Was Man City's Treble BETTER Than Man Utd's? 🏆

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11 ай бұрын

Was Man City's Treble BETTER Than Man Utd's? 🏆 #shorts
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@saheeldaby11
@saheeldaby11 11 ай бұрын
City was a bulldozer in their campaign. They didnt just win but humiliate their opponent.
@bigwin629
@bigwin629 11 ай бұрын
They didn't humiliate man united or inter ????
@fivehundrediq5212
@fivehundrediq5212 11 ай бұрын
@@bigwin629Inter & United not allowed to compete?
@sufisufi1753
@sufisufi1753 11 ай бұрын
​@@jeffsroyalbodyguard7642no
@bigwin629
@bigwin629 11 ай бұрын
@Jeff's Royal Body Guard 2-1 scoreline is not humiliation clown also nearly losing against inter and playing awful is not humiliation also beating a team to a title that are bottle jobs is not humiliation clearly shows you don't even watch football or any of these games
@mphasis1983
@mphasis1983 11 ай бұрын
in a shit era ffs. our era was much harder to do it. shitty had no real competition lol.
@nayanala3904
@nayanala3904 9 ай бұрын
The way City dismantled Real Madrid in the semi did it for me. City last season were ruthless on all fronts
@lsthereanysense
@lsthereanysense 11 ай бұрын
As a United fan, I agree that if they played City would win. The United lads are all in their 50s now
@adenihunadewale9214
@adenihunadewale9214 11 ай бұрын
Win by pk
@bigwin629
@bigwin629 11 ай бұрын
That's a good one
@davidmarchant9386
@davidmarchant9386 11 ай бұрын
Very funny see how you used a Bobby Charlton reference
@kwamedarko31
@kwamedarko31 11 ай бұрын
Lol
@owensmith3954
@owensmith3954 11 ай бұрын
on about their ages when they won the treble
@coryjunior8747
@coryjunior8747 11 ай бұрын
Both are better than invincibles Robbie needs to get that in his head
@issacmoore61
@issacmoore61 11 ай бұрын
@@benjaminbenjamin9645what you on about arsenal have never won champions league
@rossdavidson9776
@rossdavidson9776 11 ай бұрын
The invincibles werent even mentioned 🤔
@jonnyhill1155
@jonnyhill1155 11 ай бұрын
​@SexyTeeth101 you are wrong
@blazing_zari4442
@blazing_zari4442 11 ай бұрын
Facts
@Chirag_Arikella
@Chirag_Arikella 11 ай бұрын
One has been repeated, the former will never be repeated again.
@aphiwemsomi.
@aphiwemsomi. 11 ай бұрын
They were won in different eras. It's not fair to compare, they've both achieved the same thing let's just applaud the two. All the other teams should look forward to emulating this feat in the future or do even better than win a treble.
@vibremaster239
@vibremaster239 11 ай бұрын
Well respected aphi
@tuffeegaming8715
@tuffeegaming8715 11 ай бұрын
We live in a weird culture in football where everyone/thing has to be compared. I.e Messi and Ronaldo, people for some reason can’t just enjoy both trebles.
@mymemories925
@mymemories925 11 ай бұрын
If any of those 115 plus charges stick then all of city,s achievements will be tainted with asterisks beside them and the small uk fanbase will have to deal with the rival fans constantly reminding them, away matches will be torture banners everywhere for the world to see
@user-to1sr8bm2u
@user-to1sr8bm2u 11 ай бұрын
@@tuffeegaming8715 Spot on!
@Demon11238
@Demon11238 11 ай бұрын
City did it better tho
@LeeTAZ-sl7de
@LeeTAZ-sl7de 11 ай бұрын
How is fighting till the very end of a final fortunate? When we beat Arsenal in the semi we were down to 10 men, Schmeichel saved a penalty and Giggs ran through Arsenals midfield to score the winner, united more than earned there treble just like City have. Both are great teams of there time.
@jayasmiah6617
@jayasmiah6617 11 ай бұрын
Giggs scored that special goal took his shirt off
@johnworf
@johnworf 10 ай бұрын
their
@LeeTAZ-sl7de
@LeeTAZ-sl7de 10 ай бұрын
@@johnworf sorry grammar police I made an error.
@johnworf
@johnworf 10 ай бұрын
@@LeeTAZ-sl7de next time it will be hard labour!
@lukemomodujr
@lukemomodujr 6 ай бұрын
And Anelka(I think it was him) had a goal disallowed for offside after Giggs goal. Not to mention that the league was decided on the final day.
@ericlim7902
@ericlim7902 11 ай бұрын
People seem to forget who United had to beat to get to the FA cup and champions league final. 😂 Spoiler alert: Same group as Barcelona and Bayern followed by quarterfinal against Inter(Ronaldo, Baggio and Pirlo), semifinal against Juve(Del piero , Zizou, Didier Deschamps, Antonio conte, Inzaghi) and final comeback win against Bayern. The FA cup United had to beat Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal. Their treble that year was more impressive than most think.
@masterchief1520
@masterchief1520 11 ай бұрын
Nobodys underrating them 😂. People just want to give city the credit they deserve. City also beat chelsea, arsenal(take it however you want) united for FA. Bayern madrid and inter(who actually were supposed to be a tough fight but idk city also kinda played very bad) . Different era comparison makes no sense. Plz Nobody say the opponents all played bad or luck was on city 😂 id just laugh more
@sw4gxgamer506
@sw4gxgamer506 10 ай бұрын
@@masterchief1520nah because they are trying to underrate them. Trying to make claims that city doing it this season is better than the 99 treble but it can never be better because united are the first team to do it never remember the second people to do things always be the first you remember. Can only equal it because it’s the same exact accomplishment
@abiman10
@abiman10 10 ай бұрын
thank you
@saumya_42
@saumya_42 10 ай бұрын
Someone with ball knowledge
@masterchief1520
@masterchief1520 10 ай бұрын
@@sw4gxgamer506 I never compare but nobody seems to mention that players are better/different, techniques have evolved era is different . Simply put United beat the best at their time and City beat the best at their time. What's funny is that people were like city has no history . They start dominating PL(city has no UCL) . They finished three peat ending with a treble now it's United did better. 😂. I'm honestly thrilled with the amount of haters. That's what makes it more fun to support. I just wanna watch beautiful gameplay. PS: Idk why this delusional Baldy is talking about this when they got no UCL or treble 😂 and worst thing bottled an ez league title lmao
@lazyl950
@lazyl950 9 ай бұрын
That United team who faced Bayern in the UCL final was without Roy Keane & Paul Scholes. Never forget that!!!
