WWDC Predictions and the New Motorola Razr Plus

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WVFRM Podcast

WVFRM Podcast

Күн бұрын

A lot happened this week! Marques, Andrew, and David sit down to talk about everything from Ford using Tesla chargers to Apple's rumored headset that might be announced next week at WWDC. They also discuss the new Motorola Razr Plus phone and then answer a bunch of questions from Twitter before wrapping it all up with trivia. It's a long one but hopefully a fun one too!
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
00:46 Ford using Tesla chargers
10:06 Faraday Future announcement
16:14 Motorola Razr discussion
25:35 AI Camera
33:41 Trivia question
34:07 Ad break
34:10 WWDC Predictions
53:59 Trivia question
55:18 Ad break
55:21 Q&A
01:25:19 Trivia answers
01:30:46 Outro
Links:
Motorola Razr Plus: bit.ly/razrmkbhd
Electrek Faraday Future article: bit.ly/faradayelectrek
AI camera project: bit.ly/wvfrmaicam
Apple voice accessibility feature: apple.co/3WOfWaQ
Shop the merch:
shop.mkbhd.com
Check out the Motorola Razr+ at geni.us/W9aGq6
Twitters:
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Andrew: / andymanganelli
David: / durvidimel
Adam: / adamlukas17
Ellis: / ellisrovin
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TikTok:
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@ashwikraj8166
@ashwikraj8166 Жыл бұрын
Addition of David to the podcast has been the best thing to happen to the podcast
@alexisaguirre6349
@alexisaguirre6349 Жыл бұрын
Why do y’all comment this every week lmao
@christiancambron9185
@christiancambron9185 Жыл бұрын
Strongly agree
@afgh1408
@afgh1408 Жыл бұрын
Who's David
@stpr16
@stpr16 Жыл бұрын
​@@alexisaguirre6349 for likes lmao these niggas get validation from silly pixels on a slab of glass
@ovrsees
@ovrsees Жыл бұрын
@@alexisaguirre6349 David brings us so much joy 😄
@607AAG
@607AAG Жыл бұрын
I have found that WVFRM is what I look forward every week instead of the main channel. What a world!
@cutieapplepie
@cutieapplepie Жыл бұрын
I look forward to both, no need to knock down another channel
@gagnarork
@gagnarork Жыл бұрын
​@cutiepie he's not knocking on the other channel. He has a preference. how sensitive are you
@LurkerPatrol5
@LurkerPatrol5 Жыл бұрын
It's easy to keep in the background, it's a lot more relaxed, it has a lot more of the group in the show, and it seems more realistic than edited and produced, even if it is. I can see how you would prefer it honestly.
@pressplayhomie
@pressplayhomie Жыл бұрын
Marques’ reveal of his answer to the second trivia question is a top 5 podcast moment.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M Жыл бұрын
20:27 It's called the Razr 40 Ultra internationally. In the U.S. it's called the Razr+.
@hareeshkrishnaa5642
@hareeshkrishnaa5642 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. Similarly Razr 40 = Razr 2023
@anniewaye3513
@anniewaye3513 Жыл бұрын
Love Andrew's knowledge of the Eras Tour and Taylor's version 🫶💜
@FirestormX9
@FirestormX9 Жыл бұрын
can you please provide a timestamp for that bit???? I've been trying to find it! :( edit: nvm, found it!
@moonpie21012
@moonpie21012 Ай бұрын
Just in case anyone else wonders it’s just before the 1 hour mark😊
@kaptainkool101
@kaptainkool101 Жыл бұрын
I'm super hyped to see The Studio live reaction to WWDC. I always enjoy seeing the team get surprised at what they expect to happen, or new surprises that pop up.
@peppergina
@peppergina Жыл бұрын
It’s up!
@Autoblox0
@Autoblox0 Жыл бұрын
Dang the new razrs look way more modern compared to the old generation which looked funky and we'll see how the plus sells i guess. Tbh I might buy it but I'll wait for the Z flip 5 to come out because I would much rather prefer samsungs software and cameras but the design is very appealing on this one to the point that I might ditch buying the Z flip 5 if its not that much of a change.
@Ninnjette-
@Ninnjette- Жыл бұрын
My Razer plus comes in tomorrow, what I liked is the price at $1,000. The Z flip 5 I’m guessing will be about $400 to $500 more from what I’ve heard.
