Hi Norma, I revisited the issue with a new video! Hit the subscribe and notification button so that when it out you’ll know! It will be about water mixable oils and just using water, and I’ll do a tutorial at the same time!

My pleasure Katalin, the only thing is that I found W&N Artisan a little stiff compared to others!

Fred thank you very much !! I did a painting this medium recently on my Facebook page: Facebook.com/gebahiartworks. In the video tab you’ll find the video and many others!! Enjoy and thanks for watching!!

My pleasure!!

Amanda Buisson thank you for watching!!!

That’s somewhat true! Yes, water to clean the brushes, but also water as the medium. The issue I was having was that the painting stayed tacky for a long time! I believe the reason being was that too much water was being mixed in my paint and that caused the water to stay trapped and not evaporating fast enough or thoroughly. I’ve revisited this by starting my initial stage in thin layer and letting it dry thoroughly before going to the next stage using less water with the paint, although you don’t have to use water with each subsequent layers, you can use as you stated WM linseed OIL or dryers for that matter! The point being that water can be used throughout the painting process but in a limited amounts. If you want to move the paint easily you can use the WM Linseed oil instead! Just don’t mix the two together, it’s a mistake I made in the beginning. That’s why I partially agree with your statement ! I’ve experimented a little more and came to this conclusion, I’ll eventually do another video using Cobra WMO .

@@GebahiArtworks rangestoreswidneschesuk

@@GebahiArtworks I used water mixable oils a long time ago and used water as the medium, it took nearly two weeks for the painting to dry, so if I try them again, I will definitely try with the mediums.

I stopped using water and use Water Mixable Thinner now instead and have encountered no problems. It's much better this way.

I’ve also seen gel medium recommended. I’m gonna try that.

It’s my pleasure, thank you for watching my videos!!

I’ve had no problem with it so far, I have paintings that were done over 5 years ago with no issues! And the paint stick to the surface nicely. I tested one old painting by scratching it to see if paint would come off, and nothing!

kunal Kulkarni you’re very wet!!!

You’re very welcome!!

My pleasure Michael, thank you for watching!!

Judy Mason anytime!!!

Thank you very much Phyllis, I have a new water mixable oil tutorial coming out very soon!

@@GebahiArtworks I’ll be looking forward to seeing them!

That’s what I hear, but I just use dawn soap still !!

@@GebahiArtworks I clean my brushes first with vegetable oil (a drying oil like safflower or walnut is best0--works like a charm. Then you can finish with dish soap, Murphy's, or masters.

@@tba1879 thank you!!!

@@GebahiArtworks Well they use Dawn to release the oil on bird's feathers after an oil spill. So if it works for environmentalists it must be good.

@@maggiedoor6093 that’s what I use to clean all my brushes!

My pleasure Lynda, thank you for your support!!!

Thank you very much Dawn, cheers!!!

Hello neighbor!! Thank you for watching!!

TheSwalk3r thank you!! I keep messing with it, and got some suggestions from another poster which I’m trying to see if it resolves the problem !

Indeed, I loved them right away, even without water they applied smoothly!

My pleasure, thank you!!

Thank you! I changed the way I paint with water mixable oils, so I haven’t had that problem anymore. Too much water mixed into the paint was the problem!

Daniela Redi-Pessin yes you can as long as you stay with the traditional oil subsequently! I believe they do sell a water mixable walnut oil medium, I’m almost sure! In that case you can use water based oil all the way through.

yes, you can block in with water miscible oils and then use regular oil paint for the subsequent layers.

Cross-contamination? You can use the water soluble oils with traditional oils if you so desire. That is the beauty of them! No such thing as cross-contamination.

@@TheJudeJane The cross contamination I was speaking of was between acrylics and oils and you should NOT use the same brushes with both Nor any water based paints with oil based mediums. Do you see where I said different mediums? Sorry to be confusing.

mjpete27 The beauty of water soluble oils is that you can indeed use water-based paint with them. You can use acrylic, watercolor, etc. I have a great book written by Sean Dye. Of course, if you use more than 30% traditional oils with them, you no longer have a water soluble painting.

