Can lemon juice actually be used as electrolyte? For business inquiries: promotion@garage54.ru Facebook: / garage54english
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@Gkuljian27 күн бұрын
Will we ever get to meet the translator? He's awesome.
@peppermeat805927 күн бұрын
its an AI
@DevFilip27 күн бұрын
it's not
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@@peppermeat8059 no, it's not.
@techtinkerin27 күн бұрын
Just search for BMI Russian
@dilloncrain130227 күн бұрын
Bmi Russian
@wolf.944027 күн бұрын
When life gives you lemons make batteries 😂
@PER5Y27 күн бұрын
Cave Johnson ?
@peterpanini9627 күн бұрын
Attemp to make them. 😂
@malicious111126 күн бұрын
And put them all in series, maybe use citric acid in higher concentration.
@nostalgeek287226 күн бұрын
Enjoy !
@whitesapphire586527 күн бұрын
What would have been a good and valid further experiment would have been to flush out the batteries and refill them with the original acid, then tested them to see how much of the batteries' original capacity had been lost, and whether or not the batteries would have once again been able to start the car. You never know, those batteries may have been entirely recoverable, or very nearly. Go on guys, I dare you, repeat this experiment and then restore the original chemistry - See what happens next?!
@kentworch26 күн бұрын
I'm thinking the acidity isn't concentrated enough. Batteries are 30-40% sulfuric acid, and fresh lemon juice that hasn't been concentrated is likely the 5% acidity ballpark I would guess. Slowly evaporating off some excess liquid and increasing the concentration of the citric acid might work better. I would probably try draining those batteries and refill with the concentrated juice.
@RaspingPompano226 күн бұрын
I agree but they do return to ideas they come up with routinely.
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE24 күн бұрын
Unfortunate that this was from 2019, so that's alot of work to go through again, since they'd need to recreate the initial setup (charging them with lemon juice).
@dragan329014 күн бұрын
@@kentworchit's 20 to 25 percent max according to battery manufacturers.
@kentworch13 күн бұрын
@@dragan3290 It's also lemon juice instead of sulfuric acid. It might take a higher concentration and definitely some experimenting to find the best results.
@Motor771027 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm pretty sure I know why they're not charging. I use to work at a lead acid battery factory. The negative plate loves organics in the lemon liquid but the positive plate absolutely does not like organics in the lemon juice. It's literally killing the positive plate. Just FYI
@dubskulls955427 күн бұрын
I wonder what would happen if you put lemon in the negative and just water in the positive 🤔
@Pharozos27 күн бұрын
Knowing very little about this I was wondering if some kind of barrier similar to oxidation was forming on the cathode or anode. Thanks for the insight.
@primonda5627 күн бұрын
@@dubskulls9554Both the positive and negative plate are in the same acid bath. They cannot be separated because the acid itself is what act as a transfer medium for the electric charge. To simplify, the acid is kinda like a wires in a circuit. If wires are disconnected, the circuit will not work, right?
@rakninja27 күн бұрын
so, do you think it would work better if the citric acid were distilled from the lemon juice, and then added to water to make the acid bath?
@tywaun627 күн бұрын
its base charge is the 8 volts measured when the juice was entered
@salamibigi718227 күн бұрын
You need to put some in series and some in parallel to get more volts and more current.
@tywaun627 күн бұрын
exactly. 2 in series and 2 in parallel would have done the trick
@russelllopez417127 күн бұрын
I wonder if they could use the lemons to charge a super capacitor, then start the car
@vincentrobinette150727 күн бұрын
Yes, that would increase voltage, but it would also reduce current. Remember, the total short circuit current of all six batteries in parallel was only 18 amps. That's enough to run the headlights, but won't even turn a starter motor, never mind, crank an engine.
@vincentrobinette150727 күн бұрын
@@russelllopez4171 That would actually work! The Lemons could charge the capacitors over an hour or so, so the capacitors can produce the enormous current needed for the few seconds it takes to start an engine.
