We Have NEVER Seen This Machine Before! | Kitchen & Walker Horizontal Facing Borer

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Cutting Edge Engineering Australia

Cutting Edge Engineering Australia

Жыл бұрын

We have a new to us machine for the workshop and we have never seen one of these before! It is a 1950s-1960s era Kitchen and Walker Type P1 Horizontal Facing Borer machine. We didn’t get any manuals with it and can’t find any information online about it! In this video we are doing a tour & test of this facing borer and share what it is, how it works and what we will be using it for in our workshop. Plus we do some test boring on a chunk of material to see what it can do! This machine is a real gem we are happy we got our hands on it and if you have seen one of these machines before we would love to hear from you!
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@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
What did you think of our new to us machine? Very happy we got our hands on it & can't wait to put it to work! 😎👍 Follow us online here 👇🤳 TikTok: vt.tiktok.com/ZSdax3gNQ/ Instagram: instagram.com/cutting_edge_engineering Facebook: facebook.com/cuttingedgeengineeringaustralia/ Official CEE Merch shop: www.ceeshop.com.au
@OB1canblowme
@OB1canblowme Жыл бұрын
Seeing as you're going to modify the machine, I would suggest the first thing to be to replace the old limit switches for the faceplate. You never know when those feel like failing and new ones is a cheap life insurance
@importanttingwei7747
@importanttingwei7747 Жыл бұрын
Kurtis get a DMG MORI CNC that does line,boring, milling and turning all in one setup I'm sure there're happy to help
@mars6433
@mars6433 Жыл бұрын
@9:15 Before you turn it on, I'd call in the "Safety Inspector" and maybe give him a bribe.
@clydebalcom3679
@clydebalcom3679 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to need the banana ruler? Maybe tape one to the side of the table 🤔 😏?
@brettwebb86
@brettwebb86 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a machinist but regarding the manual handle that nearly took out your knee could you put a gentle spring with two washers that would eject the handle when not in use? A spring that not to strong to be annoying while holding in and spinning but enough to eject the handle.
@ukoldgit
@ukoldgit Жыл бұрын
As a now 71 year old ex Toolmaker from the UK I can only say you Sir are an exceptionally lucky boy, I worked one of these in the early 1960s, it is such a solid machine you will never be able to replicate it, so if it needs some restoration do the work, you will not be sorry.
@paulstanding7267
@paulstanding7267 Жыл бұрын
Hi I hope the following information help you with the machine. It was made by A kitchen & D walker ltd of hexagon works peloton lane Halifax Yorkshire. The company was established in 1961 and this is one of the first machines they made year 1961. John brown & co sold the Halifax machine tools business to James.H. Vickery 1980s. It is a fantastic machine. Other information regarding this machine can be found at. Grace,s Guide To British Industrial History there is a file on it. Hope this helps you take care.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing 👍
@miles2378
@miles2378 Жыл бұрын
​@@CuttingEdgeEngineering are you a jobshop or are you preserving these machines for museums?
@rnk482
@rnk482 9 ай бұрын
LOL I'm only 20 seconds in, from the US, and my first thought was why is he going to talk to the passenger. It hit me right away. Bloody Ausi's drivin on the wrong side of the road.😅 I'm a welder/ fabricator and this channel gets more of my time than my girlfriend does. Love what you do here. You really know your shit.
@matthoward923
@matthoward923 Жыл бұрын
Kurtis as a customer you just made my day. You stuck around and let the truck driver unload after hours. You didn’t goof around unloading. Way cool dude
@michaelfrancis7072
@michaelfrancis7072 Жыл бұрын
As a 70 year old from the UK, I can well remember using a K&W Radial Drill during the manufacture of diesel engines for UK trains. These drills were bulletproof, and I reckon you have a great machine there. Have a great weekend, and thanks Homey for giving it your seal of approval.
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev Жыл бұрын
Which manufacturer did you work for sir?
@chrisfairbrother9197
@chrisfairbrother9197 Жыл бұрын
We had a K&W radial drill as well for about 20 years drilling deep waterways (40”) in injection mould tools. As you said, bulletproof.
@TristanKent
@TristanKent Жыл бұрын
We still have one in our workshop ☺️ (Scotland)
@ukoldgit
@ukoldgit Жыл бұрын
@@Gorbyrev The one that had the K&W was a Company called Deep Sea Seals, they made high pressure shaft seals for submarines, that was the first time I had to sgn the Oficial Secrets Act :) :)
@Gorbyrev
@Gorbyrev Жыл бұрын
@@ukoldgit Fantastic. Sound similar to McTaggart Scott, our local defence engineering firm in Midlothian.
@allenbrown7820
@allenbrown7820 Жыл бұрын
That is a cool machine!The look on Kurtis’ face when talking about the handle flying across the shop “Ask me how I know” ! Lol 😆 Have a Good Day and Be Safe!
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
It was trying to help find the pieces of the centre finder 🤣
@williampankratz600
@williampankratz600 Жыл бұрын
Don't you mean "DONT ASK ME HOW I KNOW "
@henkoosterhof5947
@henkoosterhof5947 Жыл бұрын
Like the tool that opens/closes the 3/4 jaw clamps on a lathe?
@Timbo5553
@Timbo5553 Жыл бұрын
That handle could of been used for a vice and been hammered on by the looks of it looks very similar to was I use and do but ye same concept as a drill chuck drift been drilled into my head as an apprentice never leave them in there
@lopezlopez7132
@lopezlopez7132 Жыл бұрын
@@Timbo5553 Can you repeat all this in English?
