Yea and many of those tricked ppl leaves 5* reviews what makes it so hard to find really good products

@@saeer5038 Customer reviews are normally useless anyway. If someone that has no experience with a type of product will give a crappy consumer level product 5 stars and give 1 star to a high quality professional piece of equipment. Customer reviews are typically just personal opinion with no bearing on the manufacturers intended use or quality of a product.

@@theorncampbell4432And also many customer reviews don't even rate the product itself but the delivery delay and the damage the package received during transport.. I have seen so many times a 1 or 2 stars review with the comment saying the product was excellent and perfectly matched the needs of the customer but they had to wait 2 extra days to receive it, or the delivery guy left it in the porch. And sometimes the review is about a completely different product. It seems like a lot of people actually use the comments on Amazon to simply rant about the bad day they just had.

Holy cringe.

I recently bought some cheap ass gaming chair and i should of got any office chair for same price but this will do until i buy that aeron

Scorn is truly the secret sauce.

If you found the Gesture's backrest too aggressive, you could have a look at the Leap v2 or Amia. If you are able to take advantage of free returns (including shipping fees), then you should try every Herman Miller/Steelcase chair that you desire.

Correct ✅ Lol -GK

same here 😅

Same, sitting in my Leap V2 but still watch these lol.

How did the aeron work for you??? Can you do long hours on it? My I start feeling the frame after a few hours of use. 😢

That would be pretty rich coming from a company like Forbes tbh.

Haha... -Greg

It's definitely not as bad as the rest of these lists. Their top picks are the Gesture, the Aeron and the Sayl - pretty sane choices. HON Ignition for "budget" is on the BTOD under $500 list too.

BTOD is in the business of office chairs, not cable tv alternatives...

Same here lol, even after I got the Aeron, I've still continued to watch these types of videos. 😅

Me too. I don't know why they're so pleasant to watch, but they are.

This is clearly a paid advertisement. Not a review....

Check their other videos....

Somebody loves paid advertisements a little too much.

It is, more comfortable and in the long run it will help your body to be supported thr right way so you in maybe 10-15 years dont develope neck/back-pains. A chair like the Amia looks like a solid pick. I went for the embody myself after using Håg RH05 and Kinnarps 6000 and embody is so much better. (Expect the chair I received has a real bad squeeking noise that im mid RMA with)

You can go for refurbished for a little less than 1000 or used chair on local bulk sale for a aeron for like 300 400 though you won't have a warranty

The main thing to look out for when buying an ergonomic office chair is the warranty. If the warranty makes up for the price of the chair, then it's definitely worth it. Say if u were to buy a $100 chair that has a 1-year warranty (even I think a 1-year warranty is pretty generous for a $100 chair), compared to a $1000+ chair that has a 12-year warranty, you're gonna be buying the same chair again and again over the lifetime of a single good office chair that will last u over 12 years. Plus, it's also better for the environment (less waste). Also, high-end office chairs from reputable brands (HM, Steelcase, Hayworth, etc.) will pretty easily last way longer than the amazing 12-year warranty that they have. I've seen chairs from HM and Steelcase lasting upwards of 30 years! Now that is an excellent value if I do say so myself. So, it may seem expensive now, but keep in mind that buying a good office chair is an investment, not an expense (investment for your back/health). It helps reduce/prevent back problems when u grow older. A good way to see if buying a chair is worth it is to just calculate their per year cost. Let's just say $1,500 and divide that by their 12-year warranty. That comes to a per year cost of only $125!!! I think most people even spend more money per year on their mobile plan than that lol. Additionally, as I mentioned b4, these high-end chairs typically outlast their 12-year warranty, so if u were to take good care of your chair and manage to make it last 30 years, that's only $50 a year! $50 a year just to invest in a good ergonomic chair that will take good care of your back for the next 30 years. I don't even need to tell u that this is extremely worth it.

Riding a remanufactured Leap v2 here, day 3 in the chair. I'm giving this chair a 2 week time frame to see if the pain stops. Currently, it is the most uncomfortable chair I've ever sat in. However, I did my homework before getting this and knew to expect a period of adjustment for my body, coming from cheaper chairs that weren't good for one's posture. Right now Ibuprofen seems to be the key to getting comfy in this chair. I can say going the remanufactured route, the chair was almost half, the brand-new price, and it comes with a 12 year warranty, just like the brand-new ones and it's from Steelcase approved seller. Just for specs, I'm 6'3" and weight around 375 Lbs. (mostly fat) and just barely fit into this chair. I echo someone else's comment, that these guys should have mentioned alternatives to some of the chairs they are talking about in this video. Good luck on your hunt!

@@gallorumrex You probably should not have picked Leap V2 which is actually one of their 5 recommended chairs for petite people which means the Leap V2 may not be for big and tall folks. Btod does have recommendations of big and tall chairs, you can try finding that video.

I bet the Cosm is one

@@nat2r if cosm come with a proper headrest it will be my no.1 chair

These guys are chair salesman..... Forbes is not..... Who do you believe most?

Ma nema jeff

the Ticova is currently at 215€ on amazon and theyve said its pretty good for the price and other youtuber have said the same about that chair.

I'm not sure you can find anything decent for €200. I'd suggest saving up and maybe start looking for a used Herman Miller.

Just get a used chair from HM, Steelcase, Haworth etc.

They do all the time, if you bother to look up and watch their other videos.

Literally a channel about chairs, they have tons of videos about chairs on their channel. LOL 😂

@@CP-zb3ky i do but they keep changing their mind and they dont have a best pick about for every category.

