I hope you sold every model at its highest peak and drove by the boutique in a Lamborghini urus black on black Like “ I hate y’all I’m done with y’all but I gotta admit I do appreciate the fact that I spent maybe $100k and got about 250k+ back 😂 Even now your APs bring about $45k-60k ish , sell them Ridah , if they gave you a headache make $50-80k off it

I don't like the brand either, it seems like they want it all their own way and they're over-priced imo. I am in no position to purchase one of those watches, it has to be said but if I were, I w/d be going for something more than a chunk of steel that looks like you recently visited a scrap yard and took a piece with you... ;)

All your points seem valid, but you kept going after this brand for over 5 years. It looks like you were pissed that they wouldn't allocate you the 50th anniversary as promised and then found all these reasons why you're done with them. It doesn't take 5 years to realise the bracelet is uncomfortable, you don't like the design and that it's "too" expensive. I mean you bought 4 AP's within this period if I'm not mistaken, it's a weird way to show you don't like the Royal Oak, I hope you get my point. It's like you're in love with a girl, you like everything about her etc, one day she cheats on you with your best friend, she dumps you, it's over, you're sad. And then in public you would say, I was never in love with her, she had all these defaults, I'm glad it's over blablabla but the truth is that you're hurt but find these reasons to heal faster and not lose face in public. I think it's also why it took so long for you to release this video, cause you tried to solve this by directly reaching AP and get your 50th anniversary. Unfortunately for you it didn't work and then you realised it's over, you're blacklisted from this brand and will never get another watch from them. So you act in public like it's your choice to stop with this brand to save face but we ALL know that if you got your 50th anniversary as promised you would still praise AP... Sorry for you though, but try to be a bit more honest, all your followers are not fools...

One trick pony brand, im done too

@@bobbybobby3589 Yeah the sudden U-turn on AP seems to suggest he wasn't allocated something that he wanted and pissed him off.

all the brands could care less about you they dont even want you in there store ahaha

AP Royal Oak is just a 20k$ watch, it's just the symbol of current speculation about watches... and people make this kind of video, talking about more like a "luxury thing to show off" strengthen it. I will never buy a AP RO more than 30k ..

@@johnnyboy7115do you clean off your wife’s mouth after leaving the AD 😂😂😂, do you have to do tricks like a circus dog in there.

You guys aren't watch lovers. You're hype lovers. What makes a fool spend that much on a steel 'sports' watch which took 5 minutes to design on the back of a napkin? Do you know anything of quality that was made in 5 minutes?

Hi Spaniard here, little correction: Cajones: _Drawers._ Cojones: _Balls._ 🤣

The youtube channel makes it easy…

I’ll be honest I have a opinion up about AP which is horrid.with vacheron I was in store once in California in 2020 and I didn’t but the blue overseas they offered me.( stupid I know) but ever since I made that mistake I been calling vacheron and putting my name in there customer service portals that they ask you to on the website and through Instagram. I’ve even called the New York store. The California store was great but since then vacheron has not tried to help.

Right on about Vacheron boutique and their good treatment of potential bew customers....same experience

I think that just like with any other luxury brand the experiences vary drastically. I had my 15500 about 5-6 months after talking to them. Did not have to follow up or anything. I am not rich or a celebrity type of client either. Just a guy that loves watches.

@@chrmez wow congrats. I don’t understand the inconsistencies in who gets allocated what, but at the end of the day demand exceeds supply so AP decides who’s in and who’s out. I’ve been ‘out’ for over 2 years now…

Same here, very bad experience with AP boutique in HK that only deal with a small bunch of customers/flippers (with many watches ended up in grey market). On the other side, wonderful experience with Vacheron so this influenced my collection and my last 4 watches purchases are VC.

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'Get the strap" #50cent.voice

i think many people like the watch. But dislike the purchase experience

Well said Vince

Many thanks for sharing Micro, its really sad whats happening to this brand! The further the message gets away from Le Brassus the less effective it is! ❤️

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Great comment. They really tried a new design with the code1159. And they almost had it too but let themselves down on the weirdly under designed dials in my opinion. If they had fantastic well balanced dials out of the gate the Code would have been a great edition. I think they should reboot the code with better dials. I also think the pricing is an issue. There are companies creating fantastic watches at a similar or even lesser price. AP should look to take the feedback and improve or they could bubble along as they are…

@@WatchSociety Have you tried on the 50th anniversary 15510 or the 15550? They updated the bracelet and there is taper in the thickness of each link. It’s more comfortable

Waking up to it! Check out the JLC video I’ve just done on the Polaris, a fraction of the price!

