Colonel : "Call him Raiden" Rose : "Jack you want to save ?" Rose : "Jack ! You remember the day we met ?" Rose : "Jack, be careful..." Rose : "Jack, is that you ?" Rose : "Jack, what are you doing ?" Rose : "Oh Jack..."

Raiden ate gunpowder since childhood, and still he hates Rose's cooking.

The relationship between Rose and Jack was one of my favourite features of the game, and, in my opinion, one of the most interesting relationships in gaming history.

BITCH, I DON'T CARE WHAT DAY TOMORROW IS I HAVE 3 SECONDS TO DEFUSE THIS BOMB!

The fact people hate this aspect of MGS2 so much makes me love it so much more.

Rose: i accept the good and the bad, Jack. Raiden: what about the ugly you accept that too?

After playing this game for 7 hours straight till 4 in the morning, going through all of the colonel's bullshit codec conversation and barely having enough energy to keep my eyes open the last thing I want to see is Rose with pure white eyes as I'm trying to save before I fight Solidus. Really messed me up that night.

24:05 - What great foreshadowing to the reveal that Raiden was brought up as a child soldier, a machine, a soulless killer, only coming alive and showing emotion in the battlefied- where his life is on the line.

Everyone gangster til the background music stops

This shit is kinda heartbreaking, even creepy sometimes, especially after you beat the game and learn about the truth with both of them.

17:49 I've played a lot of video games in my life. I've played the Metal Gear series since i was probably 4. I thought i'd seen everything gaming had to offer, the pinnacle of a narrative in video game form, which was MGS, and i thought i'd seen everything MGS had to offer, i thought i'd seen every side of the story. I'd played them all, beat them on the hardest difficulties, watched my dad beat them all when i was younger. But when i was 14, replaying them for the first time when i was old or mature enough to fully understand the concepts the game laid out for you, by complete accident i stumbled across this codec message. In all the years of my life, i think that codec conversation was the first and only time i found my jaw completely dropped. I'd gasped or called out in excitement when playing other games with friends before, but those times it was just a social response, like saying "woahh did you see that?" But i was alone in my room in the basement, sitting on an old leather chair, looking at my TV set up in front of the mirror attached to the knicked up old dresser i had all my gaming stuff set up on. And by the end as the codec logged off i felt numb and tingly and i, for no particular reason, glanced off to the right where my mirror was, and my jaw was dropped. I really think this was the most impressive conversation i've ever heard. In any game, movie, book, fictional or no, after all the obviously very good character development leading up to it that you'd come to expect from a MGS game, this felt more real than any other conversation i've ever heard.

That conversation with Rose about Dinner makes me Laugh so much xD "I-I just love lobster. Yeah. Can't wait. Woo-hoo!" ahahah xD

"Want to improve communication in your relationship?" .... Send your man off to fight a war. What an excellent idea

Y'know, when I was 11, I always thought Rose was unbearably annoying and hated whenever it was time for me to save, but now a whole decade later I can acknowledge her as an admirable character. She's dependable, somewhat petty and naggy, but she's loving, as a girlfriend usually is. Their interactions felt too real and I can appreciate Kojima for how well they were handled as a couple.

"Are you two done? Raiden, you're needed on Strut C."

This game is somehow underrated (whilst being a metal gear game, and thus, a blockbuster). And I think a lot of that has to do with the Jack/Raiden and Rose story, and those 2 characters in general, and misreading Kojima's intentions with it. I believe he kinda felt he had already DONE the "badass, emotionally flat" lone hero story with the Shadow Moses plot, and so doing it again would be a redux. Instead he decided to make a comment on the players themselves and the idea of a generation of war voyeurs...Raiden is supposed to be conflicted, emotionally stunted but yearning for the completeness, whereas Snake is perhaps more emotionally developed and complete but cold and stoic. Both characters are super interesting in their own way, but the point is that there was ROOM for both in the MGS series. Sorry ramble

Defusing a bomb is like starting a relationship

"Jack there's no MEMORY CARD (PlayStation® 2) in the MEMORY CARD slot. You need a MEMORY CARD (PlayStation® 2) to save with. Could you insert the MEMORY CARD (PlayStation® 2) in the MEMORY CARD slot?"

Favorite Metal gear solid by far. This game broke boundaries when it was released. I remember seeing this at gamestop for 4.99 and it became the best 5 dollars I've ever spent.

