Nah it's not that had my guy 😂😂😂

Just say you wasnt around for the "golden era" lmao... Even I wish Lucid was around for MLG so his talents arent so wasted....​Scrimms with teams like Carbon hit SO different@504Trey

@@terrencepoinsett4169 I’ve been playing Halo since 2001

@@504TreyIt is that bad. It’s been that bad since Halo 4, any fan that’s been around when Halo was peak will tell you that

​​@@proggz39lol ikr, try n play comp on the newest xbox, it's such a joke. Litteratly playing the native system to lose😂 oh and crossplay? Ehhh deal with it bubba, it's not that big of a diffrence ahaha made a pc player who did pretty well vs me hop on his console, buddy couldnt drop a 1.0 and we weren't even playing pc players. He got gunned by players with the same advantage. Weird.

Nobody should pretend that 343 has a perfect track record but people also way over exaggerate how bad they have been.

@@R17759 Very true. People are overly critical, but I think it comes from a point of perspective. Everyone knows how good infinite can be, which makes it so much harder when it’s not that.

You’re exactly the person he’s talking about. You’re being overly critical. You talk like 343 is one single person and that as a company their whole goal is to destroy the franchise. Adjust your perspective

It’s easy to point all fingers at 343 but let’s not forget Microsoft is also responsible for some of these decisions. If anything they probably forced 343 to start working less on infinite and get whatever new project going asap

@@cesarmarines5381 Honestly I think the word on the street is that 343 actually does care, but Microsoft is calling the shots. I have no idea why they would not want to maintain their legacy and reputation with one of their greatest franchises, and one of gaming’s greatest all time franchises.

I dont think most people agree with you. The sandbox is awful, mainly because every gun is effective at medium range, whereas in the original games you had to be more mindful of what weapons to use in different circumstances.

@@gruntledabhoredwrong

@@EddieFreak Hes right. Infinites sandbox is the worst in the entire series.

@@reduxforerunner6664 disagree it’s pretty fun

The game is doomed to suck, 5 was better.

Tbh, while 343 *tremendously* dropped the ball for seasons 1-2, a lot of people hold a lot of weight in uploads by you, The Act Man, etc. on whether Infinite was worth coming back to. The game was getting regular updates well before your channels gave the recommendation to revisit. And now 343 has moved on because by their own slow time to correct their failures and the poor rep it received from longtime Halo content creators, it never recovered. I played the game continually from S1, and thought that from mid S3 onwards things were going well up till relatively recently. But all the way through, I read the comments and watched the KZfaq videos. Our fanbase never stopped complaining. Not disagreeing with Lucid's points here whatsoever. I just don't really know how 343 could possibly pull a W at Infinite at this point. The gaping wound of 1-2 content drought took way too long, and in its entire lifecycle fans are all complaining about what needs to be in Infinite even in instances where the sandbox or content update would be redundant or contradictory to what 343 already provided / was working on. I'm sad that 343 is moving on. Hope that whatever the next installment is doesn't leave such a bad taste in peoples' mouths.

@@mhm35 dear god the mental anguish you must’ve experienced by not quitting infinite throughout season 1-3 jeez a majority of people just aren’t masochistic enough to do that though I promise you if we didn’t get the “complainey” videos from people like the act man and hidden we’d still be stuck with the old leadership it’s entirely unfair to say these channels had a negative impact when all they were really doing is giving a voice to all the people who felt some type of way about infinite. The game sucked major donkey balls at launch and is barely at a place where a majority of people would’ve been happy with it had it launched as is today 2 whole years after its actual launch it’s sad to see infinite go down this way but that’s entirely on Microsoft and 343 and not the community that’s keeping it alive without hidden or the act man the interest in halo would be so much lower than it currently is those channels are places for lore nerds and people that still love halo to congregate and vent and feel heard they’re the true unsung heroes that and forgers who’s talents are going to waste. And for the record infinite didn’t start getting “better” till season 4

the thing that made halo 1, 2, 3, and reach great was not “content”.

