Miss the strike.

I cant even remember what happend in Curse of Osiris

Yes guy. It was terrible. The assets were reused, the content was short, boring, and not fun. I remember doing a story mission and when they had me do the strike it was just the story mission but shorter.

Warmind my beloved lol I miss mini expansions over seasons to I agree with your point. Yeah not sure where Episodes will take us with the little info we've gotten so far. It's nice to see you too :) I hope all is well and school goes good!

Weren’t players at the time complaining that the 2 strikes on mercury were just the story missions.

@@DragonKnight90001 because at that time it wasn’t normalized, that’s the entire point of this retrospect that what was hated on in curse is what’s normalized now yet curse still wasn’t nearly as bad hell we got more strikes in curse then lightfall or beyond light. And yes the formula of strikes definitely have changed back then in d1 it was more self contained stories with unique settings but d2 is more like longer and more developed story missions and also are usually presented like halfway throughout the campaign as like a filler. My entire point is just that curse even with it being a disappointment is that at least we got a new “raid”, the infinite forest, finally got to see mercury and Osiris and it had some unique things about it and some cool weapon designs when nowadays we can’t even get half of this in a season which hopefully changes in final shape with episodes.

I would agree with this statement. A lot of the blame it shouldered (not all) was definitely because of the systems put in place from Vanilla D2.

​​@@ballaxx3150 But tbf, the raid honestly sucked, mercury was a disappointing destination (it was literally just a doughnut, and remember 3 tokens and a blue?), while the introduction of Osiris was good, some of the other characters where pretty iffy (*ehem* Sagira *ehem*), and the campaign was kinda bad. The only thing that was good about CoO was the infinite forest and some other loot that was unique at the time.

@@DragonKnight90001 Shhh. We don't do reality here. Revisionism only.

Everyone would stop playing destiny if it came out, the whole lightfall reaction was primarily just because the story was so bad, Curse is a slightly better season and not even close to a dlc 😂

@@Blue-qt8ms I think you can't look at it like that it feels like the wrong way of thinking to compare it to Lightfall. CoO was less than half the price and was honestly mainly bad due to the awful systems put in place during D2 Vanilla. I think this could go toe to toe with a season of something like a 30th anniversary which was also more expensive btw. (This is all assuming CoO would come out with the systems put in place in todays D2)

@@cbgray fair point and also I can’t really remember was the only way to get CoO was to pay for the season pass which did include warmind too or could you buy them separately?. At the time i mean I know later down the line it became free.

@@Blue-qt8ms thats a interesting point it would probably be in the lines with a season in the current state of destiny. But at the same time it would probably cost more because it would have been a planet we could go to for the year before it disappeared.

Like the DCV ones?

@@cbgrayyup the raid from those like the leviathan raid

Yeah it was so hype then haha

Yeah introducing Osiris was definitely hype back then

If you loved it, you loved it. The reason it mostly got hate was because it was rather lacklustre, considering it was supposed to be an expansion. It was basically, campaign was a glorified string of adventure activities that weren't really engaging, the poi activity was a glorified public event with currency that was given to you in dripped amounts so you could buy meh weapons that inevitably got sunset, even though the HC was alright. The infinite forest, although it was different every time, was just procedurally generated boxes with a few red bar enemies here and there, which isn't very impressive. Just a lot of wasted potential really.

I think it was because of the damage vanilla destiny 2 caused tbh but I agree

I want 3 as bad as you do man but we’d be lucky getting more than one 💀 I am really hoping for at least two though 🙏

@@DarthLevicor I'm a long term Xbox player so I'm so used to getting 1 or 2 new strikes cause of how D1 was but it's final shape so there is gonna be guaranteed 1

I pray for 3-4 but I worry that may be copium haha

@@cbgray SAME!!

Problem with penoptes was that it wasn’t a boss but more a cinematic, there was almost no gameplay cause it was too easy

agreed lol

When witch queen came out, people dunked on it. When Lightfall came out, people started saying witch queen was the best campaign they've done. You can't take peoples opinion too seriously. Enough time passes and their brain tells them they miss the stuff they gave 0 f's about.