Jude Jane Yes, you can use WS Oils on top of any water based medium. NEVER put an oil based medium under acrylics as this will seal off the oil paints and they will never dry! Oil paints ALL KINDS dry by oxidation if they do not dry before a seal coat, no matter the medium, it will mold and rot! Just a real world application that can lead even seasoned artists astray! But hey, if you don’t care how long your Art lasts do whatever you want!

mjpete27 Thank you for your comment, but you are preaching to the choir as I studied painting at the Pennsylvania Academy of the Fine Arts and have been painting professionally for over 40 years.

I’m not too fond of MDO because of moisture concerns over the long run! I prefer using 1/4” Birch instead, I would put 2 coats of Kilz2, now I use Kilz3 primer/sealer, it works great for both acrylics and oils! It has great adhesion and stain blocking power. I’m currently using canvases only because of convenience. Wood is cheaper and better but just time consuming to prep!

Thank you Jay!! If you mix with Linseed oil, make sure it’s water mixable Linseed oil, and yes, you can use Dawn soap to clean up at the end of your painting session!

Yes they do!! Definitely!

Thank you!! More linseed to oil!

Your right Roger, it is stick and a little too thick for my taste! I no longer use it. I found that dawn soap works real well!

@@GebahiArtworks dawn soap?

@@triggerfish999 to clean your brushes at the end of your session!

Thank you !! It depends on the surface you’re painting on, if wood then yes, I do use shellac or even kilz 3 that you find at the big box store! If on canvas and I want it a little smoother, then I use Gesso, 1-2 coats. And I don’t sand between coats, just re-apply directly over the first coat if necessary. Buy the professional gesso not a cheap one if your budget allows, it make a difference! I’ve never used WN painting medium before, and I wouldn’t use it with water mixable oils either, it’s for traditional oils! If you’re going to use any kind of medium with water mixable oils, make sure it’s says water mixable medium, ARTISAN is WN’s water mixable line, so any medium with the name ARTISAN on it is made for water mixable oils of any brand. There are other water mixable brands as well, just make sure it’s for water mixable oils. As for varnishing, I use Gamvar by Gamblin, you can apply when the painting is touch dry. So make sure you touch different spots to make sure no paint is lifting! You can find more info on Gamvar via Google search, but I’ve come to love it! Otherwise WN damar varnish can be used when fully dry. You can make your own painting medium by mixing odorless mineral spirits and linseed oil in a 1:1 ratio! Or even a 2part mineral spirits to 1 part linseed oil if you want the painting to dry quicker!

For me they were a bit sticky and stiff to work with!

I have disposable containers such as gallon jugs that I cut in half and then pour the dirty water in another container with a lid and discard! Some flush it down the sink.

these are marketed as non-toxic. water is the solvent. even the oil is linseed. it's been modified to rinse with just water. some Artisans are genuine cadmiums. the amount going down the drain is miniscule when you brush out the extra paint before rinsing and or washing with soapy water. I believe these water mixable are the paints of the future as more people become conscious of their impact on the environment.

Thank you Rim!! For the first layer I just use a little water to thin the paint. For all other layers you should use water mixable linseed oil !

@@GebahiArtworks thank you!

Everyone has a personal preference, just because I had issues doesn’t mean everyone else does! Beside, I’ve been able to work through the issue, I didn’t just give up!

Good question, if you mix traditional oils and water mixable oils, if you put more than 20% by volume of traditional to water mixable oils than its no longer water mixable! But if you want to add your water mixables to traditional oils, there’s no problem, everything will be good. Just can’t do the opposite if you’re adding more than 20%.

