HOW TO Install Control Arm Drop Brackets on a Jeep Wrangler or Gladiator

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Wayalife

Wayalife

17 күн бұрын

Drop brackets are great way to correct the geometry of your front control arms after installing a lift on a Jeep Wrangler or Gladiator truck. Just like long arms, they will allow your arms to sit closer to stock again and that will help to improve ride comfort and handling and without having to do any drilling, cutting or welding on the frame. The best part about them is, they're affordable and in this video, you'll see just how easy it is to install a set made by EVO Manufacturing.
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@ramgxr03
@ramgxr03 15 күн бұрын
Wow. I could have used this video last year installing these exact drop brackets. My son and I had a hell of a time trying to figure out how to line up the holes. I’m pretty sure we invented a new language while we were at it too. Haha. Nice work.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
LOL - sorry I didn't get this up sooner but happy to hear you were still able to enjoy it 😎
@bobbyjiang5363
@bobbyjiang5363 4 күн бұрын
As a long time follower of Wayalife, I only have one question for you, how you keep these jeep so clean that I can not find any dirt on your jeep😂😂😂
@ZachAttack.23
@ZachAttack.23 15 күн бұрын
Eddie, your videos never fail to entertain! I eagerly anticipate each new installment where you not only add exciting new features to the Jeep but also provide clear, step-by-step installation guides. Your content has been immensely helpful in customizing both my Jeep and my wife’s. I'd love to see your next video cover installing rear axle shafts or upgrading to a bolt-on long arm kit. Looking forward to it, Eddie! Keep up the great work!
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Truly humbled to hear you say as much and glad you enjoy our videos.
@TheRambler-pz1gx
@TheRambler-pz1gx 15 күн бұрын
Great video. I ran geometry correction brackets about 5 years on my 2016 JKUR with a 4" lift, and 37's/ 38's. The brackets did help, but I was on fixed control arms. When I switched to adjustable mid arms, and got rid of the brackets. After an alignment the Jeep drove just as well. I am not going to say they are snake oil because they do work for fixed control arms, but if you have adjustable control arms there isnt much I could tell to gain. At least that was my experience. I am also not a pro by any means, so take my thoughts with a gain of salt. In the grand scheme of things these are about $150. give it a shot, and it may help you out a ton more than it did for me. Cons: 1) There is a ton of leverage/force applied to the brackets. Even when properly torqued the bracket If you do not re torque the bolts after say 500 miles or so the bracket can rock leading to oblong through holes. This will lead to poor tolerances on the bolts, and the bracket will "rock" in the direction the force is applied. You will begin to hear a clunking sound. 2) You need to get fully boxed design. There are "sandwich" designs out there, and they will bend/fold. The ones in this video seems boxed, and of good quality. 3) Rocks can eat these up. On larger tires it is less of an issue. Mine were semi beat up with 37's/38's. Also just like I mentioned above the through holes can get messed up if you take to many hits with the rocks. These multiply the forces seen via leverage, so keep that in mind. Like anything offroad you need to check them after trail runs. 4) There are a lot of folks out there whom do not understand what these things do. They will constantly, and irritatingly try to tell you these are worthless, or dumb. Even if they have now clue what your build criteria is about. Not all rigs are the same nor are your needs. 5) This is nit picky, but you take a small hit in the ground clearance department technically. The only time I even noticed was the once in a blue moon direct hit in the rocks out here in the PNW. Specifically Reiter ORV park. The rocks are large boulders strategically placed along the trail system. You can look it up YT to see what I am talking about. Regular scenic trails I never touched these on obstacles.
@mistermr.6938
@mistermr.6938 15 күн бұрын
Another excellent video. EVen though I already have brackets, I watched the whole thing. ha. These are consistently the best install/how to videos, and enjoyable to watch. Just as a side, I prefer (and use) the Rancho brackets as they allow for a little adjustment of the upper control arms as they have 3 positions to use. Using your older videos as inspiration, I did a Rancho lift with the 9000xl shocks a few months ago and got 3" of lift. I added the Mopar extended lower LCAs (Not ready to drop $1k or more on a set of arms) and the Rancho bracket and have dead on 6 degree caster and the the jeep handles great. If I need to do anything on my Wrangler, your videos are the first ones I look at (and usually the only ones i need).