@jameshatton421125 күн бұрын
100% It totally works too! I had 3 flat batteries (1 in my car) and i put 2 in series making 18v and it started the car no worries 👍 Ford 4 litre straight 6. I got at least 20 jump starts out of my make shift battery
@Monni9526 күн бұрын
Too much lemon juice and too short charging time... You also need to use lower charging current with a new battery. Old school mechanics use capacitor to help the battery accept charge.
@StewsChannel27 күн бұрын
i wonder if you dump them out, rinse them with distilled water, and then refill with battery acid if they will work again? I would give it a shot since you probably got the acid in one of those filler gizmos when you bought the batteries 😉
@NathansMoparGarage27 күн бұрын
You guys forgot the sugar.
@VintageCR27 күн бұрын
salt* is a better conducting substance.
@quodpipax27 күн бұрын
@@VintageCR he had lemonade in mind
@qoph198827 күн бұрын
And vodka
@svosin27 күн бұрын
@@qoph1988 oh yeah, screwdriver cocktail battery
@hkr321hkr27 күн бұрын
🤦
@TheStoney0727 күн бұрын
seriously one of the best channels on YT
@LSniumUwU27 күн бұрын
When life gives you lemons, don't make car batteries.
@1marcelfilms13 күн бұрын
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@friskydingo537027 күн бұрын
It's Russia use potatoes, copper, and magnesium. It will work. Each cell will provide a potential 1.5 volts at 300ma each potato 🥔 😀 100 potatoes approximately 30amps if everything is setup well
@vincentrobinette150727 күн бұрын
That would work to charge a proper battery over a long time, to store enough energy for the high current for the few seconds it takes to start an engine.
@roberthorchar569025 күн бұрын
I'm so happy I found you all! Thank you for the videos.
@alexfischer949327 күн бұрын
lemon squeezy
@sczullkjengker838027 күн бұрын
Not often you see the boss do everything alone
@twocvbloke27 күн бұрын
The juice is the problem, because it's juice, made up with water, sugars, fibre from the lemons, and in there is the citric acid which is what makes the batteries "work", boiling the juice down, filtering out the fibre and somehow separating out the sugars would yeild a useful amount of citric acid, which would very likely get the batteries working, of course, it'd be easier just to get a tub of citric acid, make up a saturated solution of it in distilled water and you're off the the lemon races... :P
@ravennajade343526 күн бұрын
They can't power a starter/solenoid because they were wired wrong. You need around 11.5v-14v to run those things, but still a good amount of amperage. So maybe try it like this: two sets of batteries - each set has 3 batteries wired in parallel. Now wire the two sets in series, about 15v. That probably would have at least turned the starter that was outside the engine.
@moefuggerr297027 күн бұрын
Not acid enough. Try 2 in series to double the voltage then wire each pair in parallel for your current.
@vincentrobinette150727 күн бұрын
That would cut the available current from 18 amps, to just 9 amps.
@rockyrivermushrooms52927 күн бұрын
Maybe concentrating the juice would help
@16driver1625 күн бұрын
That's what I was also wondering 🤔 does that increase acidity?
@UnknownIndo15 күн бұрын
Yes
@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr2 күн бұрын
I reckon if you wash out the lemon juice in those batteries and fill with the acid again they will work. I washed a battery out before and it worked like a charm. :) What normally happens in a lead acid battery is the lead sulphate falls to the base of the battery and short circuits it, if that lead precipitate is removed it no longer shorts and the battery has a longer life than one would expect.
@Jeremy_Hill_202027 күн бұрын
You should turn a Lada into an EV lol
@johngillon696927 күн бұрын
put a lada engine in a tesla better
@381delirius27 күн бұрын
All homemade batteries
@user-qi9be4lv7l27 күн бұрын
Screw all EVs. All are garbage.
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@Mr.Robert127 күн бұрын
@@user-qi9be4lv7l The day when my friends were buying EVs. I set them all down, asked one simple question. Where does the electricity come from? Some were Clueless. Others made up their own stories. 75% Fossil fuels. The entire EV movement is a Hoax a Scam. Makes no sense at all. If anything, Hybrid.
