Buckle in, this is going to be a long comment. Like I mentioned in the pinned comment of my last video, while I was editing the Suicide Squad review, I started hearing about all of these positive reviews of the movie and had a sinking feeling in my stomach. Shortly after, I talked to my friends about it, and they both liked the film. So, I knew when I uploaded it there would be backlash. But I never would've guessed it would reach such an absurd level. At the time of typing this, it has the lowest like/dislike ratio of all my videos, an absurd 17% likes. In terms of total dislikes, it's 2nd behind my first Assassin's Creed Valhalla video. I honestly don't get it. I didn't call everyone who likes the film an idiot or something similar. And for a movie that's essentially a cross-breed between Guardians of the Galaxy and Deadpool, but not as good as either. Was I a bit extreme? Yeah, definitely. I probably should've waited another day or two to record the audio so that I didn't feel so strongly about the movie. The thing is, I honestly don't care if you guys like the movie. I'm not going to think less of someone just because they like a film I don't, unless it's Cuties or something similar. I'm probably going to be a bit more careful with movie reviews going forward, not sure the audience for them is nearly as cynical as the gaming one. I'll try to talk about a movie I like next time. So, the few of you who also disliked the movie or just thought it was ok, are probably wondering if I'll do another comment response. Sorry to disappoint but no. I read a bunch of comments, and while quite a few were dumb or spewed from the mouth of a shameless consooomer, the general sentiment was that people thought the movie was fun, and I didn't. That's fine, there's not much to work with there and honestly I just want to move on from this. Tl;dr I don't care if you like the movie, I'm not going to tell you guys what to think. I will try to cover a movie I think is good next time.

It's no nostalgia, it's real and they don't make games like this anymore. What a shame...

"People don't mind politics in their video games, they mind propaganda in their video games." I've been saying this for years.

The politics is also why New Vegas is so loved. It gives you multiple political views without the game taking a side for you. You get to choose for yourself.

And then the franchise was buried for crappy Marvel games. Life is cruel.

Honestly, calling Deus Ex a stealth game is a disservice to it. It was revolutionary precisely because you could choose your approach however you saw it fit. Stealth just happened to be the most fun one. I also dislike the term immersion sim, but there isn't really a different genre term which fits DX. The game really tries to immerse you into it, rewarding inquisitiveness and paying attention to seemingly minor details. I also feel you really can't do the game justice when you play it after playing so many games which took huge cues from it. It's kind of my grandpa trying to explain to me why The Beatles were such a huge thing. Not your fault and nothing you can do about it, though. All you can do is trying to see the game in the context of its time -- back then, it was unique. The feeling of learning about the world by reading a newspaper _in game_ is something you can't really explain to someone who hasn't experienced it at the time because every game worth its salt does world building like this nowadays.

Thief, Half Life, Sacrifice, Deus Ex, System Shock 2, Blood, Shadow Warrior, Duke Nukem, Chrono Trigger, Tomb Raider, Quake 2, Unreal Tournament, Starcraft, and Myst. Ah, the good ol' days.

Deus ex is one of the greatest games ever made without a question. I mean I enjoyed it as a teenager bit thought it was good, but a little tedious. Replaying it now, as a 24 year old I actually have a new found appreciation for the game. It's one of the very few games I know that gets better the more I play it. I actually want to do a realistic no death run, something I very rarely do.

It is a masterpiece in spite of its flaws, that's precisely why it is one of the best games ever made.

Radar Transparency augmentation makes you invisible to machines: robots, camera, turrets, and yes, even laser beams. Thermoptic Camo item makes you invisible to everything. The part of roleplaying is to choose your skills and augmentations. They matter. They really matter in this game. As a side note, the laser beam part in MJ12 lab, can also be circumvented by yet another ventilation shaft. There is a locked crate you can pick or blow up, or even break with the DT sword if you are powerful enough, that allows you to by pass the part and gets you close to the terminal and the scientist lady in front of it.

You need to headshot enemies with crossbow to drop them on the spot

7:44 like how in Far Cry 1, enemies' heads are made out of butter just so long as they're facing the other way, but once they see you, their skeletons become made out of adamantium if you shoot anywhere but their head (which is also still bullet sponged-up itself a bit).