@uszy1987
@uszy1987 Ай бұрын
I've never welded, and I don't know much about lathes either... but I like watching these videos
@denniss5512
@denniss5512 Жыл бұрын
You are really assembling a state of the art 1950's machine shop there! Nothing more satisfying than a good manual machine job. Any tech school grad can run a CNC, Takes a real machinist to do all the long hand math and setups.
@JanBinnendijk
@JanBinnendijk Ай бұрын
Any Tech school Grad maybe can PROGRAM a CNC.. if you don't know anything about machining.. it is like giving a computer to a Monkey..Running a CNC requires the same skill as running a manual machine + programming the darn thing..
@charlesdahmital8095
@charlesdahmital8095 Жыл бұрын
I love how this starts. The last time I had some equipment delivered to my home shop (in a standard neighborhood) it arrived at about 2 o'clock in the morning and took an hour to unload with the diesel rig running the whole time. Neighbors were thrilled.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@BlindBatG34
@BlindBatG34 Жыл бұрын
Just proves you got the wrong neighbors. I would have looked out the window and exclaimed, ‘looks like Charles is getting a new toy’, thrown on some clothes and ran outside to check it out.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering , He he he!
@markfryer9880
@markfryer9880 Жыл бұрын
@@BlindBatG34 You sound like the exception to the rule. A lot of neighbours just don't get along or even know their names.
@RubenKelevra
@RubenKelevra Жыл бұрын
13:52 easy fix for this: Add a spring which pushes the handle off the head if you don't press it down. This way you will never leave it there, as it will just fall down :)
@stephensingletary8374
@stephensingletary8374 11 ай бұрын
Cracking idea this, and maybe weld a chain onto the handle and machine to keep it where it needs to be.
@69Misterpickles
@69Misterpickles 27 күн бұрын
@@stephensingletary8374 paint it bright pink as well.
@antbarredo
@antbarredo Жыл бұрын
I think all of us would take a class with professor Curtis. Can you imagine this man giving a lecture?
@misiek100020
@misiek100020 9 ай бұрын
what i love about old machines is sheer VOLUME of material used, its build like a tank
@almac2598
@almac2598 Жыл бұрын
Metric v imperial. Whilst serving in the RN, the two most popular measurement systems were the Firkin and the BSH, both had 2 units, ie, the Firkin came as Too Firkin big or too Firkin small. The BSH translates as British Standard Handful which came as a Slack BSH or a Tight BSH. Both applied to anything.
@paulg3336
@paulg3336 Жыл бұрын
Sub units of the Firkin were the Nadger (Gnat's Tadger)
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
I reckon I could be proficient in the Firkin measurement system pretty quickly 😂👍
@lwilton
@lwilton Жыл бұрын
Useless trivia: there really is a Firkin: a unit of liquid volume equal to half a kilderkin (about 11 gallons or 41 liters)
@davidandrew1078
@davidandrew1078 Жыл бұрын
How does that relate to, "Bee's Dicks"?
@manxman8008
@manxman8008 Жыл бұрын
And a gnats bollock for precision work.
@janneaalto3956
@janneaalto3956 Жыл бұрын
The run-out on the faceplate is making my worksafety senses tingle.
@donniceblakely1075
@donniceblakely1075 10 ай бұрын
I didn't realize you could broach key ways with a face milling machine , but you are a talented man. It's good to see people are still honest and human when they make mistakes. As always, Curtis, I really enjoy your videos. I think that my sons and i have watched all of them as a matter of fact!
@TomokosEnterprize
@TomokosEnterprize Жыл бұрын
Hi folks. I ran a machine much like this years ago. It was mostly used to machine the intakes and exhaust of 48 inch, 40 ton natural gas pipe line compressors. I believe the chuck/table was a round 55 inches with the bed in the floor. I don't remember who made it but it was capable of 1/2 thou accuracy. What a beast it was. What a blessing to have the written material along with it. Seeing this first setup I can see why you picked this one up. It is pennies spent compared to a new one. I wonder if they still make a piece like this. The table was fixed and the machine itself ran on rails in the pit below. Much like a vertical mill/drill they had. 50 years ago it was a tape machine that had an one inch perforated paper tape. Led's were in it's infancy. I sure looking forward to seeing it on a production type job. Thanks a bunch Kurtis. Take care eh.
@zafaradeel2107
@zafaradeel2107 Жыл бұрын
Good old machine.heavy-duty and free from cheap plastic parts.God bless you for saving this vintage masterpiece.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Right on!
@kenthesparky178
@kenthesparky178 Жыл бұрын
Forgot to mention in my earlier comment.When doing the mods to the machine ,you may want to think about installing a dc injection braking unit to the spindle,it seemed on the video to continue to turn after hitting the stop button,just a thought.👍
@brucepickess8097
@brucepickess8097 Жыл бұрын
Good idea, I thought it was strange that it didn't have a brake mechanism to stop the rotation quickly.
@tombeauchamp806
@tombeauchamp806 Жыл бұрын
@@brucepickess8097 you'd be surprised how many modern CNCs and stuff don't have a spindle brake after an estop..most of the ones I've run use a controlled short to the motor to stop it, once you e-stop the electric is cut and it drifts to a stop instead of actually stopping.
@richmorin424
@richmorin424 8 ай бұрын
I considered adding a braking mechanism to my SawStop table saw, but abandoned the idea when I realized that it might cause the blade's fastening nut to unscrew itself (with unpredictable but certainly bad results :-). So, be sure that any braking can't cause a similar problem for this machine.
