Water Fuel Separator & Filter Installation

Water Fuel Separator & Filter Installation - A MUST HAVE ON YOUR BOAT!

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This video is a step by step how-to installation of a water/fuel separator and filter. With poor quality gas, ethanol, and water in fuel becoming more and more common, this $50-$60 investment is a must have on every boat. THe installation is quick and easy, and it can be placed inside of the boat our mounted outside on the back of your railings if need be. Please subscribe to our channel and comment with questions you have.
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@MikeTLive 3 ай бұрын

watching almost 1 year from when you made it. good video. i'm adding 2 tanks and a fuel water separator. seeing examples from other people is very helpful.

@tomspontoons 3 ай бұрын

Awesome! Thanks for watching, hope it was helpful!

@meangene67 15 күн бұрын

Thank you for the last tip

@tomspontoons 15 күн бұрын

Happy to help! Thanks for watching.

@davidfishferrell 2 жыл бұрын

I’ve used these for years! Here’s a tip. Drain it is into a clear jar ever time before you go. The reason you drain it every time before you go is because if it has water already in the filter it’s just going push water into your engine. The reason you pour the gas from the filter into a clear jar is because once it sits the water and gas will separate and you can see how much water is in the gas the store your getting it form has in their tanks.

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

Totally get that method, and to do so every trip I would 100% recommend the type of filter with the twist drain on the bottom, and it has a clear window to check for water or debris! I change them once a season, or check it first if there’s an engine issue to test the fuel for water!

@davidcross2021 2 жыл бұрын

Wow Tom ! You never fail to impress me with every video you share. Just wanna say thank you ! Chris and I love our ( new boat ) and everything you have done , we are so excited to get it in the lake and enjoy an awesome summer.....Fishing and relaxing fun again, woo hoo !

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I’m excited for you two to enjoy it and all the fish it brings in!

@michelwilliams2035 Жыл бұрын

just wanted to say I love how detail you are I appreciate it thanks

@tomspontoons Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the kind words, and for watching my channel!

@bethsolomon7351 11 ай бұрын

Thank you 🎉I just installed mine too.

@tomspontoons 11 ай бұрын

Smart move!!!

@Pianofishdave 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for making this. My 1996 50hp evinrude suddenly sputters and e en has died down at idle at a boat ramp a couple times. A friend recommended changing out the fuel water separator so this video is helpful!

@tomspontoons 8 ай бұрын

Happy to help, and thanks for watching! It could certainly be that you have some water in your fuel (test what comes out of the old filter), or it could need the carburetors cleaned too as those tiny openings in the low speed jets can get gunked up over time to where it'll run at higher speeds but struggle to idle.

@Elephant_Butte_Lake Жыл бұрын

Great video, as all of yours are. Other reasons to oil the filter seal are to keep the dry rubber from binding as you tighten it, and to make sure any air bubbles get squeezed out.

@tomspontoons Жыл бұрын

Thank you! And great input...it's one of those things where oiling the seal is just the right way to do (it for so many reasons)!!

@klewis3530 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Should follow up with a fuel cell installation in the center toon.

@tomspontoons Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Unfortunately we haven't tackled the center toon fuel cell installation. The center logs with fuel cell spaces we've installed are always missing the actual fuel cell! And it seems that they're typically custom made for manufacturers dimensions so not easy to find a replacement. Only downfall for a center log fuel cell (and transom integrated for standard pontoon) is getting access to work on them or replace compared to an above deck tank.

@user-cl4xi9mp6s 3 ай бұрын

great video . Thks .

@tomspontoons 3 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching

@jmatarazzo18 2 ай бұрын

I have a 2018 pontoon with a transom mount fuel tank. I think this video was for me. Thanks. Currently trying to diagnose my fuel delivery issues. Thinking it’s water in the fuel…

@tomspontoons 2 ай бұрын

Happy to help. Most factory boats come with a water/fuel filter kit just like this…and if not they definitely should!! All of our new fuel system installs, even if it’s just a 6 gallon red can, get one. The nice thing about the filter is that you can test a sample from it in a clear bottle easily to diagnose things like that. Water in gas happens, even if running marina gas or recreational fuel. Once in a while there’s just a bad batch!

