We had a setback

We had a setback - again

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7 ай бұрын

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@marchofdissonance 7 ай бұрын

You're an Australian hero. And that judge is a damn psycho, imagine him being the judge at Nuremberg, he'd have let them go.

@rileyernst9086 7 ай бұрын

At Nuremburg he'd have been on trial.

@liamrogers2152 7 ай бұрын

Thank you David. I'm sorry you're having to go through all this shit! you are a true HERO thank you!

@JordanHassall 7 ай бұрын

He said not to be sorry. They are on track!

@alicianah8352 7 ай бұрын

I would 2nd that. Additionally authorities have to be held accountable for their actions otherwise authority becomes corrupt. Now media in collusion with the governments it is down to the individual to ask uncomfortable questions whilst risking everything. This is testament to the selfless courage of David McBride brought about by an unshakeable knowledge between right and wrong. Such people are deserving of the highest admiration and gratitude. I in uk and continue to follow David McBrides case... To David personally: Continue to hold your fist forever high sir!

@delmasmith1672 7 ай бұрын

I’m appalled and disgusted that our country has allowed whistleblowers on anything and every thing to be treated worse than the perpetrators. I’m so sorry you and yours are being dragged the mud like this. I just wish we had politicians who had consciouses.

@wjohnsaunders 7 ай бұрын

I think anybody thinking of joining the armed services should deliberate long and hard about what this ruling could mean for them. You will be forced into helping cover up the next lot of war crimes. I guess we now know why Australia has a Kangaroo on its coat of arms, its the symbol of how our courts work.

@alicianah8352 7 ай бұрын

Verified by the 116,000 us military veterans that committed suicide over last twenty years.

@terryingram6755 7 ай бұрын

Well done David. Look after yourself.

@aarondavidson6409 7 ай бұрын

"Unquestionable following of orders".... I'm not the brightest bulb in the shed but that sounds like a recipe for disaster. Hope the fancy pants people deciding your fate have their heads screwed on. Stand tall brother. This is fuggin absurd.

@Foxhound1Nine 7 ай бұрын

The thing is we were told that we could disobey an unlawful command.

@NathanCroucher 7 ай бұрын

it is crazy, that judge is a crooked coward.

@moniquedelaney7958 7 ай бұрын

I fear Australian law has not heard from Nüremberg. Sad for the rest of us as well .

@taranullius9221 7 ай бұрын

Well, the judges didn't accept the "this is what I thought was my duty" defence there either mate.

@heatherhall3452 7 ай бұрын

Probably because they don’t actually follow the Law, they follow Masonic legalese

@DrCoomer_1 7 ай бұрын

I hate my leaders for failing to do the right thing for you. I can't so anything to help and the fact only makes me feel worse for you. You will always be remembered with deep respect and as a man with true honor.

@josh32487 7 ай бұрын

Thank you David, As others have said you are a true Australian hero. Thank you for doing your best to return Australia back to a moral course.

@tobywilson3515 7 ай бұрын

I was under the impression from my time in the cadets years back that a soldiers duty included * provisions for the refusal of illegal orders, which would mean that when presented with evidence of such events there is a duty to act?

@tobywilson3515 7 ай бұрын

army.adfcareers.gov.au/joining-and-training/can-I-join/behaviour-and-appearance only bound to follow legal orders?

@belinda_curtis 7 ай бұрын

They basically said it is your duty to keep secrets

@BenMitro 7 ай бұрын

What a sellout - if not for Australia, then what are our soldiers and public servants being asked to do essentially by deceit?

@mrlorikeetmp3 7 ай бұрын

I dont think any documentary / news story has made me as sad as i was when i watched the four corners episode. I was in tears. You are a true Aussie hero. I hope this works out for you. ❤

@akaYOOOOO 7 ай бұрын

The disgusting thing is it appears the government sincerely believe there is one set of laws for the people, and an entirely different standard for them. If the tables were turned and it was Australian civilians being killed by an invading force, no one would accept "they were following orders" as an acceptable excuse - because it will never be an acceptable excuse under any circumstances.