Kojima or whoever wrote this part did a remarkable job. This emotional drama on codec calls is amazing. Rose and Raiden’s VA delivered as well

Colonel: Call him Raiden for the duration of this mission. Rose: Yes sir. Also Rose in each of her codec calls: JAcK iS tHat YoU?!

I won't say their relationship was the healthiest but consider the existential threats and powers of the Patriots, I'd give them the pass. Besides it's not like we can have a shouting match between them in game even though they wanted to. I just think they are realistic. It's sappy. It's angry. It's fucked up. It's at many times wrong. But that bounce back is candid to their relationship. Time is the biggest killer of this. In less than 24 hours we got an entire span of relationship history. That's not enough time to digest.

I honestly loved this aspect of mgs2 how raiden is everything snake isn't yet theyre drawn to the same conflict. There's a lot of story to raidens character in these too like who he was, is, and pretends to be. Tbh i was like anybody else just playing through these games i listened to codecs every now and again, but this game just makes you think about a lot of things when its over like you have this satisfaction but you want to know more. So then you go back and look at things like this and it just gives you that much more to it's characters. Who cares if rose was whiny or whatever she was literally raidens symbol of his emotions and that just made him all the more a great character.

I remember playing MGS twin snakes and beating it to all hell when I was around 11... Was hard but I still loved it. I even bought mgs2 and 3 a year and a half later. I remember how my dad told me that everyone hated the second game at the time it came out only because of the fact that you didn't play as snake after the Tanker piece. I honestly really liked it. Simply because it introduced a new character and I read up on why Kojima did what he did. It was sort of like a change of pace...like you maybe felt you were entirely helpless... but then you had solid snake sitting right there next to you helping you through the entire mission. I remember thinking it was the coolest shit ever. After beating MGS3 and learning that naked snake was big boss, I was super excited for the fourth game but before I could get a PS3 and BEAT it in time, MGS Ground Zeroes was announced so I got that played it little bit and enjoyed it. I got a PS3 and MGS4 last year too! I have to say that with all my years of playing video games metal gear solid is probably my favorite series among the great lineups. 2 and 4 being particular ones that I actually loved.

I love Jack and Rose! Thank you for uploading this. Favorite'd.

8:06 soooo cute 🥰

somewhere deep inside, im enjoying this....this game

It’s funny that if you try to speed run without saving you miss all this story, but Jack and Rose’s relationship and revelations revealed through this dialogue is one of the most compelling parts of the game. It humanizes Raiden throughout the game in a way Snake was not in MGS1. What you learn and when you learn it only ratchets up the tension and emotional conflict as the rest of the game’s story unfolds.

Rose: jack is that you? Jack:..... Rose: what can I do for you jack? Jack:..... Rose: is that you jack? Jack: who do FUCK ELSE WOULD IT BE?!

Today is the day.

33:06 Now that's fucking creepy

17:55 that conversation got to me

There is a codec convo between them that happens when you go a very long time without saving.

Is that raiden? He look so....nice. On revengence he look mean and terrifying.

Oh mannn, 23:06 Raiden predicts "Catfishing"

It’s a shame Rose isn’t ever seen in MGR, just mentioned. But Raiden mentions her and their son a lot in the (unfortunately easy-to-miss) codecs. It’s really sweet. Their relationship was a toxic dumpster fire in MGS2, but it seems like they found a way to make it work out for them after the end of MGS4, and that makes me happy. Rose’s cooking is still implied to be terrible though lol.

No wonder I'm still single

played this on 2021, i really loved these codec calls

Rose is Raiden's emotional anchor, and people didn't like that he had a life outside of war, and someone who cared about him. It's that simple.

I wish I had a girlfriend that would tell me to enjoy my murdering. You know, someone who actually cares about the way I feel.

THANKS! sometimes I skip them on accident. THANK YOU!!

I prefer these moments over Para-Medic's pointless conversations about movies neither me nor Snake will watch in MGS 3. There, I've said it.

that end o.o GW is really scarry

Two very human charachters, more so then Snake i'd say.

That conversation at 28:30 is just so... I can't understand how people could hate Raiden. He is by far(or was) a more complex character than Snake. A worst past, tons of traumas, more doubts, etc. I hate how they probably turned him into an edgy cyborg just please the fandom.

A really small moment that's easy to miss. When having the second conversation with rose when she reveals she's a patriot spy, you can see the exact moment she gets replaced with an AI version of her. Her eyes to from normal to blank in a split second. A nice yet creepy detail easily missed.