Short answer: Yes

You don't have to play it as a stealth game at all. Never liked games that enforced stealth component on you, so Deus Ex was surprisingly delightful.

12:57 There's actually a few ways to go through that area steathy(in fact,the whole level),you either can disable the laser beams by using some multitools on the panel to your right, you can throw an emp next to the beams and the bots which will disable the beams temporarily and the bots completely and then just deal with the woman next to the computer(which won't even see you if you don't cross her vision angle or make noise)and the MJ12 commando patrolling the area which is super easy to go past without it even seeing you. You can also use cloak as you mentioned, or radar transparency(which you don't have -does the same as cloak but to bots and security systems)to make through this area completely undetected. There are also a few other points you made that were somewhat inaccurate but this one stood out the most to me. Overall decent to look on the game, as much as I love it there are some flaws to it.

11:05 Maybe I'm overthinking it, but what if it's the game's intention for enemies to know where the control room/terminal for the turrets are, so that's why they run there to shut it off or see who hacked it?

"Death scream" is why all the enemies on a map know where you are, and it makes sense. All the guards are in communication with each other. If one suddenly screamed out, all the other guards would run to that position.

This game is frighteningly predictive.

I really love the skill system in this game. In fact, I often limit myself to the skills that I pick at the beginning and never raise them during the play. I call it "starting skill challenge". This really makes you think long and hard about what skills to pick, because that is the style you have stick with for the entire game.

this games story is scary accurate. it's Simpsons level 😳

I understand the honest critique. You do however seem to think of the game as a stealth game a bit too much. Stealth is a very viable option to progress through the game and you can indeed pass through the game maintaining stealth, even in that area you couldn't figure out . But I think the reason most hold Deus Ex in such high reguard is in large part due to the extremely varied mechanics the player can use to get through the game.

Loved this man, and I dont mind you being negative on the last review, its part of who you are and why I like your content. Review more retro games cuz they are always great reviews!

Considering this games criticisms of centralization, big bloated governments, and globalism, I'd say this game is based.

This game has so many flaws like the skill system being barebones and some trees being kinda useless (swimming skills, enviromental skills) the shooting mechanics and accuracy system is weird with the reverse bloom mechanic and most of the stealth simple. However the soundtrack, level design, characters and hilarious voice acting aswell as clever immersive simulator ideas makes this one of the best pc games and imo the best Deus Ex game

You ever play System Shock 2? It's also one of those excellent games in the same vein as Deus Ex and Theif. Not necessarily a stealth game though

For the room you couldn't sneak past, you can block the lasers with crates or the particles from the pepper spray or fire extinguisher, although I wouldn't blame you for not figuring it out since lasers earlier in the game sound the alarm if you do that

You missed vital piece of balance for skills - everything takes time and only your all-time available menus pause it . Lockpicking 75% strength door with untrained skill is a torture unless you exploit certain bug and patrol will be able to return twice if not 3 times to that door. Same goes to computers - some must be hacked in rather hot enviroment. As for enviromental training, it doesn't get you resists. It actually increases your effectiveness with all "powerups", be it night vision, thermoptic camouflage or ballistic vest. Still rather weak skill, but when you got your weapon roster figured out, it's better to spend on something that's situationally useful rather than all-time useless. Swimming is another weird thing - you get the aqualungs, yes, but these are rare, they don't work the way you'd think they work and speed can't be compensated with aqualung. There are loads of swimming pathways, too.

13:10 fun fact, there are at least 3 additional ways around it besides hacking the panel to the right, and thats either using speed enhancement (which allows you to clear it just barely, either that or taking another object in the room to gain enough height if you didnt max it out), or using pepper spray to block the view of laser grids, the only way to do so without setting off the alarm (with good timing its with 1 use, or 4 ammo, but otherwise just requires a small amount of it), and finally emp can be used to disable all laser grids temporarily (same thing with spy drone) which goes to show how well designed this game is, that while not eveery playthrough or style gives you the tools to get past situations like these, you still have at least 3 or 4 options around it that doesnt involve tripping security or otherwise putting yourself in a bad scenario

Ok so example on the options thing HR: vent or hack the door. DE: vent, find a key, break a window, BREAK THE DOOR, get a guard to open it The newer games shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath. No choice, just the illusion of choice. They are fine, but the original is INCREDIBLE. And man. The music. Just hearing it in the background is giving me chills.

