I love the video of the dude on here telling everyone they have weak grips lol. I wrestled for 14 years and lift weights regularly. These 12 round mags bested me.

I’m so glad to see these comments and this video. Bought this as my first pistol Friday and thought it was just my inexperience 😅

Nearly broke my thumb trying to get the 12th in. Came here to see if it was just me or its just a sig thing.

First time Sig purchaser here. I've always been a Colt, S&W, Glock guy and for some reason (Still unknown even to me) I always thought of Sig as being a "James bond / Mission impossible / Designer type gun". Once I gave it a chance, I quickly found a fondness for this P365X and purchased a pair for the wife and I. There's a few nit pick quirks (Like with everything) but over all, I am embarrassed to admit to having my ignorant previous opinion. When I got around to mag loading, I couldn't wrap my head around what was going on. The first few were tough and it got progressively harder to the point that last round, I thought I would dent the brass and even thought the mag had the wrong spring. I'm glad I found this video. At least now, I'm pretty sure that I have not completely lost my mind and all of strength in my hands. It would be impossible for my wife to load these mags..... Maybe a factory included mag loader for ever gun sold would be a great idea.

Life saver…. Thank you! Husband just got me a Sig P365 and I was struggling to get these clips fill! People like me appreciate these types of videos

I highly recommend using an UpLULA to easily load these hardcore mags

3 years later and this is still very useful. I just bought mine today and had trouble loading it by hand and this helped tremendously. Thank you.

I just purchased a P365 back in December 2021 as an off-duty gun. I have pretty strong hands from training with martial arts weapons, and I had a very hard time where I could not fit that 12th round in the 12-round magazine. My firearms instructor who qualified me with it advised me that the zigzag follower spring is high tension and I’ll just have to break it in through use. He got the P365X and went through the same thing. A humbling experience, lol!

I bought my Sig today and this is my exact experience as well. Thank you for the information!

Thank you!!!! I just about broke my thumbs loading 3 magazines😂😂😂 This was very helpful!

I've got the 365 XL as well and ran into the same problems, the pen was a great idea. Gonna let the spring adjust to 11 rounds for a few days and then go to the range.

I’m glad you posted this! I thought it was just me😂 I was about to walk around with just 5-7 rounds😂😂😂 shit was whipping my ass lol

Thanks for making this. This problem is definitely not yours alone and I too nearly killed my thumb haha. The pen method works really well.

I love the tough guy on the video saying we are all a bunch of weaklings and don't have enough grip strength to load a magazine lol. The problem is not grip strength but the floorplates. The flush one it comes installed with made for the P365 XL which he is loading is recessed so the spring keeper can sit down into it making the magazine deeper, but the P365 floorplate is flat and not recessed. This shortens the length of the interior of the magazine by 1.06 millimeters which is about what I come up short when I'm trying to load the 12th round. You can see this by looking at the bottom of the magazine. With the XL floorplate installed the spring detent pin comes all the way through the hole and is flush with the bottom of the floorplate, but with the non-recessed floorplate made for the P365 the pin is sunk in 1.06 millimeters. I'm a bit mechanically inclined and thought for sure I didn't put it together correctly when I didn't see the pin come all the way through but it wasn't me. I wish Sig would engineer a recessed floor plate for us P365 owners or just call this an 11 round magazine. If you can open this picture you will see just how much taller the P365 floorplate is which pushes it up further into the magazine compared to the XL floorplate. www.sigtalk.com/attachments/12-rd-flr-plate-keerpers-jpg.400431/

Just bought my P365 today (new). I had traded my S&W AirLite .357 for a FN 503. Very similar to the Sig 365. The FN503 was a total disaster at the range testing it out. It only had 8 in the mag with one in the pipe. It would fir the first shot then either misfire or stovepipe. It did it 8 times with the first box of 115 grain FMJ Federal rounds. Then I tried my 124 grain hydra shok that i would be carrying, and same thing. Returned the gun to the dealer and bought what I intended on buying in the first place....P365. It comes with 10 round mags and by the 7th round my thumb was numb. Your idea helped me finish loading to 10. I have a Glock mag assist somewhere that I never needed until now. I hope the springs get easier over time. Thanks for the video.

Thanks for this video!! People that think they know keep telling me I must have weak hands. It is amazing, just because they have never had an issue, they do not believe a magazine can be that hard to load. I am stronger than most and have many guns and have never used a loader for any of them. There is no talking to some people, lol!

