Now that's a cool Hogga!!

The issue wasn’t him taking pictures. He was on the service road; Those service roads are for railroad personnel only.

What RR did you work for ?

@@rc391995 I worked for CP Rail then we were short lined and then called Ottawa Valley railway. I worked my last 14 yrs with them. I loved that job right to my very last shift. We had some nice long curves where you could see your whole train, I’d look back and think wow, I’m in control of this long train, it was a good feeling.

What railroad was it you worked for ?

Two steps back will be a farmer's private property.

@@justinhoyt3036 OR a public Right-of-way. A plat map is your best friend.

Two steps back from a grade crossing along the public road that crosses thecteavk is public property.

@harveywachtel1091 watch the beginning again. They weren't at the crossing.

@@justinhoyt3036 It doesn't matter where he was as long as he left when asked. AS I SAID, ask where the property line is and move over there. A plat map in your best friend. They're available as real estate or hunting maps on your phone.

I got a question what are the rules about letting non RR employees / foamers on the locomotive for a ride . You do that stuff on the NS and get caught they will put you on vacation permanently .

He was on the service road. He was trespassing. And he knew he was too because he’s done this 50,000 times. He gets *ZERO* sympathy from me and nobody else should feel sorry for him either. He’s scapegoating the UP workers when they were in the right and he was in the wrong. Fuck this guy

@@rc391995 with in board cameras and outboard cameras all the fun has stopped. The RR officials can access any camera from a laptop remotely. This ended the fun. Plus a few foamers have come up on engines and have injured themselves suing the RR. Just be cool and take your photos off of the right of way.

I would have thought its instant dismissal on every railroad company.@@rc391995

@@rc391995 with inboard and outboard cameras everything is recorded and lasts for 15 days. A few railfans over time had injuries and sued the RRs.. post 911 also curtailed rides. The only way would be for an individual to write the PR Department of a RR and ask for permission. If accepted then there is a mountain of paperwork to sign to eliminate any liability. Good luck.

What does "I'd sack them # mean ?

What does id sack them mean. ?

@@rc391995 "Sack" is an English term for "fired," as in terminate their employment

Are you a conductor engineer or a rat head ?

Oh so your not the conductor then ?

Where is the proof the crew called anybody Foamers ? It's MOW and a high rail waiting there turn for track time. Nothing went on here other than he was standing on RR property . It was nothing left for the guys to do. If the foamers got a leg cut off from dragging equipment then what. Hell you guys try anything walking up in tunnels out across bridges where there is no place for them to go. And that is why they use signs stating no trespassing. I've seen it mire than once for myself. Oh absolutely lets see how far we can wander off out there to see if we can beat the train or just drive around the gate you can maker it. Happens everyday !

The main reason this happened is if an accident happened, you had a camera to take a picture and prove in court the railroad was at fault. Come on everyone, think about it. Its simple why this happened!

​@@rc391995 what is "foamers" please?

There is cameras recording things Also like was you standing in the track did the engineer blow his horn . that comes in very useful determining who's to blame now these days

​​@@davidkeeling4419Trains *always* have the right of way. Tfym "railroad's fault" ??? It will always be the fault of the idiot on the tracks. Edit: general statement

@Local6News, It's not hard to figure out what is railroad property.

@@user-fc5co3eb2s*Maybe, maybe not. Why play the guessing game or “he said, she said” when you can have the property lines on your phone with GPS enabled that shows AND records your exact location? That is what’s called playing it smart and is a 100% unbeatable defense if some a-hole cop or RR employee makes trespassing allegations.*

@@Local6News Play it smart and do not trespass. Simple.

@@user-fc5co3eb2s *Yes, duh. That's why it's beneficial to have a phone app that shows property lines so you can play it smart and DO NOT TRESPASS without having to guess. Good Lord!*

@@Local6News Railroad property is clearly marked. The lord has nothing to do with this. Common sense goes a long way.

Or how others think it's ok to be in others empty spaces.

I didn't visualize anything wrong or illegal. Carry on buddy and remember be safe and have fun. Probably just pissed off at the company employees messing with you.

Not anymore they don't use radios that much if they see you in a car at a railroad crossing train Cruise are so damn stupid they'll still call you in that's how stupid railroaders are

True, but I would think that a farmer would be much easier to get along with!

He was on the maintenance road. He can’t be there

He's probably doing something he shouldn't be doing

Don't mess around with the railroad police.

You mean pigs that seem to think they know everything when you're off their precious property they still come around and will harass you that's how much of a prick they are you're never safe around the Communist pecific@@itjustlookslikethis

Must have thought he was shawn b he's a huge fan of the union pacific

He is filming from rr property. So it's trespassing.