​@@Wonderbrut Agree entirely, same as the other guy Ived played since s1 (including flights). I was so damn excited for Halo Infinite so I kept up hope that the game would get better. But update after update, Ive just chalked them up to be cosmetic updates because thats all ever been added to the game at this point. The forge aspect of the game is amazing all things considered but I wish the vanilla side of the game had the same treatment. Wehad the Falcon & the gravity shotgun stuck in the files for a while (2 years at this point) so when are those gonna be released? Even then 1 new vehicle & weapon is not even close to being enough content. Sure we got a few new equipment & the DMR & then a DMR with a scope with no bloom (a joke at this point), but the MP is entirely barebones & stuck the way it was at launch. The same weapons & vehicles (even gamemodes) since day 1. The new modes like infection, extraction, etc are great, but we need more to feel fresh, wheres assault? Wheres vip? Wheres griftball for crying out loud. So many things to add & in 3 damn years 343 has neglected almost every gameplay aspect of Halo & said "Heres a free but bare minumum 20 tier event pass, but we have new armor to add into our shop! Please buy!" Alongside with very small sandbox changes that shouldve been considered a long time ago, like the EMP effect for the plasma pistol, to this day I cannot fathom why they took that away from launch its so stupid. Then we got the ranked side of things, being an Onyx player every season, it really is frustrating with the hidden MMR, plus now the Ping spikes are back making the game unplayable in a competitive setting or even just chilling in social. Plus in Ranked it desperately needs new maps, a change of sandbox, or heck maybe new modes something to spice it up like Lucid said since we've basically been playing the same thing since october With all things considered, 343 has really fumbled the ball hard with the state the game is in, it is in a good spot. They just need to move it up & get some things on the table. New weapons, new vehicles, new equipment, heck bring back the MP story because that was getting interesting, stop turning halo infinite into a cashcow with all these cosmetic updates. Its really annoying how theres nothing to add to Halo Infinite asides from the new armor you need to spend $50 on

* infinite amount of time.

at its best? The game is poor. tbh

They dont even support lvt...

This game is dead what are you even talking about???😂😂😂

The game is an absolute joke right now. The new network model is terrible, i get more blanks now than ever. Ping spikes are back, 343 has somehow managed to make the best halo game ever but failed to make the game function online, all while releasing hardly any content since launch compared to any other game

Pros killed halo I want ranked with vehicles still available etc FUN matters

I mean would that rly get you off of MCC? :P Much love❤

Esports are partly why barely anyone cares about Halo anymore. Esports was never the focus of Halo until 343i came into the picture. Thinking anything else is clown behavior.

Indeed. Honestly....the HCS/competitive has always been the only reason I play Halo. Obviously other people play it for other things, and in that regard Infinite's lacking quite a bit. But outside of HCS......Halo is kind of just a generic scifi shooter that's mediocre at best in my opinion. As a eSport though.....Halo's WAY more fun to watch and play than any other FPS.

​​@@cvvquoellHalo created MLG and started dying after how trash Reach was which was also the cause of Halo getting removed from MLG.

@@cvvquoell Yeah, the hard focus on competitive play killed the game and relegated it to only the esports crowd. It strangled the sandbox, distilling it down to a boring, repetitive meta that made it less of the fun party game that Halo 3 was.

Ironically, HCS and Esport is what has been KILLING Halo all these years, 343s focus on competitive absolutely ruins the game from an enjoyment and gameplay perspective for the vast majority of the community, this includes making vehicles limited and useless because they don't fit 343s competitive only vision, as well as removing aliens, and not implementing assassinations, making competitive tailored changes like when that crybaby Sparty cried about the Mangler could kill quick, and then 343 made a global change instead of just a competitive change ruining a fun weapon in pubs, as in 99% of the game. Halo has always been a fun sandbox game, the competitive aspect came purely from the popularity of Halo at the time, not by a competitive design.

lol, the matchmaking system is as rigged as COD's , good luck.

Onyx is hard now. Cheaters and the matchmaking force people to lose so the population of diamond doesn't get too low. If you can win 60+% of your games with the casinos odds against you then enjoy

​@@r.d.9399I've heard that the recent update made cheating issues way better, I'm no where near as good of a player to get onyx tho, anyone that can confirm that?

