Watch: Heated Exchange between IEC representative Adv Ngcukaitobi & Justice Theron :MK Party Vs IEC

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@sheltonsithole7857 27 күн бұрын

Whatever the case ,I just love listening to Advocate Ngcukaitobi.

@jackjones1491 Ай бұрын

The dude is spot on. The Constitution Court by granting direct access to Zuma was the author of the script that denied Zuma the right to appeal. As the Apex Court, they ipso facto brought finality to the matter.

@bonganithembinkosi1421 Ай бұрын

Theron judge you are perfect

@gideonmthembu8693 Ай бұрын

Its an excellent debate to both. Tough questions and probes from JT and so smart feedback from the Thembeka. The African boy is top shelf material

@mokubung Ай бұрын

And so the Judgement quietens all the noise we hear around here

@BonganiGama-vw1gp Ай бұрын

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

@ndipiwegobodo6254 Ай бұрын

Yes😅@@mokubung

@sibongilegodana3512 Ай бұрын

Heading is misleading, there is no heated exchange here. It is just the fact-finding exercise to find the common ground of judicial departure.

@galafanimasilela8863 22 күн бұрын

"Let me finish my question please" . "My apologies"

@mandlenkosishabalala8890 Ай бұрын

It was a very robust deliberations by both Advocate Ngcukaitobi and Judge Theron.

@austerepotato3159 Ай бұрын

No, Ng was rude; unprofessional

@gogomantabenionline2196 4 күн бұрын

I like this argument too and I understand both of them unfortunately for justice Theron in the Zuma contept of court case she descended and that did not have an impact on the precedent and the constitutional court now is bound by that emotional judgment they gave and that is what adv gcukaitobi is holding them to and he is correct 😂😂😂

@mangalisokhonza660 Ай бұрын

But much respect to both these great legal minds

@bent.khobotlo4165 Ай бұрын

This debate was interesting...say what you like, Ngcukaitobi's is smart.

@snayezulu7251 Ай бұрын

He’s brilliant⭐️.

@beast9052 Ай бұрын

He destroyed her

@Chillimane Ай бұрын

The case is not even about his IQ.

@trustmub1 Ай бұрын

I thought I was alone on this one. The guy is good.

@luyandamfuleni4437 Ай бұрын

Very smart he knows court make mistake and they must leave with it

@ThiyoNgcobo Ай бұрын

Thank u Justice Theron

@lindanimlena1662 Ай бұрын

The respect that they give to each other is on another level

@ayandmangena4525 Ай бұрын

Judge Theron, God bless u🎉

@TheBonginkosi Ай бұрын

Ey kufundiwe la.

@L_L350 Ай бұрын

What I am getting from Justice T a that the constitutional court should not have entertained Zondos application in the first place as they did not have penal rights. They simply shouldn’t have handed unappealable sentences.

@mthokozisilanga4497 Ай бұрын

Exactly, I was shocked when I heard that Zondo used the Concourt for a matter that needed to be dealt with in the magistrate court.

@theonlynape Ай бұрын

Too late, majority rulling disagreed with Justice T, already, and she reopening the initial trial. That's why SC is irritated

@esilevinichronicles4269 Ай бұрын

@@theonlynapeYes, the matter was addressed. This being the apex court with the authority of finality. She is undermining original constitutional jurisdiction of their court thus intending to undermine the body of jurisprudence which they are part of.

@ossborn100 Ай бұрын

@@esilevinichronicles4269It is her own opinion of the law no one is undermine

@tshepometsi6607 Ай бұрын

@@theonlynape he should just maintain calmness and persistantly batress his point. If you've observed, judges don't behave like magistrates, except a few like Ratha.

@petrusesterhuyzen2087 Ай бұрын

Those who drew up the constitution had to consider the applicable law at the time of compilation. As she said, no individual rights have been denied. Exactly what he is stating, zuma's rights have not been denied.

@innocentngcobo6072 Ай бұрын

His right to appeal was denied😂😂

@ezaius2011 Ай бұрын

Emotions are not the reason one loses a legal argument.

@GM-yq7cw 20 күн бұрын

Judge T is standing up for every South African. The majority made a judgement greatly influenced by political expediency. The law cannot be static or arbitrary, certain issues or judgments must be rehashed at every opportunity. Judge T may not have the legal majority on her side but she has the moral high ground. She is able to see the danger in the previous judgement for future litigants. Her question on whether there is any other case Adv T and team can hang their case on is very telling of the atmosphere prevailing in the Zondo/ Zuma proceedings.

