We Are NY Phil @ Home: Joseph Alessi on the Tenor Horn Solo from Mahler’s Symphony No. 7

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We Are NY Phil @ Home: Joseph Alessi on the Tenor Horn Solo from Mahler’s Symphony No. 7

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Mahler, who grew up near a military barrack, would have been quite familiar with the sounds of many different brass instruments. The opening solo of his Symphony No. 7 is the only music Mahler ever scored for the tenor horn, which can refer to different instruments in different parts of the world. Principal Trombone Joseph Alessi first performed the solo on tenor tuba in 1986 under Leonard Bernstein. In this performance from 2017 under then Music Director Alan Gilbert, Alessi performs the same solo on the English Baritone, which he believes provides a closer version of the sound Mahler was looking for. #mahlerny #nyphilplayson
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@JohnMacMillan100 4 жыл бұрын

My instrument! I've played it for almost 40 years in the Brass Band here in Scotland.

@ggarzagarcia 4 жыл бұрын

Maestro Alessi, good to see you on video. I doubt you remember me, but from 2014-2016, I was first a student of Graeme Mutchler at BYU, and then studied with Steve Norrell at MSM. Bass trombone, Latino. About your height. Glasses. In any case, glad you and your family are well during the isolation. Many best wishes as you help the NYPO and the trombone world.

@erpollock 4 жыл бұрын

Very impressive. He is a scholar of the various types of horns, and he is one of the virtuoso musicians of the NY Philharmonic. The only advantage of this lockdown is the ability to meet the musicians individually and recognize their important contributions to the whole.

@tkmmusician 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Joe. So great to hear you still kicking butt! All the best, Tom Macfarlane

@SongsForSorrows 4 жыл бұрын

Is it just me, or have I ever not see Joe Alessi play with valves? Edit: -buttons- *valves

@cohpefps 6 ай бұрын

Valves*

@cohpefps 6 ай бұрын

True tho

@joshuakoppeis6146 Ай бұрын

Just you. Make sure you catch him on bass trumpet…. He sounds like if Thor was an instrument 😂😂

@Mahgar 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful!

@hudsoncampos5976 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful

@danbrown4090 4 жыл бұрын

Grazie Maestro!

@johnmears9056 4 жыл бұрын

I do like this slightly lighter tone than we often hear for this.

@joshuakoppeis6146 Ай бұрын

Great video Joe! Trumpets are on rotary, I'm wondering did the trombones also play on the german instruments for this performance?? Sounds incredible!!

@alannunez 4 жыл бұрын

Wonderful, maestro! Love all the videos the Phil puts out and esp. this one.

@Lurcanio1 4 жыл бұрын

It is not very difficult to figure out what Mahler had in mind with "Tenorhorn in B". In Bohemia and Austria this is an oval shaped horn in Bb (looking similar to a Wagner tuba, but the valves are played with the right hand), usually quite small in bore, so they have a rather bright and projecting sound. These instruments are played to the day a lot in traditional folk music in central Europe, along with the similar looking, but slightly larger Bariton horn (also in Bb, but larger in bore, closer to a tenor tuba). It is very unlikely Mahler was familiar the instruments used in British brass bands. But the baritone Mr. Alessi plays should be a quite good choice and certainly closer to a "Tenorhorn in B" than a Euphonium, which is usually used for Mahler 7.

@slvdrdali 4 жыл бұрын

In Europe especially in Germany :)

@ThePobb111 4 жыл бұрын

Despite musicologists and orchestral musicians thinking, arguing, and disagreeing about this issue for many decades now, your KZfaq comment section knowledge has settled the issue. Forget the knowledge players, musicologists and historians have, the issue has been answered, and we thank you for your contributions to the world of music. You should publish this definitive answer to the question of how this gets played in music journals and change the world's outlook on this piece.

@harneferoliveira9083 4 жыл бұрын

Great Joe

@tylerlindstrom5054 4 жыл бұрын

Mad Lad

@stefanufer608 4 жыл бұрын

Some interesting thoughts about why Mahler chose this instrument

@adrians.444 4 жыл бұрын

Great explanation and performance. Who is the trumpet player to your right? He also sounds excellent

@petermuller846 4 жыл бұрын

He is Martin Angerer. Principal trumpet player of the Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra, Munich in Germany.

@joshuathedank9661 3 жыл бұрын

Beethoven: moonlight sounds like it’s pretty sad Mahler:t h e r e i s o n l y d a r k n e s s

@trumpBone2 4 жыл бұрын

What instrument did you exactly use in the times with Bernstein ? Was it a tenor tuba or this kind of "Tenorhorn" which are used in Germany and Austria in the traditional "bohemian" wind ensembles ? I think you know what I mean... They have rotary valves and look like this : wpmanager.buffet-group.com/melton/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2016/05/mwmat24_full-1.png . Is "tenor tuba" for you the same as the euphonium ? I played this kind of english baritone horn two years in our brass band before I switched to Eb tuba or the last year 2nd or bass trombone . The number of "english style" brass bands are growing in Germany :-)

@kevinnaranek6649 4 жыл бұрын

Yes. Wouldn't a tenor horn would be between an alto horn and a euphonium

@TheJH1015 4 жыл бұрын

@@kevinnaranek6649 well, that... depends. In Great Britain, 'tenor horn' is the name for what Americans call 'alto horn': the instrument in E-flat that's a bit smaller than the British baritone horn. However, in Germany, 'tenorhorn' is a completely different instrument that's more close to the baritone, since the baritone actually plays in the tenor register.

