I think the super glue let go then the disc broke. You can get high heat epoxies that should do the job. Normal epoxie as you found out will turn soft when heated and let go.

I can imagine a mechanic in Havana watching these videos for ideas. The cars in Cuba are kept running with some creative ideas like this.

this is seriously one of the best channels on KZfaq. respect from the USA

I remember helping my dad replace the clutch in his 1965 Ford Galaxie 500. It has the 390 with the 4 speed manual. That clutch would go out frequently and my dad decided to use a ceramic racing clutch. it worked although the pedal was heavy. The car never had an issue since. Now I own the car.

A high temp adhesive and surfacing the contact faces of the tile. Using rivets or screws would only introduce weak points in the tile and if they get even a little loose, the jolting would cause premature cracking. The hot spots on the flywheel and pressure plate have a couple causes. If the material was not uniform, there would be different spots with different properties. Like mixing a cake and not getting all the lumps. This is not very common with today's manufacturing, even for the cheap stuff. I believe yours happened because of uneven contact and wear creating isolated areas of high friction instead of dispersed wear. Your ingenuity and willingness to take on these projects is appreciated.

Need a re-do with the smooth/decorative side out, just to see what happens.

try again with smooth side this time as rubbing surface

Powder the tile and mix it with fiberglass resin to make your own plates. That would be awesome and cheep to do. Love you guys ❤️ definitely one of my favorite channels on KZfaq.

The super glue definitely let go. It's not designed for heat. I think you gentlemen need to use extreme heat metal epoxy like JB Weld. Very entertaining, like always! Thank you!

This video was great. Absolutely took me for surprise.. didn't expect it to work.

The hotspots on the friction disc are due to the thickness of the disc… As steel is heated the friction coefficient gets higher, so it grips, or gets hotter faster. Since the back of the friction disc isn't machined, it has thin spots, and those get blued.

I wish we had Ladas here in the US, I love the way they look.

Some racing clutches are very coarse. I suggest using big metal cut off wheels or a grinding wheel to drill and counter sink into. Been watching for a long time and enjoy seeing y'all push the limit's and create.

It is rather impressive how well it was holding up

I can't believe that adhesive handled as long as it did! That's great! Friggin LOVE this channel!!! 😊👌🤘🏻

I love these guys! We all pretty much know what is going to happen, but they set out and actually prove it and sometimes prove what we think will happen to be wrong! Either way I get excited whenever they post a new video!

That was a really awesome video Team Garage 54. You guys was awesome. I find it really amazing how something that is so smooth can grip so tightly. It is so puzzling but it is amazing to watch. Thanks for sharing this video with us.

Ok... I'm not even gonna lie, I was damn near certain that disc was gonna explode, like IMMEDIATELY. But, that burnout literally left my jaw dropped open... I love this goddamn channel

I feel like there's a bunch of ladas somewhere in russia talking about all the horrors of their time in Garage 54.. Like a horror movie.. Love it!, keep up the good work! Wonder how a welded diff would have treated that clutch....

Try it with fibre cement board, which can be riveted

new video idea. make a floating device boyant enough to hold a LADA, use the drive shaft as a propeller through the floor of the boat that will hold up the lada lol

Considering these are hardly scientific, I do enjoy watching the engineering behind the things you make. It's amazing Russian ingenuity.

I just want to say hey a shout out the garage 54 and to let them know that it is so awesome to have them on KZfaq I really enjoyed the content and the knowledge cuz sometimes people can't afford to buy the part they need to have to learn how to compromise and I think this guy shows that and some ways and he also teaches you about cars this shows just playing awesome thank you again you too you too

Try this again but use a couple of 30cm metal or stone cutting grinding discs, use the water jet to cut them to shape and rivet them to the pressure plate. Grinding discs have a strong woven construction that incorporates the ceramic friction material and are designed to be strong in tension, heat proof and completely shatter proof

This was AWESOME. Please do a little more work with this!

Always cool stuff on Garage 54!

That was a Lotta rubber from the 1 wheel burnout😂🙏 Love the channel guys! Much love from Canada!

Cool! That worked pretty good. Hey, Garage54, try making a very fast compressor out of a V8 Engine, powered by another V6 or a V8.

Great job Vlad! this one was awesome!

I have an idea worth trying, 2 manual transmissions in Lada, the 1st transmission is connected to the engine as usual then welding a flywheel at the end of 1st transmission, then install a clutch for the 2nd transmission, then install the 2nd transmission, last you install driveshaft to the end of 2nd transmission after adjusting driveshaft length. Remember that 2 clutch pedals are needed to change gears for each transmission individually, this will add so many variables to rear-end torque and speed ✌️

i love how you guy do these projects to se if it works and the info after is vital i think i have repaired a few clutch disks to extend the life due to lack of money to replace the part and i have had good luck with it ive shimmed the clutch to thicken it and on a seperate job i used fiberglass resin just the resin and it to worked for some time thanks for the videos looking forward to more

I would really like to see this again, with the smooth sides out and high heat epoxy. It seems like it could actually work. I think the shaking was from the coarse side of the tiles being on the outside.

