Xiaomi has never claimed that their upcoming car model can achieve a range of 1200 km. If you've watched their launch event, they only mentioned that their platform theoretically allows for a maximum battery capacity of 150 kWh, which is equivalent to a 1200 km range. However, this 1200 km figure is purely hypothetical. Specifically for the Su7 model, it currently offers versions with a 73.6 kWh battery providing a range of 668 km and a 101 kWh battery offering an 800 km range. Moreover, these are figures for the single-motor version; if it's the dual-motor version, the range would be reduced to 628 km and 750 km. Regarding the motor, the mentioned 35,000 RPM is only a peak value obtained in a lab setting without considering durability, and it has never been a focal point of Xiaomi's promotion. For the upcoming car models, Xiaomi provides options with 27,200 RPM, 578 PS (referred to as v8s, expected to launch in 2025), and 21,000 RPM, 374 PS (referred to as v6s, expected to launch this year). These figures sound much more reasonable. I bet they haven't actually watched Xiaomi's launch event or reviewed official posters and content. Instead, they seem to rely on exaggerated rumors for attention. If you have watched the event, you wouldn't confuse these imaginary data with production cars; it's quite funny. The Su7 has already been approved by China's Ministry of Industry and Information Technology (MIIT). MIIT approval is a stringent criterion in China, and all approved models inevitably go into production because it signifies passing range tests, collision tests, compliance with emission regulations, and high costs-things that concept cars don't need to bother with. Xiaomi Su7's launch in 2024 is a 100% certainty. If you're genuinely interested in Chinese EVs and not just venting on KZfaq, I recommend following a KZfaqr called "Telescope望远镜" He provides a lot of genuine information about cutting-edge Chinese EVs, caters to international audiences by explaining in English, and emphasizes key points with international cognitive differences.

Xiaomi SU7’s range is CLTC number and times that by 0.7 you will get EPA number. So it’s not 500mi but 350mi-ish for 74kWh which is doable with structural battery / CTB tech. Zeekr 007 has similar spec - 75kWh battery, ~340 converted EPA mi, starting price of $29k and is ALREADY SHIPPING. So yeah, it’s like 99% coming out but spec isn’t as ridiculous as you guys think it is.

Remember to quote and link your source "Telescope" when you use his material. Quite a number of factual errors, suggest to redo your show - or at least upload layover corrections! Next time maybe watch the Xiaomi press event?

so good to see mariah behind the controls. well-deserved break for ellis and adam. love you guys

Clarify: the 750 mi is for the to-be-released 150kwh from CATL (NIO already uses that), and the 500 mi one is the 101kwh that they are shipping this year. There would be a base version as well for ~75kwh. All those numbers are Chinese CLTC based numbers, which would be 15% higher than EAP or WLTP used in EU or US. So when they say 500 mi, they mean 420 mi in EAP in the US. (China has a different mix of highway and local). The thing is the price, the current consensus is $30k for 75kwh one, $35K for 100kwh one. no where near $55k, it's impossible to sell that price in China with the segment of customers they are targeting. The charging is legit as there are already car companies in China (Li auto) with the actual video showing 520kw peak charging for more than 7 minutes, but yeah you need specialized super charging stations as regulars are still 350 or 250kw. Either way, way more choices in China compared to US where the only viable option is Tesla and they haven't really refreshed for 4 years.

this car is officially released

Funny how the Xiaomi EV turned out to be quite real and a major game changer in the industry in all senses. They gave us what they promised. I love how Marcus is so set on not considering anything other than Tesla and Porche as competition or even good EVs. Maybe his friendship with Elon is a bit too, marketing related and don't wanna cut that up by saying anything good about Xiaomi I guess lol

If you're wondering about the crawfish fact, here's something to solve your confusion. When it says double the size, It probably means double in volume. Which means approximately cube root of 2 (or 1.26 ) times the original length. Because the length is directly proportional to the cube root of volume. So a 1cm crawfish could grow to 40cm by calculation.

Mariah being the producer is the highlight of this episode ❤

Hello boys, I just want to tell you, THE car was officailly released.🤗

The reason why the range looks very long is probably xiaomi uses China’s CLTC standard for testing, which tends to have higher numbers than epa. For example, on Tesla China’s website, the model s shown in the podcast has 715km/444 mi CLTC range instead of 405 in EPA

Mariah behind the controls! Love to see it

Honestly Maria is the perfect fit whenever one of the other five isn’t present. Her voice is a really nice switch up

Hey guys, one hint regarding the range of Chinese EV. Their range is measured using the NEDC (a test procedure). This procedure has a very low average speed and only requires very weak acceleration. Therefore the values for the electric consumption (and the resulting range) are really good. If you‘d test any European or American EV with this test cycle, the range based on that test cycle would also be much higher than the EPA range. To sum it up, if a EV is announced in China for the Chinese market, don’t compare that range figure to the EPA ranges you are used to, since they are based on to completely different test procedures. It would be like comparing you phones battery life in a processor benchmark test to the phones battery life playing on-device 30 fps video.