@Markworth 4 жыл бұрын

Is there some reason that the Bb Tenorhorn (Baßflügelhorn) has somehow become a completely forgotten instrument in the span of less than 40 years? I'm pretty sure that there's several companies still making them, for crying out loud.

@elliotharrington5632 4 жыл бұрын

It's called a baritone

@Markworth 4 жыл бұрын

@@elliotharrington5632 For the millionth time, I am talking about the Bb Tenorhorn. An ovalform horn. You know. Looks a bit like a Bb Wagner Tuba. Has a bell about 9" or so wide. In terms of size it is between the rotary Baritone and the British Baritone Horn. Sounds nothing like the BBB Horn and is acoustically incompatible with it. Soviet military bands were using them not even 40 years ago. V.F. Cerveny and other European companies still make them. This should not be an instrument that people consider unheard of.

@composingatnight 4 жыл бұрын

Preach Markworth! I know exactly what you are talking about. I have one, a German Tenor Horn from Wessex.

@Ndr565h 4 жыл бұрын

@@Markworth It´s actually still used in almost all German Wind/Military Bands. Also in Czech, Austria and Hungary they are still very popular and there are also some manufacturers around who build them (e.g. Kühnl und Hoyer, B&S, Melton, MIraphone).

@kevinnaranek6649 4 жыл бұрын

@@elliotharrington5632 It depends on which side of "The Pond" you live on.

@T-Slider 4 жыл бұрын

Joe, I just bought one of those horns, but I’m struggling to find the right mouthpiece as a trombone player. What mouthpiece are you using in this video? Thanks

@Tongaudio Жыл бұрын

The instrument looks more like a British baritone horn with a compensating system to me (probably a Yamaha Neo or a Besson one), the British tenor horn is in Es, a trombone player would have extremely difficulties playing that. The Austrian/German Bb round shaped Tenor horn is similar to the British Baritone, and the Austrian/German Bb round shaped Baritone is more like a British Euphonium.

@UrsulaBagdasarjanz 4 жыл бұрын

Congratulations--Ursula

@T-Slider 4 жыл бұрын

Joe, What model mouthpiece, and make & model horn are you playing please? I bought an English brass band tenor horn because I have Essential tremors, and holding the trombone for a sustained pitch is now all but impossible for me. But the mouthpiece that came with it is quite small. I’m just trying to have a little fun at 75 before THE Finale! Thanks Joe Reilly, Petri Dish City Florida.

@mouse3355 4 жыл бұрын

It somewhat looks like Yamaha's Neo series tenor horn, or 'alto horn' for the Japanese brass makers.

@mr.starfish4965 3 жыл бұрын

He’s playing a Baritone Horn (or British/English Baritone). It is different from the British Tenor Horn.

@mouse3355 3 жыл бұрын

@@mr.starfish4965 Oh, yeah you're right! A Baritone Horn with more longer tubing. Were they equipped with Tenor Trombone MPC? With short shanked variation?

@TheJH1015 3 жыл бұрын

@@mouse3355 British baritone horns use a small shank tenor trombone mouthpiece, typically ones such as a Yamaha 48 or a Denis Wick 6BS. You can also use larger sizes like a Denis Wick 5BS or 4BS, as long as it's a small shank.

@mouse3355 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheJH1015 Much obliged!

@TopRacer-tx5cd 4 жыл бұрын

Me a Euphonium player:... Him: Tenor Tuba. Me: YuO mEaAn A eUpHoNiUm? 😂😂😂

@kenzieford3612 4 жыл бұрын

TopRacer 15317 I would guess that he meant Eb bass. It’s commonly used in brass bands.

@mr.starfish4965 4 жыл бұрын

I think a tenor tuba is a euphonium. When most people say tenor tuba, it is typically referring to a rotary valve euphonium.

@mr.starfish4965 4 жыл бұрын

Kenzie Ford | I think the Eb bass is a bass tuba.

@bikkerg 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting information. Hopefully you are sound an safe. For me it looks like you have some short of breath while you are talking. I pray that this is a misinterpretation.

@uweroth8292 4 жыл бұрын

Why don't you play that on a german oval tenorhorn?

@brasschick4214 4 жыл бұрын

Uwe Roth The bore is different and gives a different sound. The English Baritone has a cylindrical bore and so sounds brighter.

@mr.starfish4965 3 жыл бұрын

brasschick42 | Mahler was more familiar with the Czech and German style instruments, so why not use the German Tenor Horn?

@noahhinton2657 4 жыл бұрын

What can't the man do

@celiabyrne5759 4 жыл бұрын

Bach bwv12

@howaboutataste 4 жыл бұрын

Skip to 2:58

@elliotharrington5632 4 жыл бұрын

That's a baritone horn

@hotdrumman 4 жыл бұрын

Yrp, I thought a trombonist playing a Eflat tenor horn wouldn't work... The mouthpiece is much more smaller.. So a baritone is more comparable

@mr.starfish4965 4 жыл бұрын

The original solo is played by a B-flat tenor horn, which is similar in shape to a Kaiser Baritone. That’s what he is referring to when he says “Tenor Horn”