We ANNOYED the SELLER! So, we SURPRISE HIM! (EP33)
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10 ай бұрынWe run into a situation for a vintage Sports Cards collection. The seller gets frustrated with a LOW-BALL offer and we adjust and bring him a new BUYER...
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** We have 40+ FULL EPISODES, they are ALL RIGHT HERE! **
EPISODE 1 • We BUY ALL the Sports ... TEXAS
EPISODE 2 • DO NOT Sell These Card... MONTANA
EPISODE 3 • Should you BUY JUNK WA... MONTANA
EPISODE 4 • SELL ALL HIS CARDS for... COLORADO
EPISODE 5 • Can we find RARE Sport... TEXAS
EPISODE 6 • Heartwarming Facebook ... WASHINGTON
EPISODE 7 • Our MOST INTENSE Sport... OREGON
EPISODE 8 • SELL YOUR ENTIRE eBAY ... WASHINGTON
EPISODE 9 • WE BOUGHT 6 MILLION SP... OKLAHOMA
EPISODE 10 • The MOST IMPORTANT CAR... OKLAHOMA
EPISODE 11 • The CASE FOR BUYING Sp... CALIFORNIA
EPISODE 12 • 40 YEAR OLD CARD COLLE... TEXAS
EPISODE 13 • FATHER LEAVES FAMILY I... WEST VA
EPISODE 14 • LET'S MAKE A DEAL! (EP... WEST VA
EPISODE 15 • He found MICHAEL JORDA... CALIFORNIA
EPISODE 16 • HE SURVIVED CANCER & O... CALIFORNIA
EPISODE 17 • Ultimate Score: $20K f... FLORIDA
EPISODE 18 • Does CANADA have the B... CANADA
EPISODE 19 • Is HE the BEST BOWMAN ... FLORIDA
EPISODE 20 • Crazy BASKETBALL CARD ... IDAHO
EPISODE 21 • LOOK WE WE FOUND in th... ARIZONA
EPISODE 22 • HE LIED! WHAT SHOULD W... TX/ID
EPISODE 23 • BEWARE! Craigslist DEA... WASHINGTON
EPISODE 24 • I Got BLINDSIDED! (EP24) NEVADA
EPISODE 25 • WE DESTROYED a 1952 MI... IDAHO
EPISODE 26 • WE TAKE OVER HIS CARD ... NEVADA
EPISODE 27 • FACEBOOK COLLECTION DE... TEXAS
EPISODE 28 • We NEEDED MORE MONEY f... TENNESSEE
EPISODE 29 • $50,000 STICKER SHOCK!... TEXAS
EPISODE 30 • We go ALL NIGHT with C... TEXAS
EPISODE 31 • From CARDS to CASTLE! ... TEXAS
EPISODE 32 • Epic $50,000 House & B... TEXAS
EPISODE 33 • We ANNOYED the SELLER!... TEXAS
EPISODE 34 • $15,000 Sports Card Ha... TEXAS
EPISODE 35 • CARDS HQ!!! with SPORT... GEORGIA
EPISODE 36 • CRAZY SITUATION in App... NORTH CAROLINA
EPISODE 37 • We find $11,000 collec... INDIANA
EPISODE 38 • CRAZIEST MEMORABILIA C... INDIANA
EPISODE 39 • $13,900 for GRADED CAR... KENTUCKY
EPISODE 40: • Buy ENTIRE ROOM or NOT... OHIO
EPISODE 41: • We offer $500,000 at G... SPOKANE
EPISODE 42: • NO CHOICE! I have to s... SPOKANE
EPISODE 43: • BUY ENTIRE SPORTS CARD... KENTUCKY
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@buffalorockcards 10 ай бұрын
These people that are saying your offer was insulting have obviously never negotiated before. There's some give and take in every negotiation. In my opinion, they are jealous of the success of this channel and want to find anything possible to nitpick what you're doing. These people probably pay sticker price for a car, so they don't insult the car salesman...🙄🙄
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Paddy… as a buyer they are probably only worth 50 cents. As a seller, you sell for as much as you can make. It’s a business transaction. You do not pay retail for a bulk collection. And what if the autos are fake? Consider these things in the future. And at the end of the day, the seller said no and Mike found him a buyer.
@BogusTime7 10 ай бұрын
@@paddyb456 You seem to be missing two very important pieces in this equation. 1 - in the sub $5 card market it's a free for all... if you want to spend the next 4 weeks of your life scanning and listing $2 to $5 cards, go for it. Most people don't want to do that and are okay with selling bulk for 50cents. That's extremely common in the card market and is usually a fair exchange for 'time'... 2 - Values are determined by one thing...what someone is willing to pay you. You can run comps until your fingers bleed, but if someone doesn't bring you money for that card, it's worthless info. If Ricky had 2 months between visits, it's probably fair to assume he tried to sell his collection for 8 weeks. He didn't... because money talks...not "comps"
@travmaster7003 9 ай бұрын
Obviously an employee of chasing cardboard for this comment but not for this "comment reaction" 😅
@mikekeeler6362 6 ай бұрын
Yeah there are a lot of dealers you take advantage of people who are selling their cards dealers are sometimes the worst
@erichasenohrl1780 4 ай бұрын
Jelous of the channel? Oh my god give me a break 😂 the chasing cardboard guys get 2 of these cards graded and sell them for more twice and much as they paid for the whole Lot. Some people should not comment if they don’t know how the business side of cards work.