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Awesome! Glad you were able to still enjoy the video 😎
@user-io3hw7hx7q
@user-io3hw7hx7q 15 күн бұрын
Awesome Outstanding job thanks you
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@trynsurviven2440
@trynsurviven2440 14 күн бұрын
I’ve said this before but I will say it again. Watching your videos sure makes it tough to stay away from the Jeep dealerships. That rig looks awesome and thank you for walking us through the process.
@jrmotorsports5532
@jrmotorsports5532 15 күн бұрын
Great video as always. Thanks!
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Happy to hear you enjoyed it 😎
@yazanhalaweh1103
@yazanhalaweh1103 15 күн бұрын
As always great video
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it 😎
@GadsdenJL
@GadsdenJL 15 күн бұрын
Have loved my teraflex drops with the drop bracket Reinforcements. Has worked perfectly for 3 hard years now.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Awesome
@nealesmith1873
@nealesmith1873 15 күн бұрын
Great instructions!
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad it was helpful! 😎
@mikepierson3097
@mikepierson3097 15 күн бұрын
Awesome explanation of why and how. Those brackets look great, they don’t seem like they’ll hang up too bad. 👍
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Thank you my friend, glad you found our video to be informative 😎
@edselbritting9792
@edselbritting9792 13 күн бұрын
Another great video Eddie (and cindy) thank you
@wayalife
@wayalife 13 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 😎
@Frostytravels
@Frostytravels 15 күн бұрын
Gotta love EVO products. Thanks for sharing.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! 😎
@johnboudreau5135
@johnboudreau5135 15 күн бұрын
I always enjoy your videos. Very informative, accurate and entertaining.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad you like them!
@angelogiannikos6657
@angelogiannikos6657 15 күн бұрын
Thanx again for great info and video
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Happy to hear you found our video to be enjoyable and informative 😎
@jchunt6652
@jchunt6652 15 күн бұрын
Always enjoy your installs….
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Really happy to hear you enjoy them 😎
@Jeepula
@Jeepula 15 күн бұрын
My friend your timing is on point, love your content, stay well and healthy!
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad to hear it and thank you 😎
@southwestoffroad
@southwestoffroad 11 күн бұрын
I just put on Metal Cloak Drop brackets and control arms a month ago. Wasn't too bad and only took about 2 hours to do.
@huntinbob06
@huntinbob06 15 күн бұрын
Another well done video!! Thank you for sharing.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad you found it to be informative 😎
@discipleoffroad
@discipleoffroad 15 күн бұрын
Nice video you guys. Great to hear your feedback on these. Definitely a great addition for the daily driver/weekend warrior 🤙🏼
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Thank you. I honestly think that for most guys, these are all they need and they'll hold up just fine.
@davidlong3247
@davidlong3247 15 күн бұрын
Good video
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed
@joejimenez8068
@joejimenez8068 14 күн бұрын
Awesome thank you for sharing your expertise wall of us
@wayalife
@wayalife 14 күн бұрын
Happy to hear you found our video to be informative.
@1a1u0g9t4s2u
@1a1u0g9t4s2u 15 күн бұрын
Glad I saw one of your earlier videos on EVO’s long arm kits for the JL. Been very happy with them. Still a great video on the drop arm bracket kit. Thanks for sharing
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video and really, if you can afford long arms, they are the better way to go.
@helodriver20
@helodriver20 15 күн бұрын
Another great video Eddie. 🤟⚔️🇺🇸
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@ccrognlie
@ccrognlie 14 күн бұрын
I agree with you, I installed them on my gladiator and it made a noticble difference. Keep up the great videos!!
@wayalife
@wayalife 14 күн бұрын
Glad to hear they worked out well for you too.