@jameshatton421125 күн бұрын
If the batteries are ruined, then you may as well put 2 in series to see if you can bump the voltage up to 12v? With a flat battery in my car, I used 2 flat car batteries in series to get my total voltage to 18v and that cranked my 4.0L straight 6 over many many times? I think it was near 20 cranks before the voltage sagged and it struggled to start? I would also try connect 1 battery to your charger as the charger is distributing the amps over the batteries in parallel, so that will make each battery charge very very slow? Some battery chargers need to see a minimum amount of voltage before the charger will charge at the full amps? Put 1 battery on the charger and then use a fully charged car battery positive to positive (making only 2 batteries in parallel - 1 fully charged the other 1 of your lemon batteries) the fully charged battery should bump the voltage up on the lemon battery and allow the charger to charge at full amps 👍 Very last thing is to try a different battery charger with different modes on it? Select the recondition mode and try changing the battery? I have 2 chargers at home and 1 of them will error out and not charge the battery if it's too flat; the other charger with the various modes on it, will charge the battery that wouldn't charge on the other battery charger? I hope you get to try these tips and one then helps.....I really want to see you start the car with a lemon battery breaking bad style hahaha
@philoffhistree670011 күн бұрын
should have put two x 2 in parallel then put those 2 set in series you would have had the right amount needed with just four, it's the way you connected them
@jamesMwebber27 күн бұрын
The ridge racer music from the 90s was great 😂
@msmith503027 күн бұрын
Well that was an interesting experiment. May I suggest you empty out the lemon juice and refill with battery acid. Just a thought😀
@kentworch26 күн бұрын
I would save those batteries, dump the lemon juice out and try it again when concentrated lemon juice. Think about the concentration of sulfuric acid in the battery. If the lemon juice were concentrated to the same acidity, it might work better. Would be cool to see lemon juice or vinegar at a similar or greater concentration. Maybe even 40% might be more ideal. If you can drain those, you might be able to reuse them. Anyway still a cool experiment. Love you guys.👍
@Devo198726 күн бұрын
Should have put the lemon juice through a coffee filter then into the battery. CHUNKS😂
@Z_73227 күн бұрын
You guys are awesome!
@SethMethCS24 күн бұрын
I want to see Garage54 reverse the GagFilms “Insane Car Battery Hack” by taking the housing of an OEM car battery and filling it up with AA batteries, wired appropriately. How many times can you start with car with several hundred AA batteries?
@conquistador142514 күн бұрын
The specific gravity of lemon juice is lower than battery acid.
@aarong937827 күн бұрын
Should have run pairs in series and each of the pairs in parallel. They could have easily gotten to over 12V with good current.
@patrickbrady44727 күн бұрын
I think you should have left them on charge much longer to give them a chance to get fully charged. 6 batteries even with acid would take a long time to charge with that small charger.
@thelavalattergamer624226 күн бұрын
Try to evaporate water to make it more potent so you will have more energy to store
@Snarlacc25 күн бұрын
Citric acid wiill dissolve thelead anode and lead dioxide cathode while sulfuric acid will not attack the cathode. So my guess is, that the citric acid dissolves the cathode and that lowers the voltage.
@alexeatonexploresamerica551127 күн бұрын
These dudes got more time in their hands than they know what to do with
@simonallan994127 күн бұрын
The last dry motorcycle battery I bought, it was already pre-charged, before I added the electrolyte, as it said on the packaging.
@brianbush577426 күн бұрын
Should be able to wire 3 sets of batteries in series to get 14v and wire the 3 sets of batteries together in parallel to get more power
@Coldphoenix4427 күн бұрын
When cells overflow there is electrolytic coupling between them and that can ruin the voltage/amperage
@Uvershen25 күн бұрын
A great video idea is comparing hp and fuel efficency with using different octane fuels
@IAmTheShaz27 күн бұрын
I’m surprised you didn’t hook them up in series to boost the voltage
@McKaiverI26 күн бұрын
More batteries and a few in a row! I want to see them starting a motor!😆
@Drenov27 күн бұрын
Wire them in series, or 2 parallel banks in series?
@vincentrobinette150727 күн бұрын
That would increase voltage, but would also reduce available current. Remember, all six batteries in parallel only managed a short-circuit current of only 18 amps. Series-paralleling the batteries for 24 volts, would cut that current to a mere 9 amps.
