Was Scream VI Too Similar To Scream 2?!

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@JKemp07
@JKemp07 Жыл бұрын
Since Scream 2 is my favourite sequel, i was happy to see all the similarities and call backs! It was a blast!
@austindaniels4827
@austindaniels4827 Жыл бұрын
i really liked the motive for 6. i like it better than scream 2s even tho mickey is my favorite killer, his motive wasn’t expanded on enough and he wasn’t the focus, which is unfortunate cuz there’s a lot more mickey to dive into
@hollyrose2418
@hollyrose2418 Жыл бұрын
Same! Mrs. Loom is wasn’t intimidating at all. Take away her gun and she wasn’t going to do anything.
@scottchaison1001
@scottchaison1001 Жыл бұрын
@@hollyrose2418 Don't say stupid things.
@hollyrose2418
@hollyrose2418 Жыл бұрын
@@scottchaison1001 is she your fav gf? Sorry I offended you
@robby7499
@robby7499 Жыл бұрын
Personally wouldn't say that. I felt Bailey's grief was more believable than Mrs. Loomis's largely because she seemed more upset about how people perceived her as a parent rather than the fact her son was killed. That, and the other difference is that Mindy does not get the ax as Randy did. And of course, there are more than one or two Ghostfaces. But I could expect the seventh film to take some inspiration from Scream 3.
@scottchaison1001
@scottchaison1001 Жыл бұрын
No.
@robby7499
@robby7499 Жыл бұрын
I mean the 2022 one is the boyfriend being the killer; you have the vengeful parent in the sequel; next would be a mastermind that was behind both killing sprees in 3.
@bobbysbreakdowns
@bobbysbreakdowns Жыл бұрын
Im gonna start off by saying it was similar to scream 2 but with its own twist in a way. The part where they were in the park was the same scene essentially from scream 2 when randy got killed, the college setting theme was also nod to scream 2. Even Chad looked liked Cotton Weary in the ending with the hoodie and jeans but there were different things I really enjoyed such as the three killers, the opening kills, ghostface using A shot gun ect the setting in the city to me it did enough to revisit the past movies but do its own thing as well
@MichaelPotter-rw6do
@MichaelPotter-rw6do Жыл бұрын
What was cool about the Wes Craven/Kevin Williamson films (1, 2, and 4) is that the killers each had a separate motive, so that way if people didn’t dig one, there was another to fall back on. 3 and the Radio Silence films have relied on one, so if the motive doesn’t work for some people, there’s not another one to fall back on. For example, 6 is just revenge, whereas 2 is revenge and blaming the movies since that was such a topical issue at the time.
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
Richie wanted to give Hollywood better ideas like the arrogant little prick he was. His family wanted to blame all of the murders on Sam. I see no similarities here.
@Justafox305
@Justafox305 Жыл бұрын
That makes sense. You are right, when there are two ghost face, there are always two separate motives. It’s usually not a United motive
@natdacake
@natdacake Жыл бұрын
6 actually felt like a mix of 2&3. It actually felt more like 3 except for the parent as ghostface part. The New York part was even similar as how 3 was in Hollywood, just the ghostface takes on a big city thing.
@xtronvultron4811
@xtronvultron4811 Жыл бұрын
The answer is no! It’s not exactly the same movie, even I made a video explaining the reasons why it’s not, Scream 6 has a way different opening scene, compared to Scream 2, and possibly the most shocking opening in the franchise, with Scream 6, also 6 is only on college for a little bit of the movie, and is mainly In the New York setting, while Scream 2 is mainly just at college, Scream 6 Ghostface uses a shotgun, kills somebody off a ladder, and is overall more brutal in Scream 6 compared to 2, in Scream 2 I guess the cop with the pole in his head is brutal, but that’s really it for me, also Ghostface has a old aged worn out mask, and we also got our first Detective killer in this franchise, and a family of killers, and 3 killers, also I feel like Detective Bailey specifically, got good screen time, and was set up better then Mrs Loomis, who was bearly in the film, detective Bailey, set up his plan, and while of course the motive is the same as Scream 2, I still think Scream 6 executed it better, I like seeing how Detective Bailey is explaining how he might be at some fault, as a parent for pushing the stab films onto Richie, and he even gives a little bit more backstory onto Richie, while Mrs Loomis didn’t really do those things, so idk Scream 6 did the revenge motive thing better imo, and overall Scream 6 is just a way different film compared to Scream 2, so fans can point out the motive, and of course the college setting, but Scream 6 like I said wasn’t just on the college campus the whole movie.
