Watch This Before You Buy The xTool F1!

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10 ай бұрын

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@creativehourglass1 10 ай бұрын

Great video. I just received mine. The black USB insert on the back is not for Wifi. Wifi is built into the machine. The little USB insert is a safety key, which when removed, will render the machine useless so others or children can't use it. It also comes with an extra safety key in the box.

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

I stand corrected. Thank you.

@DGLaserCraft 5 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, Ken. I've got the xtool D1 pro 40w and the M1 10w - you got me thinking about the F1 now.

@MoonpieCreations 4 ай бұрын

Hey the F1 is great to bring along to craft shows or other places. I'm cranking out slate coasters like crazy, lol

@WoodturningWithJohnMarro 10 ай бұрын

Nice review Ken. Thanks for sharing your thoughts

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@treggmichelleliebler399 6 ай бұрын

Great review, earned my sub. How long did it take to do those 3 coasters?

@MoonpieCreations 6 ай бұрын

Thanks. It took about 3 mins each.

@benjaminpastrana9662 8 ай бұрын

Thank you! First review that says what I wanted to know! The air purifier automatically starts and stops with the F1! Nobody mentioned such an important detail🙌

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

Glad I could help!

@dtork47 8 ай бұрын

Ken, very informative and thanks. Being a bowl turner myself wondering how it has worked out for you?

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

The laser is pretty great. Not using it for my bowls though. I have an ATEZR 35w for that.

@MarklTucson 10 ай бұрын

Good overview. Since the Midwave laser is 2 Watts, it appears they are using the same diode technology as they are using in their 1064 nm module for the D1 Pro.

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

Great info. Thanks

@shanehurst31 10 ай бұрын

Great video very informative thanks for sharing

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@user-np5dy8nk4k 8 ай бұрын

Can’t wait to get one. Won’t be till next year but as a pet store start up this is gonna be fun!

@MoonpieCreations 7 ай бұрын

It's fun for sure.

@slymatty 2 күн бұрын

Hey great video, is this detailed enough that I could use it to engrave on the face of a 6sided games dice? Thanks in advance

@alinay2048 8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for your suggestion. I think I'll get one. Do they have good customer service for issues? I am good at using complicated tools.

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

I have heard good and bad things. But normally when you send an email it works out better. I would suggest joining the official FB group and the unofficial one. Great info on both.

@Nimariel 6 ай бұрын

I’d love to see someone compare the pros and cons of the F1 vs the S1.

@CowsGoM3ow 6 ай бұрын

F1 is better for engraving/cutting small things and thin/delicate materials. Also faster batching. S1 can cut thicker material and heads are interchangable unlike the F1. 10x~ slower on small things but has optional passthrough, risers, etc. 2 different beasts

@alutacontinual 10 ай бұрын

Great review, just wondering about sound levels, i don't recall you mentioning it. cheers.

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

The fan can be heard, but not as bad as the other laser heads I have used.

@alutacontinual 10 ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your response. much appreciated. @@MoonpieCreations

@AndrewLaSane 2 ай бұрын

That price is a little ridiculous compared to what other comparable lasers go for

@MoonpieCreations 2 ай бұрын

When comparing lasers you have to compare apples to apples. It needs to be portable and have both an IR/Fiber laser and diode laser. It also needs to have have accessories. With that in mind the only comparable laser to the xTool F1 IMO is the Woodpecker 4. It runs on sale for $1799 normal price $1999. While the xTool F1 runs $1599 base price. There are several YT channels that have run head to head comparisons on those. The xTool F1 is faster, more precise and is easier to use for repeatable cuts. Although the WP4 does have a larger cutting area, it doesn't make up for the rice difference IMO. Now this is just what I have seen since I have never used one before. Now do I think the prices of these lasers are over the top....well yes and maybe these lasers aren't for hobbyist, but those prices will come down over time. I let a friend use my F1 for a craft show for there bike club in Florida last month. They pulled in a profit of over $1900 over 3 days, that's three times as much as any other show they have gone too. The F1 allowed them to engrave a lot faster and better than there Longer laser did. As soon as they got back they ordered a new F1 and they have also ordered an S1. What I am getting at is these machines are an investment in your business. You can make your money back on them. Again this is just my opinion.