@user-ky7qy3wy8q
@user-ky7qy3wy8q 13 күн бұрын
Great to see you working the tools. I must say at my age that 100 plus torgue is tuff laying on the ground. I had some sway bar bracket that needed torqing on my Merceds van and that was a struggle. Buy yourself a 15/16 wrench next time the Snap on guy swings by.😊
@Buy_YT_Views.86
@Buy_YT_Views.86 15 күн бұрын
Can't stop watching! ��
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Humbled that you would say as much, thank you.
@MindisJurenas
@MindisJurenas 15 күн бұрын
Running 4.5" MC lift on my JLU noticed HUGE difference after installing front and rear MC drop brackets! Haven't had any issues rock crawling either.. Nice install video BTW
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video :)
@phantumdrummer
@phantumdrummer 15 күн бұрын
Evo once again made another great kit. These work best with fix control arms. Though if you're lucky enough to have adjustable control arms, I would highly suggest getting the alignment readjusted once done. As this is exactly why we have adjustable arms... so we can adjust the axle angles to the proper alignment after a large lift. It will only help make good things better.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
There's no need to get an alignment. I had already set my control arms to be about +4° when I installed my lift and after installing these drop brackets, I'm only seeing about +5°. With FAD, it's not a problem.
@phantumdrummer
@phantumdrummer 15 күн бұрын
@@wayalife I really wasn't talking about your particular situation, but for those watching that are installing fresh arms and brackets. People get these nice stronger arms that happen to be adjustable. Then still set them to stock lengths. In that case, an alignment for them would be a good idea.
@terryderush2657
@terryderush2657 15 күн бұрын
Always 🇺🇸 👍 great 👍 stuff 👍 🇺🇸 😊
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Thank you. Happy to hear you enjoyed the video 😎
@michaelgoddard4122
@michaelgoddard4122 15 күн бұрын
Great video! Learned something new which is always a good thing. Bad thing… you make it look way too easy! 😂
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
LOL - honestly, it really is as easy as you see in this video. You just need to follow the steps I show and I can assure you, this is something you can do 👍
@shawnradcliff64
@shawnradcliff64 15 күн бұрын
That Jeep sure has a clean underside…
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
LOL - I always try my best to clean it before working underneath it 😎
@navseal345
@navseal345 15 күн бұрын
👌
@LukeEdward
@LukeEdward 15 күн бұрын
Gotta tell you, I have drop brackets on my 2.5” lifted 2-door JL and it is a BIG DIFFERENCE in the driving and steering. I couldn’t quite get the bottom mega torque on that bolt with the clearance I forgot to give myself, so I used a floor jack to torque it. Hope it’ll help one of y’all, out there.
@abuanas2007
@abuanas2007 5 күн бұрын
Great demo as usual, thanks. dose the control arm drop brakets solve the death wobble for 2.5" lift?
@wayalife
@wayalife 5 күн бұрын
Death wobble is a condition caused by loose or worn out steering and or suspension components. If you have it, I would check your track bar bolts to make sure they are tightened to 120 ft lbs of torque and that the bushing are still in good shape. If they check out, I would give your ball joints a look next. Both are very common causes of death wobble.
@Daywalker78
@Daywalker78 15 күн бұрын
Question, is something like this not required for the rear? Thanks, great vid!
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Honestly, it would be nice if there were something for the rear but it's far from necessary to have. Most of what you feel and experience in terms of ride comfort and handling is felt up front and so that's why the correction is just made there. Of course, long arms would address both ends but they come at a steep cost and a lot of work.
@TwistedOff
@TwistedOff Күн бұрын
👍
@ivanadams3345
@ivanadams3345 14 күн бұрын
Can you do it on a jeep renegade latitude 4x2 sport 😮
@wayalife
@wayalife 14 күн бұрын
Renegades have IFS and this is for a solid front axle.
@3914soh
@3914soh 15 күн бұрын
Great video! Super informative. I have a jk with 3.5 lift and fixed UCA and adjustable LCA to be 4.3 degree caster now. With the drop bracket should I readjust the LCA length or just leave it as you did? the whole axle will move a bit forward so. Thank you!