@flashskywalker1380
@flashskywalker1380 Жыл бұрын
What they said ^ :)
@xtronvultron4811
@xtronvultron4811 Жыл бұрын
@@flashskywalker1380 Thanks dude!!🙏
@samuelbrown7831
@samuelbrown7831 Жыл бұрын
It was a mixture of Scream 2, 3 and some elements of 4. Not the same but heavily inspired by Scream 2
@BrittanyRoseWright
@BrittanyRoseWright Жыл бұрын
I love Scream 2, love how some things were similar but in a very different way. I absolutely love and enjoy Scream 6 and would definitely go watch it again and again. Oh, and Kirby! Love her and so happy to have her back. Great video!
@sethalexander9833
@sethalexander9833 Жыл бұрын
My ranking is scream, scream 6, scream 5, scream 2, scream 4 and then 3
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
Good ranking!!
@timgillam4199
@timgillam4199 Жыл бұрын
People aren't understanding what a "requel" is. They are remaking Scream 1, 2, 3 but also being a sequel at the same time. Thats why Scream 2022 ended at the Macher house, Scream 6 they were in college and also ended the movie on a theater stage with the lasts killers parent being Ghostface. Scream 2022 - Ritchie = Billy Scream 6 Ritchies father = Mrs Loomis. Dont be surprised if in Scream 7 they are on a movie set. It's a *RE*QUEL
@joshfactor1
@joshfactor1 Жыл бұрын
dude, come on, think about it; in all your years on this planet, have you ever heard of an econ class transpiring at night?
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@jessicabentley1961
@jessicabentley1961 Жыл бұрын
I was saying to myself hey this guy looks an awful lot like the killer from that scream fan film i watched yesterday
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
It me 🤣👻🔪🩸
@Thrillin_Chillin_Drillin
@Thrillin_Chillin_Drillin Жыл бұрын
"Do you remember how these movies work Tara"?? Cringe.
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
I’ll admit, that scene was a bit ham-fisted. Could’ve left it out or shortened it.
@mikeziadat
@mikeziadat Жыл бұрын
Scream > Scream 4 > Scream 2 > Scream 5 > Scream 3 > Scream 6
@sporkdakid
@sporkdakid Жыл бұрын
Its bc Scream V was basically Scream 1 and Scream VI is also Scream 2 and Scream VII is probably gonna be Scream 3.
@redpillalphamale5068
@redpillalphamale5068 Жыл бұрын
All radio silence has done is copy the pattern of the first two movies
@RuthlessDestroyer
@RuthlessDestroyer Жыл бұрын
It’s not like you can do that much different from the previous movies if it’s still just a serial killer wearing a Halloween Costume chasing down teenagers.
@arielperez3613
@arielperez3613 10 ай бұрын
If Scream 7 ends up being one of Sam or Taras long lost siblings I’m going to lose it 🤦🏾‍♀️
@lunajohnson7091
@lunajohnson7091 Жыл бұрын
Scream 5 was to similar with scream 1… it’s called a “reminiscent” for a reason
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
Similar, but not too similar or the same. Totally different vibes with similar plot beats. I’ve seen many movies like that that aren’t even remakes or in the same franchise. Cannibal Holocaust and Green Inferno for example.
@jacobsgrl1
@jacobsgrl1 Жыл бұрын
This is what I think radio is going to do they're going to mirror each movie with their own RS twist
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
I kinda like that. Where the Star Wars requels just did the same thing but worse (4-7, 5-8, 6-9) Scream is approaching the underdeveloped ideas from the past at a new angle. I love what Radio Silence has done here.
@sonnybtt
@sonnybtt Жыл бұрын
I totally knew it was summat Richie esque
@TheDreamingInsomniacs
@TheDreamingInsomniacs Жыл бұрын
2 was a better movie IMO. Did anyone catch the Omega Beta Zeta reference?
@wrestlinggodwrestlinggod-cp5uf
@wrestlinggodwrestlinggod-cp5uf Жыл бұрын
i still love scream 6 but the one thing about what you just said is that Mindy should talk about more movies about requel and i thought her getting stabbed on the subway was pretty scared and horrified and Ethan detective Bailey I like them as a killer and Bailey people comparing him to mrs. loomis he’s not really mrs. loomis his motive was way different than mrs loomis that’s why I love his character scream six is waiting different than scream 2
@kingstewy
@kingstewy Жыл бұрын
It's SUPPOSED TO BE!
@onedudethelegend
@onedudethelegend Жыл бұрын
Scream 7 will be Sam’s half brother 💀
@F_ckyeasteve00
@F_ckyeasteve00 Жыл бұрын
I love Scream 2 and even though I prefer the film itself a bit more than 6, I feel that Detective Bailey is slightly more better than Mrs Loomis.
