This is in reply to mostly TikTok comments, you all on KZfaq seem to be more involved in FNAF theories haha! Scott Cawthon himself also said MatPat was correct about the 1983 VS 1987 stuff and a less known fact is that the "87" in the source code was actually changed to an "83" only a few days before release :)

I think markiplier is allways going to be the icon of the bite of 87

Imagine when we finally get to see the bite of 87 mark is like "WAS THAT THE BITE OF 83?"

A key difference was that the subject of the bite of 87 lived, as stated by phone guy

Aditional info, even scott himself confirmed that the fnaf 4 bite was the bite of 83 and NOT 87

My theory is that the mangle is the one who caused the bite of 87, either a child, or the security guard

Its amazing how freddy fazbear pizzeria stays open despite multiple incidents of the animatronics biting people

Also another little tidbit is that phone guy says that the bite 87 took out the frontal lobe and the victim survived. The crying child however did not survive and fredbear crushed the whole skull.

I used to think that the 1983 on Fredbear & Friends was just the copyright date and not when it aired (still think it makes more sense) but Fredbear's still had to shut down before FNAF 2. Phone guy said Fredbear's was already closed in FNAF 2, which takes place in 1987, so if both places got shut down they'd be called the Bites of '87. Plus the crying child didn't survive but the '87 victim did

Ok I’m honestly surprised how many people are still confused about the two bites, I thought this was cleared up years ago

"The bite that happened 4 years after the other bite is a completely different bite."

Mangle caused the bite of 87' biting Jeremys frontal lobe

I like to think the community made a big deal about the bite of 87 as a huge lore question but in reality scott just included it in the first game as a bit of funny banter about how little the fazbear company cares about safety

The bite of '87 was caused by Mangle. When Mangle is in a camera, you can hear a phone call between a 911 operator and a cop, and the word "frontal lobe" can be heard. Another theory that suggests that Mangle caused the bite of '87 was that in his/her jumpscare, he/she bites the forehead of the player, where the frontal lobe is located.

Somebody should start a petition for Markiplier to put on his old blue t-shirt and cut his hair and recreate this historic event by saying "WAS THAT THE BITE OF '83?!"

Goes to bed: Wakes up as crying children in 1983 Fredbear : finally

I always consider the 87 bite to take place in FNAF 2, and to likely have been done by Mangle (jumpscare). Less likely, but possibly even Foxy.

there is always gonna be that one person: "no no no you see fnaf 4 is the bite of 87 because the year is 1987"

FNAF LORE- (Some of it) Bite of 83: Caused by Fredbear Bite of 87: Caused by Mangle The original 6 missing children: Caused by William afton Death of Elizabeth Afton: Caused by circus baby The Scooper: Caused by Ennerd Death of William afton: Caused by the spirits of the 6 missing children The 6 missing children: Charlie(The Puppet), Cassidy(Golden Freddy), Gabriel(Freddy), Jeremy(Bonnie), Susie(Chica),and Fritz(Foxy) Ms Afton: unknown/non canon character The four bullies: Micheal Afton(Foxy Mask), Jacob(Bonnie Mask), Anissa(Chica Mask), Wilson(Freddy Mask). They were the ones that basically put Evan Afton/Chris/The crying child inside of Fredbear’s mouth, and Evan was killed by is brother Micheal Afton(Foxy mask), but they didn’t know that that was gonna happen, and it was an accident Elizabeth was the first one dead in the family, followed by Evan, then William goes on a killing spree, William dies by spring lock malfunction, years later, Micheal dies from Ennerd who used circus baby’s voice to lore Micheal into the scooping room, then ennerd goes inside Micheal’s body to escape the pizzeria, then ennerd gets out of Michael’s body and goes in a sewer drain, magically Micheal is still alive and is a walking corpse. After all of this Micheal goes to find is father William afton and during this Henry who is Charlie’s father/ William afton’s ex coworker, traps is daughter who is the puppet, into lefty so he could set the pizzeria on fire and set her free and the rest free, William afton is Scraptrap at this time and gets stuck in the fire, and burns to death (but he survives, ofc 🙄) Micheal also gets stuck in the fire so does Elizabeth, and Charlie(Elizabeth is ScrapBaby), the three are set free and are now at peace, so is Evan Afton who joins them, I think that Henry also dies in the fire 🤔 idk….but William afton is the only one suffering now, after this Cassidy makes William suffer even more and sends William afton into “hell” and makes him go through EVERYTHING (seeing his children’s deaths again, having to survive ALL of the animatronics over and over again) like Cassidy was making him SUFFER on what he did, but then William escapes the torture, makes a cult, Vanny enters into the picture, then Security Breach and all of that, but I know WAY more but I’m not gonna continue cause this is already long enough BUT YOUR WELCOME 😁👍

The Bite of 83 was sad imo. From what I've heard, the crying child was Michael's younger brother (a.k.a William Afton's youngest because his daughter dead) and he was bullying him to make sure he stayed away from the animatronics since William didn't want him to die to Circus Baby or one of them (for reference, William's daughter was stubborn and was with Circus Baby alone and then got snatched up)

The person that was bite in 87’ actually survived surprisingly enough.

