YAY! A new saw video.... Also how about a top 10 dark comedy/horror films and i know the top three 1. Terror Tract 2. Bad Biology 3. Death Becomes her

Yeah I knew you forgot about that thief who got himself trapped in a barbed wire bed when he also tried to kill William / Jigsaw

Unfortunately, I find the most realistic of these bad choices the Health Insurance one. This is because there are, (not to sound Jigsaw-like but due to experience here), a variety of companies that literally try to get around the law not to help people for various reasons whenever they can. Sedgwick is one of the most guilty companies (IRL) of doing this since they help organizations like Walmart or Walgreens basically do this for their employees via corporate passing-the-buck to them. Demotion as the main option for asking for a single, basic accommodation due to disability and logical reasoning about it isn't accommodation, it's bulls**t, especially a different, similar organization manages to work with your disability and the minimal accommodations asked for. That's why I took my Short-Term Disability Insurance Money and quit before the automated Leave of Absence ran out. I didn't harm anyone else doing that but hope it made a point to the idiot in Personal department that made whole thing required - "forgetting" about a disability repeated is a cowardly, jerk move especially the disabled person got full permission and understanding from their direct department manager already. That's already enough to annoy the heck out of a basic, retail staff member alone. If I could get a cure for that disability and my employer and/or healthcare got in the way, I would be reasonable angry about it myself. Mine's not fatal (most of the time - SUDS exists but is rare), just potentially eventually crippling. So to me, John Kramer being pissed enough about literally being sentenced to death via Brain cancer to literally put multiple people from the healthcare company that denied his coverage seems like just Nuclear Revenge to me. I can find this point reasonable relatable - main difference here is I go with compliance to help me out. However for outside the law, John kind of has a point there; the extra murders are excessive, but for that particular entire movie, I can say that he's kind of justified there - especially since the main character did that for likely hundreds of people that were suffering and could have been cured and/or helped.

Am i the only person who felt sad seeing john get beaten up? i mean i know John is a lunatic but at the end of the day he is still just a sick old man.

@@shanecoulson7042 well Mark was upset that he took his son but he did failed his test

Lmao

Lmfaoooo winning comment 😂😂😂

Yup.

Yep you are right

Gotham syndrome

Wanted his 15 minutes of fame

I agree

and choosing an impossible trap at that, dude easily could've went with a basic trap, but no, he had to make up some bs that is ultimately proved to be anatomically impossible, and that cost him his wife

@@johnandreimayor822 That trap was survivable, but not by using the method he attempted (and wrote in his book) if stabbed through the ribs, would be able to support his weight, also supposedly could be cheated in some way by stabbing through the chains

His wife didn't deserve that, I don't think Jigsaw would've put an innocent person like her in such a brutal ass trap. Which Jigsaw prodigy do you think put her in there?

All I can hear whenever Jeff is mentioned now lol

​@@rowan4573 Same

Because of this, my fellow meaties, I honestly think he should have been #1 on this list.

Inaide joke in my family we would call him slow poke Jeffe lol instead of slow poke Rodriguez and jeffe instead of Jeff bc Spanish lol

Yes! That's all I can hear now whenever Jeff comes up. I even use it in every day life lol 😂

Yeah true

That's what I was thinking

Yup. Adrenalin, unbearable pain, most often the victims are drugged, enclosed spaces (Claustrophobia people would be in hell), and the dread of making a mistake could end your life is very stressful thing. Not to mention that the victims… never SAW it coming… I’ll go now. Me: [jumps on a giant flamingo and flies away into the sunset]

Funnily enough I am at my best in stressful situations but maybe that is due to my ADHD when my mind kicks into high gear and I develop hyperfocus. When the stakes are low it's really difficult for me to take anything seriously. Though I haven't been in a saw situation yet so I might be full of crap.

True, but the results of a bad decision are the same no matter WHAT rationalization or excuse anyone makes.

By that point they were conditioned to believe someone had to die

Hence, why it was covered as one entry on the list as "Not Working Together"

Saw 2 Eric not listening to Jigsaw got him kidnapped, saw 4 Riggs not listening to jigsaw got him and Eric killed

These bitches were physically fighting over the tunnel

Would also put not using the body of the women who was electrocuted as a source of blood in the subsequent trap

I'm pretty sure the knife Xavier threatened him with turned out to be fake.

