Wayland with a Nvidia GPU? Well...
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Күн бұрынHype is there for Wayland, but it is ready for a daily use with a Nvidia card?
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Chapters:
0:00 - Intro
1:13 - X11 and Wayland
2:17 - Testing and review process
4:39 - X11 is not maintained anymore
6:00 - Install Wayland with a Nvidia GPU
8:01 - The desktop experience
11:20 - Gaming experience
16:17 - Gameplay: BattleBit Remastered
19:08 - Conclusion
@A1RM4X Жыл бұрын
IMPORTANT FIX: I was not aware of the correct process to install OBS dependencies on Wayland. You need to install "xdg-desktop-portal-wlr" to activate the screen capture via pipewire for OBS. After installing it, the option is there and the screen capture works. Take that in consideration if you wish to use wayland and capture content. Thanks @DoM3GaM3sTM for sharing your feedback! Linux community is great!
@Storm_VLRT 10 ай бұрын
A little bit of a heads up on this one, xdg-desktop-portal-kde also does the job and is specifically for kde. As the name suggests, "wlr" is for wlroots compositors, e.g wayfire, river, not hyprland (xdg-desktop-portal-hyprland). Hope this helps people with screensharing on wayland. Personally my experience has been flawlessly so far, but unfortunately, that is not the norm on wayland + nvidia combo (im on a gtx 1050). Oh yeah and regarding the v-sync lock, if I am not mistaken, that can be bypassed with enabling screen-tear in fullscreen (only on kde so far, under compositor settings), or use valve's gamescope compositor Have a very nice day people 🙏
@chomskyan4life 8 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to see how well Wayland + Nvidia works out of the box, especially for GPU intensive stuff like gaming, once Fedora 39 comes out.
@flexxxxer 5 ай бұрын
@@chomskyan4life and what will happen? why?
@pmcomputing2459 9 ай бұрын
would be nice if nvidia control panel worked on wayland
@84e-NDtj_y Жыл бұрын
Wayland is not ready yet. It is not far from being ready, but I don't see any reason to switch yet. X11 works find for my use case, and causes me no head aches.
@winsomehax 8 ай бұрын
X11 is dead. You're going to have to come to peace with this.
@MrCobalt 8 ай бұрын
@@winsomehax I'll also continue using X11 until Wayland is truly ready.
@AR_-xi5xg 7 ай бұрын
@@MrCobaltsame
@matuz_0117 3 ай бұрын
@@winsomehax still x11 user even after plasma 6, the only prob I have with wayland is that I have a Nvidia GPU lol, wish I could increase digital vibrance but not possible.
@tetradkepler3091 Ай бұрын
NVIDIA driver is the culprit. In a really old GPU card, the tumbleweed installation picks up, not the NVIDIA driver, but the Nouveau driver by default. Wayland works well with Nouveau.
@idcrafter-cgi Жыл бұрын
KDE has a option in the systemsettings to enable glovbal shortcuts with any X11 applications like discord
@KajzerD Жыл бұрын
I tried them, but they won't work. Not sure what's the cause. Only reason I kept my X11 instance of KDE still. That was on Fedora 38 with normal OBS installed. Flatpak has the same issue.
@tetradkepler3091 Ай бұрын
NVIDIA driver is the culprit. In a system with a really old GPU card, the tumbleweed installation picks up, not the NVIDIA driver, but the Nouveau driver by default. Wayland works well with Nouveau. I got rid of the the Nvidia GeForce 960. The system took the the on-board intel GPU. Wayland works fine with the intel on-board GPU.
@fartsalad2456 Жыл бұрын
Wayland can flicker constantly on KDE desktop and in-game on Nvidia (with a 2080ti). This effect makes me think my IPS panel is dying... other than that its 90% usable on Arch
@fartsalad2456 Жыл бұрын
forgot to mention my driver: nvidia 535.54.03-2
@A1RM4X Жыл бұрын
Interesting, never encountered this issue while running the same drivers
@Nopraz42 Жыл бұрын
I have the exact same issue, I also have some sort of "rollback stutter" when playing on GNOME Wayland
@readifdumb 2 ай бұрын
@@Nopraz42 did you ever fix it?
@readifdumb 2 ай бұрын
did you ever fix it?
@ShaneMiltonProductions Жыл бұрын
with me doing photography and color grading 10bit video on davinci resolve wayland needs proper color management with the ability to load icc color profiles per monitor after calibration and profiling with color meter. Wayland currently lacks this ability but under xorg with colord it works just like under windows and mac.
@davidalcala7136 8 ай бұрын
Most of the problems are due to the fact that software developers have refused for many years to correctly implement Wayland, for fear of change, investment or any problem for the developer and the companies. Wayland is the future of the GUI in Linux, we must try to adopt it and push so that the migration from xorg to wayland is completed in the shortest time possible.
@MatthewSuffidy 6 ай бұрын
I used Fedora Core 38 and I enabled and installed the rpmfusion 470xx nvidia driver. My OBS works in both X11 and wayland. When using pipewire you can to press the settings and share your display. What seems to be the case for me is if you sleep and resume, nvidia-uvm messes up and obs capture goes black after a few seconds, so I just rmmod nvidia-uvm and modprobe nvidia-uvm on resume.
