Jenna Barrowes (Garns) and Aden Andrus, Spanish Fork High School 2005 "We Both Reached for the Gun" (Chicago)
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@1fairygodmother3 жыл бұрын
If you want to see her now, here she is with 4 of her 5 children! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/atN6iKeVvNu3n2g.html
@twistysnacks3 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Utahan, I just have to say that I would have guessed she and those kids were from here. There's a weird number of super blonde, cute kids from large families around here. I married a non-mormon guy here and we had one of those super blonde kids, even though nobody in either family looks like that. It's something in the water.
@pjb82953 жыл бұрын
Wait, who are you and what's your relationship with these performers?
@1fairygodmother3 жыл бұрын
@@pjb8295 I am Jenna's mom. :)
@Mercutiossword3 жыл бұрын
@@1fairygodmother beatiful and a wonderful performer. Hope she is still at it
@jonas33333 жыл бұрын
I have to say, I started watching this, expecting an above-average H.S. production and really, they performed this with top-notch, professional talent. When one considers that the Chicago version this was modeled after was the FILM, which gets plenty of practicing, effects, takes and edits, this truly IS an excellent, incredible performance! Ms. Barrowes went the extra mile to BE the puppet in this piece. I don't know how she kept her dinner down! :) And Mr. Andrus' voice was an outstanding baritone throughout that coupled with the right amount of exuded confidence required for the part. The ONLY negative in all of this was an auditorium/sound system that didn't deserve that level of talent.
@s.g.75723 жыл бұрын
The girl that plays Roxy has got INSANE physical acting chops, like honestly top drawer
@lolkayleen27573 жыл бұрын
Exactly??? And only in highschool!!
@kylaw25933 жыл бұрын
Agreed 0.0
@cadencel15823 жыл бұрын
On the level of most professional performances
@nay97053 жыл бұрын
She’s fantastic, so is he though
@mrsnatural23683 жыл бұрын
Both her and him do this number better than some professional productions!
@maisie97053 жыл бұрын
This actually IS phenomenal. His vocals, her acting, and you can tell they really trust each other - wouldn’t have worked so well if they were less comfortable with each other.
@gabriellaf93 жыл бұрын
Right? They have excellent chemistry
@TahtahmesDiary2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, they are able to work together much better than most high schoolers.
@DeterminismisFreedom Жыл бұрын
How much they payed you for this comment?
@kmwiggles7711 ай бұрын
They're not really singing. It's clearly the soundtrack from the movie
@katbozues11 ай бұрын
@@kmwiggles77GTFO...First of all they ARE clearly singing it... second of all, why would they lip sync to a movie album...third, those are CLEARLY not Richard Gere or Renee Zelwegger's voices.
@hayleyparr65654 жыл бұрын
The strings, the dancing, HIS VOICE its so amazing how can this be highschool
@aprilmartini3 жыл бұрын
I’d say it’s either a dedicated performing arts school, or a very large school with a large bank of performing arts students to choose from. We had 30 kids audition for our last musical, and they all got in, because we needed bodies on stage.
@TahtahmesDiary2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it’s the first time I’ve thought a high school boy was really nailing the vocals and I watch a decent amount of highschool versions of musicals on here. But recording quality could have impacted some of them tbh
@rachelf54668 ай бұрын
@@aprilmartini I'm familiar with this high school, and while it's not a performing arts high school, the area has many very talented people who love to sing and dance. Much of that part of Utah has some really incredible amateur productions because they're drawing from such a large talent pool.
@elphbwckd2125 ай бұрын
I mean they just copied the movie in every way. Not that hard to do.
@hayleyquinnx943 ай бұрын
@@rachelf5466 Honestly my school had the best performance Sweeney Todd I've ever seen to this day, two layered stage with the trapdoor chair, upstairs barber, downstairs resteraunt and then basement set, it was insane and all built by one woman, the lighting and costumes were all also done by the same woman who wasnt even a teacher just worked purely as the stagehand and lighting desk and music woman it was deranged how good it was for a public school, the music was all played by a live student orchestra and all the actors were amazing singers too, it was legitimately just amazing
@notyourdaughter6665 жыл бұрын
For a highschool this is AMAZING
@ATM1804 жыл бұрын
Wait they're in high school? They're great!