@AndrewLaSane 2 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations oh I have no doubt that it will pay itself off. What I meant was that it seems like a big part of the price is for the form factor/portability and not for the power/capabilities of the machine itself? But I'm not an expert. Either way, not a criticism of your review

@AndrewLaSane 2 ай бұрын

As a hobbyist, I just bought the XTool D1 instead because it seems like a more versatile machine for making good quality things that are bigger than the F1 can fit (even if it does it slower)

@MoonpieCreations 2 ай бұрын

@@AndrewLaSane Yes the D1 is an excellent machine. I hope you enjoy it.

@johnhubbard6262 5 ай бұрын

WAIT! I restore a lot of older stuff, tools, guns, and knives where on the small parts especially you try to remove the rust without removing the character. Your plier's example looked like if you went a little lighter or faster you would have had almost 0 rust and full-on patina, that was awesome.

@MoonpieCreations 5 ай бұрын

That's awesome. I hope it can work well for you.

@photosbywalt7124 9 ай бұрын

The table limits the speed to 160 mms - There should be two modes: the current method using the table for the X axis. A mode that allows a galvo etch of the 4”x4” then automatically moves to the next position and allows a 4”x4” galvo etch. That way, each 4x4” etch or cut will happen at the up to the 4000mms which is the machine rated speed.

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

Good information, thanks.

@WaitWhat-jy9ck 9 ай бұрын

Awesome video Moonpie Creations. Have you tested the LaserPecker 4? I looked through your videos and didn't see it. I'd like your opinion on the comparison between the two of these machines.

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

LaserPecker asked me to review it, but never followed through on sending it to me. As for this machine, it is a fantastic laser. I have not stopped using it since I did this review.

@lamberthugh8316 2 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations What a joke. I mean the LP.

@avelkm 10 ай бұрын

Will it engrave on clear epoxy or epoxy with mica? Asking for pens. Want to switch from CO2

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

It will not engrave on clear acrylic or epoxy. But epoxy with mica? Depends on the colors I would think. There are some spectrums that an IR and diode just won't etch.

@BORICUACHANNEL 6 ай бұрын

AWESOME VIDEO MAN I WANT THIS NOW

@MoonpieCreations 6 ай бұрын

Thank you. I did screw one description. The little thumb drive piece I showed is a key not the WIFI. This is a fun and easy machine to use.

@kerrydaus1604 10 ай бұрын

Great video and honest review! Have you tried the F1 on brass? anodized aluminum? thanks!

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

I did it on copper, but not brass or Aluminum

@RobDuarte 5 ай бұрын

The bottle openers are anodized aluminum

@Lisaamyshook 5 ай бұрын

I bought the xTool D1 20W. Im try to find out if I can laser text into paper wedding cocktail napkins?

@MoonpieCreations 5 ай бұрын

Hmmm. Maybe with super low power setting. I would suggest you get some and try a bunch of settings.

@laurazakrzewski 10 ай бұрын

Good info Ken

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

Thanks 👍

@dgilbertbigd 4 ай бұрын

Will this machine engrave on hand tools such as wrenches and sockets? Wrenches being chrome and some sockets?

@MoonpieCreations 4 ай бұрын

I haven't tried it but I don't see why i would work on Chrome. Yes you can engrave metal tools with it.

@MrJimpurvis 10 ай бұрын

I did have a problem trying to engrave a pizza cutter barely left a mark even with cermark

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

Really, that's strange.

@robr4379 10 ай бұрын

So i have a couple of questions what exactly can you do with this can you only do smaller stuff like you showed or can you do bigger i saw what looked like tumblers cutting boards and rolling pin in the intro and how easy is it to get everything the right size and lined up perfectly also whats the kickstarter thing you mentioned

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

Hey, you really can not do larger things with this. Although, you do have the option of the extent ion which allows large things to be lasered. Lining thigs up is easy as you have the framer. The Kickstarter was the monetary campaign xTool ran to get funding for th eF1.