@markbasilejr9808
@markbasilejr9808 Жыл бұрын
grief past a certain degree looks goofy. Steve-O in SLC punk for example calls Heroin Bob a posuer for dying, which is obviously silly but griefing people often lose those checks on being taken seriously. I like the performance we get for Ms. Loomis in Scream 2, but I am not as hot on the performance during the reveal scene in 6.
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
so you’re saying Mathew Lillards anarchist punk character Steve-O and the Loomis matriarch are going to respond to grief the same way? I just don’t buy that at all.
@markbasilejr9808
@markbasilejr9808 Жыл бұрын
@@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror I'd say that they would both respond in ways that would normally be considered "larger than life", but there's more than one way to be larger than life. *Also Steve-O was a poser the whole time by his own discription at the end of the movie*
@vveoko9952
@vveoko9952 Жыл бұрын
Mindy was very surprising for me bc well it looked like ghost face stabbed the living heck out of her but ig it was all a lie. And I always wanted to know who killed who bc well when ghost face was attacking Sidney in her apartment ghost face was weak and biologically males re usually stronger than females but then again we see ghost face get shot and He or she says “maybe I have a bullet proof vest on” so it’s kinda hard depicting on who killed who. also I feel like Sam isn’t really a good character. Ik some of y’all liked her but really she is the reason why a bunch of people died.
@jeffyoung6117
@jeffyoung6117 Жыл бұрын
Between scream 2 and scream 6, scream 2 i highly consider as my favorite and yes in my honest opinion Billy’s mother was intimidating, her motive was just like she said to Sidney it was good old fashioned revenge and speaking of sequels just like Mickey told Randy during the film class scene, many sequels have surpassed their original.
@RuthlessDestroyer
@RuthlessDestroyer Жыл бұрын
My Scream Ranking: 1. Scream (1996) 2. Scream VI 3. Scream (2022) 4. Scream 2 5. Scream 4 6. Scream 3
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
Killer ranking 😎
@jocksnap
@jocksnap Жыл бұрын
Yes. And, so was Scream 5. Same as first one, killer was the boyfriend. 2, the relative. So, what… scream 7/3, Tara and Sam have a half brother their Mom didn’t mention. And watch it be with fucxing Stu. 🙄
@dontforgettosetthealarm8224
@dontforgettosetthealarm8224 Жыл бұрын
I think Tara will be killed in Scream 7. If they are following a pattern, in Scream 3 Sidneys half brother dies... Sam is the 'new sidney', meaning her half sister could be a goner!! 👀
@michaeldiamond2755
@michaeldiamond2755 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't too similar, but they did completely rip off the ending. I hated that. Other than that I loved 6.
@CaspersEyeSocket
@CaspersEyeSocket Жыл бұрын
sup bro
@dylansnyder
@dylansnyder Жыл бұрын
Screamussy lmaooooo I died
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
👻🔪🩸
@freddie3222
@freddie3222 Жыл бұрын
It wasn't just too similar it was a rip off a complete rip off without a musical number don't make excuses for the Monsters like Rian Johnson and Radio shiters who just want to get hold of a franchise to ruin it and then lie and have people say it was the best one in the franchise but at the end of the day mark Hamill was right and so was Neve Campbell if your a true movie fan stop letting them Do this to to franchises people love and the characters they love them for directors that do this are nothing but lying monsters trying shove crap down our throats.
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
possibly the worst comment ive ever received
@theworldofrsb
@theworldofrsb Жыл бұрын
I love you and your videos, but I don’t get your hard on for Scream 6. It’s a mess on screen and off. I was done with this video when you were talking about being an Ohio native and spotting one thing in Scream 2 that doesn’t fit and then going on to say that the backdrop of Scream 6 is “absolutely and not even with an argument New York City.” Have you ever been to NYC? lol They filmed this movie in Canada in the summer and their version of NYC feels NOTHING like New York. It’s laughably bad. It’s late October and all the girls have their bellies showing, walking around in nighties, Chad is shirtless, etc.. This is not something you do in October in NYC. Also, you refer to the dialogue in S2 as cheesy but say that S6 commits to its darkness. I gotta wonder if we watched the same movie. Because the S6 I saw had Mindy making a joke every time she was stabbed, acting extremely indifferent to her girlfriend’s death right after it happened; it had Chad making joke after joke while he was being chased and attacked - beheadings! - and Sam and Tara literally have a heart to heart immediately - literally immediately - after being stabbed so many times AND while Kirby is bleeding out on the floor in front of them. Also, how did Kirby get a TV that’s ridiculously heavy - the whole point of the Stu can’t be alive debate - to somehow lift up off the stand it was on which was a good two to three feet lower than Ethan’s height and kill him? It’s so stupid. Scream 6 has killer moments, but as a whole, it’s trash. I don’t understand your love for it or your hatred for Mrs. Loomis. Just a reminder that Mrs. Loomis was fat and her husband cheated on her. She was probably driven crazy way before Billy killed anyone. Billy was probably the only one who was nice to her and she felt extreme guilt for abandoning him. Her motive to kill Sidney makes WAY more sense than what the Kirsch family did. So Bailey sent prosthetics to a morgue when Quinn “died??????” Um, yeah. lol It’s so serious.