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Being that you have a JK, I would say that you should readjust your LCAs so that you still have 4.3° of caster, especially if you're running a higher gear ratio and a u-joint style double cardan drive shaft. Anything more and you will start to feel driveline vibrations.
@3914soh
@3914soh 15 күн бұрын
@@wayalife thank you so much!
@XxggxX8
@XxggxX8 15 күн бұрын
Bolts come off so easy wished my xj did this as well , unfortunately the break everyone of them 😅
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Definitely the benefit of living in Nevada and working on a newer Jeep.
@PuffyDucks
@PuffyDucks 15 күн бұрын
Great video as always. I do have a question though as I’m planning to install a lift for the first time myself in the near future. If the drop brackets were installed at the time of the lift, would you have altered the length of the control arms differently than what they are now? Hope this question makes sense. I’m a newb with this kind of thing.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
To be honest, installing the drop brackets during the installation of your lift is the best time to do it and no, there is no need to change the length of your control arms. In fact, drop brackets are typically used with factory control arms or ones set to that length.
@PuffyDucks
@PuffyDucks 15 күн бұрын
Good to know. Thank you!
@michaelkimmey8182
@michaelkimmey8182 15 күн бұрын
Ok so hear is my question is it better to have the caster adjusted back to a factory setting or is it better to have less of a difference between driveshaft and pinion angle? because you are going to have to choose one or the other.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Caster NEEDS to take precedence over pinion angle. Factory setting is best but a bit more will make your steering feel tighter and track straighter. This is something you should only do with FAD or manual locking hubs. Setting your pinion in line with your driveshaft, as you would do for the rear would cause your Jeep to feel very flighty, wander all over the place and worse.
@weekendwarriorstexas2382
@weekendwarriorstexas2382 14 күн бұрын
Would this work in conjunction with a kit with replacement “ caster correcting” lower control arms?
@wayalife
@wayalife 14 күн бұрын
Yes but you will end up with more caster. This isn't a terrible thing so long as you still have your FAD.
@KeenanGreen-et3mc
@KeenanGreen-et3mc 12 күн бұрын
I have adjustable front lowers and fixed uppers just like in the video. If I install the drop brackets do I have to adjust the length of the lowers back to factor length?
@wayalife
@wayalife 11 күн бұрын
I suppose it depends on how much you have them adjusted. If it's more than 3/8", I would say the lowers should be pulled back to at least 1/4" or less and then set your uppers so that you have +4°-5° of caster.
@oldasiandude76
@oldasiandude76 15 күн бұрын
Great video as usual. May I ask a question. What do you think about the aev 2 inch spacer lift? If I get it, should I get adjustable front and rear track bars of will the factory track bars still be fine? Thank you in advance.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
With just 2" of lift, you're still with in factory spec and new adjustable track bars will not be needed. Even with 4" of lift, they're not really needed but they will help to recenter your axles at a typical ride height. I say typical because your axles will always be off one way or the other depending on how much weight you have or don't have in your Jeep. It's just the nature of solid axles with 4-link suspension and a track bar. That said, a relocation bracket the rear and an adjustable one up front is what I would do if anything.
@mistermr.6938
@mistermr.6938 15 күн бұрын
You don't NEED to but if you measure how much one wheel sticks out vs the other of you have any OCD you'll want to put an adjustable on to center your axle.
@oldasiandude76
@oldasiandude76 15 күн бұрын
@@wayalife thank you for the reply. Love your content.
@jeep-thk-jp-yu6nf
@jeep-thk-jp-yu6nf 11 күн бұрын
Hello. I always watch your videos. Do you have any recommended control arms for the JK Wrangler?
@wayalife
@wayalife 11 күн бұрын
Sure. I'm always a fan of EVO control arms but really, anything with Johnny Joints will get the job done well too. Of course, that would include RockJock as they make the Johnny Joints.
@jeep-thk-jp-yu6nf
@jeep-thk-jp-yu6nf 11 күн бұрын
@@wayalife Thanks. Does that include the rock crawlers you are considering?