@Footie4ever
@Footie4ever 11 ай бұрын
The fact is that United treble team wasn’t always the favourites to win them. They won the league in the last day and the CL in the last 5 minutes. City however, were very clear favorites against any team they’ve come up against. They were the favourites to beat madrid, Bayern. Even when Arsenal were 10 points clear, City were still the favorites to win it, and they won with 2 games in hand.
@skemolehgen7543
@skemolehgen7543 10 ай бұрын
Just show you how good city team was,even while losing they are the favourite.
@andrewla9053
@andrewla9053 11 ай бұрын
You guys should listen to their whole conversation...Not just bits here.. They both agree that Man Utds treble was more special and iconic with so many home grown players and the way they won those titles
@madmaxgaming8225
@madmaxgaming8225 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂 shite united did it by paying refs
@fivehundrediq5212
@fivehundrediq5212 11 ай бұрын
Home grown players? What’s that supposed to mean?
@mphasis1983
@mphasis1983 11 ай бұрын
@@fivehundrediq5212 class of 92
@kyle6095
@kyle6095 11 ай бұрын
​@@fivehundrediq5212Home grown tends to refer to players who rose out the academy. I think the official definition is something like registered with a club 3+ years before 21st birthday.
@Smilejustsmilebby
@Smilejustsmilebby 11 ай бұрын
​@@fivehundrediq5212 how about british. Thats what it means to me. Why you acting like thats controversial. Keane giggs scholes beckham neville etc. The 3+ years before 21 is not a good metric imo
@skinnymon123
@skinnymon123 11 ай бұрын
The PL was actually a farmers league back in that era. Wasnt even a top 2 league
@thechef8677
@thechef8677 11 ай бұрын
Meaning that champion leauge win was even better beating all those elite European teams by a farmers club. 😮
@skinnymon123
@skinnymon123 11 ай бұрын
@@thechef8677 not really, had an easy run in cl
@miladh3833
@miladh3833 11 ай бұрын
@@skinnymon123They beat juve with zidane that were going back to back finales beaten bayern in the finale beaten inter who finished above rma in the group and were in the group with bayern and barcalona the group of death, arguably the greatest run in cl history weird thing to say
@chapi0460
@chapi0460 Ай бұрын
​@skinnymon123 i know im late but united where in that years group of death with bayern and barcelona and some other team i can't think of right now. Then they had Inter in the quarter finals, Juventus with Zidane in the semifinals and the bayern again in the final. How is that easy all games where close and won by one goal
@jay9212
@jay9212 11 ай бұрын
Robbie is just anti united at this point 😂
@martinjohnson3914
@martinjohnson3914 11 ай бұрын
He has always been anti united
@aaronmatthews1236
@aaronmatthews1236 9 ай бұрын
Yep 100% He should be backing United in this not the manufactured City who have only been relevant since 2012.
@vector_vector__
@vector_vector__ 9 ай бұрын
As arsenal fan i wanted man utd to lose that FA cup match 😂 just to shut them up , they been annoying as af talking about trebble that was 21 years ago while they trash nowdays they be talking sh*t about us when they literally finished below last season 😂
@reverseengineeredbot3387
@reverseengineeredbot3387 8 ай бұрын
​​@@vector_vector__hows that not so invincible team?
@MCFCReacts
@MCFCReacts 4 ай бұрын
@@aaronmatthews1236Arsenal hate United more than City
@steve13191
@steve13191 11 ай бұрын
If united had man city depth they would probably win treble plus invincible that season. Or multi treble. There is a difference between having mahrez, laporte, kalvin phillips 180 million depth and nicky butt, blomqvist and teddy sheringham. Let alone having 5 subs you can rotate in out and out. United couldnt rotate their midfield cause literally they had 3 players for central midfield to play all the games 🤣
@cryptozilla_
@cryptozilla_ 11 ай бұрын
“Man City depth” City had 22 players. Out of that, 3 of them are goalkeepers. Remaining 19. Then you have Rico Lewis, and Cole Palmer. Remaining 17. Then you have the injury issues of Kalvin Phillips and the limited game time of Sergio Gomez. So all in all, 15 outfield players remain. 10 start, with 5 on the bench. The city Depth is a myth. If anything, the team is good at creating multiple positions for each player. We’ve recently seen Stones in MD and Silva at LB. Give credit where it’s due and stop making excuses
@vcsl14
@vcsl14 11 ай бұрын
Yeah this is a common misconception. City aren’t even as stacked as people think they are. They are just coached brilliantly and are tactically superior to any other side in the world.
@dnkfcr
@dnkfcr 10 ай бұрын
So you admit the city team is better?
@Darth-Boner
@Darth-Boner 10 ай бұрын
Yeah but everyone player in squad is rated above 8/10 on a good day and over so there not crap players
@justwtf3216
@justwtf3216 10 ай бұрын
Seems like someone forgot that this season, players had to play at the World Cup in the middle of the season. This certain someone also forgot that the qualities of teams in the Premier League are very different from the 90s.