@LukeA_55
@LukeA_55 Жыл бұрын
I love these videos showing older machines and they're history. These machines just give a sense of pride that you don't feel with newer machines. Like the hand drawn schematics and all that It'd be cool if they had a little history book with them saying what companies previously owned them and what kind of parts they made PS I think you guys are doing awesome things for the machining world by showing all this stuff and in my opinion you have made the best machining channel on KZfaq
@dickdaley9059
@dickdaley9059 3 ай бұрын
$4000 and a vision how to improve dodgy tasks without stressing a machine unnecessarily. Brilliant!
@glennschemitsch8341
@glennschemitsch8341 2 ай бұрын
4000 Australian dollars?
@chrishartley1210
@chrishartley1210 Жыл бұрын
My home town has produced many killing machines (aka lathes, borers etc) over the years but with its spinning and flying handles this appears to be one of the finer examples.
@tellyfaulkner3466
@tellyfaulkner3466 Жыл бұрын
🤣 Classic! And, what home town is that Chris?
@Sparkey
@Sparkey Жыл бұрын
@@tellyfaulkner3466 Halifax
@chrishartley1210
@chrishartley1210 Жыл бұрын
@@Sparkey Thanks, saved me the trouble 😅
@davidkillens8143
@davidkillens8143 Жыл бұрын
As I watched the description of this machine, it became obvious that it has the potential to kill or cause serious damage if you make a tiny mistake. This machine could never pass any safety standards review under current safety regulations. But she is a beast.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro Жыл бұрын
@@davidkillens8143 , Never thought of that, but undoubtedly true!
@gwpsr58
@gwpsr58 Жыл бұрын
When Kurtis is rattling off stats on a machine or part, I'm always in awe. Then the outtakes come and I find out it's all editing :)
@mikeweagle5523
@mikeweagle5523 Жыл бұрын
Kudos yet again for Karin. She works miracles
@donraptor6156
@donraptor6156 Жыл бұрын
He is reading it off cue cards! Get Real!
@Peter-or8oc
@Peter-or8oc Ай бұрын
It shows the workmanship of those machine makers from the 50's and early 60's they made them to last they're 60+ years old and with proper maintenance will be here in another 60+ years amazing machines
@crichtonbruce4329
@crichtonbruce4329 Жыл бұрын
I've been reading some comments on the schematics and manuals Curtis found. Such items are often invaluable treasures for such an old machine, but also fragile! I'd urge you, Curtis and anyone who has such things, to get them professionally scanned and a work copy printed. Put the originals in a safe place! Maybe send a copy of the scan to Keith Rucker at Vintage Machinery too.
@jonathangriffin1120
@jonathangriffin1120 Жыл бұрын
I started my apprenticeship in '65 and I'm still learning about British machine tool manufacturers, Kitchen and Walker is a new'un on me although I have heard of Kitchen and Wade. A few years ago I was up at the Middleton Railway in Leeds and saw a Swift lathe {Halifax) also a lathe made by Sentinel (Shrewsbury) who are best known for steam waggons and railway locomotives. Got to respect a bloke with the bottle to admit to dropping a bollock on the internet. All The Best from Somerset, England.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
hey mate, have seen a few comments about Kitchen & Wade so I wonder if the company changed names at one point. Cheers
@mickwalker8813
@mickwalker8813 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like it, we had a Kitchen & Wade radial arm drill at our foundry in Lancashire, England back in the 80's
@jrwhite7916
@jrwhite7916 Жыл бұрын
You find some of the coolest toys. I see them and I'm like "I want 1!".. just 1 problem. I'm not a machinist. Never done anything like that and wouldn't know what to do with it, but I still want one. Don't think it would fit in my 216 square foot little tiny workshop though.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
you need a bigger workshop! 😂
@Agnemons
@Agnemons Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering You ALWAYS need a bigger workshop!
@ronwilken5219
@ronwilken5219 8 ай бұрын
​@@Agnemonsjust like you always need more tools.
@Bill_N_ATX
@Bill_N_ATX Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the great machines we built here in the US to build the many, many parts that won WW2. Some of them are still running today and are prized for the jobs they do. They aren’t computer controlled but in the hands of a skilled machinist, they can make just about anything. Sadly, we don’t make anything like them anymore.
@bushratbeachbum
@bushratbeachbum Жыл бұрын
If you go to a workshop in the uk where there's heavy machines and blokes in brown cotton smocks with a selection of well sharpened pencils, a good quality Parker pen and a 6 inch rule in the breast pocket, you can guarantee they're doing good work, almost certainly work very few people can do. Still plenty of places like that, though they are becoming less common, sadly. Even before the war these guys were producing excellent products on machines most of us would struggle to name, let alone run. The industrial revolution is fascinating and something worth every moment learning about i reckon. I easily get lost for hours learning about the history of machining and industry in general
@izalman
@izalman Жыл бұрын
Recall seeing a massive Farrel machine (told it was made in the US) hobbing a crankshaft out of the biggest block of steel you could imagine. Block of steel was fixed, tooling rotated around the workpiece, so much swarf they used a garden rake to pull it away. Once all the throws were cut on the flat, they clamped the block, heated the main bearing areas and rotated the big end to form the correct angle for the crank.
@liamfisher917
@liamfisher917 Жыл бұрын
The US still makes lots of machining gear and also heavy equipment.
@flatmoon6359
@flatmoon6359 Жыл бұрын
Long time ago produced parts for ROLLS ROYCE diesels,worked on parts with 5 thou tolerance on parts 36" diameter,no optics,no digital readout.I thought this was history,till working in an different engineering industry, service call on hydraulics, there were 10 of them in a line.Manager "what's up " looking at machine at one machine.I used to work in that.That was 40 year's ago.One of the tool slots still had a" indentation" I caused.Still working to same tolerance.Time to retire.