I also had this problem of the painting remaining sticky for a while after it was completed! I believe it’s because too much water was used to dilute the paint, use less water to dilute the paint. There’s nothing you can do to remedy that. The brand I prefer as of now is Cobra water mixable oils, they mix well with water! Also, your first layer should be thin and should be almost dry to dry. If you use too much medium then the bottom layer will lift! Remember that the subsequent layers have to be thicker than the base layer. And if you are glazing make sure the paint is dry before applying, otherwise your paint will crack in the long run.

Clean the brush with Dawn Soap and water when finished with a session! Otherwise if you’re not done painting and cleaning your brush just make sure the brush is not too damp, the paint will not fully come off and it’s ok, as long as you clean the brush good enough!

Thank you, found out the hard way, I don’t use it anymore!

Thank you Donna, yes, absolutely you can paint water mixable oils over acrylics! Just make sure the acrylic layer is dry!

I also have a video on oils over acrylics!

Was the titanium white also artisan? Otherwise it could be you used too much water! I’ve had problems with WMO staying tacky for a while after finishing a painting. And a lot of it is because water stays trapped under the oil and not evaporating fully as it should.

@@GebahiArtworks Aha! that makes sense! Thank you!

Hello Maren, I haven’t tried glassine, I’ll have to look that up, never heard of it!

@@GebahiArtworks I use the sheets of heavy duty garden plastic (the stuff that's slightly opaque, very thick and sturdy) because if it happens to press against the paint film, it doesn't conform to the hills and valleys, and even when shipping a touch dry painting overseas, it doesn't stick like bubble wrap or paper.

Thank you very much, glad you found me!! You can dispose the dirty rags and such in the garbage, but the water I pour in a container and in the trash! Or you can bring it to the solid waste authority.

@@GebahiArtworksLooking forward to watching more of your videos. Thank you very much!

Eleonore Gratz I’m pretty sure you just use some soap with it, not 100% thought so take it with a grain of salt

Yes, but you need to use the specific Linseed oil for the water mixable paints.

You actually can. It just depends on how high the ratio of paint to linseed is. I found that the paint acts a little like a solvent on the oil and it washes out super easy. I left brushes out over night the washed them under a tap and they’re brand new.

Thank you very much for that tip, I’ll give it a try!!

Hi, good question but it’s either you want visible brush strokes or you want smooth, can’t really have both! If you want brush stroke to remain then use thicker paint, load your brush well without medium if possible, or very little. For smooth finish use more water mixable Linseed oil or water mixable Stand oil, that will take out all the strokes! I hope that answered your question.

thank you so much! What if I want the paint also dry quickly? Is liquin ok for water mixable oils? Or I have to use something else? Like Gamblin gel?@@GebahiArtworks

@@iamafollowerofChristArtisan make their own retarder. I wouldn’t imagine liquin would mix… but I could be wrong.

Hi Donna, so if I’m understanding you correctly, you used water mixable oils on top of traditional oils? If the traditional oil was dry and you painted with water mixable oils on top of it, then yes it’s fine! But if it were the reverse then I’d be weary.

Thank you Brook, I appreciate it!!!

Karo Lilova you can throw them away without worrying!

@@GebahiArtworks Thanks!

Anytime, thank you for watching!!!

I’ve had similar things happen before, make sure you clean the brush well and the water out. If water is still on your brush while adding other mediums you’ll get some undesired effects!

You have to use WMO linseed oil with water mixables, you can’t use traditional linseed oils! Artisan is Winsor&Newton’s water mixable oil brand. There are others out there but Winsor&Newton is the most accessible one!

No need for special soap, I use Dawn liquid soap in the palm of my hand and clean my brushes that way!

@@GebahiArtworks thank you so much i got my water mixable oil colors today and I can't wait to try them! And your video is definitely a big help!💕

Soux Ellis I started using Parchment paper, or wax paper! It better.

Cheers Marian!!

Good question, yes you can!