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Is this issue of sour grapes? Come on have not owned few ROs already. Just realized how bad watches they are? Do not abuse your social media power for personal experience.

@@chakarinkomolsiri5671 but they are bad. why do you think the date is not on the margin of the dial? because they used ultra slim movements that aren't for 41 for then to break easily

Did you own other APs apart from RO? They do make other watches. Did you try them.

@@oysterman962 Well, yes. My comment does in fact say so. 9 Offshores and 7 Oaks. What does this have to do with my comment though?

@@bryanng80 I am considering to buy an AP but not a RO or Offshore. Just wanted to know your opinion of AP dress watches but I guess my question is redundant since you only owned ROs. Considering you owned so many variants of the same model, I would say you have brand fatigue more than anything else. I think it's time you moved on to another manufacturer or try a different model and let someone else who appreciates the RO have a chance to buy it. Same goes for Ryder doing this review. Why did he even buy the RO of he doesn't appreciate the design? He's complained about the bracelet being ill fitting. If it's not comfortable why did you buy it?? I think you guys are in it for nothing more than hype. You probably just buy and sell them for profit. When you say you owned several, I can only imagine you flipped them. The other thing I want to mention is the quality of the watch is irrelevant to the customer service. Two separate issues. I had a customer service complaint against JLC but that was one store. I can't judge my opinion of the brand based on the attitude of one boutique or AD who isn't even a watchmaker and just as salesperson. Otherwise I'd shop at Hublot, having experienced the best customer service from them when I accidentally walked into the wrong boutique.

​@@oysterman962 i believe we own AP because we used to love this brand. I also believe we start to dislike this brand because we don't feel like to be treated like a fool. And AP's current sales model is treat their customers like a begger. i think purchase experience is important when it comes with luxury goods

@@mygift28 Yes you're right. Purchase experience is important when you are paying for the privilege to own something exclusive. I had put my name down on several AD waitlists but if I finally do get the call I'm going to reject the offer. Not just AP but any brand that makes you beg and discriminates their customers should not be given the satisfaction to receive your business. People should stop feeding this unhealthy industry of false luxury. It's only perceived rarity. If AP or Rolex wanted to mass produce these obsolete objects of frivolous desire they could easily open more factories and employ more people. It's a manufactured good. It's not a rare commodity or a non renewable naturally occurring mineral. Anything man made can be replicated and replaced. STOP being a sucker.

i don't believe prices will stay that way. nothing last forever. remember that.

Lusted for it for a decade? They threw them at you 5 years ago. Why didnt you buy it then. You wanted it for free? And now it drops off your grail list... what a joker

@@rogerstrough3586 Maybe he couldn’t afford it 5 years ago and now he can. 🤔 That’s the case with myself. Not a joker, but I smartened up and went VC!! The Overseas bracelet is AMAZING and I don’t feel like a sheep in the herd.

@@alc1824 I Own a VC Traditionelle World Time, class watches, im not just a Rolex fanboy. Omega is great too. But back to our guy here - he said he lusted after the RO for a decade..when it was cheap. And now its triple retail its off his grail list. Dont know how cheap he wanted it but come on, they went for 20k ish a few years back ;)

I am in no shape or form influencing your decision, but can tell you ever since the new management was brought in customer experience went down the drain! An ex employee of AP once told me they are the most unprofessional and unreliable company to work for and that’s why people do not tend to stay long! Sounds like a nasty culture, ruled by fear as reflected today in Audemars Piguet customer service!

💯% Size side, I actually think the ROO is better value for the buck! RO pricing vs actual cost is a joke and so do their customer service! Wait and see what will happen to this brand! A lot of watch enthusiasts are paying more attention than ever to Lange, Vacheron, IWC, and JLC. And yes it’s sticky cuff links now 😂

Bro, you don't treat a $35k watch like a $150 watch. You should and would have higher expectations when you are spending that much. When you are extremely overpaying for a particular type device, you are doing it because of the brand--usually a higher brand means higher expectations. Nevertheless, I have the issue with mine wear it's either too tight or too loose. So I wear it slightly too loose and then it slides around and if it slides too much, then my hand hits the clasp which opens it super easy. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@@apathy11303 Again I don't believe he would be done with the brand if they treated him like a king. So it seems like he got his feelings hurt and as a result, is coming for the brand. Just one opinion of many, I'm sure.