@@oxsila Well I remember when witch queen campaign came out people said it was amazing but everything besides the campaign are bad and now due to the campaign being good the gap is just shown more. Now the opposite seems to be happening with people saying that the lightfall campaign is bad and the rest of the game is good. I thought the lightfall campaign was super fun but then again I am not in a financial difficulty so I can't say something like "this was worth 50$" because 50$ to me could be like 500$ to you depending on your country (rip poland economy :

@@SmolShippie People I heard from were dunking on it saying it wasn't as good as Forsaken and that it reused Shadowkeep assets. Sweatcicle in particular was very negative about it saying it doesn't do anything new, but it obviously does with the hive guardians and hive ghost shells and more. Once Lightfall came out and he noticed people didn't actually hate Witch Queen then he started revising his take on it saying it's the best campaign we've had. Point being, people always dunk on stuff until it's part of the past. Then they start to give it the credit it deserves

@@oxsila Sweatcicle is negative on everything, no?

@@SmolShippie Oh 100% but he lives with CB is why I mention him

Yes it was much love brotha

Ggs! much love!

Yeah that’s true but I definitely never said I speak for everybody and don’t want to pretend like I do.

@@cbgray well said. I hope some of the spark returns for you in upcoming destiny releases☺️

I feel that it's been a long road lol

Lightfall is an annual expansion that costed $50 for the base edition. Curse of Osiris was $20 at release and was a mid-year expansion like Dark Below, House of Wolves, Warmind and 30th Anniversary. Curse of Osiris was also included with the deluxe edition of Destiny 2. Saying Curse of Osiris is worse than Lightfall is not a fair comparison as they are two entirely different expansion types. Although even if you were to compare them, I'd argue that Curse of Osiris is the better expansion: Firstly: campaign wise, Curse of Osiris had the better story considering the trainwreck that was Lightfall's story. Panoptes was an intimidating villain and getting to meet Osiris for the first time was interesting. Secondly: destination wise, while Mercury was smaller than Neomuna, it was much more packed with content and more interesting overall. This is primarily due to the adventures that Mercury contained (something sorely missing in current day D2) which gave the side areas of Mercury much more depth and made it feel more alive as there was more going on. Thirdly: weapon wise, the Curse of Osiris exotics and weapons were slightly better than Lightfall's. Using the forge on Mercury to get the Curse of Osiris weapons was new and innovative and many of them were quite good (I still have the pulse rifle which was the No Time to Explain before No Time to Explain came to D2). Fourthly: PVP maps and Strikes wise, Curse knocks it out of the park. Lightfall introduced one new strike while revamping 2 old ones (which made them way worse) while CoO added 2 new strikes that were both great. Crucible map wise, CoO added 3 new maps while Lightfall added one which came way after launch. The only edge Lightfall has on Curse of Osiris is strand which was it's main selling point from the beginning. But price wise, Curse of Osiris was way better value for your money and if it was released as a season today, everyone would be praising Bungie for it.

Honestly I played both I will say curse is 100x better than lightfall

I think where I am at is Lightfall is "better" solely because it being a product of the many life and health updates the game has received over the years. Curse of Osiris is only "worse" because of the very bad systems put in place by Vanilla D2 (Double primary, no random rolls, etc.) If both expansions existed in a vacuum and we take into account CoO was less than half the price of Lightfall I'd definitely be leaning CoO especially when this model meant we had another 20 dollar dlc coming in Warmind a few months later. Mini DLCs over "Major" ones if it means what we've gotten.

It's crazy to think we've had the healthy traveler for longer than the damaged traveler.

Definitely a throwback lol

You aren't wrong lol

Same just a product of bad systems in place

Yeah I think for me I just get sad at the state of the core now. But I agree things were no where near perfect then either. I do think a lot of it was more caused by D2 vanilla then CoO itself though.

LOOL

The goat

LETS GO!!!

Yeah Curse was a product of bad systems in place from Vanilla D2 I agree

People shit on lightfall way too hard. If both campaigns were trash what are we even comparing here. The addition of strand subclasses alone make lightfall blow curse of osiris out of the water.

Much love lol

I liked a lot about it. What was your favorite?

@@cbgray truthfully jack queen king fav hand cannon and def the infinite forest it did get old quick lmao but it was still pretty cool always liked Osiris and the public events were cool too but yeah just A lot of it just liked it

Wth you playing that's giving 5 thousand glimmer? I could stick a glaive up my ass and get more. (Also the token system was much worse)

fair haha

LOL

I'm sorry you had to deal with that :(

I miss Warmind lol

yeah that wasn't a very great idea on their part lol

Probably because it was so small and they didn't want it to feel any smaller

oof haha