Nice

the poor ai is and has always been (a good) part of the game in my opinion. It's not at all realistic, but it's fun to play around with.

Man, I remember playing this game and I was blown away by the plot. Yeah, it felt clunky but it tried to do not many did in the early 2000s. Human revolution was good, but I don't think it was better than the original. Mankind divided improved all human revolution had, but it failed story wise.

Your issue with stealth kills was caused by the enemy's death scream. Killing enemies always alerts people around them.

*Is Deus Ex good. Of course.

Environmental Training skill is about how well you can use certain items like Ballistic Armor (bullet proof vest) or HazMat Suit. These items supplement your ability to withstand hazards of many kinds: from radiation, toxins and gun shots and make you invisible to everything with Thermoptic Camos. Of course there are also augmentations that can do these things, but you cannot have all augments or all skills. This is what makes the game interesting, having to choose and making a strategy. To cover all necessary things that is required by your chosen playstyle. The better you are with ET skill, more effective you are. The more radiation damage is negletted, the longer those items last etc.

24:38 J.C. Denton is like Shadow from Sonic Adventure 2 and Adam Jensen is Shadow from Shadow The Hedgehog game. As a kid you think latter choices are cool but as you get older you get to appreciate laid back, real cool characters like J.C. Denton, he isn't trying to be cool, he IS cool protagonist, but Adam Jensen just kinda meh besides one meme line

One of my favourite KZfaqrs atm 👌

13:00 - With the blue lasers you can move the big box on the left and cut off the lasers. You can't do this with red lasers. Alternatively, you can also throw that EMP grenade to turn those bots against the NPCS.

I love the tranquilizer dart and I cannot lie. Fun Fact: Real tranquilizer darts take a lot of time to drop someone, that's why the military doesn't use them. I like that you have to carefully consider who to shoot with the thing and then hide behind cover until they pass out or dodge the bullets running laterally. If I remember correctly, upgrading the "pistol" skill makes the tranquilizer act faster, not sure about that. Anyway, awesome video.

Thing about that laser room at VersaLife in Hong Kong is that you can do it quietly by blowing the lasers up and sniping the guards, and I think there's an electric box for lasers but I might be wrong about that one

Great video. But I must say that you missed a lot of stuffs. There are few things I want to mention. I have played this game a few times including playing it completely stealthy, no kill, no ko, no cloaking. It's not only possible, it's very challenging and fun. I have found that the crossbow is actually very very useful tool (if you use it as tool rather than weapon). I'll also recommend you to explore a lot more. For instance, the area you mentioned with 2 robots and lasers, it does have vents bypassing the lasers. Vents are not always right next to the problems like the later games. Also, there are other ways of take care of the lasers. There is a reason why this game is called immersive sim and not stealth game. If you treat it as a normal stealth game you will miss stuffs. You have to be creative with your playstyle (This is also an area where human revolution suffers in my opinion even though I love the game. Every problem has a definitive stealth solution and it is almost always vents, it's too easy). If you explore the crappy AI you can see their are some interesting stuffs about them. In my opinion the bad AI helped the game. You can pull of tactics that no game allows. It would be stupid but very challenging and rewarding. This game is a masterpiece. Other games did stealth or combat better but not everything. Level design, story, exploration, how the augmentation and skill points are handled, location variety, mission variety its just beautiful. There are really no game came close to this, even the later games. you can even skip some levels and objectives or sequence break if you feel like it. The player can do what their wildest imagination and Deus Ex lets the player do that.

Deus Ex won Game of the Year, and for good reason. Despite being 24 years old and feeling a bit clunky by today's standards, it set the gold standard for RPG shooters. The game offers unparalleled freedom in mission completion, whether you prefer stealth, combat, or negotiation. The plot's depth and intricate conspiracy themes are incredibly engaging. As you progress, your philosophical views are constantly challenged, leading to a powerful conclusion where you decide the fate of the world. It's a truly remarkable experience.