@davidcobb4527 Жыл бұрын

Awesome advice Tom! Being a newbie, never even gave it a thought! So I’ve just ordered the same style separator for both my pontoon and 16’ fishing boat. One question I do have…that Tohatsu separator you have…is the fitting plumbed so you can run dual fuel tanks? TIA…

@tomspontoons Жыл бұрын

Smart move!!! There are two inputs and two outputs on the housing so you can run multiple tanks and motors.

@J.O.. 2 жыл бұрын

Okay, you convinced me, I'll install a filter But I really wanted you to finish that sentence that transum fuel tanks have a reputation of....

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

GETTING WATER IN THE FUEL TANK!!! You’re doing the best thing possible for peace of mind and longevity of your motor. At one time, Tohatsu outboards required water fuel separators on their outboards in order to maintain warranty! That tells you how important they believe they are…Tohatsu is #2 in the world for outboards right behind Yamaha!

@captainawesome1597 2 жыл бұрын

Well my inboard pontoon didn't have one just ordered....thanks!!

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

It’s far more common for boats with I/O drives to have them (not necessarily pontoons with I/O). You’re doing the smart thing by controlling one issue that could go wrong!

@captainawesome1597 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomspontoons this was a no Brainer that I didn't even think about. I've changed every cable, maintenance and replacement part on the out drive engine and system and never thought about a water separator

@TERRYSMITH-vu6er 5 ай бұрын

having trouble installing mine i have a 18ft bass buggy dlx pontoon will i have to put the water seperator on my fencing

@tomspontoons 5 ай бұрын

I have had to install them on railings quite a bit. Inside and outside of the boat on the rails!

@timbarker4189 2 ай бұрын

Can you tell me what size those stainless steel screws are that you used to mount to the rail. I heard "1 inch quarter 20". I get the inch long part but for some reason not tracking "quarter 20" part..... Thanks for the video. Doing this upgrade this week

@tomspontoons 2 ай бұрын

1 inch long, 1/4” refers to the diameter, 20 refers to the thread. Usually written 1/4-20 stainless on any packaging or at the hardware store. Hope this helps!

@JDG022664 2 жыл бұрын

Planning to add one to my pontoon, would greatly appreciate a link in the comments.

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

Done! The link isn’t the exact one from the video as it was from a local Tohatsu dealer, but it’s one I would gladly use. Thanks John!

@JDG022664 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomspontoons Do you have a gas cap and vent system that you like?

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

@@JDG022664 to be honest I haven’t found one that I dislike yet for either. I prefer the metal finishes when possible for the gas fill because I’ve seen plastic caps that are beat up so much it’s hard to turn them anymore. I usually use SeaChoice and Perko brands for fills and vents!!

@TERRYSMITH-vu6er 5 ай бұрын

do you pump the bulb to you see fuel in the new water seperator

@tomspontoons 5 ай бұрын

Once everything is hooked up I prime the bulb until fuel is pushing all the way into the motor

@federicoolivieri1793 Жыл бұрын

Question: why it has 2 ins and 2 outs? In case of two diesel tanks?

@tomspontoons Жыл бұрын

Multiple tanks and/or multiple motors. Several ways to run those applications, but this is a nice simple way to do it.

@TERRYSMITH-vu6er 5 ай бұрын

i have the transom gas tank on the left side will be the gas line that goes to the motor rite

@tomspontoons 5 ай бұрын

There's a place on each side of the filter housing for an inlet and outlet to make it easier and cleaner for installation.

@southernliprippers327 2 ай бұрын

@@tomspontoons could they be on the same side or do the fuel lines have to be on opposite sides

@tomspontoons 2 ай бұрын

@@southernliprippers327 They can be on the same side. Just as long as one is pushing fuel into the inlet and the other is going out to the motor through the outlet. Then just plug the holes on the opposite side.

@soonerfan2262 Жыл бұрын

i just purchased a pontoon, it has a 90 hp Mercury,,, 4 stroke, im not sure if a fuel seperator will work on a 4 stroke, i believe there are 2 fuel pumps on the engine, not sure of that though, will a seperator work, or Not.. i was going to put one on, but im not sure that it will ever prime, thanks

@tomspontoons Жыл бұрын

It will absolutely work on a four stroke!! If it’s the newer 90 Mercury it calls for no primer bulb. The easiest way to get fuel through the system is to put a primer bulb at the end nearest the motor and get fuel pulled through the entire system to start, then hook the fuel line back up to the motor, and away you go. The other option is to do a key on cycle 10-15 times where you hear the fuel pump turn on and prime. Eventually that will fill the system and it will maintain the prime over time. I just installed a new 150 Mercury with a water fuel separator. I’ll prime some fuel to the motor and then hook it up and it’ll be ready to run. Let it idle a good long while when you first run it with the separator in to let it build that vacuum. It might idle a little rough here and there, but it’ll smooth out quickly as it gets the fuel flowing.