Hi Lorna, if you use water as a thinner for the initial layer it will dry faster than water mixable thinners!! For the subsequent layers you can use the water mixable medium, such as water mixable linseed oil for the fat!

do you know if artisan thinner will mix well with the Artisan linseed? I tried mixing with the Artisan painting medium and it just separated @@GebahiArtworks

@@LadySaxPlayerLDee good question, after what I experienced, perhaps no, I would keep them separated and just dip in each one and then to the paint! In traditional oils yes, I mix thinner and linseed oils together.

Denise Shaw hi, try using pliers, or a heat source, such as the top of a stove , not too close of course, and then try to open it with pliers if you have a pair! Hope this helps.

@@GebahiArtworks tried pliers but mine dont open wide enough to take hold..the top is just turning around clicking but wont budge..so annoyed

Denise Shaw , if you know anyone with tools, ask them for channel lock pliers, or you can get them cheap at Home Depot. It’s because the clear plastic inside the cap is detached! You need something that can clamp and grip both together and twist open ! Otherwise it will continue to just spin without opening. Get a pair of pliers big enough or channel lock pliers from someone or Home Depot!

I find I have to clean the threads of the bottle with a damp towel before recapping. Also keep the bottles upright.

I would just go with the kitchen wax paper! Otherwise when the client receives the painting you’ll create more work for them because it’ll look flat and they’d have to wipe it away!

Gebahi Artworks I’m just getting back into the water miscible oils, and will be trying my usual favorite, a drying medium, for starters. Keeping some notes on various mediums for my own use (just ordered artisan stand oil) and probably fiddling around with a little bit of water or alcohol, just for fun. About waxing the surface, my recent poking around learning about cold wax’s properties gives me the idea that, since it is truly related to shoe polish, buffing the surface might result in a satin sheen. I’m keen to experiment with it in numerous applications! . It is most enjoyable to discover a new element for painting! Thanks for the food for thought! Cheers!

P. Wulfson I do believe there’s a matte varnish for oils! You can experiment mixing Gamvar gloss varnish and some Gamvar matte varnish to various proportions to get that same satin finish without the fuss of using cold wax !

You can use water but not recommended throughout the painting process, only to clean your brush! You can get water mixable linseed oil to help spread the paint around!

Charles Smart thank you, I did miss that, and you’re right, it has to be water mixable linseed oil !! Thank you for that correction.

Charles Smart thank you, I did miss that on the label.

What's to frigging point. If you have to have all the same crap what are you gaining. Nothing that's what. Instead of water just use a little gasoline to clean brushes or drop them in Murphys oil soap. Cleans the paint out and conditions brushes. if you already have all your product why start all over again. It's just a money grab. Most of the products we use for oil painting are organic anyway. If you can't stand turpentine I guess you can't walk through a forest.

@@phillipstroll7385 turpentine is toxic. And organic doesn’t mean harmless.

Notyur Bizniz thank you!

@@GebahiArtworks you're welcome. I just found that out recently.

You can use the water as thinner as well for the first layer, it dries faster than water soluble thinner! For the subsequent layers you can use less and less water, or none at all, and instead use water mixable linseed oil. That’s my updated method of using water mixable oils.

Thank you!! I don’t sand between coats! I lightly sand the last coat with 180grit sandpaper. When I use kilz2 water based sealer/primer, I put on 2 coats. You can put 3 if you want but not necessary. First coat I put on I turn the board vertical, 2nd coat I turn the board horizontal for good coverage.

@@GebahiArtworks , hate to be so inquisitive but I've been wanting to cut and prep my own panels for some time but wasn't sure as to how to prep them. Any particular type of wood panel (thickness ), what about Masonite, I've heard yea and nay (because of treatment). Do you sand the panel before prepping?