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
“I love you and your videos but let me write an essay on why your videos suck” Congrats on choosing to waste your own time I guess. And you think I’m an idiot… Thanks for helping me throw this video into the algorithm though!
@theworldofrsb
@theworldofrsb Жыл бұрын
@@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror I never said your videos suck. I love your videos. I just don’t see how you can have these opinions about S6. If it was an opinion where you liked it and I didn’t, that’d be fine and whatever - different strokes for different folks. But you refer to this movie - easily the most cartoonish movie in the entire franchise where almost everyone escapes death and has Lifetime TV movie heart to hearts while bleeding out - as the darkest and most serious entry. It’s basically a parody film. This could easily be Scary Movie 2 parodying Scream 2. Either way, no time wasted on my end or yours! I genuinely wasn’t hating. I just strongly disagree. As a subscriber, I’ve seen your opinions on S6 for weeks and weeks now. I just wanted to respond one time. I’m happy that you love this movie. I certainly love parts of it. Just wish Jasmin and Chad could stop with all the jokes during parts that aren’t meant to be funny and wish the writers would stop writing such sloppy material sometimes. For example, what the hell were Sidney and Gale doing in Scream 5 when Sam was about to be butchered by Richie? Why was the last scene with Gale in S6 so abrupt and vague while scenes with Mindy and Chad were so final but - just kidding - they’re totally fine. That’s happened in two movies now and it’s just fucking bizarre. Anyway, that’s all I wanted to say. Sorry if I pissed you off. You did encourage ppl to leave comments and I was just leaving my thoughts like I thought you wanted. Sorry I didn’t agree this time but we agree a lot of times. Be well. x
@theworldofrsb
@theworldofrsb Жыл бұрын
PS: Didn’t say your videos sucked or that you were stupid. I just feel like I’m touching water that’s scalding hot and you’re saying it’s ice cold. I just find it interesting. Making arguments for my pov doesn’t mean your videos suck or that you’re stupid.
@marcoantoniomoreira413
@marcoantoniomoreira413 Жыл бұрын
@@theworldofrsband Scream 2 had also a lot of sillyness and nonsense moments. Randy had a crew blasting the speakers while he was getting stabbed to death in a news van. After sidney kills the ghostfaces she rides into peace alone right after losing her best friend and traumatically having her boyfriend getting killed in front of her. And don’t get me started on that whole caffeteria scene. Also ms loomis revenge doesnt make sense. She abandoned her son in the 1st place.
@theworldofrsb
@theworldofrsb Жыл бұрын
@@marcoantoniomoreira413 Those weren’t Randy’s friends. They were just random people playing music which happens all the time, especially on boomboxes in the 90s before people had music on their phones. And Sidney was hardly in peace. She was in shock / wanted to be alone / didn’t know who to trust / didn’t know what to do next, which led to her isolating herself in the next movie.
@Bluebox87
@Bluebox87 Жыл бұрын
Accusing Scream of copying itself is kind of silly. That said, it's definitely its blueprint. Sadly, Scream 2 is superior in every way.
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror
@KillJoyJakeLovesHorror Жыл бұрын
you offered no counterpoints to mine tho? i’ll retort by saying “scream vi is superior in every way”
@outlawssweetheart
@outlawssweetheart Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was quite similar, but I'd say the same thing about Scream 5 in comparison to Scream 1. However, when it comes to motive (the most obvious similarity), I actually feel the hurt coming from the Kirsches (or whatever their last name is 😭); they actually seemed genuinely upset, they were all on the verge of crying, whereas Nancy Loomis (to me) just seemed angry and crazed. I don't get a feeling that she's actually hurt by losing her son, though the fact that she abandoned him surely has something to do with that; but it's mostly just the way she acted (or didn't act). She didn't seem sad about Billy's death at all.
@erickh82082
@erickh82082 Жыл бұрын
Carbon copy, they ran out of ideas !!!!!
@Cobratruth
@Cobratruth Жыл бұрын
Not really. The original motive was supposed to be Ghostface trying to get justice for wrongdoers (which would’ve been WAYYY better) but that got leaked so they changed it
@Logan-dn6uv
@Logan-dn6uv Жыл бұрын
Scream 6 is bad sorry
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