@fordmud
@fordmud Жыл бұрын
I think you'd be surprised how many of those old machines are actually still working. Probably closer to 80%. I have 4 of them in my shop all from the late 30s through the 50s. The two lathes I have can out do most of the machine shops in my area with newer equipment when it comes to machining long lengths without cutting a taper. South Bend lathe Axleson lathe Carlton drill press Bridgeport knee mill
@mdouglaswray
@mdouglaswray Жыл бұрын
Kurtis, you must have balls of steel and nerves of ice to move such huge machines so well. I've done this work and am always impressed at how smooth and simple you make it look. Excellent rigging every time.
@markmunro8753
@markmunro8753 Жыл бұрын
Homeless loves his new machine😂😂😂. Thank you team.😊😊
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
There is still talks of him having his own show lol
@johnmcclain3887
@johnmcclain3887 Жыл бұрын
Thirty years ago, I worked around machines of that size I barely knew what they did. Now I know what they do, but I'm retired, dreaming of the old days. You've got some really excellent old machinery that shows its quality by the very fact it's no less productive to day as sixty years ago. I really enjoy seeing the quality of work you regularly do. Thanks!
@DymondzTrucking1962
@DymondzTrucking1962 Жыл бұрын
Built back when they made stuff the last. That's one of the reasons I like my old machines. Keep up on the maintenance they last forever. Have a good weekend guys see you next time.
@totojejedinecnynick
@totojejedinecnynick Жыл бұрын
But how can it work without a cloud subscription? And where is the supplier contract for servicing? What about bi-yearly mandatory electrical inspections? Software updates? How could it possibly work!?
@peebee143
@peebee143 Жыл бұрын
In about 1973 I was studying electronics and we had a college tour of the plant where your borer's switchgear was manufactured. The firm was then called Brookhurst Igranic (BHI) based in Bedford. Later taken over by cutler Hammer Europa.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
That's bloody awesome thanks for sharing some history!
@scania357
@scania357 Жыл бұрын
The site where BHI was located is just houses now like most of our industrial sites.
@peebee143
@peebee143 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Thank you! Keep making those vids. I have a pal in Queensland who is involved with mineral extraction. You may even know one another as nodding acquaintances at some sites.
@jimc12
@jimc12 Жыл бұрын
Dated... I was doing hand drawn blueprints up til 1998. From there I got into unigraphics, Autocad and CATIA. I'm not old!
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
that is a spam account please report it
@gangleweed
@gangleweed Жыл бұрын
When I served my apprenticeship, as a fitter and turner in the late 50's I did part of my "ship on a horizontal borer.......then later in the mid 60's after I finished my apprenticeship, I worked for a firm in Salt River in Cape Town called Endurance Engineering and they had a couple of pre war horizontal bores, all driven by flat belts....... when I returned to UK from South Africa, I worked for Strachan and Henshaw in St Philips Mash in Bristol on a Kearns horizontal borer for 3 years making parts for the Admiralty atom subs.
@onemoredeadman
@onemoredeadman Жыл бұрын
Being made in Halifax the measurements of the machine are actually in MacIntosh toffees, not bananas 😁
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Delicious 🤣👍
@CODdymanic
@CODdymanic Жыл бұрын
Quality
@onemoredeadman
@onemoredeadman Жыл бұрын
@gae My Dad is from the U.K. when he came out to N.Z. we were just switching to metric, when he got used to it he'd swear out loud anytime he struck something in imperial he found it so easy to work metric and he was a time served fitter and turner🤣🤣🤣
@jimmyb1451
@jimmyb1451 Жыл бұрын
That's fancy looking old machine. Gonna be interesting to watch the modification process. Have you ever considered playing around with Arduino's? (Lego for micro controllers) Potentially, and without too much effort, you could use one to drive feed servos you're going to install which would mean you could automate some of the processes. It would only have to stop at the end of some operations to manually change out tooling, but for things like boring, where multiple passes are needed, potentially you could make it "set and forget". Locking off the axes though, might be a bit of a trick. (maybe small servo driven locks?) Automating single processes wouldn't be much of a time saver, but if there are common dimensions, you could save profiles. Perhaps with some input menu to set zero offsets. On a side note, it's very refreshing to hear someone say "I smashed a tool bit" or "I sent it the wrong way" followed by "I drove the tool...", rather than things like "It broke the tool", "It drove itself into the job", "It went the wrong way". People will argue that "It's just a turn of phrase" and that there's no difference. There is a difference, and it speaks volumes to the character of the person saying it.
@bschwand
@bschwand Жыл бұрын
or do a real CNC build using linuxCNC
@jimmyb1451
@jimmyb1451 Жыл бұрын
@@bschwand Yeah, or that.
@alfadoofus
@alfadoofus Жыл бұрын
I agree on that last bit, Kurt looks like a real stand up guy.
@highpointsights
@highpointsights Жыл бұрын
@@jimmyb1451 linux lovers all over the planet!!
@deconteesawyer5758
@deconteesawyer5758 Жыл бұрын
Yes, he can do all that in his spare time at work :)
@emmadictator4062
@emmadictator4062 Жыл бұрын
That is a hefty piece of kit! Congratulations on your new purchase! It reminds me of when we actually manufactured equipment in Britain!
@bens8919
@bens8919 Жыл бұрын
it feels crazy that im watching the channel of an Australian craftsman on the opposite side of the world, over the internet using a machine that was made 10miles from me 70 years ago.