@NateWithWho3 жыл бұрын
High school???
@Lee_Lu-Leong3 жыл бұрын
highschool..? wow.....
@alexpollard82203 жыл бұрын
Really? 🤣🤣🤣
@curtisrobinson79622 жыл бұрын
More like community theater.
@shaybrown73553 жыл бұрын
Roxy stole the show with this scene. She literally looks like a porcelain doll and I had such a hard time believing she wasn’t until she said “are you kiddin’”
@smolson84713 жыл бұрын
The people saying this is amazing for high school are only partially correct. This is amazing for any age and it becomes phenomenal and unbelievable for high school. This performance is about on par with the one in the film and they were able to do retakes for the film version.
@derikshopinski56513 жыл бұрын
Except that the part of Mary Sunshine is written as a man in drag in the Broadway production. Hollywood made her female. This is a copy of the film (including the dialogue before the song). PS: the royalties actually prohibit changes to the libretto, lyrics, regardless of any films made that change them.
@jonathanmcvay57793 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but you don’t know professionalism. The performers were good but the direction was extremely subpar.
@nativenewyorker31442 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmcvay5779 compared to most high school productions, this was a masterpiece
@jonathanmcvay57792 жыл бұрын
@@nativenewyorker3144 you’re entitled to your opinion. I have a big problem with the direction.
@lukasblur3500 Жыл бұрын
@jonathanmcvay5779 and the direction you're going is shitting on the performance of amateur high school kids.
@rociorivera46574 жыл бұрын
2005 which means now in 2020 these folks should be around 30 years of age. Any update? The guy playing Billy Flynn I sure hope went on to do some acting! His voice is phenomenal here!
@NefariousDreary4 жыл бұрын
Yup!
@luisacruz63443 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm crazy but I really think that the actor Aden is this guy: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKpzosyL2s6ZmJ8.html
@TheDel48733 жыл бұрын
@@alyssachantaychampagne2773 actually the guy who played Billy Flynn went to the college that one of my friends is going to (Brigham Young University).
@pungetello3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDel4873 i think theyre saying Spanish fork is his high school, not college. Edit: yup, the guy in the facebook link went to byu, so its probably the same
@AtlanticGiantPumpkin3 жыл бұрын
@@TheDel4873 I saw that the girl who plays Roxy now has 5 kids and runs a Christian private school? Might be wrong on that. Is this in Utah? Cause those two things feel VERY Mormon, but I also wouldn’t expect a primarily Mormon school in the early 2000’s to perform Chicago.
@UnderdogTactics4 жыл бұрын
Aden's great (he can really sing), but on second watch Jenna steals the scene. Compare her performance to others on KZfaq and she just blows them away. She fully commits to the scene and makes really interesting choices. When he puts the smile on her, it's as good as the one in the movie. Maybe even better.
@rooftopkitty84624 жыл бұрын
What are their full names? I’d like to know how they're doing now 😂
@_veronica_r4 жыл бұрын
They do everything pretty much exactly the same as in the movie except the milk drinking part at the end. XD
@alyssachantaychampagne27733 жыл бұрын
@@rooftopkitty8462 It's in the description Some people think that Aden is the same as this Aden: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sKpzosyL2s6ZmJ8.html
@CommunalPissRug3 жыл бұрын
The guy was an amazing singer and the girl playing Roxie did such a good job portraying a doll, I actually clicked on the video because of the fact I thought she was a porcelain doll in thumbnail
@noahkarpinski18244 жыл бұрын
That note at the end. This guy had better have gone pro.
@comfyspecs90583 ай бұрын
googled him and he went into finance :( i do hope that he and his family are doing well tho.... maybe he stills does theater on the side??
@natdashg3 жыл бұрын
when i first saw the video title i was like “psh okay sure” but now i’m clapping in my own home because this really is the best performance of this song i’ve ever seen (especially for high school??!?)
@graymoreghost10 ай бұрын
You need to get out more
@hyunjinskookiejar20414 жыл бұрын
This man sounds like Richard Gere in the movie and that goes beyond me. He’s awesome😱 Ps. the title of this video for once wasn’t clickbait, I assure you
@lukeskywalker9060 Жыл бұрын
THIS IS WHAT I WAS SAYINGGGGG
@WitchKing-Of-Angmar4 ай бұрын
@@lukeskywalker9060 sort of, except for the caricature of the voice too much.