@warrenmcclay25
@warrenmcclay25 11 ай бұрын
Gotta rate utd for having a lot of home grown talent in that squad
@elitesam7789
@elitesam7789 11 ай бұрын
Yeah right. Like they could keep those homegrown players if they didn't have the highest wage bill 🤡
@LM-cv7uv
@LM-cv7uv 11 ай бұрын
​@@elitesam7789England's highest earners 1998/99 1. Alan shearer - 28k 2.michael Owen 24k 3.duncan Ferguson 21k 4. Chris Sutton 21k 5.marcel desailly 20k 6. Kanu 20k 7. Viera 20k 8. Emanuel petit 20k 9. Beckham 17.5k 10.keane 17.5k 11. Giggs 17.5k 12. Ginola 14k Tell me again how they wage bill was the highest?
@ishaandas3587
@ishaandas3587 10 ай бұрын
@@LM-cv7uv for that time that was lot
@LM-cv7uv
@LM-cv7uv 10 ай бұрын
@@ishaandas3587 can you not read? Man utd didn't have a player on the list until 9th, and then all 3 of the players they had on the list were on the same wage🤦 blackburn, Liverpool, Newcastle and arsenal all had players on higher wages than utds top earners. And all you come out with is that's alot for back then? Not ganna mention the fact shearer wage alone is 60% higher than utds top earner🤡
@do4240
@do4240 10 ай бұрын
@@elitesam7789doesn’t matter the fact that united brought in their own players from academy. Only players City brought through was Phil foden and rico Lewis. Everyone else was bought
@britpackdog4545
@britpackdog4545 11 ай бұрын
Imagine an Arsenal fan and a Spurs fan talking about who's treble is best, like waifs outside a victorian sweet shop looking through the window at something they'll never possess.
@miamitten1123
@miamitten1123 10 ай бұрын
It’s about talking football. Channels that ONLY talk about their clubs are boring.
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings
@HumanBeingsRThinkingBeings 10 ай бұрын
Utd said City will never win CL City done far superior Treble
@mohamedramy1237
@mohamedramy1237 8 ай бұрын
They are still football fans at the end of the day
@SushiTime1981
@SushiTime1981 Күн бұрын
Could say the same about looking into the invincible sweet shop.
@SWAG-np7gz
@SWAG-np7gz 11 ай бұрын
Mancity didn't get enough credit that they deserves.
@fifty-five6929
@fifty-five6929 11 ай бұрын
Fax just the agenda
@meme-ku6xn
@meme-ku6xn 11 ай бұрын
Credit for what? Buying trophies 😂
@user-ql3ko2tr9i
@user-ql3ko2tr9i 11 ай бұрын
​@@meme-ku6xnmaking you cry
@aymoji9479
@aymoji9479 11 ай бұрын
115 FFP charges they don’t deserve anything
@fivehundrediq5212
@fivehundrediq5212 11 ай бұрын
@@aymoji9479cry harder
@mh4841
@mh4841 11 ай бұрын
They also forget this City team would probably not be able to play on the pitches, equipment and take the tackles from 20 years ago. Point being each team was set up for their own era. Nowadays they get the best nutrition, physical and mental care so it is what it is.
@samuelf494
@samuelf494 11 ай бұрын
So that means that this City side is a better team…
@mh4841
@mh4841 11 ай бұрын
@@samuelf494 not if they were playing in 1998.
@samuelf494
@samuelf494 11 ай бұрын
@@mh4841 I think Peps record vs Manchester United speaks for itself tbh.
@vcsl14
@vcsl14 11 ай бұрын
Putting the physicality to one side, City are also much better tactically, far more complete in the offensive and defensive phases, much better in transition. Partly down to a progression of tactical rigour in the game, but mostly down to Pep’s genius.
@icj8663
@icj8663 11 ай бұрын
Bernardo silva would of been eaten alive 25 yrs ago
@isrln
@isrln 11 ай бұрын
Malteser stil salt crying over united. Waffling about comprehensive performances if it wasnt for lukaku they wouldnt have even won the ucl. The fact its taken 7 year with all the recruitment is embarrassing
@wangponorbubhutia7170
@wangponorbubhutia7170 10 ай бұрын
Robbie can’t wrap his head around the giggs solo goal 😂
@seymourskinner571
@seymourskinner571 10 ай бұрын
Probably harder to do with a team of academy graduates than a team with £100 million players on the bench. There was still competition left when united won the treble also
@happygolucky555
@happygolucky555 11 ай бұрын
City had an easier final than Man Utd
@Bexty11
@Bexty11 11 ай бұрын
City played all big names in Europe before though. Real and Bayern that’s some damn tough draws
@revefestival9385
@revefestival9385 11 ай бұрын
City played the likes of real madrid and bayern munich … City making it look easy does not mean they are easy opponents
@daniilgospodinov9983
@daniilgospodinov9983 11 ай бұрын
⁠@@revefestival9385 ​​⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠ and United got out of a group containing Bayern and Barca and then beat Inter and Juve on the way to the final and beat Bayern in the final but I digress. I would say City have looked more dominant just because no other team is on their level because If you look around Europe most big teams are rebuilding or just getting a bit older (other than PSG but that is a shit show every season) and this maybe helped City because they’ve had the same squad and manger for years, only big change was Haaland this year and that was a positive change. I commend City they have bought the right players and them getting Pep when they did made them the team they are today. The only reason I don’t rate this treble is cause of the illegal shit the owners of City have allegedly done to get them to where they are now.
@tomben6180
@tomben6180 11 ай бұрын
@@daniilgospodinov9983Madrid won the league and CL last season. You say they’re rebuilding because City demolished them. You won’t credit City with that though.