@vdlamini380 Күн бұрын

Loved her strength. The majority judgment will forever haunt the CC. History will judge us...

@pierrevanryneveldtutorcenter Ай бұрын

Good argument between the two

@tshepangrakalemakou7884 Ай бұрын

Very balanced facts💯

@lindiwesibanyoni1029 Ай бұрын

I give my sister Justice Theron flowers and non-alcoholic red 🍷. Justice Theron my school Sisi Kampempe, Zondo and Umakoti WaseStellenbosch. Thembeka is a hired attorney for IEC but he has found his match in Justice Theron. I know for the fact that Adv Mpofu is trashing all the legal platform and assernal thrown to uBaba.

@jamesfosi7018 27 күн бұрын

Justice Theron is a great Judge

@fazludinsufeyan5748 Ай бұрын

This is awesome. Justice T wrote minority judgment previously. She cannot now sit and keep quiet. This is pure difference in opinion in the viewpoint and interpretation of the individual justice/s. . Adv T could have toned down without having to have been told by the DCJ. But this is gr8 stuff. 🤟

@user-wj8vz7bo5c Ай бұрын

I love you Justice T❤

@victorndlela8208 Ай бұрын

Justices Theron knows her job

@SmisoMadanga Ай бұрын

Too much 🙌🙌

@mxobhungane143 Ай бұрын

But she's surrounded by the Hyenas, who protecting individual interests allegedly, i don't see her winning 🤔

@sibongisenimkhulise3178 Ай бұрын

Where there are two conflicting provisions in the constitution, both provisions must be given full effect.

@kwandiweyekela3346 Ай бұрын

that provision is self defeating and begs for further interrogation. If one provision says to forfeit a right to appeal and one confirms the right appeal, they cant both be given full effect on the very basis of contradiction

@sibusisonkosi3469 Ай бұрын

According to this advocate the judges of CC have a right to change the constitution. Every accused person has a right of appeal finish and klaar

@zwanemduduzi8306 Ай бұрын

Judge Theron , I like her way of probing answers

@gogomantabenionline2196 4 күн бұрын

She might be the next chief justice after Maya❤

@SummerEM Ай бұрын

Thank you Judge Theron, God help you in your career.

@mvubu6823 Ай бұрын

She's so hopelessly wrong, it's not even funny. She lost her argument twice before

@The_Truth777 Ай бұрын

Advocates are usually this frustrated when they know it’s not a win.

@CharlieMhlongo Ай бұрын

This was not necessary though, the Judge does not want to let it go,

@Heavenly_Killua1million 27 күн бұрын

She is spot on

@Sibusisonkumane Ай бұрын

Bekumnandi kule court because we already discussed that and it's binding

@siphoshezi502 Ай бұрын

Ngcukayithobi is a grinding stone

@pilaninkomozepi2961 Ай бұрын

He is way too smart. Justice Theron is continuing with her arguments from the initial case where she made the minority judgement.

@user-gu8ig8dv6m Ай бұрын

Some people are here to praise nonsense

@mandlajezile9938 Ай бұрын

Was Justice Theron trying to get the Adv. to ignore the ruling the Con-court had made re Zuma as though it doesnʼt hold any significance?? Strange indeed and excellent work by Adv. Ngcukaitobi

@lukashango6524 Ай бұрын

The court will find that section 47 exclude Zuma sentence which was imposed without the option of appeal😮

@zuzemoyo7696 Ай бұрын

Advocate Ngcukaitobi disingenuous and he knows it. Denial of RIGHTS not unlawful ????. SHAME on Ngcukaitobi.

@Livermore007 Ай бұрын

In a profound ruling that resonates deeply with the complex interplay between faith and law, a High Court judge was summoned at midnight to make a pivotal decision. A father, guided by his religious convictions, had asserted his right to refuse a life-saving blood transfusion for his dying daughter. The judge, weighing the principles of legal ethics against personal beliefs, overturned this religious assertion, thereby safeguarding the young girl's right to life. This case underscores the critical importance of allowing legal professionals to operate within their realm of expertise, free from the sway of personal emotions. Things armchair critics knows nothing about.