@orangecrush4319 10 ай бұрын
Very odd and weird episode. Something very cringe about it.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
😬
@PattysCards 10 ай бұрын
It’s a shame how resellers try to take advantage of people to make a buck. Very low ball offer
@thepullsportscards 10 ай бұрын
The auto could be fake. He didn’t accept the offer. In the end, Mike found him a buyer. Why are you complaining.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
No one tried to "take advantage" of anyone... we gave a cash offer, expecting a counter, didn't get one... and that was that. We respected Ricky and found a solution via Ben.
@southerncalicards 10 ай бұрын
Mike I'm going to be honest, that was rude and you didn't even realize it. Improve your negotiation skills. Nonetheless, great video!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Mike didn’t do anything wrong. Ricky simply didn’t want to negotiate. Mike made an offer, expecting Ricky to come back with his number. It didn’t happen. So Mike found Ricky a buyer. Go watch the episode again from this perspective.
@southerncalicards 10 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD hahaha won’t apologize. we all know Mike is a wonderful person but imo you need to put him up on game on negotiating. hey we learn and move on. no harm done. love the channel!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@katelynhall4601 10 ай бұрын
That sweet man was too nice to tell you how garbage that 2k offer was lol talking about the costs of grading and shipping after saying half of it was to complete your own sets.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
It was an "offer".... part of the process of any of these deals. We make an offer and expect a back and forth. We had ZERO idea what he wanted.... if he would have countered on the spot we would have probably come to a deal.
@arthurrosen2819 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD How about not lying about your costs being 40%? Leave meat on the bone, you say? You wanted to leave no meat on his bones!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@grindstone11 7 ай бұрын
@@arthurrosen2819 It's a negation.. you do not start with what your break even point would be if it is a dealer. Time is something you do not consider with the 40% as well..
@Weezy10580 7 ай бұрын
I like the we offer 70% after fees, so basically they offer 55% which is garbage. I offer a straight 70-80% based on liquidity and usually my offers are accepted and we both walk away happy
@michaelkerns5410 10 ай бұрын
Make a deal? That’s not a deal that’s a rip off!!!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
What’s a rip off?
@BogusTime7 10 ай бұрын
2k. Come on man. I wouldn’t counter on that either. Thank goodness the harmonica saved the day.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, Ben is a collector. We are resellers, so we’re wanting the best deal for us. But we’re also glad we were able to find a buyer that made Ricky happy.
@johnmabie5266 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARDyou keep trying to justify this by saying Ben is a collector. But Mike is also a collector, and even said that he would be using some of these in sets that he was building! Perhaps he should have made it clearer which cards he was buying while wearing his collector hat, and which ones he was buying while wearing his Chasing Cardboard hat!
@SportsCardsAnonymous 9 ай бұрын
The gentleman in this episode is an absolute gem, wish him the best.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Same
@jaysummers2843 10 ай бұрын
What a guy. Every ballpark needs a guy like this!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@Weezy10580 7 ай бұрын
For sure
@stellarguy1667 10 ай бұрын
$2k-$3800. At first glance, yikes, not a good look because are you not THE guy who gives your partner value advice? Unless... the $2k offer was without a bunch of stuff or same deal? Just trying to think about why you knocked yourself down a few pegs in terms of respect.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, Ben is a collector. We are resellers, so we’re wanting the best deal for us. But we’re also glad we were able to find a buyer that made Ricky happy.
@stellarguy1667 10 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD Oh ok, I thought he just negotiated for you, did not realize he was keeping them for himself. Makes sense
@jesser9115 10 ай бұрын
This guy reminds me of all the greedy people I’ve dealt with through the years, they use all the same tactics
@thepullsportscards 10 ай бұрын
Not everyone collects commons. And if your smart… you buy for 50 cents each and resell for a $1. It’s called making money. Ben obviously isn’t interested in the commons.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Oh yeah? What tactics are those?
@TranscendentalThoughts 9 ай бұрын
I don't get why people who buy cards are so villainized. It's just business dudes. Y'all get real high on your horse real quick when you know you'd buy cards for $100 and sell them for $1,000,000 if you could. What's the problem?
@johnwayne9828 9 ай бұрын
@@TranscendentalThoughts because this hobby used to be filled with collectors. Now it's nothing but money hungry conmen looking to lowball their way to a lottery ticket.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@doncortez3857 10 ай бұрын
2000 that's sad....
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
It’s called negotiating. You give someone a lowball offer, they give you a higher offer, eventually, you meet somewhere in the middle, and both parties are happy. :)
@buyystocks 5 күн бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD low balling is not cool, or honest.respectful offers,the way to go.
@nate7palm226 10 ай бұрын
$2000 is completely insulting and disrespectful and I hope he deletes you guys number immediately smh of course we want that best deal but that's just ridiculous, no class at all
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Well...as you noticed after watching until the end.... he didn't delete our number...in fact, we worked out a deal that we liked. It was an "offer".... part of the process of any of these deals. We make an offer and expect a back and forth. We had ZERO idea what he wanted.... if he would have countered on the spot we would have probably come to a deal two months earlier.
@raymondheflin-jr1ls 10 ай бұрын
Did you not watch 😂😂😂
@user-zi2lp1lm5j 9 ай бұрын
Even if he would not come off of $4,000.... I am still a buyer. Great for a collector building set. But those EX to EXMT commons are WAY more than 50 cents.
@BaseballCollector 9 ай бұрын
They were far from ex to ex-my condition
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
The 50 cent price is what a reseller would buy them for, and then resell for $1 or more. Bulk purchases always should be discounted for the sake of the work that goes into it.