@Drenov27 күн бұрын
@@vincentrobinette1507Ohm's law only works when using Ohmic resistance and it probably won't apply for that set up. I wanted to see it tried, then finally I'd like to see them all in series. It's not a great deal more effort.
@techtinkerin27 күн бұрын
I like how they try even if it doesn't work, хороший характер 😊
@trevorlayton942526 күн бұрын
When heating lemon juice (citric acid) it breaks down so the acid boiling is a bad thing if you want it to charge it you must do it slower and with temperature monitoring
@trevorlayton942526 күн бұрын
And there is a lot of water in the lemon juice so it's going to cause issues either way with the oxygen reacting with the lead and the higher levels of hydrogen production than a normal battery
@jayday487926 күн бұрын
Citric acid can be used instead of cyanide as an electroplating flash agent my guess is your dissolving the lead into lead citrate more expensive batteries contain calcium metal and silver which also make citrates
@Choochinc27 күн бұрын
Should have tried Gatorade. I've heard that stuff's full of electrolytes. I'm sure it would work great.
@geemcspankinson27 күн бұрын
They should try giving them electrolytes to plants
@eddiewillers127 күн бұрын
@@geemcspankinson It's what plants crave!
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@eric_d26 күн бұрын
@@eddiewillers1 I came here to make the exact same comment! 😀
@samsaverino815927 күн бұрын
Should have wired them in a combination of series and parallel to make the output 14v. I think you might have had a chance that way.
@MRPricks27 күн бұрын
Charging lemonade love it 🤣
@HeyKevo7727 күн бұрын
Hello. i watch from Canada! I Love your channel, keep the episodes coming, maybe yuo can do something like and Lada 4X4 Remote Control crawler
@chadholmes705112 күн бұрын
I believe from memory "aka I can’t be bothered googling it" the chemical reaction that takes place in a lead acid accumulator as it was known is very specific with the chemical reaction involving particular compounds the reaction I believe is from lead and lead oxide then the acid actually binds with the plates on discharge to be come lead sulphate and the charge cycle reverses the process drives the lead out of the plates to restore the original state hence this reaction doesn’t work in the absence of sulphuric acid this being a key part of the reaction and isn’t necessarily replaceable with a different acid especially one so different as to if a different acid works it’s remotely possible I suppose but I doubt it.
@chadholmes705112 күн бұрын
The small voltage produced here is a galvanic charge not a true secondary cell operating state
@dragan329013 күн бұрын
Can you try citric acid in concentrated form? Or Saltwater? Any reply appreciated cheers from Australia 👍
@GarrisonsMadHouse27 күн бұрын
Did you try concentrating it by condensing it to strengthen the acid? (Evaporate the water out)
@bassmaster978127 күн бұрын
Im sure vodka would have been better
@nalinagarwal730027 күн бұрын
Even if you filter the lemon juice, pure lemon juice is a much weaker acid than 35% concentration sulphuric acid. Real battery electrolyte consists of 35% sulphuric acid & 65% distilled water. But then I guess everyone knows that. If i had to try lemon juice, I'd filter it a few times to get it as clear as possible. Then concentrate it till you get the correct specific gravity (1260 gravity measured with hydrometer) It may still not work but we'd like to see the results. Very entertaining channel though and great voiceover.
@christmassnow346526 күн бұрын
You should try to use a solution of lemon salt instead - You can mix the right amount whatever acid concentration you need. Can we replace a lead-acid battery with a Lithium-Ion battery instead?
@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr2 күн бұрын
Yes you could.
@sgottoboni27 күн бұрын
Yes you can have voltage. But also amperage is important.
@TheCustomFHD27 күн бұрын
You Could try taking half of these and hooking them into series. 7+7=14V but at half the amps
@dcfuksurmom24 күн бұрын
even at higher voltage it would not work because of the lower current lol
@CNCmachiningisfun26 күн бұрын
Will this rejuice the voltage?
@mwbgaming2826 күн бұрын
Make an electric Lada using car batteries and starter motors
@dcfuksurmom24 күн бұрын
starter motors are not designed to run for extended periods of time, especially under heavy load like that. they would burn up pretty quickly.