@aussiegirl3473 3 ай бұрын

Except they have written it into their law that if there are foreign troops brought into 'help' they will NOT be held accountable for injury or death of civilians.. i forget what the law is but it's military Lunacy!!!

@jaywalks9918 7 ай бұрын

It's like explaining simple morality to a small child, except the small child runs the government and military.

@andrewthalerscrappy437 7 ай бұрын

Sadly the children are running the GovCo and our military. Remember not long back Chrithtopher Pyne was defence minister… when he want on his knees in the *prayer room* of parliament

@OPIXdotWORLD 7 ай бұрын

the system is not broken...it was designed to work this way...and generations have allowed it to continue,,,shame on us for doing the same

@Peta8888 7 ай бұрын

Grateful for your honesty and courage David. Sadly Australia is heading, and already in, a sad state of affairs. We kneel to powers who are not on the side of humanity.

@ScottMurrayBestFamilyCars 7 ай бұрын

In the immortal words of Zack de la Rocha, "Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me." You're Australian of the Century in my view, DMcB.

@twinrotors 7 ай бұрын

Win or lose, hold your head high! You did your duty David.

@MatthewSetter 7 ай бұрын

Thanks, David! All the best in your continuing fight for justice.

@carolineramage7480 7 ай бұрын

Thank you David. I could listen to you speak all day. So grounded, uncomplicated and dignified. I believe in your long game strategy. God speed. As for living in Canberra - that's cruel and unusual punishment! Lol. They knew they couldn’t get away with throwing away the key. Too much good publicity for you in that move.

@fellowcitizen 7 ай бұрын

So if, for instance, Mike Pompeo assumes command of the ADF and commands that every soldier commits sexual assault on every Australian schoolchild and then mvrder Julian Assange then that is an OBLIGATION for those Australian public servants?

@wendy55 7 ай бұрын

Thank you, David! Thank you. Totally inadequate. But, thank you! ❤

@ChantalsBackPain 7 ай бұрын

Might pay to write to king Charles himself and get his opinion on whistleblowers. Maybe this king has some power to intervene. 😊

@LastNameInTown 7 ай бұрын

David, that was so well said. That was inspiring to me. If I may, i want to share something I never talk about that your words about Duty made me think on.. I lost a dear friend in Afghanistan, Lance Corporal Leon Smith. He was a Combat Medic for the NZ SAS. His senior officer, on a night op, put him on point. He was shot in the head by a 14yr old kid who has lost his Dad the day before to a stray. In your experience in the military, where should a combat medic be in a line of soldiers? On point? Leon would never say no to an order. Except when he did to save another soldier that was his bro. He ran down an alley into direct fire, jumped a wall and somehow carried his mate back to his squad and then resuscitated him and for that he earned the New Zealand Gallantry Decoration and Charles Upham Bravery Award, yet it was following his "allegedly" corrupt and rotten to the core commanding officers orders that cost him his life. You know any rotten CO's mate? What you are doing is not just important for Aussies. It is for all soldiers and all citizens in the Commonwealth. I am sorry that puts more weight on you. I wish i could take some of the weight off your shoulders. Thank you for fighting so hard David, I can't imagine how you feel I just pray you keep finding that amazing strength you have. Ko tahi te Aroha Tuakana. ♥ #DAVIDMCBRIDE #ANZACHERO

@andrewthalerscrappy437 7 ай бұрын

Stand tall mate. This fight is not over.

@0mnis14sh 7 ай бұрын

Great to see you keeping the fight and spirits up

@NedKelly1967 7 ай бұрын

Disgusting…. Judge should be on trial with the rest of them….. we’re coming for you all….. no place to hide and it’s falling apart fast so RUN……

@SirPhilby101 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for explaining David. This is incredibly important thanks for fighting the good fight.

@a9503128 7 ай бұрын

Keep fighting Sir, you are a national hero and we all know the game is to cover up and use enormous amounts of government funds and resources to grind the truth down. Happy Holidays

@zappy7393 7 ай бұрын

This has truly diminished the honour and integrity of the ADF and our legal system. I hope more young Australians see this and recognise that if they join the ADF, they are considered a tool of the Government, used to follow orders.