@chrisolivo6591 10 ай бұрын
It boggles my mind in 2023, people still negotiate like this. High ball offer, low ball offer, meet in the middle. It’s insulting on both sides. When I buy a car, or negotiate anything, I’m actually pretty honest. This is my price, can you meet it? If you can’t, that’s cool and we walk away. But the back and forth offers and playing poker face just never sits well with me.
@thepullsportscards 10 ай бұрын
Good luck getting the rest of the world to negotiate like you do.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Not everyone negotiates the same way. Ricky was not willing to with Mike, and there’s nothing wrong with his approach. At the end of the day, Mike actually helped Ricky get a buyer.
@jonathangoerlich9545 10 ай бұрын
$2000 was disgusting lol glad his buddy came in and was more fair
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
It was an "offer".... part of the process of any of these deals. We make an offer and expect a back and forth. We had ZERO idea what he wanted.... if he would have countered on the spot we would have probably come to a deal.
@prospectsrus282 10 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD you had zero idea what he wanted, but you had 100% idea of the lowball you offered LMAO
@travishouse6295 9 ай бұрын
@@prospectsrus282 exactly! these guys are clowns. There's nothing I hate more than low ball resellers like this buyer in the video.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Ha
@radicooldad5219 10 ай бұрын
he had no counter offer because $2000 was a super low ball offer, those players and autos worth a lot more than $2K - you could nickel and dime those commons and make 2K - I would have done the same or I would have been firm with 4K counter
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! As a reseller you have to factor in the time it takes to list thousands of cards. What is your time worth? Also what if the autos are fake? Are you willing to pay that price? Never negotiate on the “possibilities” of getting your money back. Make sure you are spending wisely and with caution.
@johnxgalt8312 8 ай бұрын
I agree, the commons are worth way more than 3 dollars a piece.
@Johndeplume. 10 ай бұрын
Thank you Mike, Ty, Ben, and the Chasing Cardboard team for this episode. Ricky seems like a character! Keep up the great work, gents. 👍
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@neightthegreight 10 ай бұрын
Low-ball a fella just cause he has more hair than you. SMH
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Haha. It was one of those hats with a wig!
@bradymania9312 10 ай бұрын
Ricky knew what he wanted. Good for him not even budging on the first offer. Without seeing all the conditions 4k looks like it's close to fair.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Ricky definitely had some conviction. If he would have countered I think we'd have likely got a deal done... but mad respect for Ricky.
@mikethesportshistorycollec1947 10 ай бұрын
Another great one. Fun to watch these.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Mike!
@buffalobraves9 10 ай бұрын
25:37 look at that gorgeous Yastrzemski rookie card just sitting there. I mean come on if that comes back a 7 that's $1K by itself.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Can’t buy based on the “what ifs”… gotta be smarter than that.
@buffalobraves9 10 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD isn't buying raw always "what ifs?". That's pretty much the game, right?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
@buffalobraves9 No. We do not buy with the dream of a card grading high. We buy based on its raw condition and hope it grades high enough to make a bigger profit. That is how we are able to produce these episodes. How much do you think it costs for our travel, flights, lodging, food, camera crew, editing, etc. there’s a lot of money put into each episode. Hope your enjoying them.
@davebolaton7639 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD Oh yes, because the collector selling his collection should make allowances for your camera crew's travel. That is total BS. YOU choose to drag around cameras that is on you.
@spcrec88 5 ай бұрын
They really wanted to take him to the cleaners lol
@nunzi83 10 ай бұрын
Mike. When you said. “Advice to a seller”. To be fair…. Your offer was very low. When offers are a lot less then what the value is. A lot of ppl won’t even counter. Also a lesson to buyers. Ppl might say they don’t have a clue in what values are… that’s not always true. Sometimes ppl want to see who there dealing with when negotiating etc.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Fair enough.
@carsonvanness1382 9 ай бұрын
Wow that centered Gibson rookie next to the 2nd year Rose at 25:15 didn't even get mentioned. That Gibson alone would bring at least $600.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@jakew7466 10 ай бұрын
$2000 was insulting. I buy and sell cards all the time as a dealer and for myself, and that was someone trying to take advantage of a person who openly admitted they didn't keep up with prices.
@Co-ClownWorld 10 ай бұрын
Exactly! He would make much more grading selectively from the many "commons" Mike claimed he was set building with. lololol
@nunzi83 10 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree more with you.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Jake, what would you have offered?
@raymondheflin-jr1ls 10 ай бұрын
Lol I love how people forget the buyer and offer you want ever they want to. It's your job as the seller to say yes or no. Dude acts like he has always offered everyone 100 percent of what a card is worth 😂😂😂
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
@paddyb456 Mike has not lost any credibility. He was saying that is the price he’d buy them for. They are worth more than 50 cents… on a good day. And lately most of these commons are sitting in our eBay stores, not selling. So yeah, we are not paying retail in a common card, nor should you.
@kenscardboard 10 ай бұрын
If Mike is keeping a lot of the cards for his collection then he should get the cards closer to comps. Cool stories from this gentleman.
@thepullsportscards 10 ай бұрын
Nobody should pay sticker prices for cards. Especially in todays market. You out an offer out there, a low offer, and the seller should comeback with his offer. It’s called negotiating. Ha
@kenscardboard 10 ай бұрын
@@thepullsportscards, agree. If you’re selling cards, know the price you want to sell them.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Mike brought a buyer to him, so it all worked out.