Mickey Jackson no worries! You can’t go wrong with a Birch plywood, you can find them at any big box stores. I used to buy them in sheets of 1/4” thick,, 4’x 8’ and then cut them up at home to sizes! If you can’t do that then you can find them pre-cut online, just Google search birch wood art panels! Once I cut them down I just sand the edges. Then I apply gesso (3 coats at least!) or Kilz2 water based sealer/primer (my preferred choice, 2coats!) and then I would do one coat on the back so that the panel doesn’t warp with time!! Or I would would do 2 coats of Kilz2 in the front and Spray Shellac on the back, up to you! Tempered Masonite is fine too, nothing wrong with it, you can actually cut Masonite panels with a good box cutter! Just do 2-3 passes on front and back and snap it, there are videos on KZfaq on the subject, Hope this helps, let me know!!

Mark Tuck thank you!! Winsor&Newton are pretty consistent in their quality, the only thing about their Artisan water mixable oils is that it’s a little stiffer than others. So I would mix a little water mixable linseed oil to the mix, small amounts to give the paints a butter consistency!

@@GebahiArtworks that's awesome advice! thank you. now i know exactly what to buy.

Acrylic is a water based medium that uses only water as a vehicle and for cleaning, and it dries quickly and is permanent when dry! And it’s made of resin binders. Water mixable oils on the other hand is made with linseed oil as a medium which requires a solvent base medium to clean and/ or to thin, but in this case, it’s water mixable, meaning that water can be used to clean your brush or use as a thinner. There’s a chemistry behind all this that makes it possible, otherwise obviously, water and oil don’t mix. You can use water mixable oils in the same way as traditional oil paints, but if you do, than it won’t be able to clean with water anymore! And you must use water mixable mediums in conjunction with water mixable oils if you want to use water to clean your brushes. Hope this helped and not to confusing!

I’ve done that in the past, especially with canvas panels! But the problem with water mixable oils is that it stays tacky for a long time!

Mickey Jackson correct !!

Thank you for the info!!

@@GebahiArtworks no problem, Its more complicated than i described it but tbh i dont 100% understand it either to the shame of my chemistry teacher lol

@@rinkerd3575 Lol!!

That’s what you’re supposed to use with water mixable oils, not traditional linseed oils!

It’s possible, but new to the art world in relation to its discovery. Just like in Europe, certain cars were in the market decades ahead of the US!

Agree!

Yes, especially if thinned down too much!

Thank you very much for the info!!!

@GebahiArtworks you are very welcome. Another tip is if you still have regular oil paint, you can transform them into water mixable oil by mixing them with Schmincke Medium W . 1 part medium, 2 part paint, mix them well, and you have wamo oil paint. It can be mixed like other water mixable paints. And one more. You can save your leftover wamo ( or regular) oil paint by putting them into little airtight jars and smooth the surfaces. Pour very cold water on them, not icy, to cover the paint. When you want to use it, just discard the water and let the surface dry or hit it with a blow dryer for a minute. Doesn't have to be fully dried. No more wasted oil paint. If the leftover too dirty, just collect them separately as cool, warm, or grey bottle and follow the water treatment above. I don't throw away any paint, it isn't good for the environment or my wallet.

@@LightshamanaDhyana thank you!! I knew about the additives you can add to traditional oils to make them WMO, saw it Jerry’s Artarama, plus you can put your oils in the freezer to conserve them a for a while, then let it thaw before using, which only takes few minutes!

@GebahiArtworks thank you, I have little aversion to put paint with food. Even it is triple packed. I just thought you can tell these on your channel for others to benefit. Happy painting.

@@LightshamanaDhyana thank you!!!

I personally use water! It also depends on the brand, such as Cobra and Duo Aqua, they both do well with just water. Others, I use water just to clean!

@@GebahiArtworks how about Windsor and Newton does it work well with water?

@@ESPOSOMIAA. it works but be careful how much water is on your brush, the paint come out grainy to some extent, I would probably use a little water mixable linseed oil instead! Or a water mixable painting medium which I think they sell.

I only got a normal linseed. Is it fine?