They were standing on the service road for those tracks, which is UP property and restricted to railroad personnel only. They were 110% trespassing

Absolutely ! And wonder why they got run off. We wasn't doing nothing just filming a train while they trespasses totally oblivious to anything dragging or bein pelt by loose coal hanging over the edge of the car as it's running 50 mph or however fast he was running . no proof of an encounter they don't intentionally stop after getting by a signal then it gets to the point you have to run restricted speed to the next signal. That's another PIA .

@@rc391995 Love this sarcasm 🤣 Yeah they should’ve not gone on the service road if they didn’t want this to happen. They’re not mad because they legitimately thought they did nothing wrong, they’re mad because they got caught trespassing. Don’t push your luck kids

@@nathanielcoleman5694 Right, but the story about the train crew stopping to tell the dispatcher is obvious nonsense: they don't need to stop the train to use the radio.

Probably never happened

1. Either did not want to include the footage (or) 2. They ratted them out via radio, not head to head.

He was a "Company Man", and they must have been inside the fence line.

He was on the service road. Nobody except railroad personnel is allowed on those roads

Yes we are. The crews are. Management well now that's a different story

@@mikepriceup The guy that uploaded this video misunderstood: he was on the service road for those tracks, which is 100% y’all’s property, hence why they called for personnel and accused them of trespassing.

Them people wasnt anybody MOW and a high rail .if he'd stepped back 100 ft that would have been the end of it. They made such an issue of it and filmed it he had to leave. Which brings up another subject how come that didn't get filmed ?

@@mikepriceup You know what? I take that back. He knew he wasn’t supposed to be there and did it anyway just because he had never been caught before. And then when he finally got caught, instead of accepting he messed up, he played the victim and scapegoated the UP workers. He knew *EXACTLY* what he was getting into, and he did it anyway. And he knows what he’s doing by posting this video. Your luck will run out eventually guys, and this video is living proof of that.

Please explain what it is that gives you the impression they are grumpy. And just because it don't fit your lunacy don't count. A train stopped nobody go off and said anything to anybody nobody shouts at them a couple of maintenance of way people pull up they get accused of running him off but you see absolutely no indication of any such action first it was they stopped to run him off he was braking very hard before he got to him he got by the road crossing he clams he stopped at he got by a clear intermediate signal by half an engine length . you just don't stop with that much effort to rat on a kid. You have no earthly idea of lateral pressure placed upon the rail with something that heavy that's something you try to avoid at all cost . Their is risk involved to set one down like that there is a risk to the crew and risk to the foamer you have absolutely no idea . could be the track dept showed up to inspect the rail after such an aggressive stop. You know nothing about operating RR equipment you can quit pretending like you do . Drama Queens.

@@rc391995 HE said the crew called him in. Watch the video next time.

Oh so they called him via telephone then. They knew him no doubt . you have a cell phone in your grip it better be turned off . when the rat heads climb on board they know.. Get a clue yourself.

@@rc391995 called dispatch on the radio you do know crews can do that right? My knowledge of the situation is based on what the guy who shot the video said, it is all I've got to go on. If you can't handle it, take it up with the poster, not me.

I used to live near a line with only one road train both ways daily that was class 2 (25mph freight). There was some time that I had a work schedule that allowed me to photograph the trains regularly (Often with good power and good lighting). The 25mph made it easy for keeping up and shooting multiple locations. I knew the crews were starting to get sick of me when they started trailing toilet paper out the window when they would see me - my shots would end up with toilet paper down the entire side of the locomotive, LOL. But OTOH, I was around so much that I ended up being helpful a couple of times by offering a warm ride back up to the head of the train in frigid winter weather. IIRC, there were some other fans that used to put EVERYTHING on youtube, and there had been an incident where higher ups nitpicked all the videos until they found a fault to reprimand a crew over. I railfan because I love trains - growing up, my grandparents lived right next to a Conrail ROW, and I have been fascinated ever since. One of the reasons that I purposely don't put any of my pictures and videos online is so that I don't end up being the reason for someone getting in trouble. This is a hobby for me - but a career for the very people that I shoot.

UP does what's in the best interest of UP, if you don't like it, too bad.

also stay off railroad property.

Thing is they’re on a railroad access road so what they’re doing is illegal. Careful there flag shagger

And you also earn the right to be asked to get off the property. Just like you can't just walk in anywhere and deerhunt without permission . So what's the problem walk back 60 ft from the rail and go about your business you've complied ..Can't do that huh not close enough right ? I bet he don't own a zoom lens. Claiming to get runoff and no evidence of it says something here. If want to hear what exactly was said . he could have told him to go pound sand or jyst maybe he was asked to get off the ROW . What is it you foamers like to say ? Something about there goes the walk of shame.

At 5:30, they appear to be way down the trackside access road, which is almost certainly RR property.

At 5:30, they're on what appears to be the RR service road, far from any grade crossing. You don't need fancy apps to know that this is RR property.

The rest of the film .

At 5:30, they're way down the trackside access road.

That's exactly the purpose they are there ! Be the first to see and show the sole world what they have seen .