@justcallmeteacup47113 жыл бұрын
That ventriloquism scene is unreal
@nayungkan3 жыл бұрын
티파니부터 여기까지 온사람은 나밖에 없지....
@user-vr9tu1kr5z3 жыл бұрын
나도 있어용ㅋㅋㅋ
@evy103jgu3 жыл бұрын
yogiyo
@jamesglobal72362 ай бұрын
이걸 보니까 드디어 긴 여행 마침표를 찍을 수 있을거 같네요!
@user-yv7oh4be3qАй бұрын
저욥..
@gelato0320Ай бұрын
저두요😊
@NairAthul3 жыл бұрын
Someone send this to Disney and get this cast to reunite for their Disney+ show.
@lolkayleen27573 жыл бұрын
YESSSYESYES ABSOLUTELY
@picklespeas96233 жыл бұрын
OMG YES!!
@thesparks003 жыл бұрын
BRUH! THATD BE AWESOME
@Callumlore2 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD YES
@littleghostie3 жыл бұрын
His vocals are amazing, the pipes that he has are astounding. The fact he can hold a note for that long and stay on pitch is amazing
@msanrai3 жыл бұрын
If you told me these 2 ended up on Broadway id believe it
@UrbanCastle4 жыл бұрын
No way! A high school production? This great??! Standing ovation. So awesome.
@user-xc4wl3ro5jАй бұрын
진짜 웃긴건 빌리플린의 복화술이 여기서 중점이 아닌데 현재 2024 한국 시카고 공연에서는 이 넘버 최재림 복화술 얘기밖에 없음 ㅋㅋㅋ 진짜 뒤로 쓰러질 거같음
@ptaloveАй бұрын
그가 하라는대로 말하라는 상징적 표현이긴 하죠.
@Lalaland0028 күн бұрын
@@ptalove 단순히 표정뿐 아니라 여배우 남배우가 같은 동작들을 반복해서 반전시켜 액팅하는 모습을 보니까 시나리오에서 말하고자 하는 내용이 너무 잘 이해가 됨 이거 보기 전까진 그냥 안무같은건 줄 알았음 복화술같은 능력을 터득하는것도 훌륭하긴 한데 뮤지컬은 먼자리 관객들도 보는 거라서 저런 큰 움직임으로 내용을 설득하는게 효율적일 듯
@user-bo5lr1fh1g19 күн бұрын
ㄹㅇ….
@steeevealbright4 жыл бұрын
Surprised they could finish the show after that. I would never stop clapping
@TheMakeupChair4 жыл бұрын
This is insanely good! 😍
@DeterminismisFreedom Жыл бұрын
Said no one ever
@marialuciaz801810 ай бұрын
We made our own in Poços de Caldas, "The Volcanic City" in Brazil: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gNemepN3npu8qmw.html
@franksherbondy95184 жыл бұрын
For a high school show choir this is truly amazing!! The guy playing Billy Flynn is great what a voice. The girl playing Roxie Hart is flawless the moves are spectacular!!!
@ProcInc3 жыл бұрын
Unironically this is definitely one of the best performances of 'Gun' on KZfaq. The choreography is mostly taken from the 2002 movie as opposed to the usual stage choreography but it reintroduces some of the best stage elements (particularly the long notes at the end which wouldn't have fit in the movie since why would that be impressive when it isn't live?), we also get to see Roxy's full Charleston performed flawlessly at the end (which the movie literally shows for 0.4 seconds) The rag doll ventriloquist dummy from the movie is so much more comedic and captivating than the stage version of frozen comedic expressions (and makes more sense) and both Roxy's physicality, make-up (props to them) and acting all enhance it And yes, Flynn holds a note here better than some other professional performances I've seen on YT. I'm only sorry they couldn't also do the stage version's dance together at the end as well (the shuffle at the last refrain at the end before the long note)
@ZacFilmFan5 жыл бұрын
These performances are absolutely astonishing for a high school!!!! Great job!!!!
