pleases noone, and originally, the Vance ptogram was also supposed to create another autonomous entity governed by Bosnian Croats, which would split the country into 4 self-governing districts. The principal problem is that the head of Republika Srpska, Dodik, is a staunch Serbian irredentist who advocates for Republika Srpska's total secession from Bosnia and admission into Serbia proper, and has been vocally active since the start of Russo-Ukranian War, re-igniting the feud of the 90s. So, yes, another civil war is technically possible.
@banano24
@banano24 Жыл бұрын
@@v.s7114 Not technicaly possible, baisacly unavoidable A civil war is on its way, probably sooner than anyone thinks And as a Serb from Banja Luka, im pretty sure i know how that shit is gonna look...
@kepler4739
@kepler4739 Жыл бұрын
The Balkans have never been a stable place - not in archaic, medieval or modern times - and the scars from the 20th century will continue to show well into the 21st
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 Жыл бұрын
Because no side is willing to forget. If you hold a grudge for generations, you get the Balkans. Forgiveness is tough for humans.
@madkoala2130
@madkoala2130 Жыл бұрын
@@Redmenace96 i can confirm it that Croats still have grudge against every neighboring state. Slovenia - because of border deputes and ownership of nuclear power plant Krško (they tryed to back deal and get it threw European court, but do to their relations with Russia, American taped their governments phone calls and they lost the case do to that leak). Hungary - exploitation during Habsburg monarchy (forced implementation of Hungarian language and ban of any Croatian national institution, paying taxes that were mostly spent in Budapest, ordeal with Rijeka, then Fiume and Khuen Hedervary) and today with mayor Croatian oil company INA. Serbia - basically everything that happen between us from 1914 till 1995. Bosnia - this one is the most complicated do to how entire thing in Bosnia has not started in 1991, this problems Bosnia are much more older then you think. Montenegro - we only hate them because of their union and active corporation with Serbia during Homeland war and nothing else. Italy - Since Venetian republic took over eastern Adriatic sea for 400 years and Italy's current and after WW1 claims for their ownership.
@stefansimonovic9747
@stefansimonovic9747 2 жыл бұрын
Very well presented!
@Doggy-B
@Doggy-B 3 ай бұрын
A huge thank you to Simon and company, as a kid growing up through all of this turmoil it was very hard to understand a lot of what was going on, this video is very succinct and covers a lot of the intricacies of such a terrible period. My understanding of this time is now much greater thank you.
@yonatan1myers
@yonatan1myers 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting it all so simply
@MrTexasDan
@MrTexasDan 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent job on a very convoluted subject.
@MrGaborseres
@MrGaborseres Жыл бұрын
Wow, this was a ton of information, it certainly helped me to understand some of history of Yugoslavia, Thanks 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@SjorLovre
@SjorLovre Жыл бұрын
Very good video. There are maybe 2 or 3 inaccuracies but all in all a very well researched potrayal of the war. And I really liked that you understood very well to potray the lead up from WW1, because a lot of people who have a go at the subject seem to forget the complexity of the historical lead up. I would say its the best potrayal of the wars in a youtube format.
@timothybackhus824
@timothybackhus824 Жыл бұрын
My dad was actually a UN peacekeeper in Bosnia and Herzegovina in the mid-late 90s. He told me stories of how horrible it was to see so much ancient culture and architecture covered with bullet holes, and how pissed he was when the Pink Floyd concert in Berlin he had tickets to go to on leave got cancelled. He went to Bucharest and had the best beef stroganoff of his life instead.
@kenosabi
@kenosabi Жыл бұрын
"Peacekeeper"
@hahahahah937
@hahahahah937 Жыл бұрын
Didnt tell you for uranium bombs????
@OneBentMonkey
@OneBentMonkey 2 жыл бұрын
An truly excellent video on a uniquely complicated topic. Definitely the clearest one I’ve seen on the topic. Same with the video on Transnistria. I love that this channel focuses more on history and politics rather than military maneuvers of the world’s conflicts. Very glad to see the addition of more maps which was sorely lacking in the Transnistria War video. But they do need to be labeled and if color coded, a color key is necessary.
@peter58peter
@peter58peter Жыл бұрын
What was complicated? Maybe, for west, to keep on inventing lies which. kind of, for stupid, would make sense. he forgot to mention that all o those 'jugoslavian criminals' were paid, ordered and pushed to do what they did, by west. So: what's 'excelent' in there?
@alexander-mauricemillamlae4567
@alexander-mauricemillamlae4567 2 жыл бұрын
According to my grandmother (RIP Luca, Christmas 2019), Tito was the glue that held the country together. As his health started to get worse in the early 70s many Yugoslavians, including my grandmother, aunts, mother and grandfather in 1973 (who was kicked out of Germany as "unwelcome" due to his high-profile organized crime dealings and sort of resulted in the rest of my family's migrants, despite being unaffiliated with the crimes and allowed to stay, blacklisted from becoming eligible for german citizenship despite having lived in the country for 49 years and my mother having been married for 18 of them) fled the country for Germany, Switzerland and Austria especially, as everyone knew the powderkeg would explode again without his leadership. For all his faults, he was an exceptionally charismatic statesman liked by almost everyone. Except Stalin.
@internetzenmaster8952
@internetzenmaster8952 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, _everybody_ except Stalin seemed to have the 'Eh on his policies, pretty good dude personally' view on Tito. His larger-than-life persona is... pretty fascinating to be honest.
@ungijazapranje
@ungijazapranje Жыл бұрын
And you should have seen his funeral. Saddam, queen, carter, yassr arafat all together crying 😂
@alexwest2573
@alexwest2573 Жыл бұрын
Tito threatened Stalin by saying he will send an Assassin to kill him in a letter after getting fed up with Stalin trying to assassinate him,he had some balls. “I am the leader of one country which has two alphabets, three languages, four religions, five nationalities, six republics, surrounded by seven neighbours, a country in which live eight ethnic minorities”-Tito
@rp4all584
@rp4all584 Жыл бұрын
Tito was f***ing criminal! No one loved him, we "had" to love him!