@asunavk69 9 ай бұрын
addressing vsync forced issue on wayland, on games i do get 'forced' vsync if i enable on some games however it improves from the stutter and all. But on heaven benchmark and opengl gpu based benchmark, my rtx3060(at 80w, it has a config problem with ubuntu) gets up to 200fps on my 75hz display. So i guess it just depends.
@DomeF. Жыл бұрын
9:00 I'm not totally with you on this part of the video, because it's totally normal that you can't record your screen on obs if you use xshm and xcomposite, because they are extensions for xorg, they are not meant to be used with wayland, instead capturing the screen/window with pipewire work without any problem! And most of the common linux distro ship with pipewire out of the box for example debian 12, ubuntu since 22.10, garuda, opensuse, fedora and many more, you don't have it because you didn't install it.
@A1RM4X Жыл бұрын
Going to make a pin comment about that. I did install pipewire on Arch (this is the only way for me to get my mixer working properly). However, I had to install an extra package to capture the screen via OBS: "xdg-desktop-portal-wlr" Without this package, the option to capture the screen via Pipewire won't appear in OBS. So yes, you can capture your screen on Wayland. Thanks for the comment @Dom
@DomeF. Жыл бұрын
@@A1RM4X No problem my guy
@daniil2704 6 ай бұрын
I have an RTX 3050 and kde plasma with x11 works terribly, everything lags. Gnome works well on x's in general, but not perfectly. On my Intel Iris laptop I have gnome with Wayland and everything works fine there. I tried Wayland with KDE Plasma and everything started working quickly, but there were various architects and glitches, and I can't get Gnome to work at all under Wayland.
@az9az9az9 7 ай бұрын
I'm on X11 with Kubuntu 23.10. AMD iGPU 780M + Nvidia dGPU 4060M. *7840HS / 780M has no OpenCL or Radeon HIP support in Ubuntu 23.10 *In iGPU mode, no Optix, Cuda or OpenCL can be used from RTX4060. *Phantom power draw from RTX4060 in iGPU mode, can only be fixed with Nouveau driver. *Nouveau driver has no Optix, Cuda or OpenCL. *Optix, Cuda and OpenCL need Nvidia mux switch on dedicated GPU. * Driver can not be switched when optimus is on iGPU. * Any discrepancy between optimus and mux switch results infinity boot loop. * Proprietary nvidia driver and 780M iGPU driver have different screen brightness and font size, so all the boxes get stretched and iscons moved around permanently. * Driver update messes up the driver switching panel. * All this changes need many restarts and hand fixing desktop layout. Consider time needed 30 minutes atleast.
@andreyansimov5442 4 ай бұрын
What is Wayland? What is X11? It is all so strange. Im on LMDE 6 for thtee weeks and it makes me crazy. I cannot use my nice spec laptop for what I want it to use. 3D manipulation and 3D CAD, and printing. its Nvidia card + iGPU.
@flaviovitoriano2429 9 ай бұрын
a thing thats annoys me on x11 is the lock of lowest framerate on multiple monitors.
@A1RM4X 9 ай бұрын
This is a myth, Nvidia corrected this issue 3 generations of drivers ago. Please check this video for more info kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o7yHaMp23t_Ueok.html
@flaviovitoriano2429 9 ай бұрын
@@A1RM4X Sadly this still happening to me on my pc, every time I want to play a game I need to disconnect my secondary monitor to get the maximum fps available. But based in my knowledge this is an issue with X11 not Nvidia.
@A1RM4X 9 ай бұрын
@@flaviovitoriano2429 what is the version of the drivers you use?
@flaviovitoriano2429 9 ай бұрын
@@A1RM4X Acording to nvidia-smi: 535.104.05
@CleetusGlobin 9 ай бұрын
Man, I got this recommended to me right as we're finding out that Fedora is planning on dropping X11 support. There are games and apps that just _don't run_ on Wayland. If Ubuntu or Debian ends up dropping support as well, thar's how you get most of the 76% on Desktop users to leave entirely. Wayland better get their shit together in terms of Nvidia support or there's gonna be massive issues.
@A1RM4X 9 ай бұрын
We will get there dude! X11 will still be available even if Fedora is getting rid of it (if they do it for Fedora 39, not sure is it going to happen at 100%).
@ibyanever8763 9 ай бұрын
you didn't give us installation guide or anything just talking
@mimillie 10 ай бұрын
For me Wayland is crucial even with Nvidia and their crappy drivers... Because Xorg don't play nice with my hardware, it feels like a 1950 Laptop when I use Xorg with my DE and Wayland miss some features and Nvidia support (It works but with Optimus like Xorg it's a PAIN ! ) Wayland also miss support from some apps like Discord. Also Xorg doesn't have a proper fractional scaling. that I need if I want to see something on my laptop screen if connected to a monitor. I'm in that situation for more than a year. Wayland is far from prefect but for me it's WAY (land) better than Xorg
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