@kenthesparky178
@kenthesparky178 Жыл бұрын
As a 70 year old retired electrician having used schematic electrical drawings many times I suggest you fasten that drawing to a new sheet of backing paper .Those folds will turn to tears in no time.I can't tell you how many times I come across this situation. Pieces go missing or the vital bit of information is on that joint and is no longer readable or you have to do a jigsaw before starting the repair,all very annoying when the machine breaks down and time is urgent.Great machine ,as I have commented before you bring back so many memories ( good and bad)👍❤️
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great tip mate!
@trevorkrause7220
@trevorkrause7220 Жыл бұрын
Get that paper drawing digitally scanned professionally. The digital copy can then be cleaned up to increase the line and text definition. Probably then can be converted to a proper CAD drawing with little effort so that any future additions or alterations to the electrics can be easily and permanently added for easy reference.
@billdoodson4232
@billdoodson4232 Жыл бұрын
Yea got to back up what Trevor has said. One of the real benefits of modern tech is the ability to have these sorts of drawings scanned in and cleaned up and then be saved in say dxf file formats.
@Holli622
@Holli622 Жыл бұрын
I love the machinery and equipment videos. Especially the older styles of machines. Take care and have a nice weekend! 👍
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
We've got a soft spot for these older machines, they just don't make them like this anymore! Glad you enjoy the vids you have a good one mate
@CowboysFan777
@CowboysFan777 Жыл бұрын
I will play all your videos when my grandbabies come to my house! My grandson loves big machines! Its better than cartoons :D
@donmathias1705
@donmathias1705 6 ай бұрын
Ran three horizontal borers for a company making cat loaders and graders. Very versatile. The Kearns had 14 ft left to right travel, about 6 ft vertices and about 5 ft in and out. It had a 5" quill that went out for ever. It had an early dro fitted on the three axis. Totally manual measuring on the quill. One job was cat 950 bits. front and rear frames and lift arms. We made a massive "fly cutter". Actually a 30" disc about 30mm thick with insert holders bolted into a pocket. Great for facing down between brackets like steering ram faces and loader arm bosses to width. Could cut on either side and down about 12" behind a member. Like scratching your back, hard to reach spots! Good luck.
@Nocturnal2010
@Nocturnal2010 Жыл бұрын
It's cool watching you guys expand over the last year when I first discovered your channel. I'm not a machinist but I've always been fascinated with all types machines, the skilled tradesmen that master them, and guys that keep them running like myself.
@joakimportnoff1093
@joakimportnoff1093 10 ай бұрын
try it out it's awesome to create in metals or like any materials.. only females know what true creation means, bringing forth an new human being.
@nauroticdax
@nauroticdax Жыл бұрын
I love how the channel is called "cutting edge" and you're talking about a machine from the 60's, Don't get me wrong it just goes to show that back then they had the right idea and aside from comfort features (DRO's, better oiling systems, mostly better electronics) not much has changed in the machines themselves...so much that even 80 years later it's still going
@donblevins1181
@donblevins1181 Жыл бұрын
60s were only 60 years ago check your math
@kellyblack4897
@kellyblack4897 Жыл бұрын
Most machine shops still use equipment from this era because it’s all analog and can be repaired. The brown and sharpe screw machines we used at centerline were manufactured in 1907. Physics doesn’t change. The Hardinge knee mill we have at the shop is the main money maker and it was manufactured in the early 50’s
@taxicamel
@taxicamel Жыл бұрын
A LOT has changed in the machines of today. Apart from the fact that most new machines are now CNC, which means all the electrics are completely different ....the machines these days do NOT have the rigidity of the old machines. This is a fundamental requirement to machining. Manufacturers have applied LM guides whenever they can ...claiming higher accuracies, higher machining capabilities, etc., ......but the fundamentals of solid, strong, heavy machines, is very rare in today's machines. Heavy-walled meehanite castings requires a lot of knowledge. The old boys who figured out what the requirements were are gone ....replaced by people who do not care as much. .
@nauroticdax
@nauroticdax Жыл бұрын
@@donblevins1181 you are right my bad, however that doesn't necessarily make what I said wrong there are plenty of machines from the 40's and further still kicking around
@nauroticdax
@nauroticdax Жыл бұрын
@@taxicamel yes they have changed for the worse I was more pointing at changes for the better but you are right
@simshogun2240
@simshogun2240 Жыл бұрын
Kitchen Walker originally did their own castings in the UK and they were better known for their pillar drills which were bulletproof but they made many engineering machines and your machined end is so you can add sections to make it as long as you require, latterly they did their castings in India and rough machined them before shipping to the UK for final machining. They purpose built machines to special order for specific industries and they built some to face pipe flanges for 4' diameter pipe when the flanges had been welded on and the rotary head could be ordered with specific degrees of rotation for repetitive work or small batch work and you can machine slots in your bed if required. If this machine is maintained it will outlast you and your children and will easily see 100 years old. Kitchen Walker are still in business. One suggestion I would make is to use a lubricant/coolant for rough or heavy cuts and lose the coolant for a final or thin cut.
@peterchambers1868
@peterchambers1868 Жыл бұрын
I am a retired guy, who thoroughly enjoys your channel,- the lady you and the dog. If i had opportunity, I would have become a machinist. I have been in newspapers all my life, so I have always been around BIG machines.
@tubefish666
@tubefish666 Жыл бұрын
What a beautiful machine. Such a solid build quality. This machine will outlive many generations of mechanics.
@brucepickess8097
@brucepickess8097 Жыл бұрын
Back then in the UK we made things to last, what a beast, however ease of use perhaps not so good.