@daniilgospodinov9983
@daniilgospodinov9983 11 ай бұрын
@@tomben6180 I credit them for beating Real its just I cant ignore the fact that Modric, Kroos and Benzema are a year older and all 3 over the age of 33 and they are key players for them. Compare them to Haaland, Rodri and Gundogan and its like a 9 year difference on avarage 35 to 26. City is in their prime while Madrid is at the end of an era. You guys shouldve beaten them in 2022 CL but were missing a killer upfront and this year you got one in Haaland. Be happy while you still have him cause as soon as Lewa retires I can see Barca coming in for him and getting him or even Madrid if they fail to get Mbappe.
@teddyeastside8051
@teddyeastside8051 11 ай бұрын
Man City weren’t even that good in their finals. If they had to play the treble winning United in both finals then United would have won. They would have still won the league but that’s all they would have won this season.
@markdavidd7156
@markdavidd7156 9 ай бұрын
Ryan Giggs goal vs Arsenal 1999 was brilliant
@Shamraz
@Shamraz 11 ай бұрын
United made history! Moments for life!
@shkafity6418
@shkafity6418 11 ай бұрын
Man city in the final werent comprehensive either. Inter shouldve scored atleast two
@Ice_surfer101
@Ice_surfer101 11 ай бұрын
You are right, but we can’t deny the route to the final. 8-1 4-1 5-1
@y2k42y2k42
@y2k42y2k42 11 ай бұрын
Same can be argued for City? Bernardo shot after 3mins or Foden 1 of the 2 chances should of gone in 😂
@Indperm1310
@Indperm1310 11 ай бұрын
Should have, would have, could have
@charlesaade
@charlesaade 11 ай бұрын
So Man Utd in 99 played more difficult teams than the poor league teams of this year in the PL? Also winning against Arsenal in 99 is definitely tougher than winning against this years arsenal
@charlesaade
@charlesaade 11 ай бұрын
@aieiqc9d then I’ll ask the question is it easier to gain points In the current league or the 99 league? Also ask the question would this Arsenal team beat the 99 Arsenal team?
@MrYounis26
@MrYounis26 11 ай бұрын
​@@charlesaade arsenal fan here, this team is beating the 99 arsenal side, and also the league is way tougher now, Newcastle will win the 99 premier league, so would Brighton and out of form Liverpool or Chelsea.
@charlesaade
@charlesaade 11 ай бұрын
@@MrYounis26 I don’t believe so. The game in 99 was tougher, yes this arsenal team has more technical ability but just like how this team bottled the league because of a lack of mentality, I think the 99 teams were mentality monsters who would do anything to win a game of football. They would bully and target arsenal players of this year and grind them down. Football isn’t just about who had more ability and teams in 99 were In an era of every match was a dogfight at times
@sezuin_6577
@sezuin_6577 9 ай бұрын
He really said United only won the UCL because they were fortunate. So by his logic, like half of Madrid's UCL's are lucky 😂
@Nacho_22439
@Nacho_22439 11 ай бұрын
Fortunate Robbie, go look at the teams United faced on their way to the final and compare it to the teams City faced on their way to the final.
@ashconbeats8414
@ashconbeats8414 11 ай бұрын
Let’s be honest. Man City did not dominate Inter or Man united in either final. Also Man Uniteds 99 first 11 was better than Man City’s current team!
@y2k42y2k42
@y2k42y2k42 11 ай бұрын
😂
@hiderz
@hiderz 11 ай бұрын
U act like munich werent miles better than utd in the final to the point they were taking players off cos they thought they won
@kuroo9805
@kuroo9805 11 ай бұрын
Utd got lucky with that penalty but they weren't even near to win the match. Even utd fans know that city team passes were sloppy and were not upto there full potential and still they won. Yeah inter gave them a rough game.
@jonnyhill1155
@jonnyhill1155 11 ай бұрын
​@@hiderz manunited beat the r9 inter ,juve ,Bayern etc to win the whole thing and also went through in a group involving barca and bayern
@AGE_97
@AGE_97 11 ай бұрын
No they're not. Don't be deluded.
@natalkumar6132
@natalkumar6132 11 ай бұрын
This United team's victory was a miracle and the first. The City's treble was just a matter of when not if. City just are too op and sometimes, in life you got to see the dog days to appreciate the golden times ahead.
@abhinavthakur6500
@abhinavthakur6500 11 ай бұрын
He is comparing while his team has no idea what winning CL feels like 😂😂
@Ronny7MU
@Ronny7MU 11 ай бұрын
Peter shmiechal will never ever let haalands dumb tap ins go through 😂
@MBJ2023
@MBJ2023 11 ай бұрын
So what you’re saying is Man City won’t theirs easier as they played shitter teams in those finals lol. Man Utd we’re not favourites to beat Arsenal in that semi final against Arsenal, nor were they favourites to win that champions league final. You can’t say scoring 2 goals in 2 mins lucky. Man Utd had a majority of their team come up from the youth team, unlike city, it’s not really even comparable.
@twotwolow2343
@twotwolow2343 11 ай бұрын
We talking who's the best team not who have the bes luck Ur statement alone saying united wasn't the favorite then we already know who's better team then?😅 We going to finals and we are the favorite to win
@MBJ2023
@MBJ2023 11 ай бұрын
@@twotwolow2343 the question was if you actually watched the clip was ‘was Man City’s treble better than Man Utd’s?’ It was Robbie who bought in luck lmfao another idiot commenting without actually paying any attention to what’s being actually said. Typical plastic City fan. I bet you think football didn’t exist before 2011 lmfao
@philthornton1382
@philthornton1382 11 ай бұрын
United would win Better manager Better goalie Better defence Better tactics Home grown core
@mosesclinton1163
@mosesclinton1163 11 ай бұрын
You do realise ferguson has never beaten pep right
@abundantball
@abundantball 10 ай бұрын
The Fact that United's Treble winning starting 11 (in UCL final) costed less than Jack Grealish.. (without inflation)
@edfelson2157
@edfelson2157 8 ай бұрын
You need to take your own name into consideration with this post!! Inflation!!