@innocentngcobo6072 Ай бұрын

I like Adv Tembeka Ngcukaitobi but I don't agree with him on this one😂....he's wrong!

@IM_PUNTER Ай бұрын

😅@@Livermore007

@nandivanqa-mgijima646 Ай бұрын

My very first time to listen to both great minds Ngcukaithobi and Mpofu, i painfully say that Ngcukaitobi isn't substituting enough his arguments. It seems his defense arguments are driven by emotions.

@ThenjiweRosemaryNsindane Ай бұрын

❤❤❤❤❤❤

@paulkruger433 Күн бұрын

Still made it to the ICJ to represent South Africa. He is the only Advocate to get Senior counsel (SC) after being an advocate for 8 years (Record breaker) Dali Mpofu, I think he is the one emotional check his cases

@danielmostage7675 Ай бұрын

I already see minority judgement through Justice Theron

@tshepometsi6607 Ай бұрын

The majority are not always necessarily correct, though their decision becomes the binding.

@ezaius2011 Ай бұрын

Ngcukaitobi is fearless.

@mlisto7367 Ай бұрын

He isn't intimidated

@simbawendall Ай бұрын

But is empty in his arguments

@melz7038 26 күн бұрын

Advocate T is in violation of his legal position.... It is a conflict of interest for him to be arguing this case!!!!

@maymgidi9372 Ай бұрын

It i a big shame for some people to be the graduates of the law but not able to submit constructive points in Court

@user-my5vy2uh7y Ай бұрын

Adv evades answer on alternative authority supporting his contention

@gilbertmadondo2847 26 күн бұрын

Thembeka is legendary, the judge is caught up in her beef from the last sitting.

@madzevushabalala6605 Ай бұрын

GOD and ancestors will assist on what they do to Him JGZ

@SenzaKwenzeke-ic5rs Ай бұрын

Adv. Ngcuka mastered English 🎉

@innocentngcobo6072 Ай бұрын

Senza Kwenzeke 😂😂

@pilaninkomozepi2961 Ай бұрын

Too much

@tshepometsi6607 Ай бұрын

Very true

@mayormsuthu1465 Ай бұрын

You guys are so obsessed with English as if it puts food on your table. In this case how does mastering his English benefit him,cos am sure that even the most uneducated person in that room can speak a bad English but make a valid point of communication.

@gaobakwebakang2942 Ай бұрын

Africans are doing well

@petrusesterhuyzen2087 Ай бұрын

Does he not understand what is going on?

@malefetsanemofokeng3093 Ай бұрын

Great leadership DCJ

@afriminatidedeejay5237 Ай бұрын

Judge Theron is not disputing a sentence was passed by the CC and that its binding. She is merely interrogating the fact given so the judgement was passed certain aspects of it was overlooked and will alway come back to bite the law and its interpreters. Rights engraved in the constitution were overlooked/violated and this needs to be corrected 😂 there is no escaping it

@caughtontape5829 Ай бұрын

My biggest worry is that Zuma is 1 foot in the grave and out of expediency the CC Judges forgot their judgements are binding on future judgements where Zuma wont be present. The Zuma conviction elevated the CC Judges above the Constitution and their hate, pride and myopia is not allowing them to right their wrongs to cure future constitutional crises.

@afriminatidedeejay5237 Ай бұрын

@@caughtontape5829 wonderfully said!

@CaptainGeneral11 Ай бұрын

The Judge is asking a question her own court has already ruled on. I don't get whre she's driving at

@siphosakhemajola9136 Ай бұрын

Yes she's trying to show that a lower court/ electro court was right because they were wrong.

@Clemiristo Ай бұрын

@@siphosakhemajola9136 plus she supported a minority judgement against the jailing

@jabuxaba9777 Ай бұрын

She's driving at exposing the JUSTICE FLAWED law provision's, applicable discretionary (through majority rule) instead of argument’s merits and demerits, something that leaves us with different rules for different people before our courts. Differing rules that premise our faith as citizens before the courts on "majority" discretion than on probabilities beyond reasonability of doubt. This bothers on whether anyone else will ever be allowed to take a “contempt” (not an interpretation ambiguity) case straight to constitutional court in this land, except for Zondo. This might be besides the point on the current case, given the previous judgement; But, that previous judgement is riddled with contradictions that are going to haunt the CC for decades and centuries to come. As a stupid precedence was effected because of PERSONAL SCORES TO SETTLE AGAINST A PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL BY THOSE WHO REGARD THEMSELVES AS THE GUARDIANS OF THE “SYSTEM”.