@tubefish666
@tubefish666 Жыл бұрын
@@brucepickess8097 Think of an artist playing his violine. Ease of use also not so good. Needs practice. But after learning to master his instrument, the artist will deliver the most beautiful works of art. :)
@thesloppyapprentice2528
@thesloppyapprentice2528 Жыл бұрын
We are using those machines still in reduction gear housing production. For parallel axis reduction gear almost all machining is done on one of these machines, including bearing positions, grooves, facing and fastener holes, usually without even repositioning the part.
@stuartbagedonow9770
@stuartbagedonow9770 Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty cool that a machine that old is still viable, One thing I’d like to comment on, here in the states we use thousands of an inch not girly man millimeters. Thanks Stu
@gerardocabrera3787
@gerardocabrera3787 11 ай бұрын
There no doubt, you will enjoy putting this big bad boy to work and for our viewing pleasure. (Hey there's a name for it,Triple B Big Bad Boy. ⭐⚡🚀Triple B🚀⚡⭐
@papalilburn
@papalilburn Жыл бұрын
You obviously found a fantastic machine for the money! My old machine shop teacher told us many times, "fellows, its all about speeds and feeds in this business!" He was right!
@douglasboyle6544
@douglasboyle6544 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love how you keep bringing these old workhorses in to do the jobs you need. Very much looking forward to the series of transformations you have planned.
@BruceNitroxpro
@BruceNitroxpro Жыл бұрын
And watch out for the flying handles!
@daviddundas4140
@daviddundas4140 Жыл бұрын
Love how Curtis is so passionate about these machines, if it could talk, what stories it could tell.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
would be great if we knew it's provenance and history!
@patrickspringer6534
@patrickspringer6534 Жыл бұрын
I really like that cabover Kenworth. The wheelbase looks like a dream to reverse in the tight spots.
@johnlanham9057
@johnlanham9057 Жыл бұрын
That beginning montage with the semi backing in was Eye Opening. I had no idea you were located on a Main Street. All the previous views had left me thinking y’all were out in the middle of nowhere. 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️. Go figure. That Metal Raymond has a machine that looks similar. And like you, that dude is ALSO a helluva operator. I love both y’all’s channels. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@gabrielecossettini2923
@gabrielecossettini2923 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kurtis! I suggest you another mod to this machine. Changing the electric motor who feeds the "spindle" with one with brakes when you press the stop button. The fact that is continuing to turn when you stop it is giving me anxiety 😃
@DoNE021
@DoNE021 Жыл бұрын
Everything was built with quality back in the days, Built to last meny meny decades. This old machines are gold to find.
@Toqueville2023
@Toqueville2023 Ай бұрын
features like that limit switch really display the thought that went into it's design!
@ypaulbrown
@ypaulbrown Жыл бұрын
holy smokes, watcha bought now.....have a great weekend every one, Paul from the other Sunshine State.......across the Pacific
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
we got ourselves a Unicorn!
@Jammer.1
@Jammer.1 Жыл бұрын
If my grandma was still alive she could tell you so much about them as she ran them in the 60's making parts for Studebaker & Oliver plow works !
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Oh wow that's bloody neat thanks for sharing mate
@markroberts1858
@markroberts1858 9 ай бұрын
Wow. The ingenuity of the engineers who who designed this all those years ago is mind blowing. No computers all written and designed by hand.
@AngelSanchez-du8ze
@AngelSanchez-du8ze Ай бұрын
Great talent Kurtis. Wish I could have met you when I worked in Australia for 2 years. I am a surveyor, from one tradesman to another, keep passing on the knowledge. Traditional surveying is also a dying art, not too many guys out there know the math to perform their own calculations in the field. Hopefully you will be able to pass on your shop to your kids someday. 🇺🇸.
@tomoz57
@tomoz57 Жыл бұрын
The number of older machines I've worked on and wished for a schematic, rather than taking educated guesses. That's amazing it's still readable.
@larry_g9262
@larry_g9262 Жыл бұрын
A thought to keep in mind is that you could add a VFD to the table drive motor to gain some flexibility in the speeds instead of just 3 fixed speeds.
@ronblack7870
@ronblack7870 Жыл бұрын
yes i said the same. but may need to change feed motor to one designed to use a freq drive.need class F or H insulation . the current motor will work but if you go low freq it may burn up.
@BrucePierson
@BrucePierson Жыл бұрын
That machine was really well made. The fact that it's still working is evidence of that. They made things to last back then, not like now that things need replacing at short intervals. It will be interesting seeing the modifications you make to the machine to suit your requirements.
@grant6173
@grant6173 18 күн бұрын
After I watched this, I fell asleep and dreampt that my daughter had made a facing borer in shop class. Created quite a stir. We took it apart to load into a UHaul. Turns out, they're as heavy as they look!
@lopezlopez7132
@lopezlopez7132 Жыл бұрын
So, it's a video about some old machine and 98% of the people watching it will never be even close to a machine like that, BUT it's very interesting to watch and the explanation how the thing works is clear and to the point. So, great video! Thanks!
@simsapot
@simsapot Жыл бұрын
While I laugh at the out-takes, I am in awe of your skills, expertise and professionalism! Hey Karen thanks for capturing all these great videos! Looking forward to more and more…..Regards from Banana-Land….
@Azguella
@Azguella Жыл бұрын
4 legged factory inspector came to inspect the machine and was pleased
@zaineridling
@zaineridling 7 ай бұрын
That machine wants to be fed! Another interesting video. Really appreciate you reminding us in the United States that Metric really is simpler, more precise, and easier at EVERY point in the shop, on the machine, and under the bonnet!