@alexander-mauricemillamlae4567
@alexander-mauricemillamlae4567 Жыл бұрын
@@rp4all584 how do i know youre not yugoslavian or did not live in his time
@zokieboi
@zokieboi Жыл бұрын
A great video. I still remember military actions during the 10-day war in my town. One guy even gave an AK-47 into my hands so I could hold it and play with it, others showed me their weapons. I was a 7-year old kid. I didn't know what was going on until the air raid sirens went off, we ran for shelter and my mum told me what tf is going on. These were my most carefree times. My neighbor got killed by 2 civillian JNA simpathisers (that didn't survive either).
@davidstegne3036
@davidstegne3036 Жыл бұрын
Im curious, what town are you from? My cousin lives in Domžale and i remember when i was on vacation there, you could still see bullet holes on buildings in Trzin at the intersection of the road heading to Brnik.
@sautter09
@sautter09 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for a very informative video!!!
@predragmandusic
@predragmandusic Жыл бұрын
Very well presented.
@NICOLAI_VET
@NICOLAI_VET Жыл бұрын
My first deployment was with the UNPROFOR from January to August 1994. Having been in Iraq and Afghanistan, the experiences in Bosnia are the ones that haunt me to this day.
@SentientDMT
@SentientDMT Жыл бұрын
So much ethnic cleansing and war crimes. Slobodan Milosevic was a monster.
@josephcro2138
@josephcro2138 Жыл бұрын
What have you witnessed? My father fought in this war and never wants to talk about it
@NICOLAI_VET
@NICOLAI_VET Жыл бұрын
@@josephcro2138 I have seen what people are capable of doing to each other. All because of old grudges, religion and greed.
@sabahudinseljakovic7148
@sabahudinseljakovic7148 Жыл бұрын
Never forgive never forget
@peter58peter
@peter58peter Жыл бұрын
What exactly fascist unprofor did over there; besides; spreading around sexually transmitted disease?
@yazinmusa9844
@yazinmusa9844 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video.
@user-pi9ru5rx3g
@user-pi9ru5rx3g 17 күн бұрын
Expertly explained - not an easy job to get your head around all the details. Thank you.
@tabithatrimm-hooson4585
@tabithatrimm-hooson4585 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, really appreciate getting to hear the full context for a war that shaped my young life.
@SavagelyAttack
@SavagelyAttack Жыл бұрын
There was a Eastern European guy making moves in Liberty City that was involved in this war but... He went quiet
@Bileks150
@Bileks150 10 ай бұрын
Yoo! Good one bro.
@merc340sr
@merc340sr 9 ай бұрын
Great video! Thanks.
@joberodrigues9635
@joberodrigues9635 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank u.
@RicoBanani
@RicoBanani Жыл бұрын
THIS!... is probably the most unbiased and well derived and paced story of my birth country, Jugoslavija. Well done!
@Luckiraq2005
@Luckiraq2005 2 жыл бұрын
After the Dayton Peace Accord, when 1st Armored Division crossed the Sava river it was somewhat peaceful for a few years. We disarmed alot of the militias and enforced the Zone of Seperation. Also it was the first time Americans and the Russians worked together in the same area doing peacekeeping operations. The Russians traveled to Ft Riley Kansas to train for the upcoming peacekeeping mission the late summer early fall in 1995. It was the first time Russian troops ever trained on American soil. I know I was there. I also deployed twice to Bosnia Dec of 95 IFOR till Dec of 1996, and 1997-1998 SFOR.
@zeitgeistx5239
@zeitgeistx5239 2 жыл бұрын
And Russian nationalists hated that period as they realized the West didn't care or consult them on bombing Serbia. What you write about is literal humiliation for Russian nationalists like Putin and the official Russian narrative. They'd rather be feared than to be ignored. They believe in their greatness and a zone of influence. America/NATO crapped on that idea and showed them how irrelevant they were.
@vvkth2500
@vvkth2500 2 жыл бұрын
Crazy right? Russia and USA CAN work together and make the world better. Your governments just choose to measure up till the end of humanity it seems.
@vjekoslavhorvat4733
@vjekoslavhorvat4733 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeistx5239 THE BEST IS THAT RUSSIA HIT AMERICA AND U.K. WITH NUCLEAR BOMB AND THAT THEY RETURN.AND ON GERMANY.THAT WILL BE GOOD FOR WORLD AND NORTH KOREA THAT THIS SHIT VANISH
@kostam.1113
@kostam.1113 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeistx5239 And American nationalists instead of facilitating cooperation they pushed their sphere of influence and antagonised Russians Instead of working together
@stefandusan9629
@stefandusan9629 2 жыл бұрын
@@zeitgeistx5239 It would be great if everyone functioned like pawns for the american hegemon but im afraid the russians have different ideas
@TI.T.O
@TI.T.O Жыл бұрын
Simon is awesome and everyone who works with him
@daehr9399
@daehr9399 Жыл бұрын
29:51 I had a friend, once, from Croatia. Zagreb. She was a child during the War/s, and was almost ...cleansed. She remembers, though, NATO intervention, largely where she was were many Americans. The intervention directly led to her and her family being spared genocide. She has always had a fondness for Americans and Europeans since, and as an adult is fluent in multiple languages and has become a successful fashion designer. We often do not think of the children caught in war. We often think of the soldiers - but the potential in each child is limitless. She is a living testament to that.
@ukanal777
@ukanal777 Жыл бұрын
everyone else ONE war - serbia FIVE in '90 - pure mathematic for pure EVIL
@nobbynobbs8182
@nobbynobbs8182 10 ай бұрын
Tell this story to western pro Russian mouthpieces/anti NATO propagandists like George Galloway
@Ogmios667
@Ogmios667 26 күн бұрын
This is untrue on so many levels, NATO in Croatia? Lol.
@ytsm
@ytsm Жыл бұрын
I've watched a huge catalogue of doccos on the conflict (I'm still struggling to comprehend the brutality of it) and I have to say this is probably the best I've watched. I tend to give Whistler's many, many channels a miss. But, credit where it's due - this is really well crafted: it's not easy making something so complex, so concise
@footballknowitall6185
@footballknowitall6185 Жыл бұрын
WWI in color is good. That’s the part I fault to wrap my head around is the brutality. Thinking the majority of those fighting were probably 18-24 year olds
@daddy_1453
@daddy_1453 Жыл бұрын
I love how Macedonia getting independence was so low key it didn't even get mentioned here
@ladev91
@ladev91 Жыл бұрын
We never get mentioned oh well
@diktrejsi8214
@diktrejsi8214 Жыл бұрын
They didn't mention Albanian attacks on Macedonia, because they must preserve Albanians like victims
@ErikPT
@ErikPT Жыл бұрын
@@diktrejsi8214to be fair… yeah.. we completely missed that part in the Yugoslavian war and that was what the Albanian dictator?