@305CardCollector 10 ай бұрын
Wrong. I’d rather hook up a collector than a reseller any day!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Ben is a collector.
@yowza3994 10 ай бұрын
Loving the guests you've had on recently.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Same here!
@davethedude23 9 ай бұрын
Love the pitch, Oh they are all raw. Got to love dealers. I should know, I use to be one.
@LegendsNeverDieCollection 10 ай бұрын
Glad Ben was able to get them!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely!
@EOTROutdoors 10 ай бұрын
Great episode! Can't wait for next week. Jeff
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks EOTRO
@dk_displays 10 ай бұрын
Amazing video. Good for Ricky but man that'd be hard to let go of something from over 60 years ago!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
#facts!!
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 10 ай бұрын
I deal in art and people often ask me how I get certain pieces......and some of them I obtain from collectors. What makes a collector sell? I call it " DDD" with a happy "R". Let me define it: Divorce Death Devastation (this could be medical or your car broke down) The happy "R" ? Retirement
@CORE1.8MINISTERIES 10 ай бұрын
Well that was interesting. I have to say I learned a lot and wow. Thank you
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@bromotion 10 ай бұрын
WOW! Awesome Stuff!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@vinnytompkins6898 10 ай бұрын
Hate when sellers incorporate time of selling and grading into vintage cards where they make a killing if authentic. Heres an idea if you go to offer bring a person with you who can authenticate and make an offer and deduct shipping to level the price if need be. Otherwise buy autos authenticated if you cant do the latter scenario.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Easier said than done. We’ve picked up some amazing looking vintage only to get rejected by a grader because they were trimmed or colored. You can’t catch everything by holding them. So looking at a card and guessing, “it might be a 6”, is dangerous. You have to buy under comps.
@soluscristus1 10 ай бұрын
I appreciate that you guys went and found a collector who was willing to pay closer to retail. You didn’t have to do that. Guy probably would have taken less. The $4k counter was smart on his part but I doubt he knew the true value.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. That's definitely how we felt as well.
@pfriderfan 9 ай бұрын
4 grand is a great deal. Regardless of the work involved once purchased. I would easily have paid the 4.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
👍
@jackiechapman8189 10 ай бұрын
Chicken Train FTW..🎉😅 That's my favorite part of the show..😍😮 Love this guys.. Take care..👍💕🔥👊
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Us too!
@keielement1 10 ай бұрын
Great to see Ben!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
👍
@snakeonia7542 10 ай бұрын
Black border cards in SGC holders hurt my eyes.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Absolutely NOT a waste of money....especially vintage.
@coltongrindstaff8309 9 ай бұрын
Maybe the majority of comments on the video saying you lowballed is maybe a sign to see that maybe it’s time to acknowledge you did
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, we appreciate you watching!
@whitesoxfancardcollector 10 ай бұрын
Cool conclusion to this story! Nice baseball pic Mike!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
👍
@johnnylaw1875 10 ай бұрын
I was fortunate enough to of met Rita this Summer at Play Ball Sports Cards and Memoribilia when we went to Texas on a family trip that shop is great.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Nice people!
@PositiveBreaks 10 ай бұрын
This was such an interesting episode. How cool were some of those stories?!?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
He had a ton of stories. So many cool experiences.
@nordiq21 9 ай бұрын
Lowball offer. And saying they need to be graded is BS, just another way to undercut the owner. Did you happen to find a couple Rock autos in there 😂😂😂😂
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Not sure if you heard… the Rock auto came back real…. So that joke isn’t very relevant anymore. 😂
@drewinness186 10 ай бұрын
That $2,000 offer was so bad glad he held out for $3800 Good episode
@buffalobraves9 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, just the signed HOFers would go for $2K. That was really a lowball offer.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Keep in mind, Ben is a collector. We are resellers, so we’re wanting the best deal for us. But we’re also glad we were able to find a buyer that made Ricky happy.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
What if they’re fake? Then what? Your out thousands. Be smart.
@drewinness186 10 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD you guys are professionals that's kinda part of your job he also said they were 1000% real in the video which I thought was kinda interesting he said that
@buffalobraves9 10 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD I would make that stipulation with the seller: If they come back fake then the deal is void. He's on camera, make that handshake agreement and everyone knows the rules.
@michaelmelendez4848 9 ай бұрын
I thought the offer was insultingly low and I honestly think Mike knew it , you can see it in his face. As far as Ty answering every negative comment with a condescending one , seems about right from what I have seen from him lately. I said this to you during the Rock auto incident , less is more. But you tend to have to defend yourself a lot less when you’re doing things honorably.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Hey Michael, not sure what comments you’re referring to, but Ty rarely reads the comments nor replies. Thanks for watching and supporting the show. Our team works hard to put out FREE content, and we are not going to stand down on the insults and haters. Mikes offer was an offer. He was willing to spend $3k+. Mike is a business man and was trying to see where Ricky’s mind was. Mike was being cautious as those autos could be fake. Ricky didn’t know his price, so we brought Ricky a buyer to pay his price.
@wesley-collects-cards7805 9 ай бұрын
So sick of the negativity in this world and people acting holier than thou when no one is perfect. Love the channel! Your negotiation is YOUR negotiation, and I respect that. Everyone who loves to support each other in life, is the side I’m on.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Good perspective.