You never worked day in your life for the RR if you had you know better.

Don't know the reason for the hostile reply. I was a conductor for Southern Pacific. I saw people filming and taking pictures all the time. Again if these people were at the side of railroad crossings or in other areas not blocking vehicle tracking or blocking rail operations then I do not see the reason for the issue. Now granted, I worked for SP from 1994 until 1996 when I became injured and could no longer work for the railroad and rules may have changed, but based on past experience, I stand by my opinion.. @@rc391995

Sherman hill can be railfanned by drone. Drones are great for getting access to otherwise off limits areas

Yep being at a gated crossing and within 25 foot of the rail your trespassing. The RR maintains the crossing .

Yep pissed off disgruntled employees . so just how can you tell that ?

Usually the 'finger' or the glare or the "Ain't you got anything better to do!!" comments. And, as a former employee, I do know quite a few of them.@@rc391995

That particular road was built by and for the railroad for various purpose emergencies, picking up crews etc

It's 30 feet from center of the tracks.

I would be on a public easement so they can’t get you

That’s horseshit 😂

They hire every day why don't you go give it a try ?

And, you know, the radio works while the train is moving...

The first shot is filmed by a public grade crossing. But at 5:30, they're clearly on the RR service road, far from any crossing.

5:30 looks very much like RR property.

What's a ballast??

@@GamingWithJazz ballast are the rocks along the railroad

At 5:30, they're nowhere near a crossing and almost certainly on RR property.

@@beeble2003 Yeah, I saw that

No.

I don't suggest messing with railroad police, my friend, if you value your health.

That’s not why they reported them. They reported them because they were blocking a service road that UP owns just because they wanted to get better shots. In other words, they were trespassing just to have better shots of the trains. I’d rather have a slightly shitty photo/video than risk being arrested. If they were too close to either the tracks or some equipment, they probably would’ve just blown their horn at them or get out themselves and tell them to stand farther back.

No. If you are on that service road PERIOD you are trespassing. Those roads are for railroad personnel and emergency vehicles only.

Well explain the difference then ?

Bullchit never worked a day on the RR in your life. Want to know how I'd do ? You don't have a clue where the ROW is.

They're at a public crossing at the start of the video. At 5:30, they're way down the trackside access road.

Yep trespassing all the way.

At 5:30, they appear to be on the RR service road. If so, that's RR property.

That's simply a car reader. It aligns with a plastic piece on each side of the car. Gives info of the whereabouts and destination of each car. He wouldn't have stopped to radio dispatch . what would be the point in stopping. I'd say he was likely asked to stop to be realigned . or PTC got him or a fault got him. You all make to much Drama out of things you think you know about but intact you all are totally clueless. Stopped to report him. How ridiculous ! Pfft . foamers .

AM I GONNA HAVE TO GO TO EVERY FUCKING COMMENT TO SAY THIS????? THEY WERE ON THE SERVICE ROAD, WHICH IS RESTRICTED TO RAILROAD PERSONNEL ONLY!!!!

@@nathanielcoleman5694no, you can butt out of the conversation. Unless you were physically present, you can’t tell if they were on the service road or not. Even if they WERE on the service road, they were safely away from the tracks, so quit being an ass…

I can tell he was standing in ballast . people are not as stupid as you'd like to make it look.

@@littleprincess4417 It doesn’t matter how far back you are from the tracks: if you are on railroad property, railroad personnel are legally allowed to press charges against you for trespassing. These people are lucky they didn’t tell management to call the police. And you can clearly see at the beginning of the video that they were on a service road for those tracks. UP owns that, so they have a legal right to cry trespassing.

Did you hop on and he take you for a ride

No I think the crew called me in or something@@rc391995

Problem is that they were on the railroad service road and then moved up to the road crossing after the trucks arrived.

At 5:30 they look very much like they're on RR property.

UP web site says stay back 25ft when viewing trains.

He was on the track service road. He was trespassing. And he knows he’s not allowed there. He’s just triggered he got caught and is trying to get sympathy from others so it doesn’t hurt his ego. Fuck this guy. He knew he did something illegal and chose to take the risk, and he got caught

No, *but they do own that service road he was standing on in the beginning.* In fact, I just realized he’s only doing this because he’s triggered he got caught trespassing and couldn’t baby his way out of it. So throwing UP’s workers under the bus was his way of crying to us all. NO SYMPATHY whatsoever from me. He knew he was trespassing. I LOATHE people that are in the wrong and deliberately pretend they’re not.

Sure they do how do you think they get over the crossing if they don't own it. 25 ft back from the outside rail

Its most of the time 25 ft outside the further rail. Sometimes more if needed if a train passes through a rail yard on either side you measure out 25 ft on both sides of rail farther away. If its two tracks running north and south you measure out 25 foot from the eastern most rail and also the farthest western mist rail . its at least that in some cases it's more.