@four_20hitman___97
@four_20hitman___97 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for helping me understand this war. I was young preteens-early teens when this was going on and could never keep up with all the players involved. Couldn’t understand who was the bad guy and why. Didn’t understand why Americans were involved Or why other countries were mad about it. Now being older, it’s still one of the hardest wars to completely understand. But u did a great job helping me.
@AndreiB001
@AndreiB001 Жыл бұрын
Almost completely provoked by the US to destroy the last communist state in Europe
@libertas5005
@libertas5005 Жыл бұрын
It's really not that hard to understand. Serbs wanted to have the hegemony over all former Yugoslav republics, got pissed when they couldn't and then sent their army in each of the republics (except Montenegro and Macedonia) to kill off the non-Serb population. Which is why NATO bombed Serbs alone, no one else got NATO on their backs because no one else did genocide.
@acoaco-ue1bk
@acoaco-ue1bk Жыл бұрын
​@@libertas5005 😂
@MK-me4vf
@MK-me4vf Жыл бұрын
​@@libertas5005 Right... And the Croats didnt establish their Hercog Country withjn Bosnia. Naser oric didnt exist, KLA never killed or smuggled serbian CIVILIANS. What a disgrace to humanity explaining how u explained. Far more complex than what you wrote. Also interesting how the serbs stated revolting after the day that croats stripped the serbs of their minority rights, and their useof language....anyways its far more complex.
@user-ru2sy4lp8d
@user-ru2sy4lp8d Жыл бұрын
@@libertas5005 опять же вы смотрите на ситуацию однобоко, демонизирую одну сторону, боснийские сербы защищали свои дома, в окрестностях среднего подринья было убито более 2000 мирных серьов и сожжено более 158 сербских сел, преступления совершали все, началось из за сараевского убийства на свадьбе.
@trevorsthegreatest5642
@trevorsthegreatest5642 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@edvin884
@edvin884 2 жыл бұрын
I was a refugee at the benining of the war in Croatia. Later I joined the Croatian Army and served for 21 years. Those were some bad times. Thank you Simon.
@peter58peter
@peter58peter Жыл бұрын
u never joined anything which does not exist. u was one of that vaticans fascist who helped destroy country.
@jesterbeats2898
@jesterbeats2898 Жыл бұрын
U got give some experiences
@glencurtis6052
@glencurtis6052 2 жыл бұрын
Really interesting, I was only around 11 years old in the UK when this happened and remember a lot of the news coverage but wasn't aware of the history behind it all.
@peter58peter
@peter58peter Жыл бұрын
Being from ingland; u'r still unaware.
@LIKWID
@LIKWID Жыл бұрын
@@peter58peter more aware than before though, that was his point. I spend a lot of time in Serbia, and recently travelled across all the Balkan states, it taught me a lot about how they look at each other but for all the wars and sadness caused its one of the most beautiful parts of the world. Bosnia's mountains and valleys are breathtaking, Croatia's coastline is stunning, Serbia's countryside along with Tara, Kopaonik is beautiful and Montenegro has a mixture of it all. Im looking forward to seeing more of Slovenia next year. But what I can say to many others is how friendly and welcoming many many people I've met have been. Just because many of us who have watched these videos are from another part of the world doesn't mean we can't learn, for sure we'll never know of the horrors but we can learn. My cousin served as a peacekeeper in Bosnia and I heard many stories from my fiance and her mum about living in Belgrade during the bombings. I can't imagine what thats like but I can learn about it with an open mind.
@KiKiweaky
@KiKiweaky Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video thanks for posting. Very informative, I consider myself a bit of a history nerd but there is so much of it there it is impossible to know it all. Videos like this are such a good place to start learning about events I have very little knowledge of. You give the key players, names of organizations involved and most importantly some of the stand out dates and events of the conflict. Just went to the srebrenica massacre page on wikipedia, its going to make for grim reading I'm sure but I consider it very necessary to read about and learn from our past so we don't repeat such atrocities in the future.
@diktrejsi8214
@diktrejsi8214 Жыл бұрын
Also read Jasenovac
@cistamakedonija8210
@cistamakedonija8210 10 ай бұрын
As an ethnic Macedonian born in Yugoslavia I can say that it was working quite well for a while. My grandfather was a partisan and fought against the Nazis originally for an independent Macedonia but then Yugoslavia. I love all my former Yugoslavian brothers as we are basically all very similar by blood and culture.
@multiyapples
@multiyapples 2 жыл бұрын
Rest In Peace to those that passed away.
@TheEvilCommenter
@TheEvilCommenter 2 жыл бұрын
Good video 👍
@kristensharp6441
@kristensharp6441 Жыл бұрын
My family was stationed in Wurzburg in the 90s and my dad was deployed to Kosovo. I was only 6 at the time and just know dad had to go away for a while to go help people and would probably be back by Christmas. Now that I'm older I'm seeking out as much info as possible to understand what was really going on in the world when I was a kid. Simon's video's are very helpful.
@UtahCCWTraining
@UtahCCWTraining Жыл бұрын
Great video and coverage of the history of the Balkans. I was in Bosnia with SFOR in 1997. I will always hope the region remains stable and peaceful.
@LukaTheDon77
@LukaTheDon77 Жыл бұрын
My username is Slovenian but I’m a Croatian American and was unaware of a lot of this history. I just knew that Croats really didn’t like Serbs. Thank you for the detailed documentary.
@ChristopherSobieniak
@ChristopherSobieniak Жыл бұрын
Well, now you'll understand the shared cultural homogeny and it's breakup. But hopefully it doesn't leave a sad feeling in your heart.
@zivkovicable
@zivkovicable Жыл бұрын
To be fair Dončić is a Serbian name. Luka's dad is a Serb.
@LukaTheDon77
@LukaTheDon77 Жыл бұрын
@@zivkovicable fair point, mine is Karlovich hbu
@Dule-my1yc
@Dule-my1yc Жыл бұрын
Your username is nothing close to Slovenian, that's a Serbian lastname
@elvisvwvw
@elvisvwvw Жыл бұрын
DONT WORRY ABOUT SERBIAN COMMENTS, TO THEM EVERYBODY IS A SERB lol
@spookyskelly5276
@spookyskelly5276 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you have a team behind you but it's still impressive how you make such a large quantity of high quality videos.