Great idea. Just bought a Sig P365 with a 10 round mag and couldn't get past 5 or 6 rounds without looking ridiculous trying to load the remaining. Was able to fully load a clip using your suggestion. Thanks for sharing!

I seriously thank you so much. I just got my SIG P365XL and I could NOT load the ammo. I was researching and came across your video. Which helped so much to get a basically free way to load these mags. Free meaning I don't have to buy a loader to help. I loaded 2 of my 12 round and 4 of my 15 round extended mags no problem!

This is by far the toughest mag I have ever loaded. The P365s spring is sooo tight. I guess after 10 years it will be about perfect though lol.

Bro, genius hack. New gun and mags. I loaded five with my fingers, gave up and then found your video. I was able to load 11 using the ball point pen and stopped because of the spring tension. Now I need to know the magic to change end cap on the 15 round mag. Thanks!

Thank you. I picked up the p365 sas a couple of days ago. Loading the magazines was kicking my butt. I got on of those speedloads. It helped some but your way is much easier. I wish i had seen your video yesterday, it would have saved me some money.

As I said in another video, getting that 12th round in is like the feats of strength during Festivus.

im a glock guy but today got a p365, my first non-glock pistol, after lots of research decided it was a great gun for what i needed and had a pretty good reputation. 1st i couldnt use the slide release it was so hard to operate, then i struggled to load the mags. man i was frustrated but i figured it all out. ive never had to break in my glocks :)

Thank god I’m not the only one. Got one today and after 9 rounds of 10 my fingers r bleeding

THANK YOU! I have the 17 round mag, and just like everyone else said, I thought it was just me. Appreciate you making and posting this.

I felt like a wimp loading this mag. Very happy to see the pen technique. Thanks for posting the video.

Thanx man! It was very helpful to know this wasn't a me issue! I forced mine so hard, and then it wouldn't load into the gun, I had to force it in, then when I unloaded the mag the slide wouldn't lock back because the spring got messed up, I disassembled it and put it back together which fixed that problem, but I'm going to take your advice and load 9 for now.

P320 mags are easier to load than most, while the P365's are at best 3 times more difficult. Maglula works on both and on most 9mm mags. It is one of the best accessories I've purchased.

This is unconventional but I love it. About destroyed my thumbs at the range with my 365 xl. Thanks for the tip!

I just barely got 7 in a 12 extended mag, there was no way id be able to get past it. Using the pen got me all 12 in, thank you so much!

Thanks. Just picked up my 10 rd pistol today. Couldn't get past 7 rds. Your Bic solution is great.

I found a $6 fix. Ordered the ISMI Plus 5% 10 round mag spring from NDZ Performance. Ran this in both 12 round XL mag and 12 round 365 mag (with factory 365 finger extension). I can load 12 rounds much easier. Full mags will actually load with action closed. I left it fully loaded for 5 days to break in. Function and slide lock was great throughout my last 3 shoots! Web site says the material endures longer but gonna see how it's does long term.

When I was a 10 year old kid I always reloaded my dads magazines for him jo problem. Fast forward 30 years I get my own gun and I couldnt get more than 5 rounds in. I thought wow I cant believe I did this as a kid. Glad I found your video it made me happy that it wasnt just me struggling with reloading with it.

That was me last night. I only got 8 into the 10 bullet cartridge. I appreciate the tip. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

Thank you for making this video. We don't have weak hands! :)

I’m so glad I found this. After struggling with my pride for 15 minutes I threw in the towel. 😅

Glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem. Took my XL to the range yesterday for the first time and couldn't load either mag past 5/6 rounds.

That's crazy using a pen like that. Just buy the mag Lula loader. I have one but even with that mag Lula the 12 round was almost impossible to get that last round into the magazine. Then it wouldn't seat in the gun when I loaded it and when I finally got it to seat after banging on the bottom of it which is not a good thing the slide wouldn't rack! It was just jamming up on that last round instead of sliding back over it and picking it up on the return. In sigs little manual it says to lock the slide back put the magazine in and then release the slide and it will put one in the chamber. Eventually I got it to work by simply putting 11 into the magazine putting one in the chamber with the slide and then putting two more rounds into it after popping out the magazine. Kind of a pain in the ass but I suppose it's a good thing to have a good strong spring. Basically had the same problem with the 15 round mags that came with this tacpac.