I love what Ellis did what his hair this week.

Nothing like them throwing to trivia and you see that there's still 14 minutes left in the podcast 😄 Loved it

If the crawfish was 1 cm across in its first iteration, it would actually be 320 metres, which is even more wild 😄

the "doubling" is probably doubling mass/volume. Any shape (if remaining to scale) only needs to grow about 26% in length in order to double in volume (a 1x1x1 cube has a volume of 1, whereas 1.26x1.26x1.26 is ~2). SO, that means if you multiply your length by 32.5, your volume will multiply by a bit over 34,000. Babies only around 3-5 mm after the larvae stage, so that means you only need to get to a length of 10-16 cm to be 34,000x bigger in total volume

Xiaomi SU7 range is in the standard of CLTC testing, for example Tesla Model Y long range awd on China's website states the range as 688km in CLTC standard which is equal to 427 miles.

20:10 Missed opportunity to call it Galaxy brain

nothing makes me more happier than a wvfrm podcast.

Thank you guys for the consistent uploads and dedication to covering such a variety of things. I’ve been having a horrible week and it’s so nice to have an hour of entertainment while also feeling the productivity of learning. ACTUALLY 2 HOURS!! Amazing

Apteras trick is efficency. If your car uses very little energy in total, you can make the battery small and light and still achieve range. And because the battery pack is so small, the solar panels can actually give you 40 Miles a day of range just from parking in the sun. That is more than the average person in the US drives a day. All of that on 100% free energy from the sun. And you can still plug it in if you want to. It's a brilliant vehicle concept if you think about it.

Mariah killed it as producer this week! Another great episode :)

Thanks for the shout out 🙌 so glad you're enjoying Volür!

34:12 You don't know about BYD, do you?

Great to see Mariah on the podcast!

This desk is more used in the music community, but the Output Platform desk is one of the best purchases I've made. The desk is super sturdy, looks dope to me, and has nice cable management. They also have all of their specs online for anyone who would want to save money and make their own.

29:39 There're some errors in the parameters of Xiaomi SU7. The 35000 RPM motor is still in the lab validation stage while the maximum speed of the V6s motor on the SU7 is 21000 rpm. And the range of 1200km is the upper limit of SU7's platform, I haven't heard any news about mass production.

Do your homework Say the source

Xiaomi SU7, you guys made a lot mistake and apparantly you did not make a decent homework and just blabla, shames on you!!!

With the whole CarPlay thing, I think one thing that wasn’t discussed that’s pretty important is Siri support. Siri’s not great at everything, but home (and car?) automation it does a pretty good job with. If I don’t need to use digital or even physical buttons because I can have Siri change climate, or heated seats, or even open the garage door with Home integration….sign me up!

Thanks for the added visuals during trivia! Super helpful to have all the answers on screen after the question has been asked to then go back to the others and have a think about them. Really helped me play along.

Happy New Year guys. Looking forward to all the great content in 2024

Sounds like there's an unused live mic picking up the audio from everyone else's mic...or the gain on everyone's mic is set too high, picking up the audio from the person next to each mic. Probably knew this already and couldn't resolve this if the mics are all going to 1 input from a mixer...then again even if each mic was on its own input, if the gain was recorded too high from jump, it would be hard to get rid of that... especially when people are talking simultaneously. Used to deal with this issue all the time.

You know it is kinda believable if Xiaomi announces an EV with 700miles of range. They were one of the first companies to come up with over 100w fast charging for smartphones smartphones , they probably have a decent knowledge and infrastructure for battery tech. They might pull off atleast 600miles imo

Tom scott’s “the greatest title sequence I’ve ever seen” is one of the most heartfelt tributes to media production i have ever seen. Hard to recommend enough!

great hosting Mariah! love those big ass headphones. also the audio was a little weird this ep

Understanding what you guys were talking about on the intro is always intriguing and confusing, like a movie starting with the final act.

I downloaded the arc browser after listening to this podcast. I absolutely love it omg... it helps me manage and stay organise so easilyy!!

That mattress topper sounded cool(hehe) then you shared the price...and then the fact that it's got a subscription model...and my money cowered back into my wallet.

