Up for this!

Up for this. And caco well be cameraman naman😁

OG TopGear feels..

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Native habitat of the endemic reptile Crocodylus kotongensis

It's like saying to test it in croc infested waters.

​@@lieutenantkettch😂

I was gonna say the same!

Manila enforcers will try to confiscate your license even they are not permitted to. And will say they have no notice about it.

hybrid cars was first use at the end of 90's therefore nothing is new here. you still need to replace the costly battery after 4-5 years

​@@carlosmolina3850and how much is that? im curious 😅

​@@carlosmolina3850both nissan and toyota batteries take 10 years before there will be any noticeable battery degradation

this is not an EV/PHEV car so not exempt from coding...

Ev po charged by built in generator lng

@@lorgienillgodinez1997 not considered an EV (which has no engine at all but purely electric motor) or PHEV - Plugin Hybrid Electric Vehicle (there is an engine and electric motor which you can chrge from external source) ...while a Hybrid engine...has a smaller battery for the electric motor but cannot be charge from external source...anyway i stand corrected it is exempt from coding...

In the future, EV/Hybrids will have their own type of plate. But yeah, at the moment, unless the traffic enforcer was listening to their briefings (if they have any), what you have said has a likelihood of happening.

Well said

@@jeddpires yeah this definitely is the way, but it needs to be done by 2025, otherwise the differentiation won't be effective by 2030 unless they start giving more different rules between EV, PHEV/EV, and ICE

to be fair, not even the general populace is aware on what cars are EVs, HEVs, PHEVs, or regular ICE engines. You either have to be an EV simp or a car guy updated with EV news to actually be aware which is which. So I can't exactly blame them as well if not many of them don't know what is and what's not. It also doesn't help that many car brands have hybrid and EV version of their regular cars. A quick fix with this is to let LTO make specific plates for EVs and the like. Or force manufacturers to make a specific design to ensure people will know it's an EV like say putting an EV badge on the front using a specific color on the front grille area (or the area where one should be found on an ICE engine) to denote that it's an EV. Or hell, even a special sticker from LTO on the windshield should be enough to denote that it's an EV.

@@dickmelsonlupot7697 yeah the plate number is really the easiest option to identify without asking for an OR/CR. Hybrid badges are cheap to buy and people can easily stick them on non-hybrid variants of hybrid vehicles. The other expectation is at the very least a training or circular to traffic enforcers regarding the hybrid vehicles available, but as they start to increase in numbers it's a less feasible solution

EVs and Hybrids will supposedly have green plates

@@jeddpires That would sound dumbb and confusing simply because the old normal plates used green. the addition of an "E" or "EV" somewhere in your plate number or using a different color like say blue

Meron nang nilabas na memo yung LTO regarding sa bagong plate numbers ng EVs at hybrids. It looks like yung last letter sa plate number would be V, W, X, Y, Z tapos yung middle letter sa EV is from A to M at sa hybrid from N to Z.

Then pay 3M pesos dude. You have that money?

My exact thoughts

Apparently they don't watch each other's videos 😅

i would think they were trained to Identify the make and model as well as look for indicators like an EV badge/emblem somewhere around the car. I could be wrong but I thought that EV vehicles are/will be provided special plates for easier identification and would make it harder to fake like the EV badges/emblems. Also, this is the Philippines, enforcers sometimes choose who to flag down. And sometimes just taking the driver's word is less of a hassle than asking for additional documents. Everyone has somewhere to be and work to do. 😅 On a side note, SoJooCars did this test with the Ertiga and enforcers also just took his word for it, even though he has the docs prepared.

@@pepitolopez4233 for me had to show the sales invoice since the new lexus es300h doesnt display any hybrid indicators anymore

this is not an EV/PHEV car so not exempt from coding...

@@rauldelossantos7700 The EVIDA Law covers hybrids, my friend. They just need to get their hybrid vehicle certified in LTO.

​@@rauldelossantos7700 but it's a hybrid, so it is still within the scope. Full EV/PHEV and Hybrid (regardless if the gas engine makes the car move, the electric motor, or both) are exempted.

agreed. we should not look into the drivetrain but the emissions or gas consumption! Nissan Kicks does not deserve to be exempted from the coding scheme.

The smaller the engine the higher the revs to produce more charging power.

@@milopichu and what is the RPM range to charge the battery?

@@suroysuroypinas any naman BUT for example accelerating hard ka, the battery will deplete easily also. So need mag rev higher ng engine to compensate for the decreased batter depletion. Assuming na naturally aspirated ang setup, di hamak na mas maraming power napoproduce ng larger engine per cycle which requires less RPM. Ultimately naman all of its power goes through the battery.

I think the ertiga and all the other mild hybrid cars will soon not be exempted from coding per the recent DOE memo since they are basically kind of fake hybrids.

good one!

Yes it is under HEV together with the Corolla Cross

If you mean "can" then yes. I did get 99km/l on short drives. And 30-68km/l on a couple of midnight drives. But then again depends on the route, driving habits, and driving conditions. But if you mean average per full tank. Then yes 18-25. I'm getting 15.6km/l average per full tank, heavy traffic, city drive within metro manila.