@Mask it wasn't- he used it to cut the number off the back of his own neck when Amanda told him he needed them alive to see his number

Ok guys but the switch to turn the fire off was litterally in front of obi

@@serhan8047 Yeah, it was right there! He just didn't have the balls to get to it.

Scariest part was Obi wasn't to phased by it, even doing a little nick on his own neck with said knife before doing the task.

Easiest break up ever.

Easily the best decision Brad and Ryan ever made.

Why would they want to save her considering she was just using both of them when she started cheering for the winner that's when they knew she's wasn't worth it

Call of duty before they shake her booty

In that situation would you really give a shit whos "using" you? And would you really blame that girl for using them? It wasnt fair she had no say in whether she lived. I hate that trap. Especially why Jigsaw cared about any of them in the first place, like they weren't murderers or criminals.

yeah, Hoffman does have the remote to the mechanisms. Strahm died the moment he entered the basement.

If it was John, the box wouldve saved him. But Hoffman doesnt play by John's rules.

Honestly. I kept seeing comments like this "why didn't he just get in the box" I'm like. Dude even IF he got in the coffin. Do you really believe Hoffman would let him go? Chances are he STILL gets crushed to death (brutal way) but they're like "Hoffman is smarter" I'm like yeah that's obvious. But Strahm's is a lose lose situation. 💀 I swear those people are just dumb..

Err, I dunno if not hearing something making a decision?

Would’ve been better if he stayed with his wife.

@@pallyboy6005 How could he not hear it?! Eric was screaming at the top of his lungs and Eric has a very loud voice!

​@@mask938 Riggs was already moving in a forward direction plus he was on the other side of a door which he probably didn't hear clearly. He could have heard open the door instead of don't open the door.

@@Hannahgal11 There's no way he wouldn't have heard Eric's loud ass voice just because the door was closed.

i wish he jist shot those tubes over the cage ceiling

@@Amber_Freeman_Unmasked1406 that wouldn't have done anything though?

@@kelsey2333 their explosive meaning itll blow the cage at the top up

​@ghostface145 Just noticed your username. It's good to see a spiral child who respects other greats.

Really? So you support & like idiots? Nice to know. I will avoid you at all costs.

You can't fault them for doing their job, but I think it would've been wiser for them to deal with the evidence piling up against Hoffman without him present. They could have sent the tapes to FBI HQ to undo the voice change on the recordings.

@@shadowgirl617 The cops in this series are idiots!

@@shadowgirl617 They also could've had extra guards and cleared the room of any objects Hoffman could use to kill them.

Peter Strahm made the same mistake in Saw 5 when he pretty much told Hoffman that he suspects him in the hospital scene. He should have kept his thoughts to himself and secretly do his investigation without letting anyone else know.

Yea, they could have arrested him like normal cops and charged him with being a serial killer jigsaw. Then bring the proof in court

Your watching saw not Dora the explorer

You're not alone on that. I always yell at the stupid heads and even some survivors (amanda could have gotten out a lot easier if she didn't do the panic stabs. Just saying).

That's not an actual decision though, "just" a dumb and very costly mistake.

Once she got the syringe she could've used her other arm to get herself free

Mark Hoffman is my favorite character from this series as well

Damn, sucks to be them

I'm watching it for the first time this year. I've watched the first 3 movies so far. I'll watch the rest as soon as I get the password for my family's Hulu account.

Buy the CD set

I'm doing it now

while that idea sounds good, let me tell you something. one thing is to use a few drops on anything and another is injecting yourself with acid. on metal, bleach won't cause any damage for several minutes/hours but inject bleach in your body and you will be happy when you finally die. acid works the same. there are acids that will take a long time to damage metal or wood but will kill you if injected. this may be a bit of an stretch but lemonade is an acid. there's no chance in hell that it damages metal with only a few drops but I hope you don't try to inject lemonade on your body.