@afxaloha89 9 ай бұрын
I recently bought a brand new car and one of the dealerships was pretty upset that I wasn't willing to give them a counter offer, it was because they tried to sell me the car for 8k above other written offers and went 1200$ under other offers for my tradein. I'm guessing no counter offer here for the same reason.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Yes
@MeeMee-ih6tu 10 ай бұрын
Really enjoyable. Missed ty's energy for the first half but Ricky was great to watch. Good for him for sticking to his guns on his price.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Ty will be back in a few weeks.
@jaketrustin 10 ай бұрын
Oh my! That was.... uh... out there lol. Gotta love the chicken train song at the end haha! It was also good to see Ben make a reappearance. He was super cool in the episode you had with him earlier. I wish Mike could've got the cards he wanted but maybe next time!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
No doubt!! Thanks for tuning in Jake!
@jaketrustin 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARDyou’re welcome! Keep it up!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
We’re trying.
@jerryschullar2780 9 ай бұрын
Id love to see what my dads collection would be valued at. Hes in his mid 60s and has baseball cards mint he got when he was 6 or 7yo. Most from the 50s and 60s.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Where you located? Email us at collections@chasingcardboard.tv
@eltoroloco1936 9 ай бұрын
The signed Topps Mays, Banks and Brooks are some amazing cards.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Totally agree
@ScottEndsley 9 ай бұрын
Selling all of these cards (even if some of them are PC Cards) is A LOT of work, people saying this was a lowball offer simply don’t understand the value of time nor do they understand how negotiating works. Apparently neither does the seller.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Couldn’t agree with you more Scott!
@travishouse6295 9 ай бұрын
This buyer made himself look so bad in this video. You tell the guy that you're looking to fill your collection and three minutes later you try to explain that the cost of grading everything is going to affect your offer amount. Sleazy.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Nah.
@travishouse6295 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD How blind the greedy are.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Haha
@devinstator 9 ай бұрын
You guys do an awesome job of showing the process and being pretty transparent. I understand that you have to start somewhere in a negotiation but I think in a video like this where you guys have the knowledge and seller does not, then it is simply not about getting it for the lowest price. I think taking a picture of what was there and coming back to him with a price would have made sense. When he mentioned he wanted to talk to his son and he couldn’t get him on the phone, no need to get frustrated. It made Mike look like that used car salesman trying to get a deal right now. I just think that isn’t who Mike is and maybe would reconsider the next time. I am happy abdeal was made and that both parties are happy. Keep up the great videos!!!
@johnxgalt8312 8 ай бұрын
He wanted those cards pretty bad. When the man said " I'll have to talk to my son he said "can you call him now". Come on man, you know those cards are worth more than 2500 hundred dollars. They always come up with that excuse, " well I'll have to get them graded and althenticated, there's got to be a little meat on the bone for me". Just give the cards to your grandchildren and a little knowledge of their true worth.
@OMGstillfaded503 10 ай бұрын
I like Ricky’s style - straight free balling
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
For sure!
@Brand-ju4jm 2 ай бұрын
I was that kid in the ian kinsler jersey, thank you kind sir that made me a baseball fan for life
@imrbrt 10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this episode a lot despite the clickbait title.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Shhhh
@MichaelWiser-nj9dw 10 ай бұрын
I buy old toys, sports cards, and other collections all the time. I try to pay 50-60% of possible value for items. Even if you plan on keeping some or most of the items, its factored in when you think of all the time and energy it takes to sell off what you dont keep.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Agreed. Some folks just don’t understand because they do not have that mindset of reselling.
@user-cc3ym3qc4x 7 ай бұрын
You can resell all those cards for over $30,000.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 7 ай бұрын
No... you can't. If you watched until the end, it was sold to a buyer who paid "comps" for the collection.
@user-cc3ym3qc4x 7 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD $3800 is nowhere near comps. Making the old guy think $30k worth of cards is only worth $3800 is taking advantage of the elderly and inexperienced. Let’s be real, people like that old man are the easiest to take advantage of and that’s exactly what happened. You gathered that info, that he is clueless, when you initially started the conversation with him to see how much he knows
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 7 ай бұрын
@@user-cc3ym3qc4x yeah, its EXTREMELY close to comps….in fact, after two months of trying to sell those cards it was the best offer he received. (He had it publicly listed)
@anthonythomasexperience 10 ай бұрын
I love this story 😊❤ and great buy also
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@danaockwig8992 10 ай бұрын
I'd pay 3200, good episode so far
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
👍
@jmikefitness 10 ай бұрын
Are you doing a follow up on this deal?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
We did. Keep watching the episode.
@jmikefitness 10 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD I don’t see any update on the older cards.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Ah gotcha. You asking about the cards Ben bought… those are going into his collection.
@GarySuley 10 ай бұрын
Another banger episode! Good job, Mike & Ben! ⚾️🔥
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Gary!
@leehaskins307 10 ай бұрын
I find these videos of u chasing cardboard in the top 10% of my card hobby viewing on ubute…. its like a documentary… please keep them going...
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
We aim too!
@rara1996 9 ай бұрын
I think when making an offer that would be considered low you need to gauge the actual seller's motivation/emotion of why they are selling. I don't see anything necessarily wrong with a 50% offer but if the seller is somewhat tied to the cards you may lose a deal by going this path. Its just a reality that some sellers may be rigid in negotiations while others are pretty liberal and like the back and forth. A lower offer could insult the seller (whether intentional or not). I can see playing this game with another dealer who may be motivated to move inventory, but i feel collectors are more emotional about their collections and what they think they are worth. A buyer must also be willing to walk away if the pricing doesn't work for you either.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
We’ve walked away many times. We always look up the cops, and we’ve done this enough to know what things sell for, and what most cards are worth. We have sold hundreds of thousands of cards over the last couple of years, the market is rocky. Plus whenever buying Raul autographs, You should never pay retail price, they could be fake.
