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I'm guessing the final update will be New Game +. Inventory, money, level, stash, vehicles, etc can carry over. Start all over again but with different choices. Completing New Game + will unveil a secret cutscene that hints to CyberPunk sequel and have the internet relevance again.

I really hope and pray that CDPR listens to the community heavily focuses on immersion and roleplay with the sequel to Cyberpunk 2077.

I wish we had gotten all 3 DLC, I loved every square meter of Cyberpunk 2077 and Phantom Liberty, I would have happily paid another £100 for the missing 2 DLC.

I don’t care about multiplayer. I just want more panam.

Some things I would like to see in future updates: -Vehicle paint shops -Customizable clothing -Cybernetic body appearance options (limbs, skin, etc.) -More quickhacks -BD recording

Phantom liberty was so good shame we aren't getting another expansion

I want one more DLC so bad I seriously am in love with this game so much, it’s literally everything I ever wanted in a cyberpunk game. The world is amazing and reminds me of futurama so much haha

A Cyberpunk 2077 themed live action cop show would be so very cool. A team of honest cops (maybe a MaxTac team) trying to serve the people of Night City and uphold the law in a world of so much violence and corruption could be such an interesting concept.

Waterfall vs Agile I'm a dev (not CDPR employee) and I can tell you this: there's multiple types of Agile development and each house has their own rules, kindda like playing Uno. Hopefully it will turn out ok and their agile 'house rules' are ok. You cannot assume that just because Phantom Liberty turned out ok, Orion will turn out ok as well because they're working agile. The real world does not work out that way. They don't have an existing platform for Orion like they had for Phantom Liberty. (platform = existing vanilla C2077), because they don't have an existing platform, because they are implementing on a brand new engine (for them, they didn't work in UE5 before) things can still go south. Sure, because of Agile, they have more flexibility than with Waterfall, they can turn around and iterate on things that go south, but make no mistake: things can and usually DO go south even with Agile. It's its own can of worms. What I mean by this whole comment, so TLDR: Agile is not the new Jesus Christ, don't automatically think that Agile will solve everything, because it won't. I believe it's better than Waterfall but, again, it's not the new sliced bread, it has its problems as well. Search "problems with waterfall" and "problems with agile", I won't write an entire novel in the comments, thanks!

Truth is we really don’t need a multiplayer

Hopefully Orion uses the same Night City map... just filled with life

Cyberpunk Orion wishlist: - Improved Role Playing Mechanics (Purchasing more stuff over the internet or through interactive ads, having a back story or character that truly immerses you in the role, more meaningful interactions with factions or individuals based on the role you choose to play). - Flying Cars/Metro System - Dense vertical city with plenty of activities. (At least 40% of buildings should be accessible at all times not just for quests - Clubbing, Casinos, Sports etc). - More quests/activities with side characters (Hiring individuals you come across to be apart of your crew, putting them to use to earn cash, going on missions with them)

It may be a long wait until the Cyberpunk sequel but it truly gives me something to look forward to

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As someone who actually works in the IT industry (specifically development of software), it's actually fairly rare to work purely in an agile method (as much as it is in waterfall). Some things you just can't test at iteration until later, depending on how you work your dependencies etc (your gun example I think is a pretty bad example I think as it is performed in a vacuum, unless you test against many weapons of its type, how do you know if it fires 'too fast' or 'too slow', although you do kinda absolve yourself if you get your customer (say, project manager or product owner) to sign off on it, you can still run into the same issue down the track as the game becomes more feature rich aka complete). It's also much harder to work in agile if you've also never done it before. The best thing about agile though is if some sort of scope change happens (for example, management suddenly decides to develop for primarily the PS8 or something) than you can arguably pivot much easier, but you know... it's still a large amount of work asset wise (and possibly programming in case resource management needs to change). Another issue is that documentation tends to get even worse in Agile methodologies in my experience, but luckily they are using 3rd party software in Unreal, so maybe they won't have to worry about this as much given that ideally Epic has done this much better. I think a better example of Agile development is this: You have an AI controlled Bot in a room that you want to test against the player character. The first iteration is testing that the Bot recognizes the player, the second iteration might be that the bot fires at the player, the third iteration might be that the bot looks for cover from the player, the fourth iteration might be that the bot chooses from cover options, the fifth might be that the bot now has to interact with an active player who is also moving and shooting, the sixth iteration is that there are now two bots against the player, the seventh iteration might be that the two bots share information between each other and so on and so on as the development continues and more optimized code comes online (although the core engine of unreal is pretty well optimized by now; Epic of course do release more versions and I imagine CDPR would have a closer development relationship with them given that perhaps money has probably already exchanged hands with some sort of licensing/support agreement) I guess my point is; Agile is hardly this wondrous mechanism that will automatically make the game more likely to come out on time (or on budget). Software Development is notoriously bad at keeping its own timeframes, whether it's games or anything else of some degree of complexity. I wish them luck though, but honestly I'm not sure I will dive into its sequel given that I was ultimately pretty dissatisfied with the ending(s) of both the game and Phantom Liberty.