@AlexSanchezber
@AlexSanchezber Жыл бұрын
Love you guys! Good seeing you another week. Take care and take it easy fellas.
@chiesathio5916
@chiesathio5916 Жыл бұрын
This is probably peak wvfrm or i'm just that entertained. Banger episode as usual.
@naveendahal
@naveendahal Жыл бұрын
Comment until Adam and Ellis get their own mics. (On all WVFRM videos) - °001°
@brendandegal9980
@brendandegal9980 Жыл бұрын
This has become my favorite podcast in a while. I like that it’s infrequent because it feels more exciting when a new one comes out.
@mustafahaider2493
@mustafahaider2493 Жыл бұрын
Really interested to see how the Motorola Razr will fit a Tesla charging port
@maritocara
@maritocara Жыл бұрын
20:03 I think a big part of it now it's not really the "disconnect" from not opening the phone but the idea that you could save a ton of battery doing as much as possible just on the outer screen without going full in on the inner one. It could potentially help it last a day more or smth
@txl17
@txl17 Жыл бұрын
Big respect to Motorola. This year's Razr's caught my attention and I may make the jump. Here's hoping they do passport style foldable as well.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M Жыл бұрын
Google Pixel Fold already fits that bill.
@stpr16
@stpr16 Жыл бұрын
dont do it yet, wait for the flip 5 which is rumoured to have the same display on the outside and one ui is way better than the motorola software
@Lovin_NY93
@Lovin_NY93 Жыл бұрын
I love listening to the boys just talk about random stuff. You need a whole podcast where you guys just talk to each other like Bros hanging out after work
@intajkhan5560
@intajkhan5560 7 ай бұрын
Big support for the channel and keep on making awesome content and guides and giveaways in the future as well. Worked for me
@dopeYThandle
@dopeYThandle Жыл бұрын
I legit tune in every week just to see how cute David is 😍😍
@MrCrucifer
@MrCrucifer Жыл бұрын
Marques just chilling in the dark, with the exception of one lone candle, just makes me feel like we need a one off podcast of the gang sitting around a campfire telling stories
@lorenzodalvise9367
@lorenzodalvise9367 Жыл бұрын
The first 10 Apple Mac Pros orders are obviously from Marques
@francisyuweh706
@francisyuweh706 Жыл бұрын
Hoping for another behind the scenes and coverage of the entire event for WWDC. Great episode and wish Marquez will have its Mac Pro wish come true in a few days. Let see. Keep it up
@RAFDOG2k7
@RAFDOG2k7 Жыл бұрын
Honestly my Saturday doesn’t feel right until I hear “and iii’m David”. That man is a gem of a presence.
@jamesgaines6468
@jamesgaines6468 Жыл бұрын
Faraday did the old mechanic shop trick. Price something really high so they know you won’t buy it, BUT they can say “hey we are offering it officially but we just haven’t got an order yet”. Then if someone actually does pay that price then even though it would be a headache, they can at least say well we are getting a lot of money for it.
@mayavril1
@mayavril1 Жыл бұрын
You guys are awesome. Really miss you when you don't drop.