@@ImSiggi New chairs keep coming out, and opinions can change with longer term use, so the list may vary somewhat from time to time. They're good at keeping updated therefore the list wouldn't remain completely unchanged over the years. What are you looking for exactly? They come out with list of best chairs once a year I think.

@@CP-zb3ky im 190cm and 120kg. i was thinking about getting either a haworth fern or a herman miller mirra 2. not sure yet.. do u got any suggestion for me?

Steelcase's chairs are still unmatched IMO

Ugh idk what to get. I just want a great comfortable chair for at home gaming. I can get a refurbished leap 2 which I'm considering but there's so many that "look" more comfortable.

Yeah dude never mind that this channel is a bunch of dudes that make money directly from selling overpriced chairs..... Forbes though.... am I right?

Switched to the Embody which has been brilliant.

They did a video recently, where they ranked chair headrests using a tier list. Probably best to check out the chairs they have listed in S/A tier.

@@StardustLegacyFighter im sorry to bother, but do you mind linking that video?? I cant find it Edit: i actually found it sorry but thanks :)

For backpains, you have to sit in many many chairs within return period to find it out and it will take awhile - from someone who has scoliosis but haven't have any treatment.

That sounds like the opposite of an ergonomic chair. A chair with a fixed headrest and fixed arms will only be ergonomic for the small percentage of people that can fit the chair without needing to adjust it. I agree that mesh backs are great but not mesh seats. They are uncomfortable for a lot of people and can cause tailbone issues. -Ryan

@@btodtv Maybe some of the hi-end chairs where the armrests are much more sturdier. But think of this, my chair at work is 15 years old. The armrests have remained in the exact same position for 15 years. Never made any specific adjustments. I treat them as if they were in a fixed position. With that said, the armrests are awful. Always moving or wiggling. And they're not broken.

@@SooperFlye That is the purpose of an ergonomic chair. You set it once when you get it. And then you keep those settings forever, or until you have an accident and need to change posture. You're not supposed to change the settings every day. But you need the chair to be adjustable on that first use. If you want to completely get rid of the adjustments, then you need the chair built on measure for you like a costume. Or you are lucky enough that a fixed chair matches your body. But you are an exception.

Ryan is 5’9” -Greg

We bring in the chairs, we use them, we compare them and then we are honest about them. That’s not what Forbes did here. This would be no different than us making a list on the best websites to buy stocks, not using any of them and then linking out to them in hopes that you click on them so that we can make money. We are not qualified to make a list like that. The same goes for Forbes and this list. -Ryan

​@@btodtv OOOOOOOOH!!!!!! So your big brain arguments are as follows: Ryan from BTODtv - "We bring in the chairs, we use them, we compare them and then we are honest about them. That’s not what Forbes did here." Me - (sarcastically) "Oh dude totally. In no way shape or form did Forbes of all places buy these chairs and test them. Because there's no way they have a bunch of people using office chairs at their office. It just doesn't make sense....." 🙄 Ryan from BTODtv - "This would be no different than us making a list on the best websites to buy stocks, not using any of them and then linking out to them in hopes that you click on them so that we can make money. We are not qualified to make a list like that. The same goes for Forbes and this list." Me - (sarcasm aside) "I think with an argument like this it's pretty apparent you're not qualified to tell me where to invest my money. All the way down to my chair investment. Your argument still fails against the original point I made which is that you yourself have affiliate links. Links that, in your own words, are there 'in hopes that you click on them so that we can make money'. So Ryan are you telling me that your links are somehow different from their links? Because they're not. Also note that you have listed a whole bunch of affiliate links to items not even associated with this video. You're a chair salesman, so why are you linking to all of these items you are not an expert on Ryan? Again, as you say 'We are not qualified to make a list like that'. Stay in your lane Ryan. Then lets talk about how right underneath those links is a disclaimer that reads: 'We are an office furniture dealer and sell some of the products we review.' So Ryan should I trust a salesman more than Forbes? A company who isn't selling the thing they reviewed or a company who's sole purpose is to sell me this item? If anything every point you made completely undermines your own argument and your company model, at the very least here on KZfaq," So.... do you want to keep arguing? Because the more we talk the more you look like the least trusted chair reviews on KZfaq. I mean, if that wasn't the case before. I know it was for me. Original reply from BTODtv (in case of edits or deletion): We bring in the chairs, we use them, we compare them and then we are honest about them. That’s not what Forbes did here. This would be no different than us making a list on the best websites to buy stocks, not using any of them and then linking out to them in hopes that you click on them so that we can make money. We are not qualified to make a list like that. The same goes for Forbes and this list. -Ryan Ryan be like "I'm a chair expert! I can sit!" 🤤 One of us might be a troglodyte Ryan.

Do you think a list of products from 2 people that have never seen any of the products in the list is as valuable as a list from people that have used every product they review? I would personally never take product advice from someone who has never seen the product. You are just as educated as these authors on these chairs but they present themselves as experts in order get you to buy into the information that they are presenting. Like you said it’s Totally scummy. -RB

What a stupid comment. 🤦‍♀️

Lol looks like this guy is missing the plot. Get ur facts straight b4 trying to hate on BTOD for attention

@@btodtv That’s a good point that you guys are reviewing them from experience. I see the distinction, but that also wasn’t really my criticism. How do you ensure you’re being impartial when reviewing products you also sell or make monetary gain from? Are you not incentivized to encourage purchases of that product?

@@kristophersouza8104 Maybe it's because they genuinely like the Leap v2 a lot, and are therefore more than happy to recommend it and promote the chair via affiliate links? Stop being so cynical.