Modding tools will be truly welcome addition.

I didn't experience any of the game breaking bugs from OG cyberpunk 2077, but it had a boatload of quirks. I think it's fun that I got to experience the original game and what it became. I thought it was worth the purchase on release, but with how much work and the game they created with the newer updates made it so much better.

The two new writers in Orion makes me nervous. Why not keep the original writers? Why change them??

WHAT ABOUT GAME + PLUS MODE. I WANT TO START OVER WITH CHARACTER

In the 90s and 00s, games managed to have FULL single players games WITH a multiplayer option. I just hope CDPR multiplayer doesn't interfere at all with single player, like so many Ubisoft, Rockstar and EA games do - to name a few!

Both “Agile” & “Waterfall” are actually aspects of project management and not specifically gaming development. Agile has many benefits for “getting things done” but if there’s a mistake like issues with the engine or game logic they have to start over again from the beginning

I wouldn't read too much into Waterfall vs. Agile. No one actually practices Agile as it's written and most often turns back into Waterfall anyway. Tell any Producer that any studio practices Agile and they'll give you a knowing smirk.

Hi im from the cybermp discord and i was there on the alpha testing. If you wish to see about 2 hours footage about the alpha testing we had its in my channel.... Do not expect exactly a perfect recording due to youtubes compression but its going to be there. We had an amazing time testing the mod and a few things have been fixed since that. And things are going to be even better in the future.

Those two writers on Orion do not give me confidence in the narrative...

It's hard to imagine anyone doing a project much larger than "Hello World!" with waterfall nowadays. Agile gets something minimally functional in alpha much more quickly and then tests the product as more functionality is being developed. That allows them to quickly discard ideas or functionality that doesn't work or isn't right for the game. It also lets them build a large suite of automated tests that cover every past issue the game had so they can quickly confirm they did not re-introduce a problem they thought was cured, or break existing infrastructure. That allows game testers to concentrate on the new content and functionality which is being added at each iteration of the agile development cycle. The bottom line is developers and testers can work in manageable sized chunks so less fall through the cracks, and there will be far fewer zero-day code bugs and other issues. Assuming agile is done right. Like anything else, you can screw it up.

I honestly love this game so much. Even with all its faults, glitches, and crashes, i loved it. I can't wait for the sequel, cant wait to see what they'll do.

I want more Songbird 😢

I'd just like something like a creation engine, so we can make our own missions and stories set in night city.

What is that last bit in your video with Mama Welles in the Columbarium? Is that some mod? I never came across that quest...

I always love your game coverage videos.

Cdpr is probably the only non indie dev team I actually look forward to for new releases. Love the stories in these games. Love all 3 witchers and really enjoyed cyberpunk even at release. Really happy cyberpunk was able to turn things around the last 3 years. Can’t think of any game in the future that I’m looking forward to that isn’t the next Witcher or cyberpunk. Unless another red dead gets announced, but that won’t happen anytime soon lol.

2:26 Hmm, about 65% of CDPR is now focused on Witcher 4. This is good.

I just wanna hang out on the rooftop drinking beer with my chooms in Night City.

I know it'll probably never happen but I'd love for CDPR to make mods avalaible for console too

There's good and bad about using servers for multiplayer in a game. Some of the old-school multiplayer games didn't have dedicated multiplayer servers, instead, they had server/client software built into the game so that the person hosting the game would be running the server version of the game and their friends would join their game, and automatically connect to their server, do it this way save the developer in server costs, which mean no excuse to charge players to play the online version of the game. The drawback to the server/client system being built into the game is connection is completely dependent on the host's internet connection, it's also more difficult to ensure players aren't using cheats, but if the host has a good internet connection there wouldn't be as much issue with lag from running the game on a main server and having to keep thousands if not millions of players synced with the game, I run into this issue often in a lot of MMOs where I get lag from the server because though the game is running on my PC it's also running on the main server so what I actually do in my game doesn't count, my inputs are sent to the server, then the server distributes my inputs to everyone else in my session instance, including back to myself and some times the main server gets bogged down doing this for thousands or millions of players, and you get a, "rubber banding effect," where suddenly your character springs back to where they were several seconds ago. I don't recall, "rubber banding," happening much under the client/server old-school method of online multiplayer, but it happens a lot with the main server method. The drawbacks to the old-school client/server method is you can't easily ensure players aren't using cheats, and you can't have as many people in the same session instance, so the game would just be multiplayer not massive multiplayer. I'm working on some game development myself and plan on using the old-school client/server method to not only save myself money on buying expensive gaming servers, but also ensure the game runs smoother for a group of friends who want to play instead of them rubber banding often because of main server lag. Star Trek Online's servers are setup to only allow up to 30 players per session instance and it still lags out often and gets rubber banding all the time.