@ammeydan
@ammeydan Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, and the bloopers obviously. A quick safety add-on for the feed and traverse issue. You can add 2 microswitches to the feed lever and 2 led rows on the in and out lines under the buttons. This way, the right row illuminates according to the lever's position. Thus, putting an end to the inserts chips flying around the shop.
@bertayoing
@bertayoing Жыл бұрын
great machine.something rare these days ,you dont see "made in england" much anymore.built to last a lifetime this one.great chomping sound from homey getting his treat.haha.all the best.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Yeah there were some really nice machines that came out of England back then! We've got a UK built Delapena honing machine that's also very cool
@jackrichards1863
@jackrichards1863 Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering Sounds like a French or Spanish machine with a de la Anything in the name!
@bertayoing
@bertayoing Жыл бұрын
@@jackrichards1863 made in uk my friend.cheltenam to be exact.
@jackrichards1863
@jackrichards1863 Жыл бұрын
@@bertayoing Yea realised that but anyway, just saying. 👍
@chrisharris8727
@chrisharris8727 Жыл бұрын
Great content again guys and what a fantastic old machine and in perfect condition. Being from the UK it gives me a sense of pride that a lot of engineering machinery was manufactured here back in the day and is still going strong nowadays. It’s such a shame that we virtually have no manufacturing industry left in the UK but at least the stuff that is out there is still going strong. My Grandad worked in Coventry at a firm called Alfred Herbert’s making lathes and milling machines in the 1950s until the late 70s. As a youngster when I stayed over with him and Grandma he would get a massive world Atlas out and show me where some of the machines he built were sent to. I was absolutely amazed and couldn’t believe a machine that big that Grandad had help make was going all those miles away - happy memories. Keep up the great work and videos Kurtis, Karen and of course Homeless you are my Friday morning fix here in the UK along with a cup of coffee before work 😀👍🏻
@bertplank8011
@bertplank8011 Жыл бұрын
You might want to ponder WHY British industry has been decimated and perhaps do something about it.....it would require a radical overhaul of the country and the first positive step would be to get rid of the Windsors who have reached their sell by date.The newspapers are FULL of crap about these idiots.....they contribute nothing and simply leech off the economy.
@jimparr01Utube
@jimparr01Utube 9 ай бұрын
Oh my! A Selenium bridge Rectifier in the electrical cabinet (the big fin thingies). And yes, electrical tape (Japan NITTO that you can still obtain) first appeared in the early to mid 60's.
@alfitz2189
@alfitz2189 5 ай бұрын
Great content! Karen is the best tool you have. She is very professional with her photography and production.
@nategreycanopywelding8679
@nategreycanopywelding8679 Жыл бұрын
A week of learning for young Karl! (Just blame everything on Karl when it doesn’t go right). This is probably another reason why Kurtis and Karen haven’t hired anyone, because I would have tried to see how far I could launch the handle. Great video y’all.
@kempy666999
@kempy666999 Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed the vid - thanks. $4000 AUD is fantastic value in so many ways: * New (British 😎) machine for the workshop. * Vids of the various modifications. * Vid of the Hydroptic jig borer in action. The anticipation for this vid is immense 🤤 All the best, Paul
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Hey Paul cheers mate glad we can bring some video enjoyment while we enjoy the new toy *ahem* tool for the workshop 😂👍
@vulgivagu
@vulgivagu Жыл бұрын
Hi from Uk. I know the company is still in business , just give them an email and they will be sure to help you. So many of these wonderful British companies went to the wall but this one survived. Every time I look at you working I wish I was back in the workshop again ! You are first class, best of luck with the new machine.
@michaelcerkez3895
@michaelcerkez3895 6 ай бұрын
Very nice machine. A beautiful hairy beast, ready for work. I do have to say from being a tractor trailer driver in my youth, nice tractor that made the delivery.
@TheWidgetWorks
@TheWidgetWorks Жыл бұрын
Nice, love the old timey control style with feed and rapid on the same buttons but backwards, makes it way easier to create a good machine crash video. One thing that I've seen done is to put flip up safety covers on the buttons, that way you can just have one button uncovered and it would be the right button for both infeed and rapid out.
@dcrahn
@dcrahn Жыл бұрын
That is a fine and cool old machine. I look forward to see the tooling and modifications you make. Also I look forward to a good laugh of Friday's, you never let me down and make my day.👍
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
cheers mate glad you enjoy the vids!
@andrewlockwood6102
@andrewlockwood6102 Жыл бұрын
Hey Curtis, love the vids mate. I don't wanna sound like an OH&S zealot ... but take it from a bloke who thought he was 110KG, 6' 5" and bulletproof - nobody is! I started to notice my hearing was a bit off in my late 40s and I have a mate who is an Audiologist, so I thought for a laugh I'd get tested. I wasn't laughing after the test. I had a significant dip in a number of distinct frequencies and whilst I could still hear (almost) everything, I was beginning to sometimes struggle to understand speech, particularly in noisy environments like the pub or a party. My mate told me I had the classic hearing loss signature of a tradie. He said, "you ever worked with power tools, you know like an angle grinder?" And there it was. Yes, I had done a reasonable amount. Not ever as a professional - but just as an owner builder. Fast forward another 10 years and through natural deterioration, I now get really annoyed at what I can't decipher - always asking my kids "can you say that again?" or "what was that?" For WAY too long I was WAY too cavalier about hearing protection (and eye protection too) - and now I am paying the price. And here is where you can make a difference for others, that need not suffer the same fate. EVERY time that you use a piece of equipment over which you could not comfortably speak ... you need hearing protection. EVERY time. Your videos have millions of views. Your actions will be replicated. So here's my request. EVERY time you go to pick up such a tool, you just give your hearing protection a quick tap and give the camera a quick thumbs up. You could make an even bigger difference to the many people who LOVE what you do. Keep up the great work mate!