@abundantball
@abundantball 7 ай бұрын
@@edfelson2157 yeah, i forgot my bad, im corrected
@Randomuser512
@Randomuser512 11 ай бұрын
Just remember Paul Scholes or Roy Keane didn’t play in the final….. that’s like having not having Kevin De Bruyne and Gündoğan in the final.
@Micfri300
@Micfri300 11 ай бұрын
Scholes and Keane in their prime are levels ahead
@tomben6180
@tomben6180 11 ай бұрын
Did you miss KDB going off injured half way through the first half 😂
@garycroft4960
@garycroft4960 3 ай бұрын
​@@Micfri300not in Kevin de bruynes league scholes .
@Micfri300
@Micfri300 3 ай бұрын
@@garycroft4960 and what has de bruyne done for Belgium on an international level? Not one single final.
@garycroft4960
@garycroft4960 3 ай бұрын
@@Micfri300 what did Paul Scholes do for England.
@burco78
@burco78 11 ай бұрын
United didn’t spend billions to win that triple …. Second, most of the big teams who could’ve challenged city this year didn’t show up …. Liverpool Chelsea United… it was an easy one for city …. Let’s see if this team manage to keep any of that momentum next year.
@bigwin629
@bigwin629 11 ай бұрын
Facts united had jive and bayern in treble winning season
@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49
@MANCHESTER.IS.BLUE.49 11 ай бұрын
City boiling piss😅😅
@meleshangovender562
@meleshangovender562 11 ай бұрын
Love how fans other then man city and man utd fans have this debate more. 😂😂😂
@Camden472
@Camden472 11 ай бұрын
I think Robbie is still salty over arsenal losing to that Ryan Giggs goal in 99
@newname7055
@newname7055 11 ай бұрын
Yes imo. Edit 3 - tldr: Anyways, thanks for all the comments, they're definitely interesting reads and provide a good sample of opinions mainly in favour of Man Uniteds. I still feel City had the more difficult treble overall, but the special factor for Man Utd regarding their once youth academy players is amazing in itself. Think I mentioned it earlier but this is one of those "debates" that will be going on for the rest of both clubs' history, which is a good thing imo but I am a neutral in regards to the Manchester teams. Apologies if I came on strong at times or anything, I just think the majority say Man Utd and merely wanted to offer reasons as to why City's win needs more credit than it's getting. Original: No way Man Utd would've won a treble with VAR and a world cup mid season. And the game is way more demanding nowadays than back then especially with Pep's approach. Also Man Utd had the opportunity to stop the treble, and failed. Edit - amazing how many people ignore the mid season world cup, or try to justify that it wasn't important because apparently footballers were better back in the 1990s merely because rules were more lax... There were still plenty of matches to compete in even with the stop-start nature, and the pace of the game gets ruined under VAR. Also, the 1990s had a massive drinking culture within football, and it was only really when Wenger came in with his training & dietary routines that things began to change, and he only came in at 1996. So basically younger players under stricter routines would do better vs the older players and even the players of clubs who did not adopt any of these measures. What Fergie did at Utd was great, but I believe with these factors mentioned that Pep's accomplishment outshines 1999. I would agree that the 1999 treble was more special given the players coming through the youth system and all, but that doesn't make it the better accomplishment imo given the factors I have mentioned. Edit 2 - Just calculating the premier league in 1999 and 2023 - the GD of all clubs come to 0 in both seasons. The notion that football was better back then because of strong defensive play doesn't really hold much water. The bigger teams score more whilst the poorer teams concede more. Would say that's a good example of the difference in quality of the clubs in the top half vs the bottom half and how it's widened over the years. And I don't buy into the argument that the footballers in the 90s were better merely due to the game being more physical. Game today is generally high pressing & fast paced football if you want to do well, and that is just as demanding if not more given the strict routines required for the modern game now. Edit 3 - I'm of the opinion that people overexaggerate how great football was back in the 90s. I'm of the opinion that a lot of it comes down to nostalgia, especially after having to watch how VAR and soft rules are nowadays. I'm sure people won't agree with that, but nostalgia in general is a strong bias (gaming is a great example - e.g. MW2 back in '09). Anyways, thanks for all the comments, they're definitely interesting reads and provide a good sample of opinions mainly in favour of Man Uniteds. I still feel City had the more difficult treble overall, but the special factor for Man Utd regarding their once youth academy players is amazing in itself. Think I mentioned it earlier but this is one of those "debates" that will be going on for the rest of both clubs' history, which is a good thing imo but I am a neutral in regards to the Manchester teams. Apologies if I came on strong at times or anything, I just think the majority say Man Utd and merely wanted to offer reasons as to why City's win needs more credit than it's getting.
@modinikiluli
@modinikiluli 11 ай бұрын
Not really. Peps approach is cowardly. Anybody who thinks football today is a higher level than 10 15 years ago. Knows nothing about football. You cannot tackle today. If you could city would've been smashed up in the ucl like they are used too.
@Bsnaoa
@Bsnaoa 11 ай бұрын
@@modinikiluli bro called the best manager of all time a coward💀 these United fans are salting the street for winter
@newname7055
@newname7055 11 ай бұрын
@@modinikiluli If that were the case Pep would've signed physical players. Attacking, possession based football isn't cowardly either. Utd had the opportunity to stop the treble and failed.
@mysportsroundup5387
@mysportsroundup5387 11 ай бұрын
@@newname7055 how naive to make it seem like it’s harder to achieve now because of VAR United had to deal with a much tougher game back then (harder tackles) and a lot worse playing surfaces, imagine this city team trying to play their current game back then, definitely would not be the outcome we see today. Both great teams in different eras with not to much need to compare them. Arsenal had the chance to beat United in the fa cup that year and failed. That’s life. All you need to know is that they have both had a better single season than any other English team.