@@ESPOSOMIAA. no, not recommended with water mixable oils, unless you use it in the traditional way, meaning, you won’t use water to clean up, instead you have to mineral spirits to clean up! Which defeats the purpose, so use water mixable linseed oil!

Mickey Jackson hi Mickey, you can use water as your medium, only difference is that it will dry faster than thinner! The only thing is that you don’t want to use too much of it. Also yes, water is used for clean up! Water is basically your thinner. As you paint subsequent layers use less of it, kind of like when you use odorless mineral spirits, you’ll use less of it as you build up the layers!

Thanks for the reply, very helpful. A question about prepping the wood .... after all the shellac is put on the back and front, then you add the two layers of kilt to the front, is there any "sanding" involved between the layer(s) of kiltz ?

I would not use water as medium... It's quite difficult to use and you'll lose your pigment. Use water mix able linseed oil or something else. Use the water plus soap only for clean up.

Darkreverie that’s exactly right according to Mike’s video from Jerry’s Artarama: 1. water for cleaning only 2. Use WM mediums for painting, 3. You can mix usage of WMO and regular oils but you will need to use regular (not WM) mediums to paint with and you will not be able to clean your brushes with water only but will need to use regular solvent. After paint has dried you can go back and forth using WMO and regular oils. But never use water as a medium to thin and paint with. Use water and soap to clean brushes only.

Eleonore Gratz make sure the linseed oil is water mixable linseed oil, and not the regular linseed oil!!

I don’t use any liquid white or clear! That style of painting is associated with Bob Ross, and there’s nothing wrong with that but it’s not really necessary. You can just add medium to your paint and have the same effect.

@@GebahiArtworks thank you!

Yes!

jenn loh thank you!!

SuperFrasman thank you!!

Yes, but I over came the problem by using less water this time!

The only solvents to be used with WMO should be water mixable solvents, not traditional solvents! The difference is that WMO are cleaned with water as opposed to solvents like turpentine or odorless mineral spirits which both emit harmful vapors. If solvents are truly a problem then switch to acrylics!

As for mixing other mediums with oils, you shouldn’t mix more then 10% by volume!

Thank you!!

Cocoanut oil also works well, and then a final rinse w soapy water. Works on hair as well.

If you use strictly water as your medium to dilute and spread the paint, I would make sure each layer dries thoroughly, otherwise what I found was that the paint remains tacky for a long time. They do sell water mixable drying agents and thinners! If you use drying agents your painting should be dry to touch in approximately 24hours. Hope this answers your question, let me know!

Betty Hale hi, not really! Although instead of using regular Gesso, I use Kilz2 water based sealer/blocker/primer! You can buy that at Lowe’s or Home Depot. I give it 3 coats in front and once in the back so that it reduces warping.

Gesso is a surface preparation for acrylics and oil paints, there are oil primers that prepares your canvas for oil paint only. Most Gesso is water based and after it drys it provides a sealed surface for just about any medium! Good Luck and keep working!

Thank you!

Lol, the problem I have with Holbeins line up is that it does give you the lightfastness ratings, although a good painting line, the info is kind of obscured!

Lol, thank you Phyllis!!!

No worries, Lol !!

That’s what I keep hearing, I never heard a complaint! I almost bought a set but the price was a bit high and at the same time I couldn’t find the lightfastness of the paints at the time. It was a long time ago, so I went with Cobra!

@@GebahiArtworks I would give them a try!

Thank you for the tip!!

Julie Peck don’t be intimidated! You actually picked a great brand by choosing Cobra water mixable oils. Cobra so far is a the only I feel can be painted with only water, aside from Holbein. The only downside to water mixable oils is that for some reason it stays tacky for a while!! Never understood why. The trick is this: use only water to clean your brush or thin your paint, and wipe your brush down! For the subsequent layers use water mixable linseed oil or no oils at all. If you paint alla prima (one sitting) then use water mixable linseed oil as your medium to move the paint around. If you want to stick to acrylics, I recommend you try Golden Open Acrylics, feels like oils, and acts like oil, but without e inconvenience! I have a video with Golden Open Acrylic.