@mauricelevy9027
@mauricelevy9027 Жыл бұрын
The old British machine tools might not have looked good cosmetically but because or they're structural weight they last for Years ,Yet these days they are valued more for their scrap value than their functional ability which is a great shame but that's "progress" I guess. It's so good that folks like You appreciate them for what they do and how many years they can do it for without literally wearing out.Thanks for the quick run through .
@davidholder3207
@davidholder3207 Жыл бұрын
Those 1950-60's machines had big nuts and workplace health & safety was most definitely a personal responsibility.
@sidneybowerman558
@sidneybowerman558 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video immensely. Your presentation skills are first class. The lady doing the recording and editing deserves a medal. Well done to both of you.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@bernieshort6311
@bernieshort6311 Жыл бұрын
What a beauty, I operated and set up machines such as yours Horizontal Facing & Boring machines along with universal boring machines during my apprenticeship at HM Dockyard Devonport. I was trained as an Engine Fitter and Turner. They were my favourite machines to operate, and I got as much enjoyment out of them as I did operating centre, capstan and turret lathes. Sheesh your machine takes me back 52 years. Once you have set this machine up and ironed out any issues, I am sure it will serve you well.
@_Frenchy
@_Frenchy Жыл бұрын
We come here for the world's happiest dog, everything is amazing!
@bijiont942
@bijiont942 Жыл бұрын
I work nights and seeing you get a night delivery was just on point for me. Happy CEE Friday everyone. Thank you for the content.
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thanks for watching!
@jonathangriffin1120
@jonathangriffin1120 Жыл бұрын
Bear in mind Kurtis is in the Southern Hemisphere so they're having their winter down there so it could be just early in the morning.
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop Жыл бұрын
I truly understand messing something up when figuring out a machine you have never seen or used before. Many years ago, I bought a Warner and Swasey OAC at an auction in Sydney for $200 and had to figure it all out with no manuals at all, the first part I ran in it was a 300gm Brass elbow billet, at 3000 rpm, it moved in the 2 jaw chuck, and before I could hit the emergency stop button, it came out of the chuck and blew a 1 foot round hole through the perspex door and hit me in the shoulder, damn lucky it didn't kill me, but I mastered the bugger in the end and had it doing exactly what I bought it for, I even picked up a 2nd one. 😁
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
bloody hell did you need to go change your pants after that one mate? 😅😅 glad you figured it out in the end, what a bargain
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop
@MyMiniHomeWorkshop Жыл бұрын
@@CuttingEdgeEngineering I had me lying on the floor screaming obscenities, it might even have made you blush 😂
@lawrencewillard6370
@lawrencewillard6370 Жыл бұрын
Just made a tailstock chuck 'like yours', and a lathe mill set-up, BUT making NOTHING like one of them. You have a wonderful following here, laugh with them on their input. A joy.
@AndreUchoaUSA
@AndreUchoaUSA Жыл бұрын
You're ready to work on the sales department! Good job and congrats!
@jamesferguson1054
@jamesferguson1054 Жыл бұрын
That is very nice machine, I can tell it has been taken well care of, looks like a 1960’s era, that’s when machines were built tuff and heavy, started my shop in 1968.
@paulwomack5866
@paulwomack5866 Жыл бұрын
Watching the design, making and ultimate use of new tooling/adapters on real work is just the sort of thing I enjoy. Looking forward to this a lot.
@fredblogsmac.5697
@fredblogsmac.5697 Жыл бұрын
Hi Kurtis, im a scot and as a boy in the late 50,s and 60,s i travelled the length of England, it had to be seen to be believed massive chimneys everywhere hundreds of feet tall all pouring thick black smoke, the streets at midday looked like a half dark place with all the smoke in the air, the noise of machines and industry was unbelievable, all gone now.
@bubihartmann3961
@bubihartmann3961 Жыл бұрын
Ein guter Mann ,der weiß was er tut und weiß von was er redet!!👍🖖😁Viele Grüße aus Deutschland
@alangraham4526
@alangraham4526 Жыл бұрын
Love your vids mate and pragmatic approach. There's a lot of old pommie machinists going around minus "bits and pieces" that used this old stuff and invariably you had one guy that ran the same machine for years as there was a "learning curve". I would say a small PLC and sensors could and would prevent "righting off" anymore inserts etc. Directional interlocks etc would be simple to program in to avoid "operator error"! Failing that be just like "old Harry" served his time and retired on the same machine. :-) Missus does a great job too and only laughs in the edited bits!
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Gday, what an absolute bargain, definitely a big asset and the results from the test cuts are very promising, I’m keen to see the modifications, awesome video as always mate, have a great weekend, cheers
@CuttingEdgeEngineering
@CuttingEdgeEngineering Жыл бұрын
Hey mate we are happy to get our hands on this old girl, can't wait to put it to work. Karen also says great work on the editing in your new videos! 😎👍 Chat soon mate
@boe4448
@boe4448 Жыл бұрын
Kurtis, Looks like a well maintained/quality machine. looking forward to see it being used. Boe 👌
@debragibson3489
@debragibson3489 Жыл бұрын
Engineering......Amazing!!!!! And a chunk of history $4000 Very nice score!
@cyberherbalist
@cyberherbalist Жыл бұрын
Nice little item! I look forward to seeing it in action. My grandfather was a machinist, as was my late wife's father, and I can imagine them working with machines like this! Amazing what one can find for sale out there in the world!
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