@TeamDaemon1980
@TeamDaemon1980 Жыл бұрын
The cheaper Razr was the one I completely ignored like everyone did for the Denver Nuggets and Miami Heat all season. It looks almost exactly like a Flip 3 & 4 but a smaller cover display at 1.5". But if rumored price at $799, it's got me interested in it a little more. I still prefer getting the Razr+ mainly for the bigger cover display and better SoC. But I wouldn't mind getting the cheaper Razr as I don't use the 2.7" cover display on my Razr 5G a lot except for GMaps and watching videos. I usually open the phone when I want to use it. And who wants to reply to texts using that 2.7" display? The keyboard already takes up like 80% of the screen. The Razr 40 (non-plus) has surprised me with the build quality. No more glass from top to bottom. As Michael Fisher has stated, it has that p-leather (plastic/leather) that the BlackBerry Bold 9000 had in 2008. I like that feeling. It looks way more durable than any foldable flip phone I've seen. It's cheaper. It's durable. It has stamina. I think the cheaper Razr is the way to go for most people who aren't into tech. There are already question marks about the durability with foldables. The cheaper Razr is the one you don't have to spend so much to take on those risks. It has everything the Razr+ has except the SoC and large cover display. The more budget-friendly Razr will open the doors for more affordable foldables. Samsung will copy this and will eventually release cheaper models of their Z Folds and Flips. Everything always boils down to price for most consumers. When more budget-friendly foldables gets released, we'll eventually get to that sub-$500 barrier. The truth about having a bigger cover display on a flip phone is you're still getting a square. A half of a slab. Trust me, I've tried using many different apps on my Razr 5G from there and it's not an ideal experience. Try replying texts from it or browsing the web. Best use for my case is GMaps and streaming apps like KZfaq and Netflix. If you already own a Z Flip 3 or 4, the Razr 40 doesn't make much sense. The 888 and 8+ Gen 1 are still superior to a 7 Gen 1. But if you don't own those Z Flips, want a bigger battery, want that soft touch material, and don't like that Samsung trench of a crease, then the Razr 40 makes a compelling option. 'Meaningful' cheaper better mean at least $400 cheaper. If priced at $700-$800, there are far better options like an iPhone 14 and Pixel 7 Pro with better SoCs for a little more. Razr 40 should try to compete in price with the iPhone SE and Pixel 7a. What I really want is a Sony flip. I've seen the rumor for an Xperia Compact return but no cover display? They're still a very popular form factor in Japan after 20 years. Why not cater to their home country? I want a Sony flip, a Pixel flip, and an iPhone flip if we're never getting back the iPhone minis. Oppo Find N and N2 still offers the best outer displays until the Pixel Fold is out as it's basically like using an iPhone 12 or 13 mini but nearly twice as thick, wider, and heavier. While the Pixel Fold is about the same as a Nexus 5 in height (140 mm range).
@maritocara
@maritocara Жыл бұрын
I ain't reading all that but based on skimming 2 paragraphs, yes, I agree
@mehranbolhasani-se
@mehranbolhasani-se Жыл бұрын
Every week I realize I love these guys more. God damn it.
@somebasicneeds
@somebasicneeds Жыл бұрын
Being from Namibia and hearing about the Namibia Cam/Stream ( 58:00 ) made my day!
@thewillsfamilyaccount6486
@thewillsfamilyaccount6486 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done!
@JakeSulinjr
@JakeSulinjr Жыл бұрын
I'm a 2021 Mach-E owner, and I absolutely love my car! There have been so many fun feature packed "Tesla-like" software updates lately like media streaming, games, etc. Now, being able to use Tesla chargers is so awesome! I love that just because I'm an early adopter, I'm not being left out of these software and hardware feature updates, which makes me a happy customer!
@karakatowTV
@karakatowTV Жыл бұрын
1:30:32 Ellis with the double kill LMAO
@spitfiresim
@spitfiresim Жыл бұрын
Thank you for explaining WWDC I actually somehow still didn’t know what it was lol
@U2haveaniceday20
@U2haveaniceday20 Жыл бұрын
So love where many Companies are going with the new technology.Thank you guys awesome podcasts ✌️
@sh0me14
@sh0me14 Жыл бұрын
28:00 The man with blue stripe shirt is correct. Seed is a number used to initialize the first random noise image which then used to generate the final image. It's important for replicating the random initialization.
@moonpie21012
@moonpie21012 Ай бұрын
That man is Ellis😊
@REVIEWSONTHERUN
@REVIEWSONTHERUN Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing it. ✌️
@Dk-qf8dd
@Dk-qf8dd Жыл бұрын
I grabbed a ThinkPhone to use with my ThinkPad. They work really well together! Pretty cool. Hats off to Moto and Lenovo for something different.
@nickthaskater
@nickthaskater Жыл бұрын
Sad that essentially none of the ThinkPhone coverage highlights the fact that it conserve as a PC for many people all on its own thanks to Ready For desktop mode. No ThinkPad required.
@pratikjha1643
@pratikjha1643 Жыл бұрын
QnA segment so cool and nostalgic that i always skip to this part
@johnjentry6735
@johnjentry6735 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this thx
@jayantasarkar2674
@jayantasarkar2674 Жыл бұрын
This is a good video. Thank you so much for sharing this video. Good information for the.