@krystleklearcentral 7 ай бұрын

I have only read one high court judgment, and that is when my employer sued my colleagues (the employer sued the employees) and me; the judges seemed quite reasonable in that decision. Hopefully, they will hear your case and apply the same reasonableness.

@shadyhazza 7 ай бұрын

Thankyou for your service!

@mnkybndit 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your service, David. You did the right thing.

@sagittariusa2201 7 ай бұрын

We love you mate.

@LokiBeckonswow 7 ай бұрын

everyone is fighting their own rebellion, every step along the way is one step closer, that has been true for assange, for snowden, for manning etc, and every other person who does their best to stand against corrupt state actions - dave's is a massive part of this fight, and it is because of people like dave that we will be lucky enough to eventually know victory

@darthex0 7 ай бұрын

That's the right line. The rules at the least, need to be properly expressed. Authority demanded has always been corrupt.

@michaelnoyes4817 7 ай бұрын

I used to think we lived in a fair and honest country, You Are A Hero in my eye's, I hope you and your family can have a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year mate

@heatherhall3452 7 ай бұрын

Yes we’ve ALL been deceived massively

@alicianah8352 7 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9-cZa2kubqzhqc.html@@heatherhall3452

@alicianah8352 7 ай бұрын

@@heatherhall3452Finally got through youtube censoring. Above is a link fully exposing a worldwide deception.

@NickTaylorRickPowers 7 ай бұрын

Are they literally arguing you shouldn't have told because we didn't allow you to?

@krystleklearcentral 7 ай бұрын

I'll admit that most of my knowledge of military law is from American TV and Film, but I know that Australian judges can use American law as a reference point when deciding a case. But isn't there something, at least in American Military law about not following illegal orders. EG: The CO tells the soldier to kill the civilian, the soldier is allowed to refuse as the order is illegal. If the Australian judge is saying all orders must be followed, then they are saying even illegal orders. Seems very appealable, especially if we have something similar to my example on the books (not to mention all the UN conventions we have signed about human rights, Nueremberg etc).

@NeutralObserver-uz8dq 7 ай бұрын

You're right as far as I can tell (about the principle, not so much American law being applied in Australia). In the appeal judgment it's said "The notion that a soldier's “duty” could nonetheless permit acts, as the argument was openly put, in breach of a lawful order where the source of the authority to act in that way is said to come only from the terms of the oath is, in my respectful opinion, an ambitious one and certainly not one as to which it appears Mossop J's ruling is likely to be found to entail error." As you can see here, the findings presuppose a lawful order. Any example of an order that is clearly unlawful, such as those associated with the Nüremberg defence, would not be lawful orders so there would be no need to appeal to any higher principle. I did a brief search of the news relating to the history of this matter and it appears that at some early point it was accepted by the parties that the orders were lawful. This meant that later on the only argument that could be put was that there was an even higher duty, one derived from the oath to the sovereign, that permits soldiers to disobey lawful orders. That was obviously going to be a difficult argument to make. If you can disobey a lawful order on the grounds that you think it would be against the "public interest" it's difficult to imagine what lawful orders you would have a clear duty to obey. Unfortunately the public discussion of the rulings seems to omit the words "lawful" from any mention of order or orders. But there was never any dispute that unlawful orders can and must be disobeyed. This judgment in no way impacted that. The discussions on KZfaq and Twitter seem not to mention this, leading to a misunderstanding that is causing very understandable outrage. You can find the judgments online if you want to look in more detail and confirm the facts.

@krystleklearcentral 7 ай бұрын

@@NeutralObserver-uz8dq thanks for the detailed response. With the US law thing, I am sure we have some mechanism to allow for judges to cite American cases (as well as British, and perhaps other nations) in common law cases, especially when there is no Australian precedent or legislation on the particulars. It does not carry the same weight as precedent, but it can be used to inform an opinion.

@Rockers202 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for your honourable service, Mr McBride.

@AntiCoruptionCentral 7 ай бұрын

ALL wars are bankers wars.