@Sarah-ei4sw3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could see all that jazz and cell block tango from this group
@arianagrandeismyqueen61662 жыл бұрын
Oh same
@lukeskywalker9060 Жыл бұрын
RAZZLE DAZZLE
@breadcrumbhoarder10 ай бұрын
His voice+her acting is truly a match made in heaven! His ventriloquism is the only thing that could be improved upon but honestly it’s not even a big deal because her acting is so captivating that you don’t end up looking at his mouth haha
@seabids3 жыл бұрын
This was an actual high school?!?!? OMG, glee watches this and cries at night
@b.d66423 жыл бұрын
I love how they actually did the puppet thing for the reporters from the movie
@baalgodofrain3 жыл бұрын
That “Theeee~” is powerful, did he do circular breathing or something?
@YoshliFan3 жыл бұрын
As it requires a closed area to hold the air in that doesn't work. It's just sheer lung volume and training probably~
@roisinnigcrainn77223 жыл бұрын
It's less breathing in general tbh. The idea of good breath control is breathing in minimally and exhaling said breath as slowly, powerfully and controlled as possible. Diaphragmatic support is key!
@ran5247510 ай бұрын
Shout out to the videographer on this too, I don’t think I’ve ever seen such an adept filming of an amateur performance, zooming in on key facial expressions and showing choreography without cutting pieces off
@MissICandii20114 жыл бұрын
Okay but that male vocalist is AMAZING!
@seirrasky35814 жыл бұрын
This was better than most college productions!
@leocopland27533 жыл бұрын
Wow her acting is on point she’s like an doll
@eora51423 жыл бұрын
This is too good for a school play-THIS IS TOO GOOD FOR A SCHOOL PLAY! They've been squipped, right?! This is masterfully executed, singing, dancing, coreography... Everything 💖
@user-dj1os5sv8p28 күн бұрын
너무 멋져서 즐겨찾기 해놓고 자주 보러 오려구요. 퍼포먼스도 너무너무 훌륭하고, 젊음의 설레임, 풋풋함이 느껴져서 더욱 좋아요! 너무 아름다운 무대에요~~~!!!
@user-dj1os5sv8pАй бұрын
와우.. 분명 어떤 면에서는 프로의 무대를 뛰어넘었다!!!!!!!
@nonexistentunicorn11225 жыл бұрын
This is truly amazing, more people need to see this!
@adambennett96883 жыл бұрын
When I did this in an actual professional production we didn't have nearly half the talent these two had. I feel like I did a good job but if you asked me to hold that note at the end I'd have laughed in your face. Plus the actress I was working with was really stubborn, and refused to take criticism and sometimes walked out of rehearsals or didn't even show up. On the night she barely knew what she was doing and showed. I'm never working with her again thank god. Sorry for the rant, just jealous that a high school production did a better a job than we did when we probably had triple the budget 😹😹😹. Hats off to them
@KP-ej7gc3 жыл бұрын
Love at the end when Roxie does the Charleston and then the back bend into his arms. Great ending!
@mysteryminx26192 жыл бұрын
HOLY HELL! This is a HIGH SCHOOL?! That is a killer Billy Flynn! ALL of them are fantastic!
@deltaweathers2 жыл бұрын
For once this is not clickbait, it really IS amazing. This, and the the Stratford Playhouse, are some of my fav highschool productions for Chicago
@1itslaurahere14 жыл бұрын
this is mindblowingly good, congrats to everyone on this cast
@jauipop3 жыл бұрын
I don't know how KZfaq ended up sending me here, but this was amazing!!
@travisgrant56083 жыл бұрын
OMG! IS THIS REALLY A HIGH SCHOOL PRODUCTION? THIS WAS REALLY OUTSTANDING! I SAW THE BROADWAY SHOW 3 TIMES BEFORE THE MOVIE AND THIS WOULD MAKE THE BROADWAY CAST PROUD! (especially the girl playing Roxy & the guy playing her lawyer in this scene) BRAVO! 👍👍👍👍👍💞
@that_goth_bitch3899 Жыл бұрын
Omg this is absolutely fantastic! His voice is killer, the physical acting of the one who plays Roxie, the dancing... Just everything is so amazing! Great job to the whole crew!