@Hansence
@Hansence Жыл бұрын
In Taiwan, Tesla used to sell cars with NACS port, recently they switched to CCS2, but all the other EV uses CCS1.
@matthewshields
@matthewshields Жыл бұрын
I think this is a win for Tesla drivers too because it incentivizes development of the tesla supercharger network and fired could develop their own compatible network.
@flexluthor1
@flexluthor1 Жыл бұрын
41:20, this whole conversation around Magic Leap was so confusing. I was picturing LeapFrog, and I kept thinking to myself “Has LeapFrog started making VR headsets?!?” Hahahaha
@thatRANDOMperson1000
@thatRANDOMperson1000 Жыл бұрын
😂
@JMartinsATV
@JMartinsATV Жыл бұрын
I'm writing this while watching WWDC and Apple just revealed the Mac Pro with M2 Ultra. I can only imagine Marques is jumping in his seat!
@JMartinsATV
@JMartinsATV Жыл бұрын
Also, just realized there’s a reference to Sonoma in this ep. Perfect timing!
@xkcd000
@xkcd000 Жыл бұрын
This episode was great fun ..
@waiitwhaat
@waiitwhaat Жыл бұрын
I really wish the video of the podcast came out along side on spotify. I really enjoy seeing the video more than the audio version.
@kwalkomedy
@kwalkomedy Жыл бұрын
So on this WWDC day is Marques happy with the Mac Pro announcement- can not wait for next waveform and the hot takes… esp. on vision pro
@McdoogleTV
@McdoogleTV Жыл бұрын
This is an all time classic episode 😂
@flexluthor1
@flexluthor1 Жыл бұрын
3:25 Aptera also uses NACS, they may not have begun shipping yet. Though Aptera is the first vehicle ever to utilize NACS outside of Tesla.
@eanternet
@eanternet Жыл бұрын
Probably the best podcast out right now
@StephenDeLaRosa
@StephenDeLaRosa Жыл бұрын
Tesla is adding more superchargers faster than they are letting other OEMs join the network. The wait in Los Angeles is much better after the addition of a 62 stall station in Santa Monica and a 44 stall station in Culver City (6 miles apart).
@gopireddy8333
@gopireddy8333 Жыл бұрын
dear Studio channel, now that WWDC keynote is done, please upload the reactions... wanna see Marques's reaction to Mac Pro 😂🎉
@flavious27
@flavious27 Жыл бұрын
I worked for an ISP during sandy, the outages in North Jersey were wild. I had someone that called in when Jersey City had no power, so there was no services, and they were asking for an etr. That area was like 99.8% down and the 0.02% stating online was an error.
@woolfel
@woolfel Жыл бұрын
I've tried Oculus and after 30 minutes you do notice fatigue due to weight. For AR/VR to be the "preferred" device, it has to be so light you don't even notice you have it on and 8 hours later you take it off.
@ShootPicture
@ShootPicture Жыл бұрын
video form of podcast is a must watch
@ryanxamp
@ryanxamp Жыл бұрын
lol Andrew, i'll be at the pittsburgh show. still trying to get tickets but ill at least be there outside listening.
@champroh
@champroh Жыл бұрын
Great video. David said he loves Portugal, now Im an even bigger fan of David imel. 😀
@ethanwagner
@ethanwagner Жыл бұрын
The last minute + 10 of this was the most pin-pointed and hilarious ending to a podcast I’ve ever experienced
@BakedCookiesallday
@BakedCookiesallday Жыл бұрын
David is the reason i watch this
@Aggie4life77
@Aggie4life77 Жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that the VR headset will be like what we’ve seen from Quest Pro, but way more light weight and have much better specs and a better overall experience. The battery pack makes sense. Had they added that in the headset, it would be huge like every other headset which no one uses. Had they went that route, everyone would say it’s the same lol! Can’t win! I’m not huge on AR/VR sets, but I do see the use cases. I just know Apple don’t usually come out with a major announcement and have it look and act just like what’s on the market. Something about it will be next level! By the way, I don’t look at EarPods and even Apple Watch as next level product. I’m talking iPod, iPhone, iPad……..