@tytheeblaiseR
@tytheeblaiseR 11 ай бұрын
The game is much easier today that's why United get beat 7-0 and Barcelona get beat 8-2... Back then it was physical teams fought like pitbulls and you think what Pep is playing today is new, maybe in England but in Spain and German Barca and Ajax have been doing it for ages.
@hurryupharryg
@hurryupharryg 11 ай бұрын
City hands down
@Micfri300
@Micfri300 11 ай бұрын
Lol😂😂
@tomben6180
@tomben6180 11 ай бұрын
@@Micfri300why’s that funny?
@Micfri300
@Micfri300 11 ай бұрын
@@tomben6180 i don't know.. Maybe the fact that Manchester united were the only relevant English team in the 90s in european competitions and beat Juventus barcelona bayern munich and inter along the way to win that champions league final meanwhile city beat the Great lepizig in the last 16 and a real Madrid team in transition..
@tomben6180
@tomben6180 11 ай бұрын
@@Micfri300 That’s absolute rubbish, Arsenal won the European Cup Winners Cup in 1992, Chelsea won it in 1998. You’re clearly a Utd fan who wasn’t around in the 90s. United hadn’t won a league or European trophy in 27 years when they were spending double what everyone else was. All from the Edwards family… who were a sugar daddy
@Micfri300
@Micfri300 11 ай бұрын
@@tomben6180 the European cup winners cup was the domestic cup winners who didn't already qualify for the uefa cup or champions league.. Nice try buddy. The premier league was below the Bundesliga serie a and la liga in the 90s.. Stop trying to distort reality.
@kaskovic1993
@kaskovic1993 11 ай бұрын
That Man Utd team had more competition. Also this City team in the final of Fa Cup and CL was not blown out of the water. Also City became better after the world cup. Before that Arsenal was on top.
@noelalexis3239
@noelalexis3239 8 ай бұрын
Tbh I rate this treble winning Man city side highly, but Utd's comeback against Bayern in that final was just out of this world
@livnorium4207
@livnorium4207 11 ай бұрын
Man Utd got the treble without unlimited money and with academy players. How is this even a debate
@Dahir11
@Dahir11 11 ай бұрын
Then go cry about it
@kingplatform2255
@kingplatform2255 11 ай бұрын
Man Utd always had money, what u saying
@Indperm1310
@Indperm1310 11 ай бұрын
Surely Keane, Cole, Yorke, Stam, Sheringham all came from youth academy 😅
@Micfri300
@Micfri300 11 ай бұрын
​@@Indperm1310 scholes giggs Beckham neville butt..
@tomben6180
@tomben6180 11 ай бұрын
@@Micfri300United broke the British transfer record 6 times in the 1990s. City have done it 1 time under Pep. Sure they had a few youth players but literally everyone did back then! They spent double what other clubs were and City aren’t even the biggest spenders now! United spend more than City these days!
@beatlebrian4404
@beatlebrian4404 11 ай бұрын
United won their treble, when football was a much more physical game! They may have been lucky in the Champions League final, but they were missing both Roy Keane and Paul Scholes.
@anonymousMotivator2023
@anonymousMotivator2023 10 ай бұрын
That 99 team vs City’s treble team would outplay and beat them easily. That utd team from 07-09 was just something else. Didnt win a treble but that league and ucl double in 08 was imo better than utd’s 99. But then again 3 trophies better than 2.
@amjadbary459
@amjadbary459 10 ай бұрын
An arsenal fan and a spurs fan talking about the treble?😂 know your levels man. You don’t even have the rights to make this a debate
@ismailiqbal2029
@ismailiqbal2029 11 ай бұрын
This city team was predicted a treble for 4 years. The united team did it as a surprise. If you have to live through one the United one would be far better imo.
@muhammada4297
@muhammada4297 11 ай бұрын
What everyone was shitting on city halfway through the season saying they are finished? Now you guys wanna change the narrative?
@atstriker947
@atstriker947 8 ай бұрын
​@@muhammada4297u still got 115 charges to escape mate.
@user-ii8oy3qg2t
@user-ii8oy3qg2t 11 ай бұрын
United did it with 5 academy players in the team that season, city had 1 and he only played because kdb got injured
@celestineozo6513
@celestineozo6513 9 ай бұрын
Argument coming from an Arsenal and Tottenham fan who would never go to such a final. When you remember the teams United over ran, to get to that final. From group stage With Barca with the best players then, meeting Juve with the great Italian defence 🪁 . I don't even know how people factor their arguments
@user-to1sr8bm2u
@user-to1sr8bm2u 11 ай бұрын
How can one treble be better than another? Makes no sense. Different teams different eras different everything. Stop comparing and start praising
@Pengboycarti
@Pengboycarti 11 ай бұрын
Uniteds 08 team was arguably better than the United treble winning side, you can argue not more than 2-3 City players even make that first 11😂
@samuelf494
@samuelf494 11 ай бұрын
Thats just being delusional for the sake of it
@Pengboycarti
@Pengboycarti 11 ай бұрын
@@samuelf494 Ronaldo, Tevez, Rooney, Carrick, Scholes (argue age but overall greatness is undeniable over any City mid), Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra, Van De Sar, Neville (debatable with Walker but overall career he arguably wins). Hope this, actually, helps.
@samuelf494
@samuelf494 11 ай бұрын
@@Pengboycarti Yeah Carrick is definitely better than KDB 😂😂
@Pengboycarti
@Pengboycarti 11 ай бұрын
@@samuelf494 KDB and Carrick are not the same player. Carrick is almost what Rodri is today. But continue with another inept comment.
@samuelf494
@samuelf494 11 ай бұрын
@@Pengboycarti Actual combined XI Walker, Rodri, KDB, Bernardo Silva, and Haaland definitely make it. There’s also an argument for Stones, Dias, Ake and Grealish.