@ddamion1801 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a specific filter you should get? Where can I pick one up? I looked on Amazon but not sure which one to buy ? Can you send a link if possible ? I have a Yamaha outboard.

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

Hey D Damion! Marine water/fuel separators are universal (everything I've come across!). You'll just need to pick a kit to start with so you have the housing. Then each year you can replace the filter with whatever brand you'd like. We love the Tohatsu option because of the affordability and durability. There are even filter options that have clear bottoms to see if water is settling and to drain/sample fuel!

@davidfishferrell 2 жыл бұрын

Mallory is the best

@nasfishing4670 Ай бұрын

Question, Is it okay to use brass fitting on aluminum housing?

@tomspontoons Ай бұрын

I'm not a metallurgist...but from what I've seen it shouldn't cause any trouble. The manufacturers of these filters ship brass fittings with the cast aluminum housings so I assume they think it'll be okay. Everything we do is 100% freshwater up here in Michigan so we don't get the extreme reactions and corrosion issues. It may be different in saltwater or marinas where there's high electrolysis.

@jeremiahgraf1702 Жыл бұрын

I have a transom fuel tank, so does it matter how high it should be mounted.

@tomspontoons Жыл бұрын

I would go for a lower mount IF POSSIBLE. However, some height increase will help prevent fuel flow when changing the filter. A mechanic explained it to me like this: the flow of fuel has to go straight up the pick up, and that’s never a problem. Adding some vertical climb isn’t going to be an issue if there are no kinks or pinches in the hose. Fuel pumps are stronger than we think.

@darrengillesdarrengilles8336 9 ай бұрын

I would only install the separators that have the viewing glass then you know for sure your filter is still working and not full, with the filter in this video it could be full of water allowing water to get to your motor making this device a crapshoot.

@tomspontoons 9 ай бұрын

I totally get that, and those viewing glass styles are great!! However, if checked seasonally it’s unlikely that there will be that much water in the fuel to where it could fill unless there’s a bigger problem, and at that point it might be too late even with the viewing option.

@nathanielnewsome9198 9 ай бұрын

Does it need to be mounted above the fuel tank or can it be mounted lower

@tomspontoons 9 ай бұрын

I’ve mounted most of them just above the fuel tank and had zero issues, including my tritoon with the 200hp. If able to keep it level or lower it may be less work on the fuel pump, but once a good prime is started it shouldn’t be much effort at all for the motor!!

@bobloranger372 10 ай бұрын

can i put 1 inlet and 2nd outlet for a kicker motor

@tomspontoons 10 ай бұрын

Yes. I will be doing exactly that on a fishing boat I’m building right now. Each will have their own primer bulb between the filter and engine.

@nathanielnewsome9198 10 ай бұрын

Will these work on a 2 stroke outboard as well

@tomspontoons 10 ай бұрын

Yes they will!!

@summerpinder9538 2 ай бұрын

What happens if you put both lines on both sides like 1 going in and right next to it going out? Will that make a difference

@summerpinder9538 2 ай бұрын

Like do the lines have to be on the opposite side of each other?

@tomspontoons 2 ай бұрын

You can use one side only just fine. There’s an inlet and outlet on each side. Designed to be convenient for whatever setup you need!!

@southernliprippers327 2 ай бұрын

Okay cause I’ve been having fuel issues on my 2000 90hp Yamaha 2stroke and I’ve replaced the carbs fuel line fuel pump and still having fuel problems

@southernliprippers327 2 ай бұрын

@@tomspontoons would you happen to know off the top of your head any other fuel problems I could be having

@tomspontoons 2 ай бұрын

@@southernliprippers327 What type of tank are you running? The permanent mount in the boat or a removable red fuel tank? You could have a bad pickup in your tank, especially if it's an older permanent mount. I have a video showing that replacement. I would try running it on a removable tank if you haven't yet to rule that out.