@trentfable4069 3 ай бұрын
In the 90's when u walked into a card shop well before PCA was around you could possibly see some of these vintage cards marked at 400 and up for the top names like Aaron and Mays. The commons aren't worth much. Though its a great story and a personal collection holds a great deal more than monetary value, they just aren't worth much today. I wouldn't have offered more that 4k tops for what I seen. You take a huge risk with vintage, overpaying isn't something you do as a collector or investor.
@te2edgesportscards177 10 ай бұрын
An offer of $2000 was low...too low, especially if some were planned for PC. I am happy to see Ricky received $3800, although that might have been a stretch - $3,000 might have been the sweet spot if some were going to the PC. The title and image "HE REFUSED TO SELL" also seemed a bit click baity, based on what was filmed (maybe he refused to sell and we didn't see that)." He said he needed to talk with his son before he could give you a response. The fact that it took two months was likely indicative of his emotional connection to the cards and less so about him stunning you by "refusing" to sell.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Well he did refuse to sell. And Mikes offer was AN OFFER. it was not his last offer. Ricky didn’t come back to him with a price until two months later. Plus, what if the autos were fake? How would you feel about paying $4k for fake autos?! ummmmm…. Gulp!!!
@JW-sz7ku 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARDthat would be a ROCKy slope to climb
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
*The Rock auto was real. Go watch our reveal video… it’s in our Live video section.
@JW-sz7ku 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD as real as most the psa 10s lol
@te2edgesportscards177 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD The video did not show multiple offers that were refused, at least from what I saw. Maybe I missed that? Ricky did take two months to respond, which is pretty ridiculous if, in fact, his rationale for not accepting the original offer of $2,000 was that he had to "check in with his son." I feel badly for his son if it takes two months to check in on something like that! To be clear: I don't think Mike's offer was ridiculously low. In fact, I probably would have offered less than that as I am not into autos for my PC, like Mike is. My questioning of the offer was more about the delta between what was going to be going into Mike's PC vs. what was going into the online store for resale. If I am buying for my PC, I tend to offer a bit more than if I am buying for resale if the purchase is from a collector. But, I suppose each of us are different in that regard. I thought $3800 was high, for me, but if the autos are what you're into, then there were some nice ones there. In terms of autos being real or fake, that's not really my steez as I don't acquire autos for PC or resale. It's not a lake I choose to swim in but I can appreciate the appeal. I agree, paying $4,000 for fake autos would not have been high on my priority list either. Even paying $2,000 for fake autos would not have been my cup of tea. All in all, the episode ending made it right. Ricky got what he wanted for the cards and the other fella got some nice vintage cards with autos. Overall, solid episode despite the title which did, IMO, feel a bit on the click baity side. This show is so well done, even the semblance of a click bait-ish title is not needed IMO. The show quality speaks for itself and I appreciate the work that goes into them - keep chasing:)
@djflipping6506 10 ай бұрын
Not an insult offer, its reality people. Ben paid up because he knows vintage is the best investment long term.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Ben is a collector. Mike was looking for keep couple but resell the rest. As a show, we sell cards to produce more episodes!
@jerryschullar2780 9 ай бұрын
Do you ever come to Northern Michigan?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Not yet
@Xstatic26x 10 ай бұрын
Ricky is a smooth business man that is for sure
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
👌
@yodapapavintageamericana 10 ай бұрын
I would have paid 4 k personally but im a set builder
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
That’s why we brought Ben back. He’s a set builder too.
@ClementeCollector 10 ай бұрын
Everyone loves sausage but not many like seeing how the sausage is made. This was a great episode, it’s unfortunate that Mikes starting offer is what alot of people are glued on. No one wants to see a seller get taken advantage of but the cold hard truth is- buyers are trying to make money, and 20-30% isn’t enough to pay the bills. Glad to see Mike brought in Ben to make a deal and this awesome collection, with the provenance of Ricky’s stories, is now curated!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Mike was waiting for an rebuttal offer from Ricky. Didn’t happen. Mike would have paid more. But, he has to be cautious with those autos. What if they’re fake.
@unclestinky6388 10 ай бұрын
A buyer could verify in advance that all the decisionmakers will be present and ready to sell.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Not that easy. Most sellers are ambiguous.
@jmurillo4682 27 күн бұрын
$2000 was insulting
@vinnytompkins6898 10 ай бұрын
So bringing ben got you the cards but cost you 1800.00 more and if cardsgrade authentic as believed at 2,000 you would have doubled your profit and at your price yes it was a low ball offer at 2,000 kudos to ricky for renegotiating deal.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Ben is a collector. Collector often pay more. Mikes intention was to keep couple and sell the rest. Can’t make money real king when you pay full price. And for Ben’s sake… we hope those autos are real! 😬
@RippinPacks4you 5 ай бұрын
I'm going back and watching all the episodes I missed..my work season starts in April and I can't wait to buy a hat to show my support. In the couple months I've been on KZfaq your channel is #1 for me, helping me learn a lot since I've been out of the hobby for the last 15 years ...Thank you and keep chasing ❤
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 5 ай бұрын
We’ll have some hats at the Dallas card show in a couple of weeks.