Lada windshield glass would be perfect in this application. Tricky to cut maybe, but you guys can do ANYTHING!

You should make a clutch where the friction material is solid copper. That would be significantly awesome!

I think the failure was from the glue letting go. Cyanoacrylate or superglue is too brittle once its cured and also will soften with heat. Try using a reinforced epoxy capable of higher temperature like JB Weld, that should hopefully take more punishment.

Great channel! I enjoy the original content keep up the great work.

Love this channel. Doing crap we wouldn't dream about.....

love it,bit like the australian TV program "bush mechanics" where an elder make clutch facings from wood

I'm glad to see we got a thorough look at the aftermath with this one. It's interesting as hell, but they don't always include it. My guess on the cooked spots on the flywheel and cover plate would be that they were ever so slight high spots. With the almost instant abuse these parts saw, they would have experienced localised uneven heating from friction, then as the metal expanded they'd have become much more pronounced high spots. I'd think that if this clutch had been given a bit more of a break in time the contact area might have become a lot more even. I'm now wondering what they could have used to skim the clutch disc flat before fitting it? A tool post grinder would probably have done the job, but the porcelain would have been brutal on the grinding wheel. Maybe something like an old knurling tool would have been able to "Crush off" the high spots without cracking the whole disc?

"How do I apply this ceramic tile disc to the metal clutch plate?" Grout 😂

Is it just e who begins to think about Jones in Police Academy movies when vlad is doing different sounds? 😂😂😘

In the 1970s I once had to drive a broken truck from North Africa to Western Europe, with a defective clutch. I then made clutch plates of plywood, and to my surprise I got home safely

That worked better than I expected. Maybe if you can find a way to machine the faces super flat after mounting them, it might grip and wear more evenly. Haha this was great.

If the tile was fiber reinforced it would help, most ceramic clutches are ceramic/metallic reinforced with metal fibers

As a lathe guy myself I know when properly set up a lathe runs true. If it was out of round, you would have a one sided engagement on the flywheel and pressure plate. Those spots however, are likely caused by uneven expansion and contraction of the metal as the temperature changes. I've seen this on clutches before and it's likely caused by the friction of the clutch heating on the inside where the friction occurs faster than the outside edge. This causes the metal to expand and bulge outward into the clutch disc leading the those hot spots.

As I am trying to learn Russian, I would have appreciated greatly if I could hear their voices louder or if you provided a subtitled version. This is one of my favorite shows and it would have been nice to combine learning about cars with learning Russian in one sitting. Thank you!

This is real engineering. Big respect from the Netherlands.

since they used the rough side of the tiles it DECREASES the contact area between the flywheel and pressure plate which at the same time effectively INCREASES the clamping force of the pressure plate which is why the clutch was so grabby

Good quality Clutches are balanced in the factory that's why it bits more in some places of the flywheel and pressure plate

The reason why you have Heat spots is basically because The ceramic spot-welds itself for a moment when it finds grip and when the heat transfers it brakes off again. The plate doesn't have full contact like regular clutch plate so the heat transfer is not even and there in for distributed, but concentrated in small areas and therefor Very amplified. Also ceramic plate gets much hotter. Realistically they are used on Tanks Combines tractors and heavy duty Huge torque machines. But Flywheels and Pressure plates are much harder, also Clutch baskets apply way more pressure to engage them. They have Multiplate design and reduced diameter compared to Regular clutch plates. Since Ceramics needs higher Temps and pressure to start gripping. But when it does, it sticks stronger. Multiplate design helps smooth engagement and heat distribution.

Thats are hotspots you can machine it really hard, because in the past the spots were heat threatened by the cluth. So if you try to turn the plate in the lathe or mill it in the milling machine the mixture of the harder and softer areas are making throuble to get a good result. It can be too that it was machined the right way, but if you have done the burnout you created the hotspots with the ceramic clutch.

Worked better then I expected

'I installed bathroom tiles in my car engine!' *Car shakes* 'Whoah! It is shaking a lot! Why is it doing that?'

We love you G54 :)

You need better glue I think, or recess the tile to take rivets. And as with the brake pads I think it would work better using the smooth side for friction. Nice try. 👍

Haven't even finished and this is awesome 👏 I'm 1min into it

7:15 nope.. sachs performance pres. plate, ceramic clutch (5 spoke) and engagement is like stock, even more smoother as there is less travel..

tiles are not a uniform thickness after mounting you should check surfaces and grind flat ... very cool it worked thou :)

Ceramic tile is also used in bullet proof vest, Put 4 of them close to one another, And try shooting though it.

i really enjoy watching every episode.. keep it up how about using brake pads as a clutch as it handles heat and pressure really well

Love these videos!