@JordanHassall 7 ай бұрын

"Just follow orders". What a joke

@bencubus1814 7 ай бұрын

And this is why I don't believe in Australia, or trust any component of the public services. I will only pledge allegiance to he that encourages and protects my freedom. So I pledge allegiance to nobody.

@deejay8ch 7 ай бұрын

A person's 'duty' is to do the right thing. It's a moral obligation as a human being. Therefore, in this sense, the judge got the definition of 'duty' wrong. It's not a justice system, it's a misjustice sideshow. Corruption hates the 'antiseptic' of sunlight, hence the cloak of darkness and mystery. This is a win in fifth gen warfare against the masses. All the best for the appeal.

@Daniel-cc6oy 7 ай бұрын

David I cannot thankyou enough mate, I truely believe in you, Ive never really had someone I look up to as much as you, you are an inspiration to us all, and I'm not sure if it's the right thing but I hope Australia becomes a republic we are a country that I feel can make its own decisions. Thankyou David Australia owes you a great debt and I know you will keep fighting so you are a hero to me. Thankyou

@chimpr32gtr 7 ай бұрын

Never give in never give up the truth will set us all free thank you

@wildcard3233 7 ай бұрын

Great video ❤ Would love to meet you down in Melbourne for a book signing ! I bought 2 of your books and would proudly shake your hand 🤙

@Reaper4367 7 ай бұрын

Regardless of what they said about obeying orders... those of us that have served our nation KNOW what we were instructed at basic training. Thank you Maj McBride, you are a true Champion of this nation. Personally, i would like to know where the 'Parliament of the Commonwealth of Australia' is in all of this, afte rall, THAT is the one true 'Government' of this nation. The Governor General, BY LAW, is the the 'Commander in Chief' of our Defence Forces, not the 'prime minister', as per: Ch12, Chapter II, ss, 61:...'The Executive power of the Commonwealth is vested in the Queen (now King) and is exercisable by the Governor General as the Queens (now King's) representative, and extnds to the execution and maintenance of this Constitution, and of the Laws of the COmmonwealth' and Ch12, Chapter II, 68: 'The Command in Chief of the Naval and military forces of the Commonwealth is vested in the Governor General as the Queens (now King's) representative. You mob can work out the rest for yourselves. We are being screwed over. Start reading the Constitution people. KNOW your Laws, rights and privileges. As the popo say 'ignorance of the law is no defence', well that works both ways. Use it!

@AnonyMummy 7 ай бұрын

You were justified. Worst precedent ever to scapegoat the hero.

@aussiegirl3473 3 ай бұрын

Nothing new.. look who is sitting in Belmarsh Prison for the past 5 yrs or so now.. and Martin Bryant wasn't guilty but is the scapegoat as was Lee Harvey Oswald and so many others who were used as patsies.. same old playbook.. you have to keep the public dumbed down and ignorant.. you've heard the saying being treated like mushrooms well that's how it is for we the ppl.. at least David is still free (for now 🙏) and able to speak somewhat.. unlike Edward Snowden who also is better off than many others who pulled the pin on the real guilty parties (some seen, most in the shadows) and not forever silenced.. 🙏

@robmcd 7 ай бұрын

Mark my words: Those white glasses will be the new Guy Fawkes mask.

@johnlenardburnett5713 7 ай бұрын

Yes you are guilty of doing the right thing. But how many of us are willing to stand up and say "I also am Spartacus"

@user-mz6ql5vm9i 7 ай бұрын

ben roberts smith said THIS is SPATA!!! not am spartacus. fool. gud movie 300

@BromellFilmCorp 7 ай бұрын

If it was for the King of England, this ruling wouldn't be the result. This is 100% for the United States who aren't our Monarchys.