Sad thing was that she did give the answer of which antidote & they was like what. Then she said the answer again & nothing was done about it & then the Chain Trap activated. But uh at that point, the Jerk straight up didn't care for people at that time & just murders her.

nice loophole. but you can't be sure the acid will be strong enough to cause harm on the skin. you are only sure that, if injected, it will kill you. bleach, or lemonade, are lethal if injected but won't harm your arm if you drop a few drops on your arm.

She had just been shot so probably wasn’t very aware of what was going on.

@@Nonya943 oh opps, thanks for clarifying that, it’s been a while since I’ve seen this movie but I did remember her standing by when John died but not all the details

"Slow-Ass-Mutha-Fuckin'-Jeff!" -DeckerShado, the internet personality with the best hair.

@pallyboy6005 I thought it was dead meat lol

@@itsraven984 ooooh, maybe they both go for it~ A lot of the review/commentary channels shout each other out, I'm not sure who said it first~

​@@pallyboy6005 Oh ha 💀

That was part of the list

Idk though… because maybe just maybe the average person would have gotten closer to hear what it was saying… I didn’t even see the explosion coming

A better choice would've been to side step

Never saw the explosion coming. My mind would’ve immediately gone to thinking the room itself was booby trapped.

The main reason why I hate Horror Films is because almost everyone in the film is extremely stupid

She was on drugs there, she couldn’t think straight… as every person in the house there

@@ILoveLittleChildren Would you put both hands in the box immediately once you see it?

Yup she killed her recluctantly

I’ve always been insanely curious what John’s reaction would have been had Amanda let him find out.. part of me thinks John always knew, but it would have been an incredible twist if, as Amanda was dying from Jeff’s gunshot, John revealed he knew the whole time, making Amanda’s decision to shoot Lynn even more futile

Now Zepp dying was great. Regardless of him being a pawn, hw took a lot of pleasure in psychogically torturing a young girl and her mother. After that, watching Adam beating that creeps face in with a toilet lid was just fantastic to watch.

Don't underestimate the rack. It's like therapy, only a lot cheaper.

I think it’s Ivan’s death

Why was it satisfying? He was doing his job, unfortunately for John that’s how all insurance agencies are

@@bleachfan2.029 He drew first blood when he denied John’s demands. If he had just given John what he wanted, John would’ve never become Jigsaw and a hundred people would’ve survived. It doesn’t matter if he was just doing his job. It’s not a job worth having anyway.

Oh for sure

I loved him. But when he went through the door at the last second I wanna to literally smash my head into the TV.

Guarantee Ivan from Saw 4 is #1 if not close to the top.

@@darthmeticulous6901 I think the chick from jigsaw has to be #1 without question.

@@shadysorkin9214 Oh she’s in the top five undoubtably (Her name is Anna, I’m a Saw nerd). I’m just imagining that lots of people would view what Ivan did as worse because his actions affected more lives (when his corpse was found, it was revealed he victimized not just one, but 3 women), but yeah Anna’s equally bad.

@@darthmeticulous6901 Oh i thought ivan was just 1 woman. Ok then yeah ivan lmao

@@darthmeticulous6901Ivan‘s number 1 then Anna number 2 (although I do hate Anna so much, Ivan did it to more people)

I've always wondered how Jigsaw knew his victims.

Hoffman

Cope

THANK YOU !!!!!I WAS JUST SAYING THIS THE OTHER DAYYYY OMG 😂

RIGHT??? That one was the worst by far. There's SO much he could've done. Even putting the chains on the belt of his pants probably would've worked.

The test was to have the hooks through his pectoral muscles. To loop the hooks through his belt or anything else, would be a violation of the rules. If this wasn't the case, however, he should have gone with that.

Literally lmao

She didn't have anything to listen to it with though

@@kath9088 true but she could of went back to find the others to get the tape player since someone had it. Just an observation. But again nerve gas could cloud the judgment

@@qbert1558 That's definitely a lot better plan! Sorry for the blunt tone, I was a bit grumpy earlier, so I apologise for my rudeness!