@kizitoncube2484 Ай бұрын

Ncukaitobi is deliberately dodging and steering clear from a direct response .He keeps referring to the Ccurts ruling, and he dithers and dives and neglects to answer a basic pointed questions as he knows very well the Ccourts ruling was malicious and neglected fundamental law prescripts

@phumlanishezi8274 Ай бұрын

Tembeka will loose this appeal, which is good for us as MK.You can not be forcing judges to make a decision that suit you.

@waltervetri2476 Ай бұрын

Correct ,the Constitution trumps all other laws .

@sbuzondizondi8979 Ай бұрын

Good debate by both jurists but the decision of the Constitutional Court is binding. Unfortunately the Constitutional court was not supposed to entertain Justice Zondo's application for contempt as a court of first instance . They were supposed to approach the high court so as to give effect to the appeal procedure.

@mkhululikama8137 Ай бұрын

I also have the same view and that commissions should be preside by Judges of High Court or SÇA so that the person can have opportunity to appeal.

@BaneleMancoba Ай бұрын

Mr zuma was treated unfair 😢

@josebentontenvo1452 19 күн бұрын

She's has no case, it does not make sense what she says...! What type of judge is that? 🤔

@user-lg6fw7wh1j Ай бұрын

Judge Theron please replace Ratha van Witness in the Senzo Meyiwa trail

@w-s-bw-s-b9340 Ай бұрын

Why?

@GearheadGarageTvBuilditback Ай бұрын

It is interesting that the court's imposition or this contempt of court only applies to Mr Zuma not Mr Koos Bekker when he refused to come to the commission. Sebasabani abelungu? Or they gave the judges something as well that they impose the same sanctions that are imposed on us blacks if that's the case then this law thing is unconstitutional

@mxobhungane143 Ай бұрын

Even the late apartheid president P Botha he raised in public that he won't attend stupid commission.

@khaltsharivist365 Ай бұрын

Koos Bekker was not summoned by the State capture Commission if he had then you will have a valid argument, Botha was found guilty by Magistrate Court & won on appeal at the High Court on on technical grounds.

@DickMathe Ай бұрын

@@khaltsharivist365 Someone who clearly reads and doesn't listen to gossip ...

@thuthukanicele4464 Ай бұрын

This guy is arguing a losing battle

@waltervetri2476 Ай бұрын

Historical interpretation is equally important in deciding a case,Sir .See Salmond on interpretation .

@khathi92 Ай бұрын

Zuma laws are coming back to bite them 🎉🎉🎉. Ngcukaitobi is emotional 😅

@siphociliza2436 Ай бұрын

Apply the law equally to everyone it does not matter if is the majority judgement . How come the majority judgement is not tested to see if its within the law...this majority rule is not good when not tested against the law,even in the parliament its being misused we have seen this many times.

@Heavenly_Killua1million 27 күн бұрын

Justice Theron and Jaftha not captured

@mduduzithabede1999 Ай бұрын

I felt like she disrespected the majority judgment in the Zuma case

@mkhululikama8137 Ай бұрын

She really did, to me seemingly is trying to correct the previous judgement made by the majority which she was not in agreement.

@lindanimlena1662 Ай бұрын

I like how she folded her hands after that killer point on 6:55

@wilsonmetsing2243 Ай бұрын

Justice Theron should be the Deputy Chief Justice

@Forssman64 Ай бұрын

She must be dying g to hit him with the constitution book to wake him up - did he pass his degree with 30% too?

@thulanihlatshwayo4383 22 күн бұрын

This debate is clear, the constitutional Court erred in Zumas judgement and if not rectified legislatively the highest court in the land is setting or has set a bad precedent.

@imasinnerwholovesGod Ай бұрын

Justice Theron, God is with u and may u be blessed beyond, I see God in you

@BaneleMancoba Ай бұрын

My great advocate is becoming arrogant 🙄

@lungam9374 Ай бұрын

Stupid avocado 🥑

@user-uh6ed2id5i Ай бұрын

What rubbish. Both good respectable submissions.