@RODALCO200727 күн бұрын
Great experiment. Remove the citrus , rinse the battery plates and refill with H2SO4 and see if the batteries still work.
@Aleks_Mechanics27 күн бұрын
Have a Great weekend!🔥🔥🔥
@HwSystems27 күн бұрын
Lead Citrate is soluble in water. It will destroy the plate.
@merwindor27 күн бұрын
You might need a ton more batteries in parallel to get the cranking amps for the starter motor.
@Rustaceann27 күн бұрын
OK so after talking to ChatGPT it seems that "During discharge (when current is drawn), sulfuric acid dissociates into ions, facilitating the flow of electrons and generating electrical energy." and that lemon juice, while acidic, is not reactive enough to provide enough ions. This implies it would cause a bottleneck for the electrons, which makes sense since you are seeing voltage and SOME current flow, but not as much as you would get from the more reactive sulfuric acid for the same volume of liquid. SOLUTION: A lot more batteries. You can also do a "bank" of a few batteries in series to increase the voltage, and then combine the banks in parallel to divide the current draw between them
@realflow10026 күн бұрын
Actually you can get a lot closer to sulfuric acid performance by making a saturated solution of sodium sulfate and aluminum sulfate for the electrolyte. It makes 2 volts per cell and has decent capacity and performance. and can provide power for at least some time. You can just use one car battery instead of a bank of small ones. it works ive tried it.
@travismoore784926 күн бұрын
The acid is not strong enough. IT may be residual sulfate when lead acid batteries are precharged in the store. You may be better off using aluminum and magnesium sulfate mixed in distilled water in the lead acid battery. You may have to clean out the used batteries of lemon juice and flush with distilled water. And trickle charge them after filling with the aluminum and magnesium sulfates, if not 50% aluminum sulfate and 25% potassium and magnesium sulfate for alum battery. It may take time for them to form. Expect about 8 volts per battery or so. Aluminum sulfate should do okay by itself.
@sakurojason27 күн бұрын
Connecting the batteries in parallel increases capacity, connecting them in series increases voltage.
@Ht-6016 күн бұрын
5:29 it's the water transforming into oxygen and hydrogen (electrolysis)
@niemma215 күн бұрын
What if you have flat battery situation and you use that battery to get a spark when car is given push-start. I kind of expected them to even try this.
@Moonlightshadow-lq4fr2 күн бұрын
That would work! I have started a car using a 9 volt transistor radio battery and push started the car.! The solenoid and starter motor are the worst enemies of the battery. It's also worth taking note that if you wire a 9 volt battery to the terminals then take the battery off to charge or replace you don't have to re-program a car radio with a code as the radio will have enough power to store the information.
@Funkybulb25 күн бұрын
I have heard that stuff that make pickle juice have great results
@renasdupont280627 күн бұрын
should be charged much longer to work properly and activate
@shaneeslick27 күн бұрын
G'day Garage54 & BMI, 🤔So when will the new Garage54 Lemon Flavoured Energy Drink with Extra ZIIIIING be available😋🥤
@siemens45127 күн бұрын
how about if you put together 3+3 batteries in series? at least you would get higher voltage, maybe the starter motor would react?
@tjlingram27 күн бұрын
Wouldnt the liquid jumping over to the other cell be causing a short?. Be why your getting spuracted voltage drops. The expanshion of liquids means theres less space in the meaning there is to much acid.
@RaspingPompano226 күн бұрын
Come to the US and our battery charger are the size of a welder, go to Russia and they figured out how to make a book sized battery charger.
@joe3072525 күн бұрын
Make 20 sets of these connect in series/ parallel and see if it will start a car
@superglx702827 күн бұрын
You should have boiled the juice down to make more concentrated
@3rdpig27 күн бұрын
How to destroy six motorcycle batteries with this one simple trick!
@Adam_Lyskawa27 күн бұрын
Don't even compare a bulb to a starter motor. You need roughly 100x more power for it ;) Now why it doesn't work well: the orange juice contains some citric acid that theoretically should do the job, but also water and other chemicals. It may be too weak (acid concentration too low), then - the other, not very conductive or reactive impurities might cover the electrodes and introduce resistance. The resistance is the worst thing because it means a huge loss of power when a heavy load (as a starter motor) is connected. Well, the lemon juice works as "battery acid", but pretty poorly.