@cityzens9888
@cityzens9888 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely this treble is more comprehensive than utd did 1999 because city beat utd in fa cup final so it's more special com on city
@adebayoluq
@adebayoluq 8 ай бұрын
"They were fortunate" were has Arsenal's luck been for not winning champions league. Check the opponents Man Utd faced to the final. We played a good Barcelona, Internationale, Juventus and Bayern. They were all at best in those days. Inter Milan squandered 1 on 1 chances but fail to score against city. Thisnis football.
@Squi44
@Squi44 11 ай бұрын
Comprehensively? By financial doping?
@ifiwas195
@ifiwas195 9 ай бұрын
Any city fan that believes their treble was better than United’s need to give themselves a slap. United arguably beat better teams along the way and all with mostly home grown talent. They made history as the first English team to do so. It will NEVER be equalled.
@jonzoshokk
@jonzoshokk 8 ай бұрын
An arsenal fan who’s only accomplishment is the invincibles when half the games where draws is saying the city treble side is better than Uniteds. The 2008 squad would slap this city side around with fergie.
@gabnest
@gabnest 11 ай бұрын
Never seen a team as dominant as city so consistently in England
@user-wl3gn6rx1m
@user-wl3gn6rx1m 10 ай бұрын
The difference is that back in the day teams were wayyyyy beter than they are now
@PyroMiniYak
@PyroMiniYak 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@Sellinsoap
@Sellinsoap 10 ай бұрын
you’re not serious right?
@mystx9773
@mystx9773 8 ай бұрын
Over half our squad was players we brought up from the academy city’s is not and yet we were paying more
@bubpvp9833
@bubpvp9833 10 ай бұрын
Two clubs that never done it talking about two clubs that did. Rent free lmaooo
@jordan7339
@jordan7339 11 ай бұрын
City - machine United - fortunate
@Micfri300
@Micfri300 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@samroberts6697
@samroberts6697 9 ай бұрын
Can’t believe an Arsenal fan is praising City 🤣
@anzsolo1025
@anzsolo1025 10 ай бұрын
Man U. The route they had in the UCL that year was ridiculous! Going toe to toe with the defending champions in the league, and also playing an epic semi final in the FA cup. And there squad was no where mere as packed and talent as Man Cities current squats. All coming from a Gooner!
@adedamolaadeseye730
@adedamolaadeseye730 10 ай бұрын
Robbie is only saying this bc Arsenal lost the league and FA Cup that season
@ashishnair12
@ashishnair12 10 ай бұрын
People talk about Man Utd needing luck to win that CL final forget that they played a completely different midfield in that game due to both Keane & Scholes being suspended due to which Nicky Butt & Beckham were in central midfield who I don't know had ever played together in a midfield 2. On top of that Giggs was shifted over to the right to compensate for Beckham & Blomqvist played on the left. No wonder they struggled.
@user-qh1lp7bi2y
@user-qh1lp7bi2y 7 ай бұрын
If they play against each other city would win, shut up, not a chance. Fortunate we had bayern and barca in the group 😊
@tomhall4986
@tomhall4986 10 ай бұрын
United got given the group of death faced the best teams in every competition
@kengbrissy3074
@kengbrissy3074 6 ай бұрын
City are by far the better, they dominated football... But I admit I've never seen City playing nervously like they did against Inter, they were really scared to bottle it...
@aaronmatthews1236
@aaronmatthews1236 9 ай бұрын
United did it in a shorter period of time, it was more exciting, and they where the first to do it. No one can ever take that away from them.
@njnbrlre2679
@njnbrlre2679 11 ай бұрын
WTF?? A WIN IS A WIN Cause you were too good to loose
@tuffeegaming8715
@tuffeegaming8715 11 ай бұрын
Just enjoy both 👍
@tacticalfoul1101
@tacticalfoul1101 9 ай бұрын
Imagine trying to downplay a win because it was a last minute winner absolute delusion see how he reacts if arsenal ever win a final in the last minute😂
@Nikos169
@Nikos169 10 ай бұрын
Yeah Robbie , the way United beat Arsenal in the that FA cup, Semi Final with only 10 men, after Ryan Giggs took on half your Arsenal defence on his own.. was REALLY lucky!! 😂 🤣
@chrish9653
@chrish9653 10 ай бұрын
City struggled in the champions league final too DONT let that go over ya heads
@c.d714
@c.d714 9 ай бұрын
Both are great teams. Different eras. End of the day, united did it first, class of 92. City team might have beaten united but united is just a bit more special.
@captainfalconmain6576
@captainfalconmain6576 9 ай бұрын
I don’t trust this city team whenever they play away games they play a shit game
@Mohab7274
@Mohab7274 10 ай бұрын
Man City didn't win the treble so easily, most of the time they were second behind Arsenal in the league. And in the FA Cup Final they only won by one goal, in the UCL Final they also won by one goal and if it hadn't been for Lukaku they probably would have lost that.
@ricky1912
@ricky1912 10 ай бұрын
People forget that Man united was a rich club before glazers. No one can be a underdog team and have the likes big star names at the same time. The problem with rich clubs only arises when its the opponent. Like if i give you a chance that you can convince a billionaire who invests really well to join your favourite club. Appoints good players, good coaches and forms a great and formidable unit. I can bet 110% everyone's gonna take that option.
@myworkgmail4802
@myworkgmail4802 10 ай бұрын
City is different in that they were absolute powerhouse dominating teams. Very impressive But Utd's treble will always be more memorable. Bunch of lads fighting and clawing their way past some of the biggest teams and players in history. Pure Drama and class to watch.
@JiTiAr35
@JiTiAr35 11 ай бұрын
In terms of quality, City treble would've beaten Utd treble, all pundits agree. But fans don't want to view from the quality perspective anyway.