@ericmolefese871 Ай бұрын

But when another judge and court has decided, and we refer to that judgement, we did our job and we are right, and we have a court judgement to back it up. So what are we going to do about that judgement? Act as if it is not there? Don't we refer to judgements in the South African law? If it was wrong, who is to blame? The advocate?

@siyabongakunene5052 27 күн бұрын

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

@42phaedrus 26 күн бұрын

Reyno de Beer's video on his Liberty Fighters channel provides valuable background and insight into this important case.

@elvinnybonjovi10 Ай бұрын

There's nothing heated about this exchange. All I hear is a robust and respectful debate between two respected lawyers.

@vdlamini380 Күн бұрын

Mistakes were made the majority judgment

@user-my5vy2uh7y Ай бұрын

Tension in the Court room

@galafanimasilela8863 22 күн бұрын

Ngqukaitobi is highly emotional. Had to be actually told to tone down by dcj😮

@jack69457 Ай бұрын

Gcukaithobi got it, she's merely giving clarity.

@lindanimlena1662 Ай бұрын

Adv Thembeka is fighting a loosing battle but his hopes are pinned in J Theron making a small error in enterpreting the constitutional laws which is highly unlikely though.

@segopaneseroka3132 Ай бұрын

14:44 14:52 Concourt is our APEX court.To which forum in SA would the so called appeal would have been heard??

@davidntimba2915 Ай бұрын

Then the Constitutional Court shouldn't have passed a sentence in this regard, but should have instead referred their contempt ruling to the High Court (which has sentencing powers)to decide on the sentence for the contempt of the Constitutional Court.

@thusenkanjeni9365 Ай бұрын

Bravo adv Ngcukatoibi, student of law, no howling n threaning judges but sterm firm in principle of law, period, so ppl must not be irritable with facts of the law

@Godswillmpofu Ай бұрын

Think again

@ntokozotyapile2679 Ай бұрын

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@ntombifuthisenanela2308 Ай бұрын

This man is so intelligent ✊🏾✊🏾

@pilaninkomozepi2961 Ай бұрын

Brilliant advocate

@tshepometsi6607 Ай бұрын

He is intelligent, but who is " irritable with facts of the law" ?

@jaymuller6004 Ай бұрын

It seems like Ngcukaitobi and Mpofu are the top 2 lawyers in South Africa............... And they have been debating every case in the courts

@SimphiweNgcece Ай бұрын

They are the most politically connected.

@user-qf4hy6os4s Ай бұрын

The 2 we can not match Ngcukaithobi is top notch

@bongumusamanqele154 Ай бұрын

Ngcukaitobi is arrogant and disrespectful even when he doesn't know the unswer, he would unswer what was not asked and arrogantly so.

@user-fc1vs6ve6q Ай бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤞

@greggclarke4080 28 күн бұрын

The Advocate is a BRILLIANT LEGAL MIND and this Judge is dodgy.

@jabulaniradebe2995 Ай бұрын

Zondo was quick to sentence Zuma but he didn't give him a chance to appeal,.,..why didn't they sentence those who refused to go give evidence in the T.R.C what has changed are there Zuma laws in this country.now i believe that Zuma is dieing for all blacks in this country trying to protect it against the puppet controlling the state.... God is on hour side rise Africa rise it's now or never.we love you baba uzama

@petrusesterhuyzen2087 Ай бұрын

To seperate cases, one was voluntary but zuma was being investigated as part of the corruption & fraud in which he was involved

@petrusesterhuyzen2087 Ай бұрын

The constitution provides the denial of appeal! Yet there is a right to direct access - in other words mr zuma could access the concourt directly! Zuma is appealing which has been denied. Which God is on your side? Maybe you should read the bible if you truely believe in the Lord God Almighty, it is repeatedly said God abhors sin which includes lies, deceit, corruption, etc. Why do u think God repeatedly turned away from israel since coming out of egypt, because of sin, idol worship and serving other gods, pagan gods

@pilaninkomozepi2961 Ай бұрын

Zondo did not sentence Zuma

@mrmthethwa7347 Ай бұрын

@@petrusesterhuyzen2087 What da fuck! 'involved'?