@wayalife
@wayalife 11 күн бұрын
That's what I have on my JK and big Gladiator if that's what you're asking.
@timothyreed8417
@timothyreed8417 15 күн бұрын
Do you suggest doing a front end alignment after installing? Or is that necessary?
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Unless you have adjustable components like control arms and track bar, the most an alignment shop will to is take your money to do a whole lot of nothing.
@951media
@951media 15 күн бұрын
You went back to stock lengths for the upper and lowers after putting the drop brackets on?
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
I am still running factory upper arms but no, I did not set the lowers back to stock. This gave me an extra degree of caster, about 5° now and with FAD, it isn't enough to be a problem.
@cgutowski471
@cgutowski471 15 күн бұрын
Not a drop bracket question but replacing my LCA with Mopar kit longer ones and can’t get wrenches under it enough to loosen then torque. Can I just do this with axle on jack stands like you’re doing here so weight is on the axle?
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Yes. Putting your axle on jack stands will still have the full weight of your Jeep on the ground.
@SugarFiveZero
@SugarFiveZero 3 күн бұрын
Did I miss in the video where you measured the caster angle?
@wayalife
@wayalife 3 күн бұрын
I do not have a video on setting caster but I do have a write-up for it here www.wayalife.com/threads/basic-do-it-yourself-jeep-jk-wrangler-front-end-alignment.3861/#post-42391
@SugarFiveZero
@SugarFiveZero 2 күн бұрын
@wayalife Thanks, I'll check it out.
@CrunchEnhancer
@CrunchEnhancer 15 күн бұрын
what model lift is on the JT from EVO
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
EVO Enforcer Stage 3 Overland Lift: evomfg.com/products/4-5-enforcer-suspension-systems-for-jt-diesel?aff=2 You can see the install video for it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gN1jfayS2d7Xio0.html
@ZroCool_Garage
@ZroCool_Garage 15 күн бұрын
Who makes that giant torque wrench?
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Man, it's been years since I bought it but if I recall, I got it from Harbor Freight. It's a 3/4" drive so you will need a step down bit for it. That said, it sure makes getting up close to 200 ft lbs a lot easier.
@TheJoePhoto
@TheJoePhoto 16 күн бұрын
Hi.. Would Control Arm down brackets help with Death Wobble on an Cherokee XJ..?
@mistermr.6938
@mistermr.6938 15 күн бұрын
Death wobble is something is loose. You need to retighten your control arm bolts, and trackbar bolts. I don't know XJ's but if it's a solid front axle, it's the same concept. If that's all been done and you still have issues, it's time to look at your steering. Drag link and tie-rod joints need to be checked, as do the steering knuckle ball joints.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
@TheJoePhoto No. Death wobble is a condition caused by loose or worn out steering and or suspension components. Typically, a loose track bar bolt or worn out bushing is the culprit. Worn out ball joints are the second most common cause.
@ranarch
@ranarch 15 күн бұрын
It looks like the ones for a 2018 rubicon are a little different
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
Not sure in what way. I've owned a 2018 JL and still own a 2020 JT and a 2022 392. All is the same.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
You know, just to clarify, these will work on a 2018 JL Wrangler and NOT a 2018 JK Wrangler. I know that both were made in that year.
@rosco1883
@rosco1883 15 күн бұрын
Did you not have to reset your caster?
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
I did not. After installing the brackets, I was seeing about 5° of caster and with FAD, it really isn't an issue.
@rosco1883
@rosco1883 15 күн бұрын
Good deal. I am doing this to mine this weekend, and I am around 6 degrees now. If it's too low, I will adjust it if I need to.
@raywarner4704
@raywarner4704 15 күн бұрын
I installed these and liked the improvement in the ride but they made a lot of noise.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
@@raywarner4704 Noise? I don't have any. I would double check the torque on your bolts or your control arm bushings as there shouldn't be ANY noise from these brackets.
@wayalife
@wayalife 15 күн бұрын
@@rosco1883 If you're at 6 now, adding the brackets will INCREASE your caster even higher. I would adjust your lower control arms in a bit to help prevent that as it would be way too much.
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