@@Voxet1 They changed to the cheat detection that is used on Halo MCC. It is much worse now but only at higher ranks. I was Onyx in H5. Played a few games and they put me in Silver. Worked up to Plat 3 easily but found the desync, lag compensation, ghost bullets and cheaters to be not worth the time playing.

good luck finding a game

The "forge" remakes were added because 343 Industries was not making developer maps, due to the "Halo Community" (not pros, the community that thinks halo is not a competitive game) claiming that 343 should not make maps, 'but the community' should. In all honesty, I understand that frustration -- They chose a map that is entirely grey in thematic design, without any conceptual idea of just utilizing a different color, and in a way that, without understanding how to be artistic without "bloating" the environment -- makes the game feel boring. Beyond that, it is a remake of a map from the previous title, which wasn't even a fan favorite, but just a default map of a game with subpar maps. I'd argue Colosseum would have been a better choice, yet The Rig was chosen primarily because it's not a 3-lane map. "What i dont get is why they cant fix all the smaller stuff to iron out the game" This is, primarily, because the Halo Community (not the 'competitive' community, the community that gravitates toward MintBlitz being the best player in the world, and thinks Halo was Mario Party for the Xbox) has minimal understanding of what is important and is not. Since 343 Industries, once again, listened solely to this niche community, who now has "more audience" (on youtube), but none of it translates to "real world players", we're in this spot again, where almost nothing was changed to provide basic updates to the game. The "community" focused on armor, cross-core, customization of the player, the cost of the store (lol), the battle pass, the "social" aspect of party, the "party" aspect of social, the semantics between the two, the "over-competitive structure of weapons" and primarily that "the gravity doesn't work on items that never had gravity". Out of 32 specified large scale updates, 29 of them were dedicated, solely, to audience members of ActMan, MintBlitz, HiddenXperia, or whoever breaths the same breath of thought. Almost none of them were geared toward actual players -- these audience members never were going to be "players". And that's 343's largest problem: They never understood who was their audience. They literally are hiring for an individual to force them to only focus on the specified audience of the game, rather than "assumed" audiences based on "community feedback". Guess why the shop prices are $20 each? Because someone has to pay the price for the labor required to make full on multi-faceted modular Character Models with higher end textures than even a generic RPG of today. Meanwhile, people live in a fantasy realm, and do not comprehend that "If a product doesn't sell, it goes up in price" because they're trying to recoup the cost of production. In this case, it may have costed 343 Industries $10,000 USD per piece to create and they know that they may not ever get that money back in labor, so they're trying to at least get it back to break even on these investments. Meanwhile, the Masterchief armor kit sells rapidly with no problem, almost like people care about "Halo" instead of "Whatever one of the hundred books describe as a character". To be honest here, these are the items that matter: - Matchmaking (sbmm functioning as "skill" based matchmaking) - Ranked matchmaking (the inherent creation of Halo 2 and Halo 3) - Removing cheaters/robust anti-cheat - Not promoting cheating as "fun" (what the community keeps doing by pretending that there needs to be 'mod allowed playlists' if they make anticheat too good) - Pushing "progression" to either be solely ranked, or intertwined into ranked (Like Halo 2 and Halo 3) - Meta changes to express unique formula adaptations or vast changes to gameplay to provide fresh feelings every year - New Developer-Only Maps - Consolidate all Social into a singular playlist per selection (Like Halo 2 & Halo 3), not 18. - Expand Ranked Matchmaking (point #2) - A adjusted focus for customization on weapons, instead of players (ala battle pass of weapon customization like other FPS games) - A balance akin to Halo 1 - Halo 3 What does not matter, and never mattered: - Player model customization - Lore accuracies in matchmaking - "cross core" anything; No one truly cares that deeply about an FPS. Any FPS. If no FPS does this, why should Halo focus on this? - Having "armor" as anything, at all, regarding gameplay or accommodations Etc. To answer the simple question of "How is sword not in comp play", that's because, instead of creating maps that the sword could ideally not be overpowered in -- they simply ignored that and removed it so they didn't have to get scrutiny for making "more competitive maps". The Halo Community in 2022 already was dead set on telling 343 to "stop making maps" and to "let the community make maps" with mid 2022 - 2024 all claiming "Halo was never competitive and competitive ruined Halo". The only reason it's not in competitive, is solely because the Halo Community wouldn't just let the game be Halo. Meanwhile, the only way to balance sword on something like Recharge was to remove it. There's a reason "Sword" was okay on Lockout or even midships. That's because they're open, have very little areas to "play hide and seek" (while maintaining control), and have almost no trade function when they do. Halo Infinites trade function was changed to provide sword "less" capability of trade, much like the hammer, so that the 'bad player who gets caught off guard with sword' still wins, despite it originally providing a trade. The sky is the limit, I agree. But that limitation should be in the bounds of Halo, defined by Halo 1 - Halo 3. Not Halo "Defined by Halo reach and Halo 4, and have stipulations followed by a casual community that hated Halo's design intention and balance".