Mariah brings a good energy to the show. I think it might just be that the normal 5 of you have like... the same pitch of voice. So having a different pitch is refreshing lol

Absolutely love this Podcast, I have been watching since just MKB and watched as it grew.And such Amazing people who have joined the team.Always Enjoy all of your Videos. ✌️💯

Thinking about your comments about car play and physical buttons. How interesting would it be for the manufacturer to put the equivalent of a stream deck button matrix so you can map functions to physical buttons? You could remap on your phone and the manufacturer could control the degree of "mod-ability" available. Might be a good middle ground.

This one was fun! 😂 happy new year guys! 🎉

A “change this smartphone setting” competition would make a fun studio video.

Hey @mkbhd just a correction on the bonus trivia question. You can actually find crayfish along the coast of South Africa in Cape Town. Cape Town is known for their crayfish industry. BTW love the podcast and loved seeing Mariah❤

I think it’s really interesting that car companies are on board with apple’s car play plans given the increasing importance of ux in the driving experience as a brand differentiator. If every car UX experience is the same, the manufacturer is losing a really important way to communicate their brand identity to their audience. Especially interested to see what traditional auto manufacturers do compared to newer ev companies, and how they integrate more niche features like performance suspension settings, seat massage settings, etc.

I always liked Ellis and Adam but Honestly Mariah especially this being her first time that I can remember. She's a natural and amazing at producing I hope she does it a lot more

RIP Tom Scott. He's still alive, but at least he gets to rest now.

The 1200km variant is coming later as per Xiaomi's press release. It seems the 100kWH is rated for 800km of range. So it is possible.

As a big blogger with more than a million followers, it is unacceptable that there will be information errors every time in the video, and the fact is that Su7 is not being delivered in a year or so, but has already begun to be delivered

My favorite tech of 2023 by far is the Meta Quest 3. It may even be my favorite tech of all time. It's my first VR headset and I'm absolutely blown away by the experience. It's not perfect and could use some minor improvements but overall I think it is amazing.

I love the completely random rabbit trail into crawdads for 5 minutes at the end. 😂

Love you guys!!!

I'm interested to know what you guys don't like about One UI have you guys tried it recently? I feel like there are so many settings you can really make it whatever you want. I don't miss any of the features of Nova Launcher.

I love listening to you guys. One thing about Andrew's cold bed problem: I'm pretty sure that it is not that it is colder due to the water having a lower temperature, it feels colder because water "steals" your body heat faster than a typical mattress material. (Aka, water has a larger heat conductivity)

Adam and Ellis look different today.

Aptera is supposedly legally classified as an "autocycle". Supposedly that gives it all the benefits of a motorcycle (reduced insurance cost, only a license plate in the rear, etc.) but none of the drawbacks (required to wear a helmet, safety?, etc.) And on the topic of shipping, at least they have production intent builds rolling off the line, with volume manufacturing of their "BinC" (Body in Carbon).

1:34:00 David, actually depending on where you are in the world depends on what is considered as a continent and therefore varies how many continents there are. If i remember correctly the range is something like 7-10. It's just like how some countries don't recognise another country as a separate country to some other country. So there is a varied number of countries in the world depending on where you're based too.

Shout out to Mariah for holding down the fort. Happy New Year!🎉

Marques with the subtle nod to the Katt Williams video... 😂😂😂

Hysterical that David thinks the only way we will know something (Apple Watch outcome) is if it is covered (late) on their Podcast 😂

Mariah was such a great addition. But damn the first shot of her was so funny - she looks so small in this big wide shot 😂 I am a fan of her!

We acting like Marques won't drop the "I've been using the S24 Ultra for a couple weeks now" on Jan 17 😂

would like to see qi 2 charging on the s24 line and just android phones in general this year

This a great one guys.

Thanks for sharing it. ✌️

Marques talking about s24 ultra leaks, we know damn well he has one in his pocket already

Simply a great episode!!

Reason I went for the S23+ over the S23U was the flatter screen. Hopefully the S24U really does go full flat. I'd also never buy a new car without Android Auto and Apple Carplay, or at the very least an Android Head Unit.

I love that you guys got the Rollie impression of Tom Scott on the climate town special episode just before he announced his retirement/break from videos.

Looking for a new turntable too, do you mind sharing which one you got?

Love what you do, guys! Kinda think it's bizarre to have 20 keyboards, Andrew.

Loved visual references being used! I don't know if that was Mariah or just a general change, but was lovely to be able to see what was being talked about.