@robr4379 9 ай бұрын

@MoonpieCreations that'd good to know cause I like the idea of this being portable and takes up less space even if it wasn't considered portable bur would also like to be able to do tumblers

@claudiapolena6830 10 ай бұрын

What settings do you used for the IR on the tumblers. Because I couldn’t get it right. I am testing here for a week and I didn’t it get clean with just one pass. Thank you already 😊

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

That really depends on the tumbler type. I did a test grid to find what worked for me, but I found 80spd 100pwr 200lpi worked for me.

@jamesbrown-cy1mj 8 ай бұрын

I ran 2 passes for mine, first pass with blue laser and 2nd pass with IR laser, and the results are stunnng. @@MoonpieCreations

@dormil73 8 ай бұрын

thank you for your overview!!! is this possible 220v?

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

Is a 120 V but you can choose which ones need on their website

@dormil73 8 ай бұрын

Thank you!!! Have great Weekend :)

@reneematthews2527 3 ай бұрын

Can you tell me honestly which is the better machine, this out the Glowforge? Which is easier to use and can do the most?

@MoonpieCreations 3 ай бұрын

So Glowforge is a CO2 laser cutter that can cut and engrave materials like wood, glass, and plastic. The xTool F1 is a portable laser engraver that can engrave at a speed of 4000 mm/s. The Glowforge is more comparable to the xTool P2 not the F1. So they don't really compare.

@armondtanz 5 ай бұрын

Was wondering if you put a long piece of wood or slate on the extender table 4inch x 12 inch could it engrave right across it?

@MoonpieCreations 5 ай бұрын

Yes it can.

@armondtanz 5 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations I owned a big laser cutter years ago. Never done anything onto metal. Has anything changed. I heard you had to coat the metal?

@parisbastille 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, Do you know if it is possible with the xTool F1 to engrave texts on a large surface by moving the device for each engraving step while maintaining the alignment of the texts?

@MoonpieCreations 3 ай бұрын

Only with the slide piece I showed can you make larger letters. Unfortunately it's not made for larger items.

@parisbastille 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for your answer and your videos@@MoonpieCreations

@user-we4il5iw4q 5 ай бұрын

I thought that the f1 was not compatible with lightburn? Could you clarify please?

@MoonpieCreations 5 ай бұрын

Check out this article from xTool support support.xtool.com/article/496?from=xTool%2BF1&url=/product/2&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAyeWrBhDDARIsAGP1mWTyfu9XdTb5HcUn3b9qTXNCXuTPxhsaI97woxBKDlYaB5eOrbx_kz0aAm8wEALw_wcB

@ReallyBigTeeth 8 ай бұрын

Can the xTool F1 be used to mark black ABS plastic similar to the way it marks acrylic?

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

ABS emits cyanide gas (HCN), which is deadly. It is not recommended to use with a laser.

@JSAFIXIT 7 ай бұрын

@MoonpieCreations It also releases chlorine gas, it will also kill you. Once that gas and the tiny particles of it settle, any moisture will convert that hydrochloric acid. This includes your skin.

@runtime1976 7 ай бұрын

What are those "tiles" that you are using?

@MoonpieCreations 7 ай бұрын

Those are Slate Coasters. You can get them on amazon here amzn.to/3PZTUPm

@blazinwoodworks5658 7 ай бұрын

The one question I have is are there any machines that are able to be ran, including design phase from an iPad Pro or are they all from laptops?

@MoonpieCreations 7 ай бұрын

xTool has creative space. But it is limited. I don't think I have seen a comprehensive design tool for iPad from any LASER maker.

@vanessagarcia8203 6 ай бұрын

I run xTool creative space from my IPad Pro. You can even run it from your phone.

@pamelajimenez6282 3 ай бұрын

Have you engraved in a black to gold patch? I can’t get the settings correct

@MoonpieCreations 3 ай бұрын

Sorry I haven't yet.

@latherookie 10 ай бұрын

Like the video right up to the point. (The Price)

@melitimm8781 10 ай бұрын

Steep price for sure ouch. It will go on my "someday" list.