@DeejayVillain
@DeejayVillain Жыл бұрын
I’ve just spent 5 days on holiday in Bosnia… these are the kindest and most welcoming people I’ve ever met… I like to think of it as the “Cambodia of Europe” Please make a video telling people about what Bosniaks have been through… specifically Sebrenica
@Aleks-ot5ns
@Aleks-ot5ns Жыл бұрын
I really liked how well the background was set up for this video, very well done. Going into the roots of this problem with the supression of national and sweeping the tentions under a rug of brotherhood and unity is something I hear to little of when it comes to discourse on this topic. I would however add that there were horrific war crimes done by both kosovo albanians and bosnian muslims alike which I feel was understated by this video.
@laonda5673
@laonda5673 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% but should also ad the crimes committed by croats was also understated in this video which is why I believe it's biased.
@arpadjszabo
@arpadjszabo Жыл бұрын
I was in my early teens when the county broke up. Now as a Serbian I go to vacation to the beautiful Croatian coast traveling through the beautiful mountains of Bosnia. Meeting awesome people on the way. Every time I think about the beauty and diversity that Yugoslavia used to have. Then I see the mine fields and the bullet holes on houses in Bosnia and Hercegovina and get reminded of how evil and destructive extreme nationalism is.
@arpadjszabo
@arpadjszabo Жыл бұрын
Also one small detail. Yugoslavia had at least 8 nationalities (not 5) Albanians, Bosnian Muslims (also referred to as Bosniaks), Macedonians, Croats, Hungarians, Montenegrins, Serbs, and Slovenes. Plus an other 20+ ethnic groups which complicated the war even further. For example the Hungarians never felt that this was a war that they have to participate in yet they they where in the JNA as conscripts.
@myowngenesis
@myowngenesis 4 ай бұрын
​@@arpadjszaboas an Albanian, I am scared that the more uncompromising ethnonationalist Serbs who may see this will start hating you for putting Albanian first, totally oblivious to the fact that alphabetically it fits, although you messed up a little because croats should've come before macedonians, but I won't bemoan it overmuch... Just a little. Also, nationalism can be useful. It's ethnonationalism that's the danger. Civic nationalism is okay, all of Yugoslavia were civic nationalist back then. I greet you, and wish you and yours the best life has to offer komshije
@gospodbogisushristos3302
@gospodbogisushristos3302 Ай бұрын
@@myowngenesisVratite nam Kosovo i ostalo sve normalno možemo!
@brentgranger7856
@brentgranger7856 2 жыл бұрын
If only I could be paid for every time someone says in a documentary, “Hitler was furious!”
@mattcromwell4308
@mattcromwell4308 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, let's be honest, he was furious like every day lmao
@dv6808
@dv6808 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattcromwell4308 yup thats history...you say hitler...furious comes to mind. you say brezhnev..drunk comes to mind.
@atomov
@atomov Жыл бұрын
Hitler was "let's completely destroy Serbian national library in Belgrade and erase their entire cultural identity" furious. General Alexander Löhr, who commanded 1941. Nazi bombing of Belgrade and was captured by Yugoslavian partisans at the end of the war, testified during his war crimes trial that Adolf Hitler personally ordered him to bomb National Library in the first run and then proceed to other military targets. When prosecutors asked him why he replied: "because that insitution kept cultural identity of the nation". They used fire bombs and burned the library to the ground destroying almost entire collection of around 354000 titles, 1365 medieval manuscripts, 226 early prints, 6260 magazines, 3770 letters and 1447 maps, drawings and photos. Centuries of Serbian cultural history turned to ashes, only few documents remained just because they were somewhere else at the moment.
@SentientDMT
@SentientDMT Жыл бұрын
Meth has a tendency to agitate and make one psychotic.
@alkaholic4848
@alkaholic4848 Жыл бұрын
It's just the way the language sounds. It's difficult to say anything in German without sounding furious.
@MrSabram07
@MrSabram07 Жыл бұрын
Great great video, I learned alot
@DushevnaSepsa
@DushevnaSepsa 2 жыл бұрын
As a Jugoslav born on the start of the '80s, people are still filled with hatred around here, they were the same 60 years ago but had to be quiet under dictatorship. It never really worked, the whole "brotherhood and friendship" communists advertised - did not work.
@draganmarkovic491
@draganmarkovic491 2 жыл бұрын
It couldn't work, it was insane to even try it, at least second time, after what happened during WW2 Yugoslavia was dead...
@gvozdenkuronja7414
@gvozdenkuronja7414 Жыл бұрын
I was born in '82 (close to your age), and I never remembered the old country, but growing up in capital city of the former Yug (basically capital of the Balkans :D) I bought that propaganda that during the old Yug there was brotherhood and unity (mostly, with exceptions), and only later in life (in the last 10 years or so), when I started working at public firm with colleagues who were refugees from former Yu republics (>75% of the firm), and from their stories I found out that brotherhood and unity was always the sham, the fiction (mostly, with exceptions), and that there was always mentality of us and them........ well it's never too late for that realization, I guess...
@ShengYu1995
@ShengYu1995 Жыл бұрын
@@gvozdenkuronja7414 its very easy to have brotherhood and unity among different ethnic groups. alot of asian countries have different ethnicities within the same country but yet there is no such thing as hatred among diff ethnic groups, for example china has 56 diff ethnic groups but yet everyone just identifies as chinese. Its politicans after Tito that pursued nationalist agenda specifically slobodan milosevic that ruined yugoslavia
@dzonikg
@dzonikg Жыл бұрын
It was good idea distroy by not so good people..i was Serb in 1990 from central Serbia...my school went in summer 1990 to coast line in Orebic..in same hotel was school from Zagreb..we had such great time with them..it was at that time world championship in football ,we watched and cheered together..in evening we would make parties togethet..back then i did not even thing that i am Serb and they are Croats..and all changed in just 1 year..