Got 11 rounds in no problem but despite my best efforts and about 20 attempts I could not for the life of me get that 12th. Thanks for the trick with the pen. Got it in that time, no problem. Stiffest damn mags Ive ever loaded!

This is funny for me, in a good way, I injured my thumbs last year AND I'll be 70 next month. I bought a S%W CSX with a similar mag and i couldn't get more than 5 rounds in. Thought I was falling apart and went to get a mag loader (easy) and resigned to use it from now on. I watched this video today and walked to the bedroom and got out my 1911 and loaded it right up easy. Gee Thanks Guy!!!

Having big fingers and this ridiculously tight magazine is an exercise in frustration. Nice low cost solution!

I had the same problem with my p365 12 round mags. Even the 10 round mag wasn't easy. I actually bent the ramp on an uplula loader trying to get bullet number 12 in. I kept the mags loaded for a few months.. and would unload and reload a couple of times a week. Now i can get all rounds in by hand. The 12th round is still tight.. but very doable.

Load assist tool is a GODSEND for these P365 clips 🤣

lol, glad it's not just me.. just got home from the range with my new XL. Thanks for the vid

Also, every 2 to 3 rounds, you need to slam the mag into your hand and make sure the rounds are going in correctly, and THEN slam the back of the mag into your hand to make sure they all SEAT to the rear of the mag... It DOES help for the last round, and after you have 12 rounds, you SHOULD be able to slam the mag again and STILL have some slack.

The cost of a mag loader is small in comparison to the amount spent on the firearm and ammo that will go through it. I bought two different styles of mag loaders to try out.

Lmaoo I just got through watching the vid of the guy telling me I have weak hands

Last guy tried making every other guy a girly-man w/dead fish hands! I know I don't have weak hands, yet I struggled to fully load that 12 round double stack magazine! Screw it, I'm getting a speed loader.

Thanks for the video. This trick worked like a charm. I added a pen to my gun case.

Thanks for the great idea. That last round you’re trying to get in will never go in. Rewatch the video and count the rounds going in - it’s already at full capacity. I like the idea with a plastic pen though!

tightest most strongest spring of all mags i’ve ever loaded made me consider selling my p365x back to the retailer that 12th rd is a complete bitch & will test all your strength and bone density

I’m glad I’m not the only one who was having massive struggles…thanks.

I feel so much better after watching this video.. I felt like an idiot trying to load mine!

Thanks for this! As a woman, my hands aren’t quite as strong. This really worked!

Thanks I just boat a loader on ebay for 10 bucks but its not here yet.I tried your video and it worked.I got all 10 rounds in.The 10th was hard and i thought I bent the lips but it worked.Thnx!

I thought it was just me! Thanks for making me laugh.

2 year old video saved my flippin hands man. loaded the first mag and no chance to get the other mags loaded without this tip.. TYTYTYTY

I had the same issue. The pen made it so damn easy lol good deal man much appreciated

Just bought 2 365’s for myself and wife. Yes. Very hard to load but in the SIG case was a Maglula loader. Makes loading SO much easier!. I guess SIG had a lot of complaints LOL.

I thought it was me. Thanks so much for the tutorial

Seeing this makes me feel normal again. I was like WTF is wrong with me not being able to get this thing fully loaded.

Totally usefull. I thought I was doing something wrong. 12ths in & Bic in the bag. Thank you

Legend has it, it only really holds 11. Only the God’s can load 12.

Bruh this video was absolutely the most useful thing. An I thought I was gonna break my finger trying to load these things in.

had to lol; I thought it was just ME! holy fawk, what a pita...ordered upula

I thought I was the only one! Thanks for the idea!

Thank you I busted my knuckle open trying to load it

I just received 2 15rd mags for my new XL and I thought I was doing something wrong until I saw this video. I have a 9mm speed loader and I decided I was going to relentlessly shove the full 15 rds. After about 2 - 3 cycles of loading and unloading, the spring loosened up a tad bit. I guess it’ll take some breaking in. Oh well. Still a great pistol.

Thank God for you brother. Here I thought I was frail

New to hand guns! Thought I had pretty strong hands until I tried loading 365XL mags. Got 5 in and thought damn there has to be a trick I’m not seeing. Thx for video 👍🏻

liked the video and thanks! I had no pen put a couple pencils. One with the eraser about gone, that one worked perfectly. It would even jam sideways a bit and stick. I could load then easily remove the pencil.