"the perfect loop doesn't exsi-"

And i think what adds a bit to this theory is that they mention the bite of 87 not 83 because the bite of 83 was reliable on the bullies when the bite of 87 was purely the animatronics itself

the primary difference between 83 and 87 is that the victim survived the bite of 87, it just didn't have a frontal lobe. this was stated by the phone guy in the first game on the very first night.

bite of 83' = fredbear/ bite of 87' = mangle

Thank you for explaining I was kinda confused

It’s also obvious it was the bite of 83 cuz they are the original animatronics, fredbear and spring Bonnie, then the rest came shortly after

Fredbear just wanted a snack

Thank you I see so many people get this wrong and it hurts my soul😢

It would be awesome to see the *REAL* bite of 87 in the fnaf movie

Was that The Bite of 87

I thought this was common knowledge by now, then again I’ve been on the train since the start

I already knew this but thank for reminding me

Amazing channel. Keep it up!

Actually fnaf 4's designs make it obvious that the bite takes place before 1987, freddy's headshape match's with wither freddy and not og freddy, however since nightmare bonnie has his face, its before 1987, but also that means the crying child died in fredbear and friends and not in fredbears family diner, and that the reopening is of fredbear and friends

Did you know? Jeremy survived the bite of 87? Phone guy says in fnaf 1 that a person can survive without its frontial lobe

Best loop video ever

love the fact that you included markiplier ^^

The bite of 87 was happened in fnaf 2 when mangle bitten previous nightguard

And remember phone guy mentioned that the victim survived and was bitten in the forehead unlike crying child, bite victim, Evan, Chris, Joseph, Garret, kenny damn he has a lot of names

It is the bite of 87 AND the bite of the 83. Scott retconed everything that happened in 1987, now it happens in 1983 but they are the same events. It's exactly like 1987 never happened and 1983 was the current date back in fnaf 2.

And the mangle jumpscare bites your frontal lobe, as to the bite of 87’

imagine CC is just watching the show a few years later throwing everything completely off

I still think Markiplier made FNAF 4 better.

Fredbear filled his entire hunger bar when he ate that kids head 💀

Yeah and the bite of 87 was mangle biting off Jeremy’s frontal lobe.

knowing phone guy said that the bite of 87 was the reason why the animatronics aren't allowed to move around during the daytime in FNAF 1, I thought this would be more common knowledge, since fredbear was just standing on stage.

THANK YOU FOR CLEANING THIS UP OMG i keep telling people that they are NOT the same bite but they don't listen

Bite of 87 just slaps harder

Goes to bed: Wakes up in fnaf 2 and sees mangle in 1987 Me: finally I get to see my forehead gone

When u put year 1987 on custom u get easter egg golden freddy saying "its me"

This is actually really cool and helpful but Ive gotten so into the habit of saying ‘Bite Of ‘87’ and even putting that in my drawing i dont think ill ever get it right

the bite of 87 was a security guard getting his frontal lobe bitten off by mangle

One man almost changed the lore

That year on tv is just when the cartoon was made

The bite of 1987 is when a victim's frontal lobe got bitten off by the Mangle.

I can't remember exactly what it was, but the reason that date started being used as evidence was because of some major contradiction in the timeline after some of the future games. Of course, this was almost certainly originally the bite of 87, but Scott changed or just plain contradicted it after he decided to continue making fnaf games after fnaf 4

Imagine if Scott gave it to us like a straight line and we just made a big deal out of it

Oh I miss the days when the debate of Bite of '87 vs Bite of '83 was the hottest debate in the FNAF community

I remember people starting wars about how foxy must have done the bite of 87 in 2014 weird looking back now

Bro is immersed

Still another reasons that debunks the “Fredbear did the Bite of 87” thing is that on Night 5 (while Jermey Fitzgerald still was a night guard) Phone Guy mentioned that Fredbear’s Family Diner had been closed down for years, which since the one in FNaF 4 is Fredbear’s Family Diner that Fredbear did the Bite of 83, which it can’t work the other way around if Fredbear’s Family Diner had been closed down for years (and with FNaF 4 showing the Bite of 83 incident being four years prior to the Bite of 87 one), and that BV had his whole head chomped by Fredbear and later met his demise in the hospital (because of the flatline) while whoever had got bitten in the Bite of 87 incident not only survived, but also lost their own frontal lobe.