@@kath9088 u r totally fine! 😁

That trap was a set up no matter what. Putting her other hand in the box was extremely dumb, but with how that needle was positioned and stuck to the glass she would have probably pulled the top off wasting the antidote just the same

Cecil and William were the reasons. I wouldn’t say the sole blame’s on Cecil

​@@Randomperson-zt3ilDon't forget Amanda She ask Cecil to do what he does

Yeah he’s the guy on the block in IV

@@Randomperson-zt3il I didn't recognize him at first..until I kinda reasoned out why he had the boot.

@@dreadmonkey6811 it’s hard to tell somewhat imo but I knew who it was when I first saw it

and that a good thing

Saw is like a choose your own adventure book where you get every choice wrong

That's not gonna stop em from making and releasing Saw X

Yeah that and the rack are the hardest ones to watch imo

Omg why would they do that. I agree that's probably my favorite twist reveal ever

So in the unrated version he just appears behind Rigg?

@@ghostfacekiller4371 Yep.

4 is completely forgetful.

That is amazing. It is so much like John getting up in 1

🥁🥁🥁

"I SAW what you did there." --Various sources and contexts though I first heard the line in game Dead Rising 2

I feel bad for the actor who played him. The creators forced him to by one of the dumbest characters in the Saw series.

Yea, revenge can wait if your wife is dying on the floor in front of you and he's practically a corpse on a hospital bed. He's not going anywhere anytime soon

Yeah but then they figured "Nah lets make it where Strahm is locked outside and Hoffman is safe and the walls crush Strahm to dust" but damn water in the coffin

I wonder how they would've continued. Glad they didn't do that. Hoffman was badass.

i never liked Hoffman anyways so I wish that was the ending and im gonna pretend that Strahm and Riggs are both still alive

Source?

Idk bro my Aunt Amanda is pretty chill

Yeah if im in a jigsaw trap im just gonna sit there til the timer goes off. Im gonna die anyways so might as well go the easy way!

Yeah, she was innocent and didn't know that her husband lied about being a survivor.

That's the difference between jigsaw and his apprentices. He made sure det matthews kid survived, after jigsaw died everyone's in danger.

bro what

That whole movie had terrible traps. if I was the guy I would have done a waterboarding trap instead of a wax trap. and rather than paralyzing her from the neck down paralyzing her from the waist down. That way she would be able to move her arms

@@Spiralredd Bruh, it's very obvious that Shenks didn't want the corrupt cops to survive. Also, the recording mentioned Garza "never sticking her neck out for others". The blade being under her neck relates to that. The traps in the Saw movies that are made for specific people are symbolic of their misdeeds and the same applies for the traps in Spiral. The Tongue Vice is related to how Boswick would lie in court trials, the Fishnet Finger Trap is related to how Fitch killed an innocent person with his trigger happy fingers, the Wax Trap is related to how Garza covered up police corruption, and the Puppet Trap is related to the former captain's misdeeds. The only one that doesn't seem to relate to the victim is the Glass Blower.

@@mask938 yeah but still the traps themselves are so poorly created none of them could have worked.

@@Spiralredd They actually can work. All of the Saw traps can work. The film crew speaks to actual engineers to find out if the traps could work in real life.

billy

How did you not know

@@Spiralredd To be fair, the name is never spoken in the films, but a lot of us have seen the behind the scenes and other stuff outside of the film. It’a a coin flip on if the average person knows that one.

@@darthmeticulous6901 yeah but we are talking about a simple Google search here

@@Spiralredd Yes, but in my experience that means nothing if people are unwilling/too lazy to bother looking up/reading something.

That's not true if you survive you live that's his whole thing. Go thru hell to be grateful of your life and do better

Unles you're dealing with Amanda you'd likely live.

He actually let's you live. There's a survivor group for people who lived. Unless you have Amanda or Hoffman, you're fine

​@@yoshifrazzled7628 thats why jigsaw keeps his identity secret by not showing his face in the tapes

Have you even watched the Saw movies? The whole point of Jigsaw's games is to make people appreciate their lives by putting them through games that are symbolic of their misdeeds. John doesn't kill the survivors and he doesn't tell his followers to kill them either. In Saw 3D, there's even a support group for Jigsaw survivors.