I love these calls and the game

It's left ambiguous what points in time it was truly Rose radioing Raiden or her AI Representation disguising itself as her.

Still a better love story than Twilight and The Notebook

Damn she was raging at the end.

Quinton Flynn is a great voice actor. He doesn't get the credit for his role as Raiden like he should

17:52 - 20:20 This one reminds me of conversations I've had about how I live. Specifically 19:31 - 19:53.

33:40 That's not GW as rose anymore. That's just GW.

I always thought Rose was cute

Rose sure divides opinions. Personally I like her. Makes me think of my soulmate. They both have in common that they like to be subtle about stuff, and what I have in common with Raiden is that I usually don't get it, heh.

great characters from a great game

Am I the only one who liked Raiden?

I'm sure many will say this isn't ideal writing or the deepest chemistry, but I can't help it, it's kinda sweet how they talk to each other. They at least sound like a cute couple, enough for me to have felt kinda bummed out when I heard they didn't stay together in the sequels

I can't help but swoon over their first date chat. Its simply charming and adorable. They really have chemistry. I wonder if Kojima based that chat of how him and his wife met? Watching King Kong multiple times in her apartment~💘

Man Rose Funny Af… Bro behind enemy lines fighting a war and she asking him Do you like me 💀💀

Imagine the next time you call to save after the AI takes over, she just says: “How eager you are to chop away, Jack the Ripper.”

This is the best video Ever!!! ;)

The colonel being silent all the way was very strange.

Her playing with his mind must've made that mission ten times harder smh

Where can I find a clip or time stamp of rose with dead eyes?

She described my room perfectly. :/ (Around 19:50)

*still a better love story than twilight*

I keep saving with Rose but it doesn't load and always leads me back to the beginning of Jack's infiltration, I use the codec frequency but it never saves

Bomb!!!

The torture room part is dissapointingly missable. I'm glad I thought to call her then.

Rose can't cook lmao XD

I've played this game for a very long time and i never knew half of these post-save conversations occured!

Great video, id love to have heard them all back then. Unfortunately I never sucked enough to save this many times whilst making so little progress. I mean seriously, who would be fighting Solidus and want to save the game twice?

Why the hate for Rose? She's caring

People need to remember also is that Raiden was talking to an A.I. throughout the game. It wasn't until the end when the real Rose was shown. So the behavior people had an issue with was no doubt a means of getting into Raiden's head like with A.I. Colonel.

2:04 When your girlfriend is bad at cooking that your prefer eating a lobster that cost 5 time your salary of the month.

i really like rose and jack (they’re two of my favorite mgs characters), but their whole relationship makes me kind of uncomfortable... it reminds me too much of a bad friendship i was in where they never told me anything and took things out on me constantly

How cute..

Rose: "Well, Jack. It sounds like you and Miss Emma are getting along just fine." Gotta admit that part of the conversation was the best and most hilarious. There was real chemistry there between them. And it gives Rose more of a personality.

15:13 That literally *IS* the truth...

Hmmm Jack and Rose...

Jack and Rose would had been a good couple but I’m afraid Raiden just wants to forget I know Jack finds it hard but he should try to open up to her and get married.

OH NOO I AM PLAYING METAL GEAR 2 ON PLAYSTATION 5 NOW I AM GOING TO HEAR ROSE TALK ABOUT WHY DON'T YOU LOVE ME

It was genuinly funny to hear her crying about how Raiden’s room was arranged

So solid snake is dead the. The head of the group was either Solidus or Ocelot liquid snake.

Wait a second, it is me or Rose seems different with human version and AI version? Rose AI seems looking directly to player while real Rose doesn't

Rose is nothing compare to my waifu Mei Ling

The kitchen was never cleaned

You know, this game had a lot Raiden on it😏

idgaf what anyone says they're adorable together

I always miss save codecs, all of my playthroughts go with only 3 to 5 saves

Jack you should have opened to her why

She's Pretty

not gonna lie but I'd love to have a girlfriend like Rose

Do you know what I hate?????? THEY NEVER BEEN KİSSİNG

She reminds me of my crazy ex!! What a nightmare! She must be a Capricorn!

Well goddamn rose but i have a room like that and no one says its like a fricking prison cell Q.Q

At what point it's not even her?

Lol I'll make dinner.

Okay question... why do they talk about bombs 3/4 times in their conversations XD,.