The sad thing is that after he died he was still being haunted by the nightmare animatronics which sucks

the bite of 87 was a security gaurd who got bit in the head by one of the animatronics.

Bro, FNAF lore did Jeremy so dirty.

Still can't believe people dont have this BASIC knowledge...

Was that The bite of 87!!!!!!

Fredbear incident will always be the bite of 87 in my heart

*Was that the bite of 87?!*

The bite of 87 just rolls of the tongue better.

Still doesn’t mean that the bite of 83 wasn’t one of gamings biggest “fuck you” moments.

it was also made clear in sister location, where the password to secret cameras in evan's room was "1983"

I swear if im at the FNaF movie and some kid yells out, "WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87" i will literally make the Bite of 2023 that kid

The teasers and source codes definitely would confirm it but maybe Scott originally intended for this to be the bite of 87 but then change it up or something but tv text isn’t enough to confirm it

That's a flawless loop. Bravo.

Even markiplier was confused😂

The bite of 87 is mangle

If we see the bite of 87 in one of the movies mark better be playing Jeremy 💀

Imo the bite of 83 is when the lore started to really become a dick measuring contest between Scott and Matpat to see who could make it as convoluted as possible

The Fazchild being put in Fredbear's Fazmouth caused an Fazciddent!

The bite of 87 happened on the sixth day of FNAF 2 when they closed Freddy fazbears down

like phone guy said “kids and children couldn’t keep their hands off mangle” so maybe she was bite of 87

The fact that this needs to be explained is frankly depressing…

simple, bite of 87, mangle, bite of 83, fredbear

The bullet of 45

Bite of 83 : 1983 Bite of 87 : 1987 I was confused with my discord gc said they were the same-

The TV displaying the date of 1983 is an evidence towards fnaf 4 taking place in 1983 because it could just be a re-run that aired during 1987.

The child died in the bite of 83 But the child in the bite of 87 survived.

I have always wondered if the Fandom has taken that 1983 bug way too seriously. What if that was just a rerun of the Fredbear and Friends show?

Who cares abt its 1983 or 1987 we all just miss the time when markplier said "WAS THAT THE BITE OF 87?! "

By the way, in ultimate custom night nightmare, Fred bear says let me put you back together. He also said that in Fnaf four so his voice lines in ultimate custom night nightmare, Fred bear was talking about the crying child.

Bite of 83=FredbearXEvan Bite of 87=MangleXJeremy Fizgerald

Makes sense because the minigames of Fnaf 4 had Fredbear's Family Dinner as the games restaurant location, the location that the Phone Guy recorded as "closed down for several years" in one of the night phases phone call in Fnaf 2 and we know Fnaf 2 is set in 1987.

"My whole world is turned upside down, this doesn't make any sense!"

Yes finally 83 was the crying child but 87 was Fitz Gerald

“Was that the bite of 87?!” -markiplyr

It's not the bite of 83 it's the bite of 87

Congrats to all who is early and found this comment 🏅

Dude, the 1983 mark could just be when the show was made, a 1983 show playing in 1987

in 1987, the crying child had his birthday, but the best present he got was a chomp to the head, causing his death, we know it is 1987 because in the game files and teasers it is HEAVILY implied that this was going to be the big reveal of the bite of 87, and the hinting goes way back to the first game, where there are two dismantled animatronics, foxy and yellow bear, this is where people could say its foxy because he is out of order and has a wonky jaw, but to that I say, if such a tragic event happened, (a death seen by many with the cause of death being due to the machines being dangerous), they would completely dismantle the death machine, leading us to yellow bear, who has there working metal moving parts completely removed and hidden away in the parts and service, where they are trying to fix it on the work table in the day, which is why we see endo on the desk in our nightshift, now that means yellow bear probably caused the bite, and if you want more evidence then when you play 1987 in the custom night you get bitten by yellow bear so cmon he must have, so anyway, in fnaf 4 we see the bite and the biter is fredbear, who has a purple bowtie and hat as-well as eyes, and what do I say to that? the purple into black is due to shadows, and the eyes are on the endo still, now how do we know this wasnt another bite with the same animatronic, and well we know there was only one bite, because there is only one bite report and we can see the supposed bite of 83 has lots of witnesses, so we know there was only one, and well the only one we officially have heard of is the bite of 87, but I have more evidence, in the game files of when the 83 bite happened there are many references to 87, but I will listen to the other side, so what are they saying? There is a date of 1983 on the tv…. but that could just be coppy write and probably is. SO THERE YOU HAVE IT the only bite that happened was from yellow bear in 1987