@RippinPacks4you 5 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD I'm in Massachusetts..lol
@DOXIECHON 10 ай бұрын
2000 was very low, glad you came up some.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
It was low on purpose. If Ricky came back with $4k, Mike was ready to raise his offer. It’s negotiating 101.
@evanfraser64 10 ай бұрын
I picked the Big Train too.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Haha
@stevezeppieri 10 ай бұрын
This was awesome
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
👍
@carolinatarheels7903 9 ай бұрын
I’m not going to bash about a low number but a lot of people buy large lots on eBay for really good money and that is even if they are in Very Good condition. Based on the eye appeal these cards looked to be better than very good and a lot of bidders are like Mike, looking to buy bulk to start or finish a set and bulk for each of these years rarely come up. People will over pay to get what they need and then offset that buy selling the lower grade cards they already have for sets and upgrading with cards that this guy had. Obviously don’t sell the star cards with the lots but with as many cards from all different series that he had each of the lots bulked by each year would get this guys thousands per lot. Add in the star cards even in raw condition individually and he could have made a fortune.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback.
@joeygarrison92 3 ай бұрын
I'm catching up on videos and this is the first video I've watched that I felt the need to cringe when watching. Comments below are pretty critical of this video (which is not the norm on this channel) - I thought the first offer was weak and good on Ricky for not really entertaining it, but also good on Mike for finding a buyer for Ricky. I wish the Chasing team would be less combative in responses to people in this specific video, but it is what it is.
@markmaestas1129 10 ай бұрын
Personally, I think the $2000 starting offer was on the low side, but fair. There actually was a fair amount of risk in the deal. Although I believed the seller's story of how he got the autos, for them to have any real value most collectors will want authentication. And that will require time, work, and more money to get them authenticated. And what if they didn't come back as authentic?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Glad you see things the way Mike did. Thanks for watching.
@arthurrosen2819 9 ай бұрын
Fair? How is that anywhere close to fair? He could sell the signed Aaron for over $2k! The remainder would be pure profit!
@johnwayne9828 9 ай бұрын
How is someones opinion at psa any better than someone saying they got it in person? All you're getting from psa is a holder and an opinion and I've seen plenty of cards slabbed by psa with obviously fake autos.
@markmaestas1129 9 ай бұрын
@@johnwayne9828 I agree, PSA is just someone's opinion. But right or wrong, collector's will almost always pay more for an autograph that has been authenticated.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
What if the autos are fake? That is a risk we are not taking. So we have to make our estimates in a safe place.
@kevinevans8370 10 ай бұрын
I know thus probably has nothing to do with anything, but I was wondering how far Mike made it in his baseball career? I loved seeing the younger pictures there, and that story was interesting too. Jim Sundberg sounds like he was a great guy! Well, thanks if you answer my question and I thought this episode was another great one!
@BaseballCollector 10 ай бұрын
I played into college at the Air Force Academy. Once I got into college it felt very much like a job and as much as I loved the game, I just didn't play well and that was the end of it.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching
@chrisandedina 10 ай бұрын
Its very difficult when people dont have a price. I am not sure if they do have a price but they dont way to say
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Not sure Ricky did. And Mike was 100% ready to come up on his price. Hard to negotiate when only one person is doing the work.
@chrisransbottom2775 10 ай бұрын
The price depends on how many cards are from the high number series. Those can fetch some significantly higher prices.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
👍
@lovetruth8549 9 ай бұрын
60% used to sound like a low ball offer to me before I watching a card pricing video by Baseball Collector Investor Dealer. Now it makes perfect sense. Was the collection only worth 4-5k? To Mike it was.
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Yes Chris explains is very well. We can’t buy retail prices or eBay comps because we have too much time invested. If you wanna see another episode… we need money to pay for the next collection, the gas, hotels, etc! It gets expensive! Haha
@lovetruth8549 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD yes, good point
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for understanding
@randylochtefeld2806 4 ай бұрын
Selling to anyone other than a fellow collector requires taking wholesale pricing.
@bobo44donemilking51 10 ай бұрын
I sold 200 1959 Topps baseball Commons on eBay and they only bring,50 cents and they where in very good to excellent condition
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
👍
@ryancane697 9 ай бұрын
You were trying to negotiate and start with a lower offer with someone who was not use to that. Know your audience
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Nope not the case. Off camera, he knew what he was doing. Thanks for watching.
@arthurrosen2819 9 ай бұрын
Let me first say that I am a collector not a dealer. Card dealers are worse than car salesmen and insurance salesmen on the theives totem pole! Morgan RC, Clemente, Rose, Mays, Aarons, Yaz, Robinson RC signed, Perry RC signed and many more signed cards and all the other 50's and 60's cards right out of the packs!. The signed Aaron alone is was worth $2k! Yeah, yeah, yeah, you have costs like shipping, grading, time, sort through them, sell them and "all the things that go into the business part" bullshit. If I was offerred $2K for that collectioin I first would have laughed in nhis face and then tell hiom to start running while I get my shotgun! On a $2,500 Aaron card it's costing him $1,000 to do all the shit he's describing? I would sell the cards on eBay, or FB (14% fee) and shipping is $5 with tracking. Dealers are simply lying sacks of s*^t!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. Yeah we get it, some folks don’t like the negotiating. Sounds Ike you like to pay eBay comps. We don’t. We’re trying to fund the next episodes (which are expensive). For you to watch these episodes, we have to play for flights, rental car, gas, food, lodging, and then the other expenses. So hopefully you don’t qualify those costs into your “bull$h1t” category. Oh… and we have to pay the film crew and editor. You think we do this for free? Can’t. Our team has families and bills to pay. *Most sellers reach out to us, knowing we DO NOT pay retail prices. Are the autos real? Not sure. Definitely shouldn’t pay that price on the possibility of them being fake. The $2k offer was Mike’s opening offer. Next step should have been Ricky naming his price. Then go from there. Mike was ready to pay $3k-ish. But Ricky didn’t go there. So, we brought Ricky as “collector” that was willing to pay closer to Ricky’s asking price. So, having heard that, we’d love for you to hang around and keep watching. But we ask that you keep your comments family friendly, as a lot of kids watch and read the comments.