@jcgaming908
@jcgaming908 11 ай бұрын
Pundits are sometimes idiots and a lot of them have hatred towards united also the league was harder back then and players back then actually cared for the game and weren't greedy.
@matthewporras3815
@matthewporras3815 11 ай бұрын
3-0s, 4-0s, multiple 5-0s. This city team is the definition of dominant. Remember they weren’t even in first before the WC break. 1 goal allowed in the FA cup…12 games
@Judas08
@Judas08 10 ай бұрын
City wins an UCL, they had a very deep squad.. And the top heavy team had to put their players for the World Cup..
@Htttttttt795
@Htttttttt795 6 ай бұрын
Let’s be real competition back on the day was far greater
@myleshigh4225
@myleshigh4225 10 ай бұрын
The answer becomes clear when you consider who each team beat to win their trebles. The 99 team was playing in a far more competitive era
@TheJohnnyJohnny
@TheJohnnyJohnny 10 ай бұрын
I'll say if Man United squad of the 90s glorious days playing the current glorious Man City squad, the rivalry intensity will be out of this world. It would phase out all rivalry even Messi and Ronaldo El Classico.
@boney__70
@boney__70 10 ай бұрын
for anyone forgetting, that 99 Man Utd have SCHMEICHEL, IRWIN, NEVILLE, STAM, ROY KEANE,BECKHAM, SCHOLES, ANDY COLE, YORKE AND SOLKSJAER...and yeah SAF on his prime that year
@Nicholas_Jackson_is_not_22
@Nicholas_Jackson_is_not_22 3 ай бұрын
Would you rather win 5-0 or 3-2 having gone 0-2 down? As a United supporter, I'll take the comeback win all day every day.
@BarrentSanjaya
@BarrentSanjaya 3 ай бұрын
I rather win 5-0 cuz i can't take a heart attack
@Nicholas_Jackson_is_not_22
@Nicholas_Jackson_is_not_22 3 ай бұрын
@@BarrentSanjaya then you'd have to support man city. Manchester United has always been a team you fall in love with because of the late come backs. Have you forgotten the world famous "Fergie time"? I fell in love with United not because we blew teams out of the water, but because we'd give our opposition hope and snatch it away at the last second. AMAZING!
@BarrentSanjaya
@BarrentSanjaya 3 ай бұрын
@@Nicholas_Jackson_is_not_22 ok fair enough but if you not score big then you probably have more chance of losing than winning. You need luck to do a comeback win.
@Nicholas_Jackson_is_not_22
@Nicholas_Jackson_is_not_22 3 ай бұрын
That's true. But even if we get closer to the playing style of city, we'll have those special comeback wins. Always.
@ntandoblose7333
@ntandoblose7333 11 ай бұрын
Yes because it the third PL in a row, we beaten our city rival to take the FA cup and we won against 3x UCL champion to claim the trophy
@dregen8662
@dregen8662 8 ай бұрын
United didn't cheat, hyge difference
@luizhumbertocampos1103
@luizhumbertocampos1103 7 ай бұрын
Inter was better than City in the UCL final. They lost because Lukaku and Lautaro wasted clear chances.
@docrakidocraki8067
@docrakidocraki8067 10 ай бұрын
United had harder competition that’s why City looks more dominant. Who tf contended with city in the epl? Arsenal? Who have been mediocre for the last decade. Every top team in the epl was struggling this year. And all the classic European top teams where also struggling. Madrid , Bayern, Chelsea, Liverpool, juventus. United won the treble against world class teams in the epl and Europe.
@mandmsmapper8400
@mandmsmapper8400 8 ай бұрын
Manchester united won the treble in the strongest era of football. Manchester City treble winner squad is very strong but at the time manchester united did it, there were a lot of good teams, good names than today's era either in England or whole europe. Manchester City won it when there were less contender and more teams are off form that us, arsenal can easily get second place instead of barely top 4. City were also lucky we bottle the league. Because of manchester united did it in the strongest era that make them didn't win it easily. Even us were a better team that time that we are now. It's ridiculous if you say manchester city have a better treble than manchester united. You need to look at what time they did it.
@rinshabbizarro1166
@rinshabbizarro1166 8 ай бұрын
Not brilliant robbie it's iconic
@goonern4644
@goonern4644 3 күн бұрын
City left no question unanswered. Dominant home and abroad. Utd were great, but a Last minute Bergkamp penalty miss and a battering from Bayern in the Champions League final was flukey. I'd take though.
@ranaatif2550
@ranaatif2550 10 ай бұрын
the defenders they had then would have send haaland to hospital like in first 20 seconds
@mimikatz
@mimikatz 10 ай бұрын
United played: Barca x2, Bayern x3, Inter and Juve in their prime with the worlds best players. They best Arsenal on the way to the final of FA Cup and won the Premiership after Arsenal had done the double the season before. There is comparison of who would win, impossible to say but it’s clear who had a much more challenging treble. It’s pathetic to say “United were spending more than everyone” after Arsenal had just done the double. It goes to show how much parity there was in the league and how much these two brothers have short memories.
@alanyorwerth6684
@alanyorwerth6684 9 ай бұрын
Look at the teams utd had to overcome in the champions league also look at the league and fa cup utd had to overcome a brilliant Arsenal team. And arsenal were a fantastic team
@johnwhyte7834
@johnwhyte7834 11 ай бұрын
No one forgets their first....
@masterchief1520
@masterchief1520 11 ай бұрын
And their only ever 😂. Good luck united
@levihl0
@levihl0 10 ай бұрын
I get the argument for either but crazy how when comparing stuff in football just if one is more recent than the other it’s always automatically better. I think if they played 10 times they’d beat each other five each, or even that United side would take 6.
@dickensism
@dickensism 6 ай бұрын
The CL teams were way better in 99. Juventus, Bayern, Inter, Barca were incredibly strong. Only City and Madrid are at that level in past few seasons.
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