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

It is expensive, But I think if you are looking to have a portable laser you can bring to craft shows or other events it might be perfect. The KEY here is "not hobby" for sure.

@pruecurtotti3575 22 күн бұрын

Hi can you engrave 925 sterling silver with the XTool F1 Thank you

@MoonpieCreations 21 күн бұрын

Hey, the F1 can engrave on any metal. Here is a link to the xTool web site that explains the settings on how to mark do 925 Silver. projects.xtool.com/inspiration/5886

@mattjoker86 6 ай бұрын

Does this system have a camera ? To see the media you're going to cut/engrave ?

@MoonpieCreations 6 ай бұрын

Sorry it does not. But it does have a laser outline function

@RobDuarte 5 ай бұрын

The laser preview is way better than a camera as far as I can tell.

@benjaminpastrana9662 9 ай бұрын

My xtool M1 went crazy and now it fires the laser ray at will😳I never tried to use the laser since I was doing only Blade cuts in paper. They want to send me some new parts but I am not happy! I bought it from amazon and the returns grace days just expired just when it started with problems 🤦🏻maybe I should ask for a credit and buy the F1. Just because it can cut transparent acrylic 🎉

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for that info.

@lindascraftsandthings915 6 ай бұрын

I don't think the F1 can cut transparent acrylic.

@KismeticMiles-jl6vp 3 ай бұрын

Is it possible to add patterns to the tiny gold block necklace instead of words? also, doesn't the f1 make more sense than the d1? quality wise

@MoonpieCreations 3 ай бұрын

You should have no problem with making designs on he neckless, just remember you can only engrave so small. As for which one makes sense, it all depends on what you are doing. The D1 is great for larger cuts while to F1 is better for smaller projects. Well that's my opinion anyway.

@JessicaLarronda-mr9hw 7 ай бұрын

Hi, Do you think it is possible to engrave 9x12 cutting boards and possibly other wood pieces that are about 12x12 with the extension attachment?

@MoonpieCreations 7 ай бұрын

I'm not sure they would balance on the extension. It's only 4' or so wide.

@TheNitro200 10 ай бұрын

Do you think it's strong enough to do a lower receiver?

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

I haven't tried that yet, but I don't see why not. The IR should work fine. If I come across someone who has done it I will let you know.

@JSAFIXIT 7 ай бұрын

If it removed rust from the pliers, it should work on a receiver. Most of them are coated in black oxide.

@Ky-cw7sd 8 ай бұрын

Hows the fumes from this? Pretty strong?

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

No more than any other laser, but when I use the filter I get nothing at all.

@ginnyhmoss 6 ай бұрын

Will this work on wool hats?

@MoonpieCreations 6 ай бұрын

Sorry I have never tried this. Maybe someone will see this comment and answer. Or there is an F1 facebook group you could check with.

@turdferguson5300 10 ай бұрын

I hate my "smart" phone, what the heck am I goina do with that? It might improve my shooting if I draw a target on it...

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I have two smart phones. Personal and work. lol

@believingintheblood8540 6 ай бұрын

What is the expected longevity of this 2k machine?

@MoonpieCreations 6 ай бұрын

Depending on use 10,000 hrs

@lindascraftsandthings915 6 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations great video! What happens after 10,000 hours? 😳 Do you need to replace any parts or get a new laser? Also, if you need to get parts replaced, which parts and how much do they cost (in the USA)? Thank you.

@MoonpieCreations 6 ай бұрын

@@lindascraftsandthings915 10k hrs is a long time but sometime the lasers wear out. Happens in all lasers. If one of the two lasers stops workings you will have to replace them. xTool has pretty good tech support and can get you any part you need. At least that is my experience. Cost I guess would depend on which part, but I couldn't tell you how much for them.

@MrJimpurvis 10 ай бұрын

I love mine

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

Awesome. It's fun to use.

@revtoyota 8 ай бұрын

Ok so going by the time you give at 8:15 this is in the same speed range as a D1 Pro 20w doing slate?

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

Yes, but I have seen on the FB groups people who have dial it in and it took 53 sec to do a coaster.