@ignatiouschikurahove7239 Ай бұрын

God is not part of this circus, maybe y ou mean gods not God the creator of heaven and earth. He hate sin (fornicators, thieves, rapists, etc)

@42phaedrus 25 күн бұрын

Where does the concourt get the power of penal jurisdiction to impose an original sentence? That is the crux. It must not be so. Concourt may do nothing but interpret and refer back to lower court.

@nontuthuzelombo1923 Ай бұрын

Ngcukayithobi does n't want to answer difficult questions .He becomes emotional and answer from the heart not from the brain .

@amoebaslatoe7925 24 күн бұрын

So glad Dali wasn't speaking there

@bongilemayaba2333 20 күн бұрын

If I was Ngcukaitobi I was going to be irritated by Judge Theron trying to re argue the same case where she and judge Madlanga had a minority judgement. Zuma was asked to do submissions to the Constitutional Court and he refused.

@Bless1able Ай бұрын

I think it was heated between the two....

@waltervetri2476 Ай бұрын

Is this a small claims court ??Vetri EC Komani .🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦🙏

@user-my5vy2uh7y Ай бұрын

Food for thought

@rebeccankwane4310 Ай бұрын

Ngcukaitobi is not backing down

@waltervetri2476 Ай бұрын

Not law,Mam ,the Constitution

@lawrenceletlhatlhe8525 Ай бұрын

Justice is asking one question Wich she was supposed to knw 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@tshepometsi6607 Ай бұрын

Sometimes the questioning doesn't necessarily imply that the person didn't know. It may be to just see if the other party has the same understanding or not, or whether they are other underlying views.

@mzdl2795 Ай бұрын

@@tshepometsi6607U 💯% right

@innocentngcobo6072 Ай бұрын

@tshepometsi6607 you're 100% right...😂😂😂😂😂

@ronaldadelacy6829 29 күн бұрын

There was no appeal to test the majority judgement. Judge Theron is correct to interrogate this advocate on the interpretations of the constitution and what the drafters meant.

@kulaninkombyane2452 22 күн бұрын

I wonder where they get such brains

@chiefer1325 Ай бұрын

Judge Theron grills...🙆🏾‍♂️💯

@webredline426 Ай бұрын

Robust debate here. However, I found the Advocate to be emotional, on more than one occasion leaning towards being disrespectful through the debate. His repeated raised tone of voice, dismissive responses, cutting CJ off whilst in the middle of her questions, evasion of giving a direct answer on two occasions has no place in a constitutional court of law. It might make for entertaining viewing but must be weighed in for future prospects. Justice Theron demonstrated composure as is expected by the calibre of a ConCourt Judge. She did her job so zero points to her but minus 1 point to the advocate.

@molidsin5734 Ай бұрын

The problem with this guy is that he hates Zuma

@SimphiweNgcece Ай бұрын

You guys and this nonsense of always assuming that Zuma is being hated by people who dissent to him is tiring.

@kamogelomphaketsane9752 Ай бұрын

You know nothing about the law that’s why

@phineasmakhani Ай бұрын

So Mpofu also hate IEC

@Tayma11June Ай бұрын

He is hired to do a job and you will be shocked one day when Zuma hires him. He will give his all to represent his client then.

@ignatiouschikurahove7239 Ай бұрын

Only unlearned fools will think like that, if you are representing your client you work on instruction. It's a battle of brains.

@waltervetri2476 Ай бұрын

Interpretation much begin from the "legal prism of the constitution ".

@goodbarbenie5477 Ай бұрын

Besides everything else... "Logic is The Handmaiden of Justice"... Finish and Klaar. There are no more if's and Butt's . End of story...😱..

@goodbarbenie5477 Ай бұрын

The Constitution was never Set Up for the Government to control the Behaviour of the citizens of South Africa. The Constitution was solely set up Ultimately to control the Behaviour of the Government of South Africa...😮. What use is a government to unconscious to pass laws. So as to once again pass laws again without being conscious or aware of what they are doing or trying to achieve. 😢😮😢.

@thusenkanjeni9365 Ай бұрын

Adv T, seem trying to be found pleasing the delinquency of the law, the way she pose her questions, that's my view though

@sandilethusi5604 Ай бұрын

Some judges are sober minded..... Justice Theron is doing a great job...... Whether a person is an alleged delinquent or not , his or her constitutional rights should be respected and protected. Everyone is equal before the law, there should be no Zuma law