@aussiegirl3473 3 ай бұрын

So much to learn.. so much still to be revealed regarding ALL that.. none is what you think.. We are incorporated as Australia Inc.. NOT The Commonwealth of Australia as we should be.. we are supposedly 'under' the Queen of Au (like What Queen of Au) isn't is supposed to be (was) Queen Elizabeth II ? hmmm 🤔 Aren't we 'supposed' to be a 'Common+wealth' (that which is the Wealth Common to) of Australia??!! Not Australia Inc Registered on ASIC & the US Stock Exchange? In light of that.. what is Charles III jurisdiction over Au and who 'really' runs the place? The Reason WHY the ruling is as such is bcz of the above and who 'OWNS' Au and WHO 'selected' Au's TOP DOGS!! Literal DOGS!! & Who are the puppet masters Directing the Show??!! Answer those Q's you will find the answers for why very rarely is 'true justice found in our courts and legal system as a whole...

@thebobbit5895 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your service David 👍👍✝

@terrybrown9223 7 ай бұрын

Just follow orders only sounds a bit Nurenbergish to me :/

@FoxSt3v3 3 ай бұрын

thank you David

@m136dalie 7 ай бұрын

Good luck David

@stevetuckey 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for fighting for what is right David

@smallworld707 7 ай бұрын

This man is ahead of his time. Heroes never die!

@johnwade5272 7 ай бұрын

Shine on sunshine 😮😊

@aperian6954 7 ай бұрын

ADF (army) states it tries to incorporate the Auftragstaktik (mission control) from my understanding; This ideology that the Aus Army (on its website) states to adopt should abolish the top-down argument?

@nichm7318 7 ай бұрын

They won't need to desribe a person at all whence the doctrine comes. Just who follows shall commit against those that won't.

@user-mz6ql5vm9i 7 ай бұрын

Yeaj Dav, we need to no wat happened in vietnam. did u read any ufo files? come vist us in Malaney, your a legend!

@NathanCroucher 7 ай бұрын

george pell..... now bear with me lol. i followed his case and he got screwed big time, the judges didnt want a bar of it and kept hand balling it up till it got the high court. This is where david needs to go. Following orders no matter what is cooky crazy puffs. Glad your back....

@josephradley3160 7 ай бұрын

Is it possible to send what you have to The Hague?

@m136dalie 7 ай бұрын

There's some inconsistency with the ruling that I dont understand. If a soldier's responsibility is to follow orders first and uphold the rule of law second, what happens if the orders are illegal? For example if a superior orders a soldier to murder a fellow Australian soldier, and said soldier refuses to follow orders, could he really be held accountable for not performing an illegal & reprehensible act?

@sueellerman7984 6 ай бұрын

"...These whistleblowers bring light to the dark places, they are making our country a better place to be, holding power to account with truth and transparency, but they pay a high price for their integrity..." From the song Whistleblowers by Sue Ellerman. 2020

@aussieandy67 5 ай бұрын

Probs community work as well usual follows this

@mrz6921 2 ай бұрын

a hero

@Pera1315 7 ай бұрын

don't join the army until they change the laws and see how quickly they will change it.... I personally will not let my kids join the army. every government will use army illegally, no matter how tight the laws are.

@theMolisticView 7 ай бұрын

Who is the Crown? I in NSW work for them.

@aussieandy67 5 ай бұрын

You serve to defend your country and its citizens as well

@moniquedelaney7958 7 ай бұрын

Yes to a lot of what you said , David , but what about this mood music in the background ? Strange , to say the least

@stevenslavicek9711 7 ай бұрын

You remind me of Von Paul’s who saw the futility of War. And kill his remaining troops for a lie. God bless.

@Uncle_Houndy 7 ай бұрын

Mate, if you cop an ICO just take it - it's a pretty good deal considering how many people have it in for you. It's usually 500-2000 hours work in the community (I did 500 hours of groundskeeping at a local church for mine), signing on every day at the local PO and obviously not racking up any further charges while the ICO is in progress. Also you'll have travel restrictions applied, most likely you'll have to stay in your home state and probably not even go interstate. Pretty easy for someone like you who is otherwise a law abiding citizen. Best of luck, you're such a quality human that has chosen to be on the right side of history despite the obvious personal cost. We need more like you !!

@user-mz6ql5vm9i 7 ай бұрын

cop the community servive mate, i got some and never had to show up.