@gvozdenkuronja7414
@gvozdenkuronja7414 Жыл бұрын
@@ShengYu1995 it's not that simple...... history prior to break up of YU can't compare to those Asian countries, kingdom of YU entered ww2, communist YU came out of the ww2, and during the war maaany war crimes were committed (just look up for "work camp" Jasenovac, on the territory of newly formed independent state of Croatia (naci ally), where even naci officers were appalled by the condition and murder rate), and all that was put under the rug so that communist YU could start a new leaf, and all was fine and dandy when people could see/feel that their lives were getting better year after year, but then during '80 progress slowed down and finally stopped all together, and that made fertile ground (a lot of spilled blood in the past) for all sorts of nationalistic ideas. And then finally outside forces (EU, US) jump on opportunity to dismantle communist YU by not waiting a single moment to recognize independent republics (where in power in all the republics came nationalistic options)... So it's not s.milosevic that ruined YU, he doesn't even bear the greatest responsibility for break up (just convenient scapegoat for the west, reason you remembered only his name), rather brake up of YU was result of complex socio-economic and historic point of time with powerful bad actors from outside whose interests were to make many defragmented countries instead of one significant (and truly independent) country...
@michaelhalsall5684
@michaelhalsall5684 Жыл бұрын
The saddest part of this was that there was hatred between various Yugoslav refugee groups here in Australia. People who had escaped these horrors on the other side of the world had to endure hatreds in their new home. Hopefully time will heal!
@Steadyaim101
@Steadyaim101 Жыл бұрын
Same here in Canada. It opened up a whole new underground conflict between different Slavic mafia groups here that were funding the respective sides in the Balkans and starting street wars in Toronto and Montreal.
@adugames4385
@adugames4385 Жыл бұрын
At the world cup in Qatar last year the Canadian goal want racially abused with signs and taunts all referencing the wars, you also would see that type of fighting among the descendants in my high school.
@DefinitelyNotEmma
@DefinitelyNotEmma 10 ай бұрын
​@@Steadyaim101That's why smart countries don't take everyone in.
@youwayo
@youwayo 8 ай бұрын
@@DefinitelyNotEmmai guess the US isn’t one of those “smart” countries
@DefinitelyNotEmma
@DefinitelyNotEmma 8 ай бұрын
@@youwayo Certainly not, and it's quite evident.
@Mightyflynn77
@Mightyflynn77 2 ай бұрын
Great work simon
@jonnnyren6245
@jonnnyren6245 Жыл бұрын
Another new channel hosted by Simon? This man is slowly taking over KZfaq by the numbers. He will be officially crowned as Emperor of KZfaq, for a safe and sure viewing society!
@chrish9980
@chrish9980 2 жыл бұрын
I like to longer format video on a complex topic such as the Yougoslav war (which I know nothing about). Have you though about possibly making more long format videos or even a documentary length video on some topics like this one? Thanks!
@mrterp04
@mrterp04 2 жыл бұрын
Macedonia: “We managed to break away peacefully! Now for 20+ years of naming disputes”
@TheWedabest
@TheWedabest 2 жыл бұрын
They settled that a few years ago
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 2 жыл бұрын
Better than 20 years of war.
@steretsjaaj2368
@steretsjaaj2368 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't they had a small conflict few years ago?
@draganmarkovic491
@draganmarkovic491 2 жыл бұрын
@@frankieseward8667 They had their war it just wasn't against Serbia. They had ethnic violence between Macedonians and Albanians. It wasn't as bad as Bosnian or Croatian wars but it was worse then war in Slovenia.
@randomfaca
@randomfaca Жыл бұрын
@@TheWedabest unfortunately, the combined failure of North Macedonia's government to improve the country's economy and stability and Bulgaria's frankly baffling claims to the non-existence of the Macedonian identity along with their denial of their crimes done during their WW2 occupation of the region has put a stop to any improvement and entry to the EU.
@heatherharper7937
@heatherharper7937 9 ай бұрын
Just found out you had this channel. Will be checking out content.
@Somnationalist
@Somnationalist Ай бұрын
Simon Master of Geopolitical conflicts, Defence and Strategies, thank you for the reporting.
@crothrash1
@crothrash1 2 жыл бұрын
Good video, very well presented! Of course it lacks details because it's a very complicated subject, but for a short introduction in recent history of these parts of the world it is very well done.
@whoever6458
@whoever6458 Жыл бұрын
I remember ending up talking to someone from that area online in some of the early days of the internet and apologizing for us sending troops there and bombing up their country. Luckily for her, she was in a part that wasn't getting hit with that stuff. I think that was the first time I started to realize that there were regular ass people stuck on either side of a war, which is one good reason why war is ridiculous and people should settle their international differences in more mature ways.
@dersuddeutschesumpf5444
@dersuddeutschesumpf5444 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely in the end all that genocide accomplished nothing but hate
@peter58peter
@peter58peter Жыл бұрын
People r pushed. forced, to take up arms and go to fight. Truth.
@hidof9598
@hidof9598 Жыл бұрын
What websites did you use
@rodrigodog3872
@rodrigodog3872 Жыл бұрын
@@peter58peter most times pushed because propaganda. didnt you just heard Zelensky saying "all those deaths are on NATOs account"? thats pushing.. to ww3. nice guy uh? Im against the invasion, but for me he can take that country I dont care, bettter than ww3. the ukrainians who get used to new administration (but fake news will say that a holocaust wll happen... thats pushing again but most times the mass can only be pushed if them want) the elites work well to make ppl think they have no choice. MOST of the times it is a choice, some others there isnt a choice
@whoever6458
@whoever6458 Жыл бұрын
@@hidof9598 This was back in the days of the early internet. I think it might have been AOL.
@mrtroyster71
@mrtroyster71 3 күн бұрын
Great video
@clarag7564
@clarag7564 9 ай бұрын
thanks to this video i got an A on my history test about Yugoslavia 🙏💞 This video is pure gold!
@nenadstevanovic6797
@nenadstevanovic6797 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the best, if not the best video about this topic on YT. Well researched, objective, factually accurate and unbiased. I'm saying this as a Serb, who is born in Yugoslavia and wanted for this country to prosper. However, nationalist destroyed it and what we have now? Weak nationalistic tribes that barely function as a states. There will be hatefull comments from all sides, but don't pay attention, keep up good work!
@vilimivankovic6125
@vilimivankovic6125 2 жыл бұрын
Is it really worse in Serbia than in Yugoslavia? I'm quite enjoying Croatia and certainly prefer it to a genocidal communist dictatorship. If only we could split like Czechoslovakia...