this is honestly one of my favorite video game universes ever! i really hope they keep rolling with it and keep the games coming because i would play them no matter what

I just want Character Customization: Body Types, More Hairstyles etc NG+ too

Started playing for the first time about 5 weeks ago. Yea.. I’m 180 hours in. I’m basically working two jobs life and cyberpunk 😂 #hooked trying for 100% i have almost everything done except a couple more ncpd calls and the main story… everything else is done and I don’t have a skill stat below 50 of 60 😂

My biggest wish is that they add better movement and alow us to use the monowire to swign or grapple around. Mantis blades used to climb on walls . Gorilla arms to trow barrels on enemies or too launch yourself

I just really want some more cyber customization if that makes sense, like a robot arm or something

I really hope Orion will have 3rd person as a gameplay option.

I still say Orion is going to take a good while... My bet is December 10, 2030 -- ten years to the day that Cyberpunk 2077 was released.

I wish they would just keep more releasing DLC. I would pay for a pack of new missions combined with new game+, and increased level cap. Don’t even need new additions to the city. Seriously, CDPR shut up and take my money! Give us more cyberpunk!

i`m still pissed at CDPR, they screwed me over

Getting the whole thing done in the rough first and then evenly improving it until it's in its full detail is one of the basic rules of creating stuff. This could work

Say what you want but I'm not interested in a PVP add like a Saints Row like Co-op so we can either screw around do the story mode or whatever else we can do what's the option of fighting each other

I need NG+ for this game

Good to see you talk about some project management stuffs, waterfall and agile

If you grew up playing CS:S then that multiplayer mod looks flawless XD

One of the writers sadly is a DEI nutjob though, hopefully this will be kept in check, CDPR would not survive a Justice League disaster

The two new writers are concerning and makes me think Orion will be nothing like Cyberpunk 2077. Lets face it we have already heard from the CEO of the company working on the Witcher remake that they will be removing outdated content, we all know what that means, coupled with it being developed in American and I think peak CDPR Cyberpunk has come and gone. Wish they would just make a second story expansion.

Maybe they can mode the whole game where you can start from the very beginning, street gang low lvl, corp intern, nomad outside the city.

I think it would be cool in the story mode that you could create a crew from some crucial npcs that you meet. Maybe even in higher levels, you can pick crew members to run a gig without you. If you're not careful they could die off. Affecting you endings. Then add an online feature like GTAV where you could make a crew with friends and possibly even become a gang if you gather enough people and claim parts of the city. Just a few random thoughts.

We also need CP2077 in VR 🥳

Agile is only going to benefit them if they have proper code structure. if they tightly couple a lot of functions and features, then it's going to create issues when one sprint goes and makes a change to an object that then trickles down to all its dependent objects.

it may also be that Agile helped them speed things up with PL because the base was already built with Cyberpunk, so it could take the same/longer for a whole new game to be developed in that style but then adding features and DLCs might come faster

I'm blown away by the commitment the developers have towards this game. I wish other developers would learn from them.

Ppl forget that Cyberpunk TV SHOW is coming (maybe new anime too). They will for sure use that time to add some big patch for the game. Same like they did with Edgerunners.

What it needs is for the Doon music to kick in during boss fights lol

I hope that Orion takes the same map of Night City and add loads more unique interiors, so much potential going forward.

- "there's just a couple of lingering bugs" understatement of the year, the few dev's still left working on this game seem to release an update and break 3 more... there needs to come a time when management finally say 'we're done with this game, we need to move on' great video as always

They cant say a flat no we are done due to the investors and those variants. So the "maby in in the future" dont really meran anything. Basicly means there done. You can tell that a video game dev is lying because there mouth is moving and words are coming out of it.

Now are official mod tools something only for pc or is this something for consoles as well? I’m not familiar with what mod tools are.

Gave cyberpunk a try after everything got fixed im now on my 3rd playthrough im in love witu this game it has a certain aspect like fallout 4/skyrim did where its addicting to just keep coming back too

As long as they don't fall in the " get woke go broke" hole.

What about a new dlc. Crystal Palace, and along the Journey force to face "The Angels". It would be amazing.

I loved the game. Respect to CDPR for fixing it.

Theirs still some parts of cyberpunk that’s needs to get fixed especially regarding the NPCs in the city, but I’ve been having a great time finishing up phantom liberty

Hopefully they don't launch another Broken game. Much like Bethesda and Capcom, CDPR has horrendous QA and I won't trust anything until a week after launch.