Only the reboot games are stealth games to be honest. In DX1 and 2 you can actually play how ever you want but the jensen duology punishes you for doing anything other non lethal ghost

13:10 if you go back to the stairs their are grates on the floor that has a vent you can use to by pass the lasers.

from the video desc: "Masterpiece" has been used to describe many above-average, but flawed games. More people need to realize this about movies, games, music, etc. they like. That something can definitely be good without having to call them anything near perfect. Some things can be just alright or fair. Not everything has to be good or bad.

2:09 Uhm, did you ever play Splinter Cell? It used a really advanced lighting system for its time, with a meter showing you how much you are visible, and different surfaces that make different sounds that can alert the guards.

I'll definitely give the Deus Ex franchise a shot at some point since I am trying to get into stealth games. I recently played Dishonored for the first time and I really enjoyed that game.

I just finished deus ex for the first time YESTERDAY. It is definitely an extremely good game. Its dialogues, music, themes, philosophical and sociopolitical dilemmas are just brilliant.

You say the crossbow is useless? Did you go for headshots?

this is where you're wrong at 13:00. The game provides you with an EMP grenade if you've saved enough picks for the container upstairs that contains one for you. If you didnt save enough grenades or anything else for the later part of the game, you're playing it wrong.

You can block lasers with fire extinquisher to avoid situations like this 12:51

The thing about Deus Ex is that it just gets better each time you play it. My first playthrough practically identically matched up to how you described it in this game - but I've had dozens since then, and honestly, there's just so much content, so many alternate paths. Today, when I entered the lebedev airfield, I went into a dark corner and found a little sewer hatch. I went down into it, completed a platforming puzzle and a swimming puzzle, and found myself on the otherside of the airfield, having skipped almost the entirety of the overworld - it even let me get the drop on a flamethrower-wielding soldier, and easily let me find the ambrosia. So much to discover, so much to enjoy.

Excellent video! I played the demo a bunch back when I was a kid and couldn't afford games...this video convinced me I need to play the real deal.

The room with the robots at 13 minutes in, I found a scramble grenade somewhere nearby in the level, I forget where - either upstairs or by a vent. I start throwing the grenade next to them, run into the laser for the tiniest possible moment and duck behind the wall. They gun me almost down to zero health before I can take cover but one of them eventually destroys the other and also takes care of the guard if you lure him over.

the writing on this game alone is worthy of praise, they really researched thoroughly to create a convincing world that even takes a lot of real world inspiration to craft its fictional alternate reality

Yes, HE MENTIONED THE SOUNDTRACKS. THIS IS ONE OF THE BEST REVIEWS.

Environmental Training extends the time you can use stuff like hazmat suits and also increases the damage reduction they offer. As for the wonkier or more dated gameplay elements, those have been addressed in mods, such as GMDX.

Love your content! Hope you release a Psychonauts video.

Enviromental training is quite good at advanced level. It makes all kind of suits and equipment last longer and make them more effective. You can use one balistic west to clear about half a map if you have high ET level.

4:48 Finally some reviewer brought this up! It was driving me crazy how so few if any Deus Ex reviewers critiqued it's skill system, nobody mentioned lack of stealth skill, almost no one critiqued env. training skill for being redundant/almost useless due to the game providing item to help you resist said hostile environments(usually, sometimes it doesn't provide it, but most water or radiation hazards can be passed by without their respective skills trained) and NO ONE except you brought up how computer skills sucks bcus you only have to upgrade it ONCE to get near everything out of it. For all the flaws HR and MD has, atleast it's hacking system is more complex and you have to actually specialise in it to get more out of it while in original you only have to upgrade it once and you already can reprogram robots if computer allows it 8:38 I think the only time crossbow is even remotely useful is in big open areas where there are no alarm like hell's kitchen 3rd visit when you help Paul and last Hell's kitchen visit, then dockyard ship, graveyard level and Paris aaand... I think that's it. Most maps are either very close quarters or guards have plenty of alarms. I think if you max out pistol skill crossbow headshots are near instant stun but besides that, crossbow sucks so much early game even with some pistol skill. Also crossbow is useful for distracting enemies, where you can shoot it behind enemy and he will look at it but you can literally come walking to him and he won't hear you for a couple of seconds 13:30 Well, technically there is invisibility vs robots n tripwires but it's in same pod as regular invisibility. You can actually install both, but without mods you can't replace other augs with robot invisibility so id you don't have any more aug slots for robot invisibility, you screwed in vanilla

I wish they would remaster some of the old school stealth games because the garbage out now is not going to cut it.