@foobar6345
@foobar6345 2 жыл бұрын
@@vilimivankovic6125 I guess the idea expressed was more like what Yugoslavia might have been in an ideal world, as a center of regional power and stability. Though the question might then be whether you believe Yugoslavia ever had the possibility of becoming that.
@vilimivankovic6125
@vilimivankovic6125 2 жыл бұрын
@@communist754 every other cave or a mineshaft in Prigorje and Zagorje is a mass grave, so far 1750 mass graves have been discovered in Croatia according to Croatian historical society Croatia Rediviva, just because Soviet Union was the worst doesn't mean Yugoslavia wasn't awful
@DjordjeDjurkovic
@DjordjeDjurkovic Жыл бұрын
Yes, very well researched, he research so good that he forgot, I'm sure is merely coincidence, that Albanians also killed Serbian civilians, but if he said that entire story would collapse and that is bad for busines.
@DjordjeDjurkovic
@DjordjeDjurkovic Жыл бұрын
And in the and he said..."Yugoslav wars ended with insurgency in Macedonia" but again he forgot to say who did that "insurgency", in fact a terrorist act.
@Yorgar
@Yorgar 2 жыл бұрын
My mother was a therapist for survivors of the genocide in Bosnia. I work alongside children whose families survived, it is part of their consciousness.
@mikevarga6742
@mikevarga6742 Жыл бұрын
What genocide? There was no genocide..it's called war
@lukamacura7656
@lukamacura7656 Жыл бұрын
@Nika Ustašica 96 (UNVACCINATED 1776) Idi traži tatine kosti po vukovaru
@lukamacura7656
@lukamacura7656 Жыл бұрын
@Nika Ustašica 96 (UNVACCINATED 1776) ok
@resanana
@resanana Жыл бұрын
I am feeling sorry for your mother and that children. That was realy a tough etnic and religious war there. Smoluca 1992 was a great Genocide, and shal never be forgoten. Please thank your mother for spreading the word and helping those survaviors.
@mm-hq4qh
@mm-hq4qh Жыл бұрын
@@mikevarga6742 cope
@jessefokke9578
@jessefokke9578 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely LOVE your videos on multiple channels, Simon! One quick note: the ethnicities peopling the Balkans during the time of the Romans you spoke of were not Slavic. Rather, the Slavs migrated into the Balkans when the (western) Roman Empire fell. Before them, the Balkans were populated by Greeks, Illyrians, Paeonians, Thracians, Dacians and others.
@jessefokke9578
@jessefokke9578 Жыл бұрын
Oh, and the Kumanovo Treaty was not signed in 1991, but in 1999.
@planlosAUT
@planlosAUT Жыл бұрын
This is the best overview, for this very complex topic, I've seen yet. Great work indeed!
@baystatejive6134
@baystatejive6134 2 жыл бұрын
"meanwhile over in kosovo"....lol that sentence will simply never have a positive ending
@soul8938
@soul8938 Жыл бұрын
It does though its people are free from servian opression and have their own sovereign country in which they live in peace 🇽🇰☺️✌🏻
@diktrejsi8214
@diktrejsi8214 Жыл бұрын
Free them selves from Serbia and 2001 attack Macedonia, lol, Albanians internal victims, who doesn't know you......
@94Mateja
@94Mateja 2 жыл бұрын
I have been watching your videos for a while now, and, being Croatian, I was hoping you were gonna cover this topic one day. Finally it happened and you really did it justice. It was comprehensive and well researched. Also, very importantly, it was impartial. This usually lacks when this topic is presented in the countries of former Yugoslavia. Sometimes it helps to get an outside perspecitve, especially when it is done with so much care and research, so thank you for that. It is heartbreaking and terrifying to see these horrors happening again in Ukraine. Every time this happens we think we have learned a lesson and we won't let it happen again. And every time it does.
@mattcromwell4308
@mattcromwell4308 2 жыл бұрын
I traveled to Croatia for 2 months, I lived in Dubrovnik, Zagreb, and Velika Gorica (close to Zagreb). Your people were so kind and your country felt very safe, even at night. Good food too. You should be very proud of such an amazing nation :)
@matovicmmilan
@matovicmmilan 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattcromwell4308 Did you live in a village of Jasenovac by some chance? Or perhaps visited on the island of Pag? Both served as concentration camps intended for Serbs. Jasenovac memorial complex although maliciously reworked to cover up the real magnitude of Croatian WW2 atrocities still tells the tale of Croatian-held mass extermination camp which consisted of several death factories, two being on the other side of Sava river on Bosnian Serb territory.
@94Mateja
@94Mateja 2 жыл бұрын
@@matovicmmilan The Ustaše regime was without a doubt a horrible criminal organization and commited countless atrocities in WW2. No argument there.
@94Mateja
@94Mateja 2 жыл бұрын
@@mattcromwell4308 Thank you, that is very nice to hear! :)
@IvoRilovic
@IvoRilovic 2 жыл бұрын
@@matovicmmilan You forgot to mention that there is no forensic evidence that Jasenovac was a death camp during ww2, 650 bodies were found.
@boredutopia
@boredutopia Жыл бұрын
i was 9 when it started, for us kids it seemed like it came overnight, but looking back signs were all over for at least 3 to 4 years even before war. things started to stir after tito died.. i was 11 when granate hit the road while we were at the middle of it crossing it to get to shelter, today i am handicaped for life, suffering severe ptsd, but still dont need meds, i was lucky i only got handicapped and mentaly screwed up coz of stress and trauma, but i got friends from croatia and bosnia who i met in mid 20ties in a support group for yyoung and child survivors. some of my friends went thru real hell for couple of years, some were in filtriation camps, wich basicaly were c camps. some are so damaged that still 30 years later they cant be intimate with anyone, some had to be removed from family coz part of torture and humiliation was forcing family members to do sexual things to each others, some were raped systematicaly , beaten, forced to hold hand granades in hands.. wars are product of sick disturbed minds followed by even more disturbed people, silent and normal majority gets caught in between. wars are product of toxic masculinty, false patriotism and labeling of people... wars are part of our lives since first cave man exit his cave took a bat and said me your leader follow me... we are stupid spiecie and we dont deserve to be on this planet and we prove it over and over again. 21st century, 2022 and here we go again, ukraine today, yesterday syria, day before iraq, libya, afghanistan, yugoslavia, ww2, ww1, civil war here and here.. same sick evil circle for centuries. and will continue to dance it for next million years, coz we are stupid and one day we will destroy ourselves if we dont break a circle.. we need to get free of labels, we all are humans, all these labels we put ar ehere to divide us, from race, gender, religion, nationality, sexual orientation this and that, borders are imagninary lines on maps made by us, they change every 6 to 10 decades when ever some old far*** at the end of his life decides he wants to be part of history, saviour, refuse to realise he is old, his time has gone, will be dead in next 15 to 20 years max and screws lived for everyone else who still needs to be here for next 60+ years coz they had a fckn god complex, napoleon complex... coz it is easier to hate. to destroy instead to love and build and progress....