@TERRYSMITH-vu6er 5 ай бұрын

can i seen you a picture of the one i did to see if it is wrong or right

@tomspontoons 5 ай бұрын

You should be all good if it looks like the one here, but happy to take a look if you’d be so kind as to contribute to our channel: www.buymeacoffee.com/tomstoons TomsPontoons@gmail.com

@SCDeerAddict 2 жыл бұрын

Where to mount filter on a suntracker where the fuel tank is mounted in motor pod? To mount to the rail would be about 2 ft above the tank, was thinking of mounting it level with the fuel tank inside the motor pod, but it may get wet, but the tank gets wet so maybe it doesnt matter..any thoughts?

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

As long as your filter is screwed in tight and your hose fittings are snugged down with clamps it can get wet. I haven’t had any trouble mounting them above the tank a foot or so. Otherwise you could fabricate a bracket to sit just above the transom without going up high to a rail.

@SCDeerAddict 2 жыл бұрын

@@tomspontoons Thanks for replying. Installed it today inside motor pod, will keep an eye on it. Thanks

@tomspontoons 2 жыл бұрын

@@SCDeerAddict You’re welcome!

@jmatarazzo18 2 ай бұрын

@@SCDeerAddicthow has this worked out for you? I’m looking at doing the same thing on mine.

@hunterk3880 Жыл бұрын

Does it matter what kind you get? Does size matter

@tomspontoons Жыл бұрын

I've installed lots of different brands and they've all worked well. The size tends to be universal from what I've seen to where you can order pretty much any brand of replacement water/fuel separator filter and it'll work with any housing.

@FlyingPaintMonkey Ай бұрын

I add a water fuel separator on my tone with Mercury 115 command thrust and it bogs the motor down it Rough idle. New 91 octane fuel. Have you heard of anything like that?

@tomspontoons Ай бұрын

Did you pre-fill the canister? And make sure your fittings are all snug so no air can get in. It shouldn’t cause any issues. Sounds like it’s not pulling enough fuel though.

@FlyingPaintMonkey Ай бұрын

@@tomspontoons yes pre filled the filter, everything is tight, flow is right , It’ll run but it acts like it’s running out of gas. I bypassed it just to verify the filter was my problem and it ran great. The only thing I can think of is if its mounted to high.?.? u tuber was saying the Mercury didn’t recommend water filter but I have found anything that verify that.

@tomspontoons Ай бұрын

@@FlyingPaintMonkey I've never had an issue mounting a filter above the tank on a pontoon. I agree that it would be best to have it below to allow gravity to help, but hasn't been a problem for me. And the mechanics at the local marina have told me over and over that the new EFI motors can pull fuel no problem as they have multiple fuel pumps in the fuel system. Also, Merc doesn't mind a water/fuel separator at all. In fact I imagine they'd promote the use of them to remove potential issues. Heck, Tohatsu used to only validate warranty if there was one installed with a new motor!!! Mercury does not call for a primer bulb for their 75 hp and up. They are trying to avoid any fuel flow issues or places for loss of vacuum. You could try mounting your filter lower to see if that helps. Or remove your primer bulb if you have that in addition to the filter.

@FlyingPaintMonkey Ай бұрын

I ratchet strapped a gas can to the back of the boat and ran the fuel line off the gas can and it runs great. So now I’m thinking I have a gas tank problem. “ plastic transom tank” so I ordered a new asm valve ??? so maybe that will help. When In doubt throw money at it. Lol

@tomspontoons Ай бұрын

@@FlyingPaintMonkey Last I heard those ASM valves cause nothing but trouble. Hopefully the new one will help, otherwise if your tank is newer and meets current EPA standards you should be able to omit it altogether.

@damodoesall6240 7 ай бұрын

Why put it in a hard to get to spot?, shift it right slightly and it would be real easy to get to.

@tomspontoons 7 ай бұрын

Once the fill hose was installed in place the filter was easy to access. It looked terribly in the way with it not attached to the fill neck on the railing.

@rambow58 2 ай бұрын

April 25th,2024

@tomspontoons 2 ай бұрын

Nice!! Thanks for watching and commenting!

@joshamsler943 7 ай бұрын

I do not recommend white teflon tape where petroleum is involved 🤦🏼‍♂️

@tomspontoons 7 ай бұрын

Seems like a lot of mixed opinions about Teflon tapes and gasoline. Much like most topics these days. I’ve never had an issue with it in all my years of owning boats…although I haven’t used white Teflon tape in quite some time now.