@ellabiddy47413 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the main background puppet lady’s vocals?? Damn!!
@cormorantcolors6791 Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite song from Chicago, and actually seeing it performed is especially a delight. You get to see how many people are unnervingly good at pretending to be a puppet. This girl especially is one of the best, there were times I forgot she was genuinely moving her own limbs. Billy Flynn here is also incredible. He put so much character into the role that even some of the official recordings don’t have. Amazing!!
@CyraEmm3 жыл бұрын
This is SPECTACULAR. This is professional level shit.
@bronxboy4711 ай бұрын
It is really hard to believe this is a high school performance. Kudos to everyone involved! I can't stop watching it.
@cerealkiillar3 жыл бұрын
Where are these artists today? ABSOLUTELY STUNNING PERFORMANCES!
@celesbianmegastar3 жыл бұрын
Seems like they’re both living pretty normal middle-class lives now. Roxie’s actress is a SAHM and a volunteer teacher and the guy is now a family man with an office job! According to a comment left by the op!
@user-mo6nk6iu7gАй бұрын
개충격 ... 여자 진짜 마리오네트 같다 우리나라 배우들보다 이쪽 고딩들이 훨 뛰어나네......
@johannbach33423 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing chicago done as a production in my school and thinking this song was unsettling. This is... even more so. It's a compliment don't get me wrong
@0PaperMoshe3 жыл бұрын
....high school? HIGH SCHOOL?????? Excuse me what? Im in awe of these talented kids
@SugarCub3 жыл бұрын
Is it wrong of me to say that I love this even more than the Broadway versions? 😭
@Casey56934 ай бұрын
What they lack in budget they more than make up for in talent. The singing, the dancing, and the acting were phenomenal, especially Roxie and the lawyer. The lawyer's pipes were great.
@digitalbramane5255 жыл бұрын
PHENOMENAL !!!
@Musashi-ry3tg5 жыл бұрын
Wow my word, Jenna, you are something :) So gifted ❤️💕🙏‼️
@yourvirtualidollei96097 ай бұрын
im so shocked highschoolers performed this, this is absolutely phenomenal
@margarethowe89195 жыл бұрын
Watching this in 2019 and I think this is superb and hilarious!!
@imtryingmybest6733 жыл бұрын
It almost sounds like it’s dubbed its so good
@celesbianmegastar3 жыл бұрын
I saw this show at UMichigan, which is widely regarded to have one of the best theatre departments in the country. And maybe memory serves me incorrectly, but I swear to God this high school performance is even more impressive!!
@d43imoet11 ай бұрын
I actually saw it at UMich too! I think between the year of 2003-2005. And I say your memory serves your correctly 🙃 I too think these high schoolers did an even better performance than the theater department at the time. 😬
@biddleeewho41812 жыл бұрын
He held that note for 15 whole goddamn seconds. For once I actually agree with the title!!!
@Cowboy1959 Жыл бұрын
This is a marvelous performance with some wonderful little touches, but my favorite is the closing flourish when Roxy sweeps back into his arms. Very well done!
@honeydance21533 жыл бұрын
I wonder if their performance happens in the present day, they must be viral !!! Gosh!! Can't believe they are high school students!! So talent!! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@cringetrashcan88284 жыл бұрын
The girl looks like a doll it's kinda creepy
@melvram4 жыл бұрын
cringe Trashcan that’s the point
@alexatm22464 жыл бұрын
that’s the idea, yeah
@cringetrashcan88284 жыл бұрын
Yeah I knoww...but the thing is she did it very well, not everyone can look and act like a puppet convincingly in that scene if that makes sense. I'm not a native English speaker I'm sorry.
@noahkarpinski18244 жыл бұрын
@@cringetrashcan8828 Yeah it's pretty offputting.
@xecylipse_daysx81284 жыл бұрын
She did so good!!!!!! It must be so hard to act like a puppet and just let the other person move you around
@victoria7t3 жыл бұрын
Coming from somebody that's been in various acting troupes for 25 years, well past school and college, this is amazing! And the girl that plays Roxy... You have a long and amazing acting career ahead of you! Keep it up!
@tabi93944 жыл бұрын
holy shit that dude's a star
@A1ixsocool3 жыл бұрын
He actually sounds like Billy Flynn from the movie, wow.