@fivestar222727 күн бұрын
Great idea to charge a phone in a survival situation.
@GarrisonsMadHouse27 күн бұрын
You won't need a phone in the time this will be needed because there won't be any service
@truthsmiles27 күн бұрын
All I need is to carry around 50 pounds of lead everywhere I go. Oh, and 300 lemons.
@fivestar222725 күн бұрын
@@GarrisonsMadHouse6200 Starlink satellites in the sky say otherwise.
@fivestar222725 күн бұрын
@@truthsmiles Heres an idea juice the 300 lemons and do some manual labor to build muscle so you can carry a few 9 pound moto batteries.
@sargonchlimon447226 күн бұрын
Hi Use it in series to get higher voltage
@alvinhyman683825 күн бұрын
With pure lemon juice the acid level was too high. It may have worked if the PH level was correct before filling the batteries. Battery health or ability to function is directly correlated to the PH of the electrolyte.
@anibalbabilonia186726 күн бұрын
That’s a lemon battery! It didn’t work well.👋😂👉🍋🔋
@everydaycar351824 күн бұрын
you should try boiling them with a welder to bring them back to life
@hkr321hkr27 күн бұрын
Can you send link to that charger
@WudrowWilson27 күн бұрын
Interesting experiment
@stefenheiff220827 күн бұрын
Too many contaminants in the orange juice. Looking up the battery model, these are indeed supposed to produce 12V, where one cell should output 2.2V
@spore200917 күн бұрын
the batteries still work
@user-yr6pz8te5e26 күн бұрын
You only need that the spark plugs are working, You would try pushing the car to start the motor.
@SantaClaw27 күн бұрын
The lemon juice will cause internal shorts in the battery. IF you had filled it with water, you'd have a better chance of making a battery out of it after charging.
@isaacwhite741127 күн бұрын
You maybe able to wash out the batteries with distilled water and then fill them with sulfuric acid 🤔🤔that would be cool to see do you think you could make another video of that to see what happens?
@jirilejsek443727 күн бұрын
Sorry, but this was completely stupid. When the voltage is going down during charging, it is a good sign - it means that internal resistance is dropping. I would use lower current (so it is not boiling so much) and let it charge at least 24 hours.
@BrockTemple8727 күн бұрын
To be fair this was an experiment done by someone whom is not a scientist.
@UndregoGrey27 күн бұрын
Current must go down when charging not Voltage
@BrockTemple8727 күн бұрын
@UndregoGrey see I didn't know that since I sucked in science class haha
@jirilejsek443726 күн бұрын
@@UndregoGrey current cannot go down when you charge by constant current...
@larryphillips416427 күн бұрын
Bro split that battery bank into 2 series and 2 parallel and retest the starter motor. That’ll give you like 12amps when it’s under load and that might turn it over.
@strokermaverick27 күн бұрын
Try, distilled water and ebsom salt, in dry batteries.
@gueburah27 күн бұрын
try to put parallels of 2 in series, it will give about 18v
@wildfire834126 күн бұрын
Thank you BMI russian .. nice voice over
@Jarda_B26 күн бұрын
When will people understand that you actually need a lot of Amps to even turn the starter motor, on 12V system you need roughtly 170A just to get 2KW of cranking power. STARTING A CAR CAN TAKE UP TO 400A WITHOUT A SWEAT💀
@kaiserwilli27 күн бұрын
Run it in two series groups of parallel batteries to get it to 14v. That will get the voltage high enough. But with the voltage drop you're getting from the light, you're going to need a lot more batteries to get the current up enough to start an engine.
@Mr.Robert127 күн бұрын
Time, Money Energy. Best spent on the purchase of a new.
@OrlandoPaco26 күн бұрын
Paralel and series! 7+7,7+7,7+7x2!
@CloudandZack1st27 күн бұрын
I thought you were going to try this on a car battery and test drive it.
@jamesferrell940427 күн бұрын
Try flushing the lemon juice out and use the battery acid to see if they will recover
@lesklower728125 күн бұрын
Lemon juice is slightly acidic the results weren't surprising