@tassosplatis2143
@tassosplatis2143 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about your experience. Children always pay the most for older peoples greed
@tassosplatis2143
@tassosplatis2143 Жыл бұрын
@@Ado555555 How does LSD, which screws up the mind, help people with PTSD?
@fornavnefternavn208
@fornavnefternavn208 Жыл бұрын
@@tassosplatis2143 Maybe widen your view, it was even in your own comment if, LSD effects the MIND and PTSD is a condition in the MIND :D
@10mmseb
@10mmseb Жыл бұрын
@@tassosplatis2143 lsd does not “screw up” the mind. It can be used to better yourself. mushrooms are being used for therapy in the us
@rashkavar
@rashkavar Жыл бұрын
The summary of the invasion of Yugoslavia is so heart breaking every time I hear it. The idea of a people (especially a people as diverse as Yugoslavia's) coming together to reverse an evil committed by its leadership (a pragmatic evil committed with the intent to avoid the country being crushed as it so thoroughly was just weeks later, granted) is such an inspiring concept, but had such immediately disastrous consequences.
@Aleksa208
@Aleksa208 Жыл бұрын
Even more heart breaking is knowing that Serbs, after reclaiming the balkans in WW1, could have easily made a Serbian state, just a bit smaller then the Yugoslavia. Therefore, all of the wars shown here would probably be avoided. Such a pity.
@rashkavar
@rashkavar Жыл бұрын
@@Aleksa208 Given how Treaty of Versailles border setting went overall, I'm not sure that a collection of Serbia, Croatia, Bosnia, etc would have been a possibility. Splitting the region up by national identities would have been a much better approach, but that basically rules out the Treaty of Versailles committee from making that decision by default. The Czechs and Slovaks petitioned for a Czechia and Slovakia to the committee and they got clumped together into Czechoslovakia because the Committee figured they were close enough and that Czechia and Slovakia separately wouldn't be large enough to be stable countries separately, whereas Czechoslovakia would be. Well...they're holding together pretty okay now, and I think pretty much the only thing threat that would make that a problem would be some country being pissed off about being saddled with crippling war reparations, losing chunks of the home country, having their overseas empire confiscated, and oh wait that country nommed Czechoslovakia and the countries that made them merge didn't even have the decency to do more than politely ask them to not do the same to anyone else. Meanwhile, look at the mess in the old Ottoman Empire. A huge chunk of the instability throughout that region comes from the fact that the Versailles treaty basically just drew boxes and said "and this parcel of land goes to Britain's horrible mismanagement committee and this parcel of land goes to France's horrible mismanagement committee and we don't know what any of their beliefs or political rivalries with their neighbours are or where they might draw the borders themselves (Shut up Lawrence, nobody asked the guy who's actually talked to people from the region)" Seriously, if you look at the Treaty of Versailles there are so very many things that were decided there that we've been reaping the fallout from for the past century. It's not the only source of conflict (indeed, a good chunk of it was just inflaming existing tensions)...but so much of the horror of last century of history either started from the Treaty of Versailles or was a smouldering fire that the Treaty poured a gas station worth of gasoline on. But in the alternate reality where the people writing that treaty were actually making reasonable decisions, it's entirely possible one of those decisions would have been the establishment of a variety of independent Balkan states like we see today. And if that happened, it's *possible* that local Nazi sympathizers and nationalist barbarians didn't fuck it all up throughout WWII. Or at the very least that the fallout from that would have been handled slowly over the course of 50 odd years rather than being kept bottled up by Tito until he died without having found a way to defuse the situation.
@jessejoyce1295
@jessejoyce1295 2 жыл бұрын
It should be remembered that immediately after the end of world war II, hundreds of thousands of ethnic Germans who had been living in the area of Yugoslavia for centuries were forcibly expelled and murdered, in an often overlooked genocide. This was not unique to Yugoslavia, but occurred throughout eastern Europe, and was agreed to by the victorious allies. Many of these ethnic Germans were ironically opposed to Nazism before the war. I think it at least deserves a mention.
@zmajooov
@zmajooov 2 жыл бұрын
Those very same ethnic Germans were the most loyal followers of Hitler and participated in many civilian executions. They had it coming.
@ChefPelle
@ChefPelle Жыл бұрын
The most massive ethnic cleansing in the history of mankind was the post-WWII expulsion of 12 million ethnic Germans. Many poles are both surprised and upset when you explain that cities like Gdansk and Wroclaw were built and populated by Germans until 1945. Wroclaw/Breslau was the fourth largest city in Germany. Many poles have no knowledge of this.
@gordomg
@gordomg Жыл бұрын
My mother's family was one of those millions of Germans ethnically cleansed by the Communists. During the war they were terrorized by Tito's partisans and several villagers were tortured to death by them. Finally, in February 1944, with the Communist forces approaching, they were given 24 hours to gather their belongings and leave a village that had been their familial home for generations. My great grandfather died from exposure during the long, cold evacuation along with untold numbers of others. Eventually I returned to Yugoslavia, as a member of NATO during ALLIED FORCE in 1999 as well as a tourist in 2005. I visited my mothers village and the small, neat, orderly home of my mothers childhood was taken over by Roma. It was decrepit and run down with piles of garbage and goats running through it.
@user-ik3xt1bx2n
@user-ik3xt1bx2n Жыл бұрын
Yup, Tito's goal was to create ethnically pure Croatia and Slovenia so he ordered complete purge of italians, germans and Hungarians from those regions but of course he left Serbia as diverse as possible even importing more and more people just to make it as unstable as possible
@relikvija
@relikvija Жыл бұрын
My grandma told me a similar story. Supposedly even Germans that were helping the Serbian population in Vojvodina during the ww2 while risking their own safety, were expelled after Germany lost the war. Grandma said that wasn't fair, she wasn't too impressed with the behavior of the locals after it all ended.