@Aggie4life77
@Aggie4life77 Жыл бұрын
As for the iTunes on other phones, remember that Apple was developing the iPad first around that time. Finally Steve said, “let’s shelve the iPad for now and build a phone based off similar tech”. 3 years later, it’s an iPod, phone, an internet communicator….the rest is history! At the the time of iPhone launch, Android was being built to copy blackberry…..
@Pistolita221
@Pistolita221 Жыл бұрын
@1:18:45 get a reciprocating saw, it's a mini-chain saw with the ability to cut metal for demolition if you need to. THAT is a fun power tool. The whole staff is great, but I am vibing hard with andrew rn.
@amoghbadugu
@amoghbadugu Жыл бұрын
seed is the number which is used to generate random sequences. If you use the same seed and the same prompt it will return the same image every time
@usernextclick2482
@usernextclick2482 Жыл бұрын
Will you guys be commenting on anymore of the UI updates apps like KZfaq and Spotify keep making?
@cutieapplepie
@cutieapplepie Жыл бұрын
fav episode
@2000GHz
@2000GHz Жыл бұрын
IT HAPPENED, APPLE SILICON MAC PRO IS REAL BOYSSSSS
@jom1439
@jom1439 Жыл бұрын
The ai camera heavily reminds me of a design/art project by philipp schmitt called camera restricta. Its a camera that is hooked up the instagram feed an doesnt let you photograph things that already got photographed too many times 😅. That project was from 2015 - so it plays with the rise of instagram and public photo sharing on social media which was kind of a new thing back then. Edit: wow - i just googled it. And it seems björn karmann (the guy who now did the ai-camera) did the cinematography for that project 8 years ago. Thats why these two projects are kind of similar.
@DeepDishPizza
@DeepDishPizza Жыл бұрын
We just received our dev kits for the VP this morning. We are on the case!
@MatthewMS.
@MatthewMS. 19 күн бұрын
I really like the razor. The OG Nokia brick phone and Motorola Razor are my two favorite phones from when I was in college
@AkshatVora
@AkshatVora Жыл бұрын
One great use of the AI camera would be to lookup what that location used to look like 5-10-50 years ago. If that works
@lawrencekeat
@lawrencekeat Жыл бұрын
WVFRM 👍 is the Best Video Podcasts tech update you need 😊. Love it ❤
@marrywhannah
@marrywhannah Жыл бұрын
I want Marques to make a main channel vid about the AI Camera. It's so cool.
@kosiranze
@kosiranze Жыл бұрын
For Europe, tesla actually used a modified type 2 connector first, and then moved to type 2 ccs later. Also, nacs wouldn't fly here as 3 phase service with smaller breakers is common here instead of single phase at 100+ amps and nacs physically can't do that as it only has 2 beefy conductors instead of 5 of regular type 2 plug here. Also type 2 plug is smaller and less breakable than type 1, because locking mechanism is on the car, same as nacs, and not on the cable.
@mjjf8297
@mjjf8297 Жыл бұрын
1:30:16 David nailed it with the new macOS name here and didn’t even realized
@Vishrut379
@Vishrut379 Жыл бұрын
I just saw a FF91 yesterday on the 405 near Carson. I was wondering what car that was and you just talked about it today. Looks really sick. Not sure how it's going to hold up.
@amandaschmidt970
@amandaschmidt970 Жыл бұрын
As someone who lives about 30 minutes from Barstow, CA, I almost spit out my drink when Ellis said Mac OS Barstow. 😂
@MobileBytesTV
@MobileBytesTV Жыл бұрын
If Moto makes the Razer 699 or 799 theyll blow up. Flip Android phones are the biggest item that makes iPhone users switch. Love to see it.
@PSYCHOV3N0M
@PSYCHOV3N0M Жыл бұрын
Most people still don't even know that foldable Razrs exist. Most people only know about the Galaxy Z Flip. I highly doubt the base Razr will sell well even if it's under $1,000 when both the Razr+ and the upcoming Z Flip 5 will have larger usable outer displays.
@David-ry4jq
@David-ry4jq Жыл бұрын
This is a fun hang on a Friday afternoon. Except when things that happened in my youth are "rediscovered" by the gang.