Thank you so very much!! I had thought about the Open Acrylic’s but after I started looking into them more I started hearing that yes they do stay open longer than the usual but that they but that it isn’t really that much difference between them and they definitely wouldn’t stay open like oils. So after hearing that I kinda just was like well I’m gonna look into something else. But if you truly think they are open for a good amount of time and worth trying out , then I guess I’ll give them a try!

Julie Peck I love in Florida, and they stayed open for hours!!! If I covered them, they stay open for days!

Awesome! Thank you so very much 😊

I ended up by doing that but still had to find out why it stayed tacky for so long! I believe I know now, it’s by having water still on my bristles and mixing a medium as well and that caused the water to be trapped and not evaporating fast enough causing the stickiness!

@@GebahiArtworks ...can I ask you a question? I have heard about a medium that changes regular oil paint to water soluble. Do you know anything about that?

@@pikeevans8559 yes, it’s sold by Weber, and you can find it at Michael’s and also at Jerry’s Artarama! It’s basically just the additive that’s used in water mixable oils that makes it able to clean up with water. I’ve never used it myself but that’s what it is. You can basically convert all your traditional oil paints you have right now into water mixable oils!

@@GebahiArtworks I have already ordered some....thank you.

@@GebahiArtworks ....here is a tip for you. If you use really hot tap water, and Dawn dish washing liquid...a good amount, you can clean an oil paint brush very well. I have done that for years. Just to make sure my brushes stay soft, I then dip them in motor oil and work it into the ferrule which is an old time sign painter's trick to keep their lettering brushes soft. I just happen to be an old time sign painter....LOL

Thanks for the info!

Thank you Estelle, it was hard to control with 2 young children and small house!

I reverted back to traditional oils!

@@GebahiArtworks Oh really, I am undecided between using the water mixable or just going straight into traditional oils without solvents (for the thinner for underpainting I found a thinner from Sennelier green). What made you revert back to traditional?

@@RoseGoldShimmer good question! It was the fact that the painting stayed tacky for a long time after it was finished. I think I know why now though, I believe I was leaving my brush too damp and the water was getting trap and not evaporating as the oils were oxidizingat a slower rate! So the best thing to do here is to use a water mixable thinner for your initial wash or even water(dries faster!), and then use water mixable Linseed oil as your medium to thin or move around the paint for your subsequent layers. Cobra, Aqua Duo, and Lukas Berlin were pretty good paints! Winsor and Newton was a little too stiff for my taste.

@@GebahiArtworks Thanks! That would make sense, with having too damp of a brush. I first saw a video from Cobra and they were using water in their demo, but after reading about tackiness and drying issues (either takes too long or it dries too fast), if I go with WMO's I won't use water but a thinner instead. I'll just leave water for cleaning brushes and rinsing between paint applications (and due to your experience, making sure to dry them out as much as possible with a paper towel).

​@@RoseGoldShimmerActually once started using wmo linseed oil...its same like oils plus easy to wash brushes

I didn’t use traditional linseed oil, I used Artisan linseed oil!

Lol, looking back, it kinda does!

Thank you, found out the hard way! But now I use water just for the wash since it evaporates faster, I don’t use hardly any on the subsequent layers.

I used artisan water mixable linseed oil with artisan water mixable thinner, mixtes them together! And it wasn’t a great idea. I didn’t use any traditional oil mediums with the water mixable ! But now I don’t use any mediums, just water and less of it with each subsequent layers!

@@GebahiArtworks oh ok. Just saying cuz in the video you showed that bottles. Ty for the video! Very useful!

@@danielmangetsu1545 no worries! It was a used linseed oil bottle I had, so I used it to put my mixture in it!