I don't own or planning to buy a Tesla but your statement of Tesla interior feeling cheap is more of an opinion. My friends who own Tesla's seem to love them and I've been in Tesla's as a passenger and Tesla's feel pretty luxurious and clutter free. Minimalistic doesn't mean cheap. But I do see the design language is different between both companies. There are a lot of things I don't like about Teslas but there are a ton of things I do like about them. The center screen on R2 looks super laggy and I'm sure R2 won't be anywhere close to a Tesla for features like autopilot but I wish they ramp-up by the time of release. I did in fact reserve an R2 that I'm planning to buy. I like boxy stuff... Sorry Tesla! I only wish R2 had the tech stack that Tesla's had. Fingers crossed.

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They're cool!

Definitely agree 👍 Compared to model y the r2 is so much better in build quality, reliability, performance practicality. Can't wait to get my hands on one 🙌

You know the r2 doesn't come out till sometime 2026 and the R3 has no date right?

Do you need 3 rows or 2, that should answer it

Used R1s won't be nearly as cheap for a while

@@zkistler uh might want to verify that, I've seen a few near me in ATL for near 60k already. And Alex on autos who is dialed into ev stuff. Claims the r2s could hit 70k in tri motor trim with large pack, the base 270 mile rwd no options version is the bragged about 45k unit. Other's have said they expect the mid trim larger pack r2s to be 55-60k+depending on the options. Assuming rivian even survives to launch it in 2+more years?

@@zkistler if we’ve learned anything in the last 5 years, depreciation is hard to predict. A loaded R2 could be 55k plus. R1s could hit that in 2025

Ugly head lights🤣🤣

Great catch, when we were on site Rivian mentioned they do *not* fold flat otherwise we would have included - either way we apologize for the error!

@@InsideEVsUS In the unveiling event they made a big point to specifically mention and show that the first row seats both fold flat. It's a huge feature.

😂😂😂😂 ugly

Really need to have ventilated seats!

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same. I'm in for aroun 600 at $9 ish

What did you miss about it? We're considering bringing it back 🤔.

@@InsideEVsUS great to hear! Off the top: I was a longtime viewer and initially went over to Batteries Included when those guys left, but I often watched the IEVs podcast later and finally decided that it was the more interesting product. I liked the consistency of the hosts, whereas the competition seems to have problems getting the gang together reliably (and I've seen other people grumbling about certain hosts being MIA again). I also liked the more international (at least as far as the western world is concerned) perspective, and the British sense of humour is always welcome 😁 Gender parity was also nice to see, especially in this space. The hosting was also a bit more polished and the format a bit tighter; when you guys wrapped up I often still wanted a bit more, whereas the competition sometimes leaves me wondering when they'll wrap up. Finally, you all had the benefit of not having to plug your own channels constantly; the Inside EVs podcast was actually about (Inside) EVs, not about four other channels. I really appreciate the BI-guys' expertise, varied perspectives and different interests (and especially Martyn's rants), but ultimately I'd still give the edge to you all. But most important: I think the real downfall of your show was trying to compete in the same timeslot. I know you guys want to have a weekend too, but make it a Sunday show and I think you'd be off to the races 👍 Side note: I recommended your podcast to my brother, who is very interested in EVs, and he liked what he was hearing, but he tuned in basically just in time for you to announce that it was the last episode 🤦 So anyway, a bit long-winded there, but I hope there's something you can use in future product planning.

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Glad we could help out!

We addressed that in another comment above, thank you!

The R2 we were filming is still in prototype, so we don't know yet unfortunately!

@@InsideEVsUS Thanks so much !

Yes.

What the hell are u talking about 🤦‍♂️

It won't be by any measure. Let's see if rivian even survives to launch it?

I was going to point that out as well, but you beat me to the punch. It was an odd thing to say.

We should clarify - the first non-Tesla car we've seen in person with a NACS port, not necessarily the first one on the road.

@@InsideEVsUS Unfortunately they put the port in the wrong place. Hope they change it.

@@StormyDog Streetside charging, can't have it in the front because some models will only have motors in the back so it needs to be in the back

Not live, just fresh - just 10 minutes long

Yes, the Rivian store in Manhattan!