The crossbow is an excellent weapon, it forces you to think before firing, wait for the enemy to move away from any alarms and attempt a head shot.. Head shots are instant with the right skill upgrade.. And then if you only land a body shot, you can duck behind cover and wait for the poison to take down the target. You always hear them cry out at the point where they know they're f***ed. then you can just let the poison take it's course and loot and hide the body, or chase them down with the baton and conk them over the head with it as they try to escape.. Yes, you can screw up easily with the crossbow, but that's the point, you have to use it precisely. It's an awesome weapon with a cool model and animation set. You can take down multiple opponents with it, just hit each of them once and hide behind cover....they'll all drop. Playing this game one time won't give you a fair representation of what made it so enjoyable. Particularly two decades after it's release. It was a masterpiece, warts and all. The drone handled fine. If it was much quicker and agile, it would have been OP. it can take down any bot and disrupt cameras, lasers and turrets....they had to nerf it. Deus Ex....still the best in the series.

I only played the original. Loved it. One of the few games where you’re rewarded for working your way around a fight as much if not more than winning the fight. It really gave you a chance to think your way through a level. A little nostalgia for me. Good memories of my teenage years playing this with big trouble in little China on the tv at the same time. Really feeding the ADD there lol. I’d still play it today on pc if I could find it.

Love the videos always fun to watch an actually honest reviewer

The room you mentioned around 13:30, wasn't there vent above the stairs, that allowed you to bypass the lasers? I would swear I can see it in your footage.

playing this one day one, was a formative moment in young gamers like me. This is what we wanted, (and as a huge Cyberpunk tabletop RPG player the cyberpunk world we wanted) but got so little of after this game. We waited years for something like this again. With Human Revolution, and then later Cyberpunk itself, they were let down's from the depth of story this one had. Not personal stories, but meaningful and thoughtful plots of great powers treating individuals like pawns. Cyberpunk eluded to that state in their world, but the realization of those tropes were much more personal and not as world spanning. There really hasn't been anything quite like it, from the perspective of someone that played it originally, and didn't think the graphics or gameplay or controls even were unusual at all, because it was what we had. Glad you new cyberpunk generation still enjoy it. Now go become great game designers and make us old timers a remaster, please!

19:20 the nsf didn't actually blowup the statue. That was unatco.

If you loved stealth then you should play the first three splinter cell games that does everything better than Deus Ex.

Without watching the video.... Not only was it good then, it's still good now. I'm currently on my first playthrough in over a decade and I'm still having as much fun as ever. It's been so long that I had forgotten how to do my perfect playthrough so I'm rediscovering just how much small choices really matter. For instance, before evading the enemy and heading toward the next mission you are advised to go see someone and stock up. If you do this you can warn them that the enemy is headed for them too. I forgot this and had enough items so I passed on it. As I am making my way through the next mission my contact notifies me that the enemy ended the guy I could have warned. It's such a great game.

The DT sword can destroy stuff only if you *both* have high enough skill *and* high enough level with the Combat Strength augmentation. Those two have to be almost at the max (one at max and the other at one less than max). So you really need to focus on melee build to achieve this.

I'd love to see your take on more 2d platformers I'm a big fan of both but lately I've been addicted to the 2d side.

PROTIP Look at the controls, there is a "Make noise" action that is unmapped by default. It works the same as in Splinter Cell Chaos Theory onwards

It’s crazy that you made this because GVMERS just did a video on this whole franchise!

Play Invisible War next! It's highly flawed, but still a good game and the story is pretty interesting.

Great video, and a very fair assessment on Deus Ex. It dropped the ball on things that make playing it more fun (bugs, mechanics, enemy AI, ...) but it's a game worth playing at least once.

Hey, just curious did you play Ubisoft’s Immortal Fenyx Rising and if so what are your thoughts on it? I personally really Enjoy it. It’s a fun world to explore with the colorful cast of the Greek Pantheon. I’ve also found it to be a very relaxing game to play when you just want to chill. It’s definitely a Hidden Gem of 2020 and one of my favorite games from last year. The others being Animal Crossing New Horizons, Sakura Wars, Ghost of Tsushima, and Yakuza Like A Dragon.