Great experiment and clever workmanship in constructing the clutch components. Now I would love to own an old Lada motor car, seems to be an easily serviceable vehicle and very robust. Greetings from central Australia!

wow, that worked better than i had expected

That lada playing the one tyre fire trick was worth the clutch.

i say lets do a retry only this time machine the ceramic a little thinner put the smooth side facing the flywheel and the pressure plate. the pressure from the pressure plate should me more than enough to grip (using a new one of course) by doing this i believe you will get grip around the entire surface of the fly wheel and not just in spots also make sure you use the proper adhesive /nice to see the three ring pistons are still running strong great video guys

Reading Berkshire in the u.k. has a car workshop called garage 34 ,with identical graphics,congratulations you are now so famous people are copying you thousands of miles away.

for the other disks try to rivet them properly and then machine them so they are perfectly flat I recon you need CBN or diamond inserts for that alternative would be to mount the angle grinder to the tailstock and machine it like that.

you guys are crazy - thanks for the entertainment.

the blue patches are hot spots from over heating the not worn in clutch, like you said it is not full contact yet so it overheats in the small contact patches until it wears in. also you glued the tiles on the smooth side which has dye and a layer of glazing, you should have removed that layer and glued direct to the ceramic.

The dark spots are called hard spots. Inconsistency in the casting allows for uneven heating and if it gets hot enough, it tempers the iron in that spot.

You guys are AWESOME!!!

This video hurt me as my mini is in the shop getting its clutch replaced 😂

HAHAHA Nice guys! you always impress with your creativity. LOL

Robohut is right. They do have high heat adhesive. But that’s a pretty cool idea. I Love what Garage54 does with experimenting with different types of materials and objects.

Awesome job guys,the experiment wasn't bad,

Decorative side out and cut grooves to assist the bite, you don't need half the surface area with a ceramic clutch so you could try 4 or 6 pad like pucks instead

wow not bad . You need a more solid metal disc to put the ceramic onto that wont flex. Thats why it burst. also some kind of lower surface around it for a clamp ring would help it stay together better , just around the edge of it.

Love this channel, I'm sure Fred dibnah would have loved it too, right up his street lol

Take the holed tiles and build another clutch with smooth out. Also sand down the rough side before assembly to make sure the disc will be flat. As shown the spots are the high point that are making contact.

The one with wood disk and wood break pads was an awesome one too.

Ceramic clutch discs usually have multiple separate pads attached to a backing plate, It's just too rigid with a solid ceramic surface. If you look at the backing plate you used, the six wings and all the grooves machined in it makes it flexible, and the stock friction material will also flex, allowing it to conform to the pressure plate and flywheel evenly. But it was interesting to see the results. Curious to see if it would work better by making 3 pads, and attach them to the three wings that have the rivets attaching them to the center plate, and cut the three remaining wings off.

Fantastic video

dark spots are due to clutch release. when placing the piece on the lathe with a dial gauge it is not possible to go wrong unless the piece is undertightened. if the turning is wrong you can see entire areas turned and others not because the piece has turned diagonally.

Awesome video keep it up guys

FINALLY, proper aspect ratio.

The young guy had to show Vlad how the cow ate the cabbage this time, lol, great video guys, and thanks for sharing.

Just discovering your channel. This is shade tree mechanics at its best!

I wonder how brass brake pads 🤔 would work on a car 🚗

Universal lesson: NEVER listen to the young guy who says "Let me drive!"

Love this channel

I didn't think the ceramic tile was going to hold up at all. Damn good video!

it is midnight here in SOUTH AFRICA and i just woke up to see this...............................

I daily drive a car with a ceramic clutch. Getting stuck in traffic is the worst. The clutch grips more and more the hotter it gets and it gets harder to drive off without spinning the wheels.

What a cute little clutch

i have a serious good idea for the high compression engine i saw your video trying to make a lada engine run on single injection. You could make it multipoint injection and normal driveable using parts from an opel c14se or c16se engine found in astra's and corsa's from early '90's They dont have so much sensors and no startbreaker chip so easy to wire up. Its even possible to make individual throttle bodies for extra power. Parts you need: ECU + engine wiring + sensors + crankshaft pulley for ignition timing and the ignition itself Intake manifold with injectors fuel rail and so Fuel pump witch is found inside the tank I have an opel astra sportive 1.6 Si from 1993 with an c16se engine as a hobby and goes a bit over 100hp if you have questions just ask no, you wont get my car😂

love you guys

My guess about the spots on the pressure plate is that localized spots on the clutch disc get very hot during abuse, then, once the clutch is fully engaged the hot spot on the disk will be locked to one spot on the plate, and heat it, causing it to blue, like that.

It could be the material behind it or inside the first spot material to heat up will expand quicker and make the rest of it cooler because it has less pressure on it

These guys have my dream job.

Guy in video: "when the glue got hot, it let go." Other guy in literally the next scene: Glues clutch disks on