Just watched the original response video from Telescope about the Xiaomi car, I know and totally understand you guys Americans don't get much exposure to Chinese or asian gadget/car brands which is totally not your fault, but I think you guys are just perpetuating the stereotype that Americans are just a bunch of ignorants with this comments. Like the lack of research is just surprising... from something big channel like MKBHD... like guys I expect more from you and the most mind-blowing thing is you guys don't even bother to give the original source of the video you're using, no caption or link at the description at all (29 Jan at 00:44 AM in GMT+7)... I can say I'm really disappointed with you all

Keep Mariah on the show, her voice makes a balance to the podcast. Great way to start the year 🎉

That was a long wait for the intro clip to manifest 😂 but worth it

Sound changed this time... 🤔.. thanks for another great episode!

Mariah legit sounds like stevie from Good Mythical morning. She could fill in for her on that show and NOBODY would notice. Solid first ep of the New Year!

I like my 8Sleep Pod. The issue I have is some reason I get odd sleep patterns. I think its attempts to auto adjust me during the night effect my natural ability to heat and cool myself. I do think the idea is neat but some areas might need work. I would like to see a way to turn the vibes on manually though as it would be neat to have that option for laying down and not just wake up. Also would be neat to see a sleep pod that allows for more control over heating zones. Like head shoulders knees and toes. This could help people who need heat in certain areas but can not handle the whole bed being that way. I could see that being a good selling point for another round of pods. I know I would consider the upgrade for more control over the heat zones. Something to consider about the heating and my odd sleep patterns is the body will naturally try and heat up to get rid of toxins which is why we get a fever. So my thoughts are by allowing the 8sleep to attempt to auto your sleep you can prevent yourself from getting to the temp your body would naturally recommended. As for the Corsair Desk, that thing is awesome and somewhat regret my SL desk purchase. All in all, Im still happy with my SL desk but Corsair has gone and made a Desk that does not just fit Video Game mode but work modes and more. I can now recommend a desk to more than just one niche.

Not able to see this episode on YT music in podcast section for some reason. Anyone else?

Regarding Xiaomi car range, it's stating range using the unrealistic CLTC standard which is about 35% higher than an EPA rating. So the Model 3 CLTC rating would be about 452 (333x1.35) miles. If the SU7 has slow acceleration I think it could reach 500 miles of range but it would be similar to a Model 3 driven gently.

Thanks for sharing all the information : ) FYI 39:14 Xiaomi announced that SU7 will have Apple Carplay. (Actually a large portion (maybe 50%+?) of users on Xiaomi's IOT platform are connecting with iOS devices).

Peak moment of the week. Thank you guys

Is it just me or does Mariah have a excellent NPR /podcast voice. More Mariah Please

Bed sounds cool but I will stick with my Tempurpedic. Love that mattress and sleep is awesome. No matter when I crash 😂

It’s weird how there is sometimes audio errors, can someone please fix it?

From what I've read, Android Automotive does allow the for the normal Apple CarPlay and Android Auto to be used if the manufacturer has it built in.

Andrew: What was the USB C to MagSafe adapter for Android phones that you linked to on a recent pod? Thanks

Shout out to the team for being able to say things like a week from today being Friday even though they shoot on a Wednesday

its a tech vid. at least get you stats checked and quote your sources in the description

I would loveeee another 1 hour 40 min episode!!!! more of this lads

As someone who was born and raised in south Louisiana, it was pretty neat hearing y’all talk about crawfish on the podcast as it’s a staple of Cajun food where I am from. Fun fact: We measure how much crawfish we eat by pounds and not by the number of crawfish consumed.

Love you guys. Watch in my MKBHD sweatshirt every week

I wish one of you guys watched the Xiaomi SU7 launch, they never said it will have a 1200km range. I think you should watch part of the launch if you can't watch all of it. This conversation was like just shooting in the water hoping to hit some fish.

This is crazy, I commented just a few days ago that it would be great to see new faces on the show, for example Mariah - and here she is! ✌️😀

I have a 12” iPad Pro, iPhone 15” Pro Max, Samsung Flip4, M3 MacBook Pro, AMD Threadripper 32 Core Workstation, and a ton of other smart devices, and I think Tesla Software is on par with ALL of those. I do not understand this “Tesla has worse software ideology,” do these people not use Tesla’s regularly? Everything about the software in my Model X Plaid is top notch, error/glitch free, smooth, has most of the apps I would use in a car (except maybe Waze?), is fast, plays steam games, and integrates perfectly with the car hardware, iPhone app, and android app. I truely would love to hear them explain *exactly* what makes android or iOS better than Tesla’s OS. Very confusing.

There's an odd reverb to Marques' voice this week. Edit: It's everyone! Just the most noticeable with Marques.

im happy we have so many mariah fans here. se shd be on the panel or appear more often atleast in studio