@revtoyota 8 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations Nice.. How does it do with ceramic tile/coasters? That is the one thing no one shows on any of the reviews.

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

I never tried one. Sorry.

@revtoyota 8 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations All good, it was worth a shot. Thank you for your time.

@909_WoodWorks 10 ай бұрын

Great video Ken, awesome machine even with some of the cons.I feel like the pros still outweigh them. Can I have it 🤣

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

Haha, I'll have to opt out of this one.

@909_WoodWorks 9 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations had to try 🤣

@user-nf5yd4kc9b 3 ай бұрын

can be used on curved surfaces?

@MoonpieCreations 3 ай бұрын

I used it on a few flasks. Just have to have the setting good.

@user-nf5yd4kc9b 3 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations you could write something on the handle of an art brush. then we'll see if the machine is good for this... the painted handle... let's say black, green.

@seanb658 7 ай бұрын

The strong shall stand..

@MoonpieCreations 7 ай бұрын

The weak will fall by the wayside!

@rileycrain5784 7 ай бұрын

How does this machine compare to a Fiber Mopa Laser?

@MoonpieCreations 7 ай бұрын

Unfortunately I have never used one of those.

@SCUUBDO Ай бұрын

Mopas can do color. That made me happy.

@MLB9000 8 ай бұрын

How much does the ink cost?

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

Ink?

@MLB9000 8 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations The laser uses ink, like a laser printer?

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

@@MLB9000no it uses light amplification to burn the image

@geraldlamothe6091 10 ай бұрын

Great video...What I don't like is the annoying beep...Even my dog hates it...And if you find it pricey,you're lucky you don't live in Canada...It cost more,way more.

@MoonpieCreations 9 ай бұрын

I have been trying to mute the beep too. lol I hate when governments get greedy, but hey you have free health care right? (Sorry that was a bad joke. I know you guys pay a hefty tax on earning to pay for that health care.)

@geraldlamothe6091 9 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations The next XCS update we will be able to turn off the annoying beep...

@GoCreateSomething 4 ай бұрын

You could have just cleared the rust off for your logo on the pliers. lol.

@mpcreviews 4 ай бұрын

Haha, where were you when I was doing the review? Great idea!

@MoonpieCreations 4 ай бұрын

Not sure how I posted from my Review account. lol

@DukeONerds 8 ай бұрын

Ok how Infantry man proof is it ? Safty notes

@MoonpieCreations 8 ай бұрын

I worked with them for 23 yess as rd and it survived me.

@rosswalker63 7 ай бұрын

TACP!!!!!

@MoonpieCreations 7 ай бұрын

Gung-ho!

@melitimm8781 10 ай бұрын

Crap, more tools I have to buy 😅

@MoonpieCreations 10 ай бұрын

I have this feeling a lot. Unfortunately my business account if empty at the moment. Been a rough 9 months for MPC.

@melitimm8781 10 ай бұрын

@@MoonpieCreations I'm really sorry to hear that and certainly relate. I had back surgery 2 months ago and I'm just now starting to get back to my hobbies and my job in a couple weeks. I hope things turn around for you soon!

@niceguydmm 6 ай бұрын

Hard to make money with these since everyone on KZfaq is telling everyone you can make easy cash. Went to a show and 10 people had them on tables. There 100's of channels now with CASH on the thumbnail... Only people making any cash are the channels. Well maybe for a short time since everyone is doing it.

@MoonpieCreations 6 ай бұрын

I guess it's how you approach it. As with everything you need to find a niche, whether it's this LASER of any other. I can make $25 profit off 4 slate coasters. I market to my military buddies with a military logos on them. I usually get around 100 orders for them over Christmas. For Slim 20z tumblers I make $20 profit and sell about 25-30 over Christmas. Just because everyone is doing it don't get discouraged. Just find something people may want and do it better.

@JANJOHNSON59 5 ай бұрын

Aren’t military logos copyrighted by the DOD?

@MoonpieCreations 5 ай бұрын

@@JANJOHNSON59 They sure are. The TACP Flash and Crest are considered public domain.