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Rwd no options smaller pack with est 270miles of range is the click bait 45k r2. Mkbd verified this with rj btw on his review video. So worse deal than a current available today model Y. Should be interesting to see if rivian survives to launch this in 2026. 🤔

@@4literv6 yeah , but see I like other flavors of ice cream than just vanilla. So why should there not be more options for consumers to choose from . More choice is good . If we are serious about people switching from ICE to EV, then this is needed. There is more than enough room for both to exist and thrive.

@@Rx100Vx This is true. I’m a Tesla fanboy I guess but I’m getting to a point where I hope Rivian survives because I think they can make good vehicles and they make some smart design choices. That UI interface is sophisticated and looked silky smooth like Tesla’s UI. I’m not sure if they really have a solid strategy to make a profit on a $45k SUV so we’ll have to see.

@@FriedChairs 45k will be starting price . So there will be other higher priced variants.it’s up to the consumer to choose and pay . Also 45k is before the 7500k tax rebate. They for sure will make money not just on car sales but they also have level 3 autonomy and other services planned. They have mentioned use of 4695 battery pack. They will build them initially in current factory. So they will survive and thrive . And if Tesla “fanboys” are smart they will realize that more Rivians only helps Tesla ( supercharger revenue) and Electric future , especially when legacy auto is moving to Hybrids.

Streetside charging, can't have it in the front because some models will only have motors in the back so it needs to be in the back

​@royboypey if it's intended for streetside parking, then the charger location should be in the front passenger side for easier access to Tesla chargers.

Some Tesla Superchargers have stalls on both ends to solve this issue. Hopefully becomes more common.

The latest version of supercharger has longer cords for theis reason. i suspect they will retrofit older superchargers as well.

Do Tesla people not just back in their cars into parking spots? Is the length of the charger cable on these superchargers the problem? I have seen this concern written multiple times and I still don’t understand… just back into a spot in front a charger and this port will be in the same area as if you pulled in with a car that has the port in the front, right?

It's called mass production.

They have their challenges but if they get this to market they will be fine.

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Poor station design is not Rivian’s problem.

​@@cypvh74 Stations work great I use them everyday buddy. It was designed as intended.

That's what I was wondering.

Just to get orders in 😂shit company

RJ said first half of 2026

@@sedo5505 Ahh I thought they said 2026, which in the car would essentially means end of 2025!

Pfft that's crazy. Why are you even here? Just to type all of that?

Haha ya chill out. It's just a cool upcoming EV people like.

this is just a guy who short the stock making a comment, a lot of people expect to make a lot of money if Rivian fail, best of luck Rivian

Ugly

What do they say

Solar punk vs cyber punk aesthetic. Personal cyber punk seems like a nightmarish but many seem to want that future.

The Cybertruck looks like it was "designed" by a 12 year old using Microsoft Paint. If that's your vision of the "future", more power to ya (I guess).

@@the_locke_ not really

Teslas look like bubble cars. The Cybertruck looks like my dishwasher.

@@ed8018 Yep, they basically stole the design from the VW Beetle and tried to call it "futuristic". I sincerely hope your dishwasher isn't that ugly... haha

You are showing your ignorance of the cheap fuel costs of EVs and cheap maintenance. and also ignoring the numerous advantages of an EV over a fossil fuel vehicle.

Ya the average price is a new car in the US is like $47K. This R2 is priced for the mass market. $45K is a lot of money. But I'll be snapping one up as soon as it's available.

Bee-Ewe-Tea-Foal Headlights!

Give it time you will love it

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Lets be honest here. The automotive industry had perfected the driving experience with its analog interface over a century and Tesla came along and ruined it. Screen in the middle. Nothing for speedo. Look at everything to change settings. It's distracting and it's evident just by how bad Tesla drivers are. You should know. Watch a Tesla driver parallel park. Genuinely the most embarrassing thing. Hopefully FSD patches that too, so they no longer have to put their skills on display and take 5 minutes to park in a 220 inch space...

@@anhh599 "Lets be honest here." You should try that instead of posting garbage.

Honestly I think my Tesla screen has been great. It's responsive and clean. But the Rivian UI looks better. I'm looking forward to using it when it comes out.

Also a tesla owner. The interiors are cheap AF looking.

@@cypvh74 So why buying one ?