If the watch isn't comfortable then why buy it? This just proves he bought it for hype and prestige of the watch, not even necessarily because of the brand, just that particular model. Wake up losers. AP does make other models. Do you'll have to buy RO? You are the reason why the price is so artificially inflated. You deserve to be treated a fool that you are. The RO was never designed to be comfortable. It was designed to look industrial. Genta was an Italian. Do you know that anything Italian designed usually adopts the principle of form over function? It's an object of beauty but impractical. All you idiots have been buying into the hype for 50 years! I bet 90% of AP RO owners never heard of Gerald Genta or AP before social media. They like it because it's a trend. It means you don't have individual taste. AP will suffer like Panerai did. The collectors aren't real enthusiasts. They just follow the hype.

​@@patrick7228 Of course the customer service is part of the ownership experience! Entirely valid POV!

The familiar playbook - all good and nice video endorsement / influencing if you are treated well and all bad and hate video endorsement if you are not treated well. Haha

Very curious how they come up with that time frame. And if AP manager actually think any logical person will wait that long for a non-essential toy. We can bring our money elsewhere. And receive more enjoyment (i mean what are they really thinking???) i rather they tell customer that they can't sell you that model. Its better than tell you 11 years... Will they still produce that model 10 years from now? ...

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Very true

I concur and I can hardly think of any other watch brand provides better service here in HK….

Sick purchase story! Did you buy from the AP House in Central? Would love to connect as I’ve been waiting for mine as well!

wow.. good to know that. i thought they are all the same. Glad to hear that HK store provide good service as they are suppose to in the first place

They do make other watches apart from RO & Off Shore. Maybe if people stop buying into the hype & start discovering other offerings of the brand then they might get a different experience. Saying AP is a one trick pony because you only like that model is unfair. Like saying McDonalds only makes Big Macs.

I too would prefer the 15300 to the 15400 and the 15400 to the 15500.

That just tells you enough about AP Middle East management! Thank you for your continued support Brandon 🙏 ❤️

Yes indeed, i've heard the same from watch technicians who actually use to work for AP. Totally agree!

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Let’s not forget that you are dealing with overworked retail staff that are literally ruled by fear from AP’s new management! Your experience is unacceptable, period! I would however point at APs strategy, management as opposed to these guys. As a result, AP today are years/miles far away from what are soon to be “no longer customers” what a shame destroying a historical brand.

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@Michael, get rid of those things and mainstream Rolex..

@@smm6526 Listen child I have thirty watches all heavy hitters. Stick to your swatch & Timex pieces

@@michaelcipriano5803 I don't give a rats bottom how many watches you have...live your life, just get rid of that AP shyt...

@@smm6526 Ok little child. LOL

Indeed

Rez, thank you for watching brother, truly appreciate it and can relate to you. I've seen guys walk into AP dubai mall boutique in Messka (luxury brand) bags and walk out with them full of watches! Where is it going? How? I am not sure and that remains a mystery, but i can tell you one thing, their is always a back-door that is not open for people like you and I. At the end of the day, let me put it this way, sometimes we can feel like we are always chasing something just because we can't have it. I use to think its partly due to our vanity and self-esteem, and partly due to our warped sense of that thing's value. But when you actually get it, you realize that you never wanted it in the first place. Thats maybe why i didn't care for the outcome and refused to remove the video! This is turning into a therapy session 😂 but hope you got my point. Stay well and safe ❤️

@@WatchSociety I'm down with your therapy session; for me the same! You took all of my frustrations and summed it up in your video. Anyway, at the end of the day AP doesn't care; they have people "who are chasing" buying their product regardless. But they are giving it to flippers and they know it! Keep making great videos! They are real!! Real is great!