Smoother ang gas tho. I think the smoothness was what they were aiming for naman talaga. Makes me wonder how Toyota will execute their Hilux hybrid in Australia tho.

this is not an EV/PHEV car so not exempt from coding...

@@rauldelossantos7700 EV, PHEV and HEV are exempted from coding. What is not exempted are the MHEVs or mild hybrid vehicles because they are not technically hybrids since their electric motor alone cannot be used to run the vehicle.

@@valalpasan4155 yes i stand corrected...thank you...

In Manila as long as it’s a full hybrid, a PHEV, or a BEV, it is exempted.

In Manila we have a green line plate for Hybrid. It's relatively new format so..

I can't exactly blame the enforcers especially since it's also *OUR* (specifically other kamote pinoys) fault that some of them won't listen because they know a lot of pinoys love to make excuses. And it doesn't help that manufacturers make the cars very similar to ICE cars (like the Leaf or even this Kicks looking like your typical Nissan ICE cars) or even use regular ICE vehicles as a platform and sell EV or hybrid versions of said models. Examples are the Corolla Hybrid, Corolla Cross Hybrid, the Tiggo 8 Pro PHEV, the Lexus Hybrids (like the IS, ES, LS, NX & RX), the Mitsubishi Outlander (yes, it's actually an ICE vehicle but it's the PHEV version is the only one sold here), the many "Mild Hybrid" vehicles in the market like the Azkarra, Ertiga, Okavango & more and all the other examples out there. It's really very confusing if you actually look at all of them, so yeah, I can't exactly blame them. LTO needs to change license plate numbers for EVs or Hybrids or give special reflective stickers to EV & hybrid owners which they can put on their windshield. Much better if may RFID siya and have enforcers be equipped with scanners to see the data and verify that the vehicle is an EV or hybrid

@@dickmelsonlupot7697 meron nang nilabas na memo yung LTO regarding sa bagong plate numbers ng EVs at hybrids. It looks like yung last letter sa plate number would be V, W, X, Y, Z tapos yung middle letter sa EV is from A to M at sa hybrid from N to Z.

😂 I don't know how your friend drives but 25km/L is actually pretty average for a kicks on a highway. Most ppl that have kicks (we have a group page that frequently shares our FC with routes&load included) can get it to 25-35 easily.

@@josephcadiao5751 like i said, the data on that page of the Kicks dashboard MID would have been clear info as those numbers on those four (fc average, total distance travelled, average speed, total running time) all tally if you try to check using 2 of the logged figures to manually compute Also just because you are running the Kicks at 90 or 100kph or any other vehicle, does not automatically mean the logged “average speed” would show 90 or 100kph, because it includes slower speeds before you reach toll booths and any slow down on the highway. That’s why the data (or screen capture of that page) would clear up this question. You could get 25km/l to 35km/l on the Kicks MID with a specific snap shot in time of the Kicks along the Highway, heck even the city. They even had their Fc average in their makati crawl at around 13.5km/l showing (said 14km/l in the video at around 6:00 mark) and im not arguing against that. It will happen in the more realistic scenarios. And usually that’s for typical city traffic average speeds of around 12kmph to 13kmph, with lots of idling time. Friend is able to achieve digital MID FC average of around 16 to 17km/l (manual computation is closer to 15 to 16km/l about a 5% variance), with logged average speed of about 14 to 15 kmph city driving. Highway trying to keep a maintained 90kmph to 100kmph speed with some mixed settings start and finish (as well as any slowdowns) would net an average speed (logged) of about below 60kmph but still not getting actual near 25km/l. Again, that is his experience and he shares with me. Great if you get 25 to 35km/l easily. But wouldn’t you agree that page on the MID dashboard would have provided clearer information on how the 25km/l average was logged/recorded?

@@mjss1984 Not against it but I'd rather have blind spot monitoring like in Thailand than that feature. And yeah, +5/-5 variance in digi FC vs Full Tank method is pretty accurate.

@@josephcadiao5751 true. Especially for the TOTL Kicks, I do believe having the BMS with FCW completes the package in terms of safety monitoring. AEB is a nice to have when you really need it. That part of the screen that I would just want Nissan PH to enable via software is an oddity because Nissan has said that part of the screen (lower left hand side) is there. The computer and MID has the software already to monitor battery level, whether charging, discharging and regening in the first page of the MID dashboard anyway. Why isn't that easy to view small icon(s) on the lower hand side available though if the screen is there? It seems odd to "exclude" the feature via software if the hardware is already there. That way you never really need to go to the page 1 of the MID Dashboard if you are monitoring your battery charge level as you are nearing your destination to shut off the vehicle. I don't clock enough kilometers in a year to enjoy the benefits of the hybrid TBH, that's why I didn't. Kicks is nice, but I think the main upgrade they would need to consider for future is a better suspension that allows for "more travel/cushioning" but I do understand there is limited space between the tires and the wheel arch as it is already. For the price, especially for the base and mid trim Kicks, there really is not much to find to be "wanting".

The latest list I saw isn't even updated. They don't even have Tesla, unfortunately. Hopefully, they get to update the list soon.

tingin ko di na po ito dapat pa i contest, y...kasi pag feed ng plate number sa system eh for sure babasahin ang rehistro, then makikita na EV ito or car run by motor..correct me if im wrong😁