I Couldn't even get the 11th in, now I have biceps on my fingers. $20 and $30 for a Speed Loader is so worth it.

glad i came across this , i thought i am too weak lol

Just got some and have never had any pistol I could not load a magazine all the way. Thanks for the heads up. Ridiculous for what they charge for these. Note to self...SHTF, have Bic pens in the bug out bag.......

Thanks! Thought it was just my weak hands lol, never had this problem with steyr aug mags lol

You just need to use BOTH thumbs to push a new round down and HOPE it catches before you lose strength to hold it anymore, lol --- I bought an aftermarket speed loader that DOESNT work, so I was forced to learn how to do it without any tools... NOW im a fucking PRO, and I can do all three mags without any breaks! Good luck!

Yep, the Sig mags are HARD to load. I use the Glock speed loader. Works great and is less than 10 bucks. Make sure to get the Glock loader that fits the 43x. Works perfect for the 365

Purchased this gun yesterday, .My thumb is killing me also. Love the gun. The spring to so tight would not chamber that 12th round, so I only use 11 in the magazine.

Super helpful video. Thank you!

The struggle is real. I have a Maglula loader, and it helps with the first few rounds. After that, the rounds start nosing down a little and it binds up.

I don't feel so bad now. Thanks. I could only get to 4 b4 I found ur video. 😁👍

I thought that it was just me. Just bought the P365 Fuse. I'm going to try this.

Haha so glad I found this and know I’m not alone had a rough day w my new toy today at the range lmao

“Maglula UpLULA Universal Pistol Magazine Speed Loader.” Problem solved. I am NOT affiliated! I’ve owned them for years. I paid ~$35 total for a new one to go in the case with the 365. I own 5 of the Sig 365 mags. 2 from factory with pistol and 3 purchased extra. Absolute PTA to load! First 3 or 4 rounds are OK. Then, forget about it! In all 5 mags! This is not my first rodeo. I've used one, but never EVER “needed” a speed loader in my life, until now. Worst loading mags ever. $50 a pop! Great pistol.

And I thought I was just a weak man😂. Glad to see it's been pretty much everyone struggling.

Damn thank god for this I thought I was spanking my chicken too much 😂

I never had problems on any mag before...... I bought the contraption 29.95 My thumb was killing me and I could not physicly put the last 3 rounds in. The contraption was fast and easy

i'm glad to know that i'm not the only one...it's hard, man.

Excellent video.

Thanks, You helped me without using the 🖊 ...Just how to properly load it.. ..

You can loosen up the spring like this: Get a long rigid object (like the handle side of a spoon or wrench) and shove it down the empty mag a few dozen times, actuating the spring thru the full range of motion. My mags are significantly easier to load now, I have no feeding issues.

Glad it was not just me. I did it by hand bit I thought I had something wrong.

It's f****** ridiculous that Sig doesn't send a speed loader with these handguns.

I have a speed loader and I could only get 11 in one mag and 4 in the other. Before watching this video I thought they might have had some obstruction in them. I was looking for a way to take my mag apart. Interestingly enough , it only appears to be a problem with the 12 round mags. I don’t have a problem with my 17 round mag.

Thank you so much for this video , I had a 365 tac pac and my grandpa had the 365x and the 365 tac was easy for him to rack and load the magazine so I traded him and these mags were a nightmare compared to my others. The magazines that come with the 365x I have are made in the USA . My old tacpac came with mags in Italy, which I believe are made by mecgar which I prefer

Ive got strong hands and have never had as much trouble with a mag as these sigs.

Jumpin' bejesus, I'm watching you and trying to load my magazines as well. I've got 3 in and am having difficulty with a 4th. This is nuts! Eventually I got them all in, but the magazine was closing so tightly I could not rack the slide! I can do it will 11 so will leave the mags with 11 shells for awhile. Can you imagine being in a life threatening situation and not being able to rack the slide?!

Holy crap I’m glad I’m not the only one here loading my 10 round mag for the first time 😅

This is such a disappointment. For a company that prides itself on quality this is atrocious. I thought for sure I was just doing something wrong but apparently it's just a faulty design. Sig should really get their shit together because this is basically false advertising. Probably the worst $50 I've ever spent.

I have 5, 12 round mags. All are very hard to get that 12th round in. And worse. On a loaded chamber. Try to seat the mag. It takes so much force. Speedy reloads are hard. Also. My slide scratches the top bullet in the mag. Cause there’s no wiggle room. I put 11 rounds in my spare mag now. Reloads are so much easier.