Congrats 🥳 I absolutely love Vacheron

Yes indeed, AP seem to forget that customer service is important! leveraging consumerism with a degree of limitation on supply is understandable for any luxury brand's growth. However, to create a unique trustworthy customer experience you also want to spread brand's positivity, something that is extremely hard for AP to establish and demonstrate when their front facing employees are unqualified, rude and completely disconnected from the brand's message. I personally see the royal oaks coming back on display should AP continues this way!

If fantastic doesn't include reliability, then without a question! However, thats 20% of the job!

Tell me about it!

@@WatchSociety take your hard earned money somewhere else bro!

David firstly congrats on getting your watch in a time when AP was still a like-able brand. Subsequently and in retrospective, their is no AP world, its one model line, the royal oak, thats it! What makes a certain dial color boutique exclusive? What does that even mean? All AP boutiques around the world are no longer associated with any authorised dealer!

Hey Penny, i know! I thought about you when making this video 😂 It is indeed the local boutiques, but honestly i do not care for buying any more AP's for the 3 reasons, and just bored of the design 😂 i was thinking to trade all three for a nautilus and stay there!

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Lol bro if u Weber attracted and thought the ap as you say was hideous and outdated then why would u bother to reach out to the ad and be upset if ever “materialized” capppp

Were never*

@@williamf4229 I said the offshore is hideous. It was early in my collecting, I wanted to add a royal oak to the collection even if I was never that attracted to it. If you never brought one and tried it on you would never know if it works for you. At least i would have tried it and the worst case senerio, i would have part exchanged it for something else. If R never brought the 15500st he would have never have known the bracelet was uncomfortable. That's unfortunately what us hobbyist do.

Even if ok I’m sure. got it smh

Well said @RichardMan ❤️

Thank you for watching David 🙏 Having owned a few watches myself, I can say it came down to how your collation matures with you? What are you really paying for? And how does it make you feel? The answer to me was really a.Langa & Söhne! The Lange 1 in specific. Outside of look and feel, and wither it can handle a beat or not, to me AP is a young man’s movement! 😂 Seriously, once your get past the bracelet, there is really nothing there unless you go vintage!

Wow passive aggressive much? Sorry his opinion changed, you know I know in the woke world we live in a human can’t ever make mistakes, or God forbid change an opinion.

@@PGoh440 I just found it interesting that he only changed his opinion of the watch after the sales guy told him he wouldn't be allocated one.

Totally agree and im surprised nobody called him out on it. My RO 50th anniversary chrono was delayed by about a month and a half literally due to component shortages. Was a worldwide delay, for everyone, even VVIP. Yet this guy thought he was too important and antagonized them so they cut him off. He thought he could use his online influence to force their hand but obviously overestimated his impact. He knows he screwed up and is now salty. I dont understand how people dont see this.

@@karimhanis yup

When Riyadh loved AP so much, know he hates them! The truth revealed, you made a video on how to get an AP without going through the boutique! AP in Dubai asked you nicely to take it down, you refused! So your in the wrong, plus they declined to give the Chrono 26240 50th Anniversary! I like your video’s, but on this case your totally wrong, Riyadh!

I hear you Mehdi, AP was lucky to have your business. Lets see what happens when this luck runs out! It already started!

My man! Welcome 🙌

Makes the two of us Audiman

You and me both! ❤️

Kept a blind eye and like everyone else went with it when i shouldn't have! You are right! The question about the taking the video down unleashed it all for me

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The word Ban! Man, we ban AP! Whilst Vacheron for me is at heart i've also gone the Lange route

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@@WatchSociety I highly recommend you do a review video of the $90 Pagani Royal Oak vs. Your genuine AP. Lol. They'll be furious. What is funny is that I bought that $90 quartz watch intending to gift it to a teenager I know and they complained about all the same things that you articulated. Uncomfortable on the wrist, a half link was needed as it was either way too loose or too tight and the sharp edges were all prickly. I ended up getting him a quartz homage Paul Newman that actually had a sapphire crystal with screw down links. He loved it and says he wants the real one. I told him it's gonna be a while.

Couldn’t have put it any better. That is exactly what’s happening and the reason why I’ve also turned away! It just goes to show you what type of leadership and company culture is on the inside. I hope they change this disgrace of CEO they’ve got on, remember what brought them here in the first place and get back to what they use to be! This is not just about how they treat customers but this mockery of so called new releases!

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I've emailed it 😂 Thank you S.M ❤️