I just hope CDPR did not hire some SBI "consultant" or I'm not touching Cyberpunk Orion with a 10 foot pole

Literally learned about agile and water fall a couple months ago in uni lol

Guys complaining about CDPR going woke are just mad they couldn't romance Judy with a male V.

So console could be getting mods

Hey can u make an video explaining step by step how to install mods ? i saw an mod video from u and went on nexus but im overwhelmed and a bit dump regarding some explainations from the side on how exactly to download them ?

the “we are still looking at this game and things might change” is lowkey such a good sign, because they said they were done with Witcher 3 updates and not so long ago they released that bigass patch that not only added new settings for next gen but some new weapons, armor and quests.

yeaaaa....multiplayer will make cyberpunk a toxic cesspool like multiplayer has always done. It RUINS games. The only thing cyberpunk needs are "co-op" like how saints row the third did.

Bro, CDPR has gone full DEI mode, everything else is going to be shite.

Here’s to the extremely unlikely (.00001% chance), that CDR gives us a DLC right before (like year before or something) to lead into Orion

My only question about the multiplayer mod is how it will deal with Sandevistan. Will it be disabled, will it slow the game down for everyone not using it, or will it deal with it in some other way?

Please dont go woke, pleaseeeeee dont go woke

Dude please. These updates keep breaking my mods man I'm trying to make it to 2000 mods and I'm a thousand behind rn

Working on Orion must be a dream job

Great video, I appreciate the effort you put into it.

What CDPR NEEDS to do is fix that stupid skill check scaling that in fact is ruing my enjoyment

I just bought this and I feel lucky to discover it "finished". It crashed ALL THE TIME and they patched it less than a week after my purchase and it crashed only 3 times since. I like it a lot. It nice that it's not the end.

So CDPR is simultaneously claiming there is no place for microtransactions in single player games and striving to make every i.p they have is multiplayer. Astounding

A 2077 multiplayer mode would blow GTA out of the water

Here's the thing about CyberPunk. It's dev team has shown us something very important that many other dev teams mess up ALL THE TIME! They care about the IP, and that if Orion is broken when it comes out, we KNOW it will be fixed, and will become amazing! They showed us their dedication to make a masterpiece, even if it isn't initially!

One thing I am hoping for in Cyberpunk: Orion is the added feature of a much deeper customization system for the main character. As while Cyberware and some features were improved compared to launch, I still feel we should’ve been able to make our own character that can be as diverse as the cast in Cyberpunk: Edgerunners. Choosing Cyberware and appearance modifications befitting of a brawler, Netrunner, sniper class etc. And heck with such upgrades and modifications being specifically designed for a single class you build your character to be throughout the course of the game. Not to mention getting cosmetic cyberware like the gold or silver skin mods we saw some characters use or be as wild as some of the cyberware seen by other factions in the game. Again maybe it can be so, or maybe not. But I am still really hoping to see a more deeper customization system added in the sequel.

People will throw their money at everything and anything and then complain that they are not able to buy the things they need.

Cyberpunk could have been the GOAT of video games if it was released at the state that 2.1 is at. I swore to myself never to preorder games but the hype for cyberpunk was crazy upon release, that it was the first, but also the last game I preordered. And boy that disappointment at the state of the game upon release was immense. Yes, they managed to redeem themselves, but the reputation damage for releasing the game to the public at such a state will stick with cdpr forever. Managed optimism from now on. NEVER. EVER. PREORDERING. AGAIN.

A bit of a systems design nerd moment, but it's really good to hear they're moving from an outdated waterfall model to an agile model. It really helps optimize the work flow because in the waterfall model, once you move on to the next stage of development if anything went wrong in previous stages it drastically affects later stages. In an agile model, if something goes wrong in one stage, it can be fixed on the next cycle relatively quickly without having to backtrack very much.

While I don't expect to this extent I could see the remote possibility that they do what Undeadlabs is doing. Undeadlabs made State of decay 1 and 2 and while they are working on State of decay 3 they are actually adding new features to state of decay 2 as essentially a test bed for players to experience it and give feedback. They don't add every single thing coming to state of decay 3 into state of decay 2 but state of decay 2's updates for the past couple years has been adding in new features slowly and getting feedback in the community and making a more advanced tuned version for their sequel.

8:15 as someone who has done some PM work. This is a fun nugget to add in there. While Waterfall is good for somethings, like FULL GAME launches IMO, the DLCs being Agile is a good call.

I would love to try playing Witcher 3 again with multiple mods in a way where I don't have to merge multiple script modifications together line-by-line in a text editor.

Agile is a big red flag. Devs hate agile so much that agile conferences get hacked and sabotaged regularly

i did like the agile production for phantom liberty, the one thing lacking tho was the guns and weapons. we got 3-4 different Iconics of the Same gun with different effects and reskins. id really like if there was more variety with the weapons.

Cyberpunk Orion Wishlist: -let the developers go home and see their families once and a while