@superficial.mp43 жыл бұрын
i am literally in love with this performance
@superficial.mp42 жыл бұрын
i am still in love with this performance
@markcraven83863 жыл бұрын
Holy cow ! What did I just see ? That was F'n fantastic ! He has got some serious breath control to go with that singing voice. Really well done.
@siegfriedenea3 жыл бұрын
This guy is a musical performer!
@josephst.george78419 ай бұрын
I’ve seen great performances from high schools before, but they’re rare. And even more rare to be considered to be one of the best performances of the song. But yet, here I am
@whatcanidooo3 жыл бұрын
This kind of thing is why I love theatre 😮I miss doing it in highschool, I only got 2 1/2 years of it because of covid 😭
@PlatonicPurplePanda3 жыл бұрын
And the Tony award goes to this performance from these high school kids.
@TMCSFCA3 жыл бұрын
Wow! Outstanding talent at that high school!
@chrishan08223 жыл бұрын
고등학생들인데 실력 이렇게 좋아도 되는거임?? 진짜 인형인줄 ...
@Natalia_Bagranovskaya5 ай бұрын
I can't believe it's a high school play. Amazing!
@AK-jt7kh Жыл бұрын
This is a HIGH SCHOOL?! There's no way! Holy cow! I thought they looked a little young but the talent made me assume they were acting majors in college. Good lord that's a lot of talent!
@aimeemarie54623 жыл бұрын
This was absolutely AMAZING for a high school
@user-zr7zv6sx2y5 ай бұрын
BRAVO! WELL DONE.!!! .ROXIE..WOW, BUT DUDE..THAT LAST NOTE!!!! FANTASTIC!
@SnapGrapplePop8 ай бұрын
This came up as an option when listening to other versions of this song and I figured it’d be a ‘cute, little version’. I was actually blown away. It was great.
@dignature1233 жыл бұрын
Idk why this was recommended to me but THIS WAS DAMN GOOD!
@viktorblondeen4925 Жыл бұрын
Bravo! This was an awesome performance! The only thing that could've made it better was a budget for costumes, stage props and lighting, but the act was EVERYTHING!
@cavatica113 жыл бұрын
2021 and this is still incredible.
@noodle58163 жыл бұрын
Of course it’s 2005, no high school I’ve seen now is capable of the performance and wonderful passionate energy this group exudes
@reginaphalange74133 жыл бұрын
Why do you say that? Just curious
@trinifernandez88703 жыл бұрын
It's because we are all depressed now, noodle
@PigWIthGlasses3 жыл бұрын
@@trinifernandez8870 Accurate
@kimberly66633 жыл бұрын
How many high schools theater productions are you crashing to give such a definitive assessment? 🤔 Seems kind of suspicious, maybe schools should take campus security more seriously.
@noodle58163 жыл бұрын
@@kimberly6663 Um or ya know you could’ve considered that I might be fresh out of high school... and was heavily involved in local/regional theatre and UIL competitions?
@ryleegraves33225 жыл бұрын
one of my favorite performances!!!
@billyb78523 жыл бұрын
Wow that was actually phenomenal
@SpencerMusicSchool3 жыл бұрын
Having played Billy many times and directed High School Productions of Chicago. This was an adorable version. Great job!
@elsieegrace3 жыл бұрын
id kill to see this entire performance
@camimlez4 жыл бұрын
AMAZING!!! CONGRATS EVERYONE!!
@YoSoyPabloD3 жыл бұрын
This is the best performance i ever saw!!!! I die laughin every time i see this video!!! Is Excellent!!! His voice, her acting and the dancers Ohh my god!!!! You´re the best guys!!! Greetings from Argentina!!!
@dionezerva17414 жыл бұрын
They're phenomenal
@fernandod40463 жыл бұрын
Can't believe these were high school performers
@ProfessorSassypants3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant production value and the level of performance was outstanding!
@C-Fly10 ай бұрын
Just here to say that I truly TRULY adore this performance. It is so amazing to see a Highschool production shine so bright! I love this! I applaud everyone involved.
@pamh16483 жыл бұрын
Amazing, yes I agree this is the best performance ever.