@BaseballCollector 9 ай бұрын
Please show me where that Hank Aaron card has ever sold for $2k
@michaelrennicke2156 10 ай бұрын
$2,000 was a safe starting point of negotiating. Even though Ricky has stories behind the autos, that alone does not authenticate them. I have looked atcollections with lots of stories behind them. It only takes getting burned once to teach you that you have to be careful when spending thousands of dollars. For a reseller, you have to leave room for fakes. Same with condition. You can make your best estimate on condition/grade, but opinions vary. At least graded cards are done by a third party with no vested interest in the individual card. Perhaps a better offer on this collection would have been a contingency on authentic autos and conditions. Like, if these come back as authentic and these come back above a certain grade I will give you an additional amount.
@thepullsportscards 10 ай бұрын
This!!!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Good points.
@johnwayne9828 9 ай бұрын
But you'll trust someones opinion on authenticity from psa? I've seen plenty of "autographs" in slabs that are obvious fakes.
@michaelrennicke2156 9 ай бұрын
@@johnwayne9828 Plenty? I personally would not be qualified enough to make that call (no background in validating autographs). But if I want an opinion on authenticity, yes, I would certainly want to get an opinion from a reputable company that publicly has a lot to lose from being wrong. How else should someone attempt to validate a signature? If your argument here is that errors do get made, then I agree. People can be fooled and some fakes are better than others. So, there are no fool proof ways to authenticate autographs. You are only encapsulating a card with the opinion of someone with more knowledge on the subject and a lot more resources to make that opinion than me.
@nicholasb8799 10 ай бұрын
Love it.....
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Glad you love it!
@brushben22 10 ай бұрын
What’s so wrong with a buyer trying to get a deal?
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
It’s not allowed. You have to pay full price. 🤣
@JustinKircherjK 10 ай бұрын
Another great episode. From watching Mike's videos over the years, he knows how to get good deals, but appeared to have met his match. I'm surprised the two didn't meet in the middle at $3k, but it was cool to see Ben get a shot and Ricky to get an added bump for some rare vintage autos. I was surprised by the continuity error with the Larry Doby card. Clearly the card shop stop happened before going to Ricky's house. I know Ricky asked Mike if he knew the significance of Doby, but the edit could have had him answer yes without him showing off the card. A rare nitpick, as I really do enjoy the series of episodes!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, we had to adjust the timeline for the sake of the viewing experience. Thanks for the comment though...and yeah, I think if Ricky would have countered they would have got the deal done on the spot.
@user-cc3ym3qc4x 7 ай бұрын
The offer was an insult and that’s why there was no counter offer. I do the same thing when I get low balled
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 7 ай бұрын
No... it was not an insult. It was an offer. If you get offended by an offer, you shouldn't try to sell things.
@NamekCards 10 ай бұрын
When you offered 2k I almost choked on my coffee LMAO. Good Lord that wasn't a low ball that was a straight fk your mother insult. You a savage for that my man 😂😂😭
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
It’s negotiating. What if the autos come back fake?! Then what? Go back to Ricky and ask for money back?
@NamekCards 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD Stop getting defensive my guy we both know 2k was a nasty offer, nothing more to it. We all good, it was an entertaining video nonetheless.
@johnmabie5266 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARDhe should have called Rick up to let him know whether the autos were real!!
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
If you finished the episode, Ricky got paid for his collection for a super fair price. You guys are missing the fact that Mike brought him a buyer so he could go on the trip with his son. Sellers have to make the decision. We are NEVER out to rip anyone off. We’ve even overpaid when a seller gave us a low offer and we felt they needed more, and sent more money to a seller when we get more than we estimate in our resell. Our goal is never to break even. We always need to make money.
@NamekCards 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD Wow that was a lot lol, I never questioned anything you guys do. I just stated it was the mother of all low balls, is not that deep. Guys sometimes it's ok to take an L laugh about it and move on. Offer was trash period 😂 on to the next nobody is perfect, seems like yal want everyone to agree with yal 100% of the time, you know what day that would be my friends.. Neverday!! it's all good, next episode pls I'll be around my bros.
@Crypto_Chrome_Dragon 5 ай бұрын
Was that gentlemen a former Marine ? Semper Fi GTMO
@thepullsportscards 10 ай бұрын
First!🎉
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 10 ай бұрын
Yes you are!
@polkcountyboxbreaks 10 ай бұрын
Hold on a minute. You showed Ricky the Doby card saying you just bought it, then went to PlayBall to clear your head and purchase the same Doby card. Something is odd here 😂
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Watch again.
@polkcountyboxbreaks 9 ай бұрын
@@CHASINGCARDBOARD I imagine you worked some editing magic! I enjoy the videos, but I am not watching again. 😂
@CHASINGCARDBOARD 9 ай бұрын
Shhhhh
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