@mikkelkristiansen3694
@mikkelkristiansen3694 Жыл бұрын
Watching from Denmark 🇩🇰 - maybe from one of David’s favorite places 👀
@cheskafayatola
@cheskafayatola Жыл бұрын
It took a little while for me to pin it but David reminds me of a PG version of Barney Stinson. I love it!😅
@peteyharr5470
@peteyharr5470 Жыл бұрын
Sitting in downtown Detroit, hearing them just name drop Detroit probably made my whole night
@varunhari8970
@varunhari8970 Жыл бұрын
I wish you guys could have spoken about the new Arc boost for a minute 😊
@ssachdev1
@ssachdev1 Жыл бұрын
Perfectly on time, Iike all things should be
@rehatbir.
@rehatbir. Жыл бұрын
In the EU I believe the standard is CCS2 which is a much better standard when compared to CCS1. NACS is much better regardless but in Europe they had to stick with it due to the regulations. Also ALSOO the CCS adapter is not extra when buying a new Tesla, albeit you only get the adapter and not the wall charger anymore
@MostlyReading
@MostlyReading Жыл бұрын
Nah because David is the best on this crew fr.
@youngblack253
@youngblack253 Жыл бұрын
I want guerilla glass 10. And bring back the side kick where a dual touch screen “flip” that has it all.
@munnasaifi7537
@munnasaifi7537 11 ай бұрын
thanks
@nyasha_sam
@nyasha_sam Жыл бұрын
The AI camera could be useful for self-driving cars, remote monitoring for high risk industries. It's definitely not a consumer device, it's more enterprise.
@jfreshh330
@jfreshh330 Жыл бұрын
1:21:52 YOO THATS A GOAT DUDE… DAMN 😂
@whiteb68
@whiteb68 Жыл бұрын
The CCS in Europe is not the same CCS in the US.
@otternng
@otternng Жыл бұрын
Exactly! CCS1 in US and CCS2 in Europe.
@ben_ands
@ben_ands Жыл бұрын
If you were wondering, Here’s the clip of Apple, promising Mac Pro It that it never happened kzfaq.infoUgkx-qUwPXImMfzMTpu0_84433-VSVk1LRm1 47:45
@funnytoro
@funnytoro Жыл бұрын
Have you guys thought of doing this as a livestream?
@challengeant
@challengeant Жыл бұрын
Its insane that you can talk about having power outages as a normal thing in the US. Fair play to you dealing with it regulalry. But, that sucks you have to just put up with that.
@jangamnaveen154
@jangamnaveen154 Жыл бұрын
It's been like 6 months David has been regular 🎉
@OmarQunsul
@OmarQunsul Жыл бұрын
But Apple mentioned explicitly that they still have 1 PC waiting in line for M1/M2 updates. Right? The Mac Pro was even in the frame
@nickd7935
@nickd7935 Жыл бұрын
which keynote was that in?
@Meban101
@Meban101 Жыл бұрын
The razr plus's outer display is pure genius for some smartphone detox. I mean you can do all the basic things you need without really opening the phone. And save some battery life.
@reteipdevries
@reteipdevries Жыл бұрын
As for the coordinates: There are plastic chairs on the roof. A red one , a blue one and a yellow one and they all look just the same.
@vinpro612
@vinpro612 Жыл бұрын
I tried the method and it worked with me
@4paapii
@4paapii Жыл бұрын
What method?
@soumyabrataroy1462
@soumyabrataroy1462 Жыл бұрын
Clearly Tim Cook listened to Marques.. Tim Cook be like „Take it and go“… be at peace
@sullivan4052
@sullivan4052 Жыл бұрын
Ford moving to Tesla's charging port is definitely bad for other chargers using CCS since they don't have incentives to improve CCS anymore.
@kushaljain4293
@kushaljain4293 Жыл бұрын
Macworld leaked the entire event timeline and the Mac pro is coming
@Waveform
@Waveform Жыл бұрын
Marques will be very happy if this is true lol
@Manganellia1
@Manganellia1 Жыл бұрын
@@Waveform Looks like that whole article is just a joke =(
@Aba2105
@Aba2105 Жыл бұрын
This was pretty funny as someone from Namibia cause knowing how the people in Namibia do things, its hilarious to find out there was someone streaming a watering hole... lol
@esaedvik
@esaedvik Жыл бұрын
The affordable folding phones are second hand. 400-500 for a previous gen one is fine when Fold Z3 was like 2 grand at launch,
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