@joshieisparang2882
@joshieisparang2882 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I suggest you cover Timur's conquest in Persia, An Lushan rebellion, Yellow Turban rebellion, Boxer rebellion, Three Kingdoms, or Turko-Russian wars in the 18th Century.
@GS-by7ci
@GS-by7ci Жыл бұрын
Yellow Turban rebellion .. Chinese Christians have to hide to this very day because of that lunatic
@mightyv12
@mightyv12 11 ай бұрын
All in all, well done. For a very dificult and controversisl subject, quite neutral point of view.
@gooseloose682
@gooseloose682 Жыл бұрын
the bosnian war was a bloody and really dangerous one. My mother actually fled bosnia in 1992 and met my father here in germany. Beggining in 1999 we yearly visited bosnia because her family still lived there. (ofc, me being 2 years old at that time ment i didnt really see anything there) But as i grew older it was really hard to miss that almost everywhere in bosnia you saw bullet holes, destroyed buildings and metal scrap laying around. It was especially bad in sarajevo with buildings still having bullet holes well into 2010-2015 still visible. After i questioned what happened here i got a quick answer of "something bad, thats why i came to germany" but to what extent that was is horrifying to find out. Goodspeed to you all, it is a scary world out there.
@pfrstreetgang7511
@pfrstreetgang7511 2 жыл бұрын
As always you have supplied unknown facts. Lived in Denver most of my life and none of the local or state history courses mention Peter II living here.
@darkodjokic4432
@darkodjokic4432 2 жыл бұрын
King Peter did not live there, he died in Denver hospital after failed liver transplantation...
@joeottsoulbikes415
@joeottsoulbikes415 2 жыл бұрын
Simon, The bombing of the Chinese Embassy was not by mistake. The US had lost an Stealth Fighter over Bosnia shot down by the Serbs. The Serbs figured out that they could see the stealth fighter on the short band anti air missiles radar for a few seconds when it opened its bomb bay. The doors hanging down gave up the stealth and made it visible on radar as long as the bomb bay doors remained open. They purposely set out a tempting target the US fell for but had the spot surrounded by anti air missiles. They kept the anti air radars off as the fighter aproched so the F15's did not destroy them before the right moment. They made sure it was a night with full moon in an area with no back ground noise. This way they could scan the sky with telescopes and listening equipment for the jet. They identified it and just as it opened its bomb bay doors they turned on the multiple missle guiding radars and launched. As soon as missles had made contact and the stealth was going down the radars went off so F15's could not attack the ground crews. They dispatched cargo and heavy lift helicopters and crew to where the fireball came down. They scooped up all the parts they could find along the crash decent trail and the landing site that next 24 hours. The Serbs took photos with the crash and of the top secret parts for propaganda and then sold the wreckage to the Chinese before American forces could find it in Serb hands. Before Americans could send in a heavy lift helicopter with flanks protected by Apache & Cobra attack choppers, salvage crew watched over by an AC-130 flying death platform and F15 Eagles and F14 Tomcats eliminating SAM and Mig threats to retrieve the stealth or destroy it entirely the Surbs had already moved it. Not just moved it but handed that hot potato off before they got bombed over it. So the Surbs got war funds and more weapons while the Chinese felt they gained top secret stealth materials and cutting edge electronics info. The Chinese put it in the basement of the embassy until they could figure out how to get it out of the country or have scientist come to Yugoslavia to study it. They did not know multiple parts of the aircraft sent out a signal on a transmitting protocol the Chinese were unawaire of and the US invented to find it should it be lost. The US could not really ask for something back that was not officially in existence. So the US tried to arrange and verify no or a little staff as possible would be in the embassey. Then sent in a stealth bomber and dropped a single lazer guided bunker busting bomb to try and hit all the way to the basement to destroy the remaining parts of the downed craft and all its tech. Why do you think when you look at the before and after arial photos that only one specific part of the embassy was hit? Why did that side of the building correspond to the largest doors on the building? Lined up with the largest lower level room? They only dropped one bomb? It was powerful enough to destroy multiple floors and into the basement? This when most all other missions saturated a target with many bombs and ensured total destruction of building, bridge, rail, highway and such? Nothing else in the neighborhood was hit! Just one specific part of the embassy was cut out like a surgical strike without hitting any of the other very close buildings! There was no reasonable military Serb target for miles and miles around that even remotely resembled the building! It did not entirely work. That jet is how the Chinese leap frogged into building the Gongi-11 drone, Shenshen fighter then the Shenyang FC-31 and now the Chengdu J-20 as well as the shared info resulting in the Russian Sukoi-57 and T-50 Pak FA. This is not tin foil hat conspiracy theory. It has been released by a reporter using the US Freedom of Information Act. You should do a story on it!!!!!!
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 2 жыл бұрын
Do i have to read all this? You really are bananas you banana!!!
@mikevarga6742
@mikevarga6742 Жыл бұрын
False..we bombed the embassy bc supposedly the Chinese were allowing Arkan to communicate via the embassy..the stealth bomber was long gone .both of them
@bicualexandru246
@bicualexandru246 Жыл бұрын
If what you say is true, a link to the said US Freedom of Information Act document would have been far more credible and useful than this. It is an interesting and plausible theory, like many other theories about how the Serbs knocked out the invisible bomber with their shitty communist technology and to have some actual documented info on this would be welcome. I hope you will link it here so that other people can read it. I will probably check for it if I have time and if I find it I will post the link for others. Toodles.
@francibalanci5617
@francibalanci5617 Жыл бұрын
@@vitorpereira9515 ne ga srat...
@vitorpereira9515
@vitorpereira9515 Жыл бұрын
@@francibalanci5617 O quê?
@DesertFernweh
@DesertFernweh 5 ай бұрын
I use to work with a man from Albania. The one of the best people I have ever known, one day he talked to me about the shit he saw during the wars. The look in his eyes was the same i had seen in my Uncle when he talked about his time in Vietnam.
@joshuaparsons453
@joshuaparsons453 Жыл бұрын
My grandad was a Serb, and he would weep whilst he watched Yugoslavia tear itself apart on the TV
@CaesarSaladin7
@CaesarSaladin7 Жыл бұрын
This is one of those weird moments where I realize that some of my first memories of the world outside my home were hearing reports of NATO actions in Bosnia.
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