Theres the radar transparency aug which does what cloak could not meaning cameras, robots and turrets won't detect you. These permenant playstyle choices come at an expense of having the deal with the first or the latter of the two choices you've made but one is most likely more op than the other but not to the point of complete uselessness for the other aug/skills You're also missing out on a lot details on alternative routes

Played this for the first time like 3 years ago. Didnt really believe the hype but it was 1$ on GOG so why not. I didnt expect anything and got one of the best shooter I played. Good choice for a review 🍻

If you say “no,” I’m unsubscribing lol EDIT: I feel personally attacked by that Doom: Eternal quip and clip

Nice review. I feel you were open minded and quite fair. Well done! 🙂 p.s I really enjoyed Human Revolution despite the unnecessary boss fights. But, I still feel the original is more special. I recommended the game to a work mate only yesterday, but I think he was put off by the low resolution. I pointed him in the direction of Human Revolution. Quite a few fan remakes in Unreal 5 are in development. Hopefully they see the light of day and do the original game justice - as you said, Deus Ex deserves it. Not sure if you heard, but the franchise was recently sold. Hopefully it's in good hands.

I played many games before and after Deus Ex, and it’s still the best game ever in my opinion. It wasn’t just the gameplay but the subject matter and government conspiracies. I never played anything like it again other than maybe Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines.

wish there was an option to stay loyal with unatco instead of forcing u to side the NSF. Would make an interesting alternate ending. Sadly it was cut due to deadlines from what I heard.

Ok, so this is where that meme face you see on people profiles comes from.

13:05 Oh yes there is a way around it lmao you just need to find the vent entrance

13:06 someone probably said this already but i cannot continue living without saying you can use an emp grenade to quietly get past the bots

in 2000 i didnt even own a pc, but i played this game a lot so it had to be like 96 97, wthell is going on here

Hey, glad you liked the game. Deus Ex is my favorite game of all time. It introduced me to the RPG genre and immersive sims and I can't stress enough how much I love it. Fantastic level design, a story that is not afraid to explore real life concepts. I've replayed it many times and I'm still hungry for more

For such an old game , seems like it's pretty good. I played dues ex Human revolution and I wasn't disappointed it was a really cool game, great video man.

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2:10 I remember the original splinter cell had those features.

dude, it's been like 8 years since i last saw a game that wasn't tainted by sjw-insanity in one way or another. i honestly don't see good games being made anymore, because every game studio has been bought by corporations and they push all of this propaganda. and even if someone has balls to write a good plot with good characters, who's gonna make it, who's gonna finance it?

Deus Ex is one of the only games I've known (perhaps New Vegas and Disco Elysium also count) that has approached politics in a genuinely intellectual way. You're given an even-handed portrayal of the game's world and allowed to make your own mind up. The game never gives you some cringe political take that it's trying to force on you. I also really like the dystopian portrayal of NYC. It feels a lot more realistic and nuanced than your average dystopian future, much closer to our world.

Doing the things the algorithm likes.

This sounds like a high school presentation..

Its really sad and disappointing when modern gamers try retro games with their "i have to just beat it" approach. In those days "read everything everywhere and figure it out" approach was the norm. Deus Ex is a masterpiece and none of the sequels came close to it.I will go out on a limb and say that no sequels after "invisble war" are deus ex games. hell, it has flaws but now just add vents, augs, objective markers and you got a deus ex sequel. What happened to the 360 degree approach of the liberty island mission of the original? PS: Yes im old and love playing games.

13:00 use emp grenade noob or scramble grenade, or pepper spray the laser and you can block the laser

The area where the original DX is better than any of the sequels or any immersive sims for that matter is that it doesn't force any playstyle on you. It doesn't reward any particular way of playing more than the other, so you're pretty much free to improvise at any moment. The only thing that matters is getting the job done. How? It doesn't matter. It's up to you. Mix and match, challenge yourself or go the easiest and most convenient way. The game is about you.

Dx Invisible war has better immersive sim elements then either of modern Dx games not even memeing

20:51 - 21:16 -> that Donald Duck meme where he wakes up and look up looking annoyed

Don't forget Splinter Cell. It was also a very important game for the stealth genre.