It truely was, give MCC a go they do regular discounts so be sure to check it out

The MCC is there so you can play that. The older games are still great but they are much slower than infinite is.

Halo Infinite is amazing, the old games were too, but some people are so stuck on nostalgia they cant see that infinite is a great game.

Infinite MP is not even close to H2 and H3, Reach...Like far far worst than the originals from Bungie.

@@3DModelsToysFar worse? That’s a bit excessive.

Same bro.

I believe that. At the same time, 343 needs to set solid expectations for the future of current games and games being made. Ending Seasons for Operations wasn't all bad, but the Spartan Points update feels like the soft death of Halo Infinite. They need to DO more. If they can't make stuff, they should lean heavy into the forgers. Pay the forgers, promote their maps, make forge events, videos, showcases, etc. 343 is just too rigid to the point of becoming stale in their strategies. They have all the right pieces for a great Halo live service, it was just coming together this last February. They fumbled by not bringing new weapons, modes, or events. Gruntpocalypse was cool and I really enjoyed it, but then it rotates out and it feels like we're back at where we were before. They just need to add more to the PLAYLISTS MENU. Maybe they know that, the engine can't do it, and that's why they are stepping back to focus on an Unreal engine game.

covid cant be used as an excuse anymore. Plenty of gaming companies made successful updates to games during and after covid. 343 is just incompetent.

And it will crash, burn, fail and die like their last 4 games (H4, MCC, H5 and now Infinite).

Imo they designed this game not to be a live service from the start then towards the end the execs forced live service because they saw how much money live service games were making. This game was never designed to be getting consistent updates its very clear. If they want to give up on this game they should start paying forgers to release solid maps into playlists while keeping a smaller skeleton crew to run the game. As long as the next game if they want to be live service is designed to be easy to modify and update because im with you, i think infinites funadmental design is fun, it feels like the proper next step for the halo IP, maybe the comp guys will say H5 was better for comp and thats fine but halo5 didnt look or really feel like a halo game, infinite 100% feels like halo so i will almost always defend infinite simply because of this, the downfall of infinite was the greedy higher ups forcing live service when the game was never designed to be updated every few weeks.

@@TheHollowBlade I don’t disagree with you on that, the live service aspect killed it completely but I would certainly hope the next one is not live service

Man I am so glad someone else talked about the lack of Warzone at launch, like HOW? How on earth did we go from having it to not having it?

@@DaviDeXtA I truly don’t know man, Warzone is one of the reasons why I still play Halo 5 and why I’ve played it as much as I have. 35 days play time on it and Warzone is a big factor for it.

Agree completely. Infinite is the only game for me post Halo 3 where the core moment to moment gameplay felt good and like a "Halo game" out of the box. But it was so content dry the first year that it didn't matter. And not having a Warzone or similar PVPVE game type was a huge missed opportunity. Halo 5 Warzone was the best thing to happen to casual Halo in the last decade. And now that we have Forge AI they could easily do it and it baffles me they won't bother to add it (or a bunch of other 99 percent finished content).

"The goal of Halo 2’s level system is first and foremost to help you find the most enjoyable games possible. Games that are neck and neck, where the only sure way to win is by playing above your abilities, be it through better planning, more focus, improved team communication, whatever. But it’s fun to not be so serious all the time. That’s what custom games are for, or the Training Grounds playlist if you don’t have enough Friends online to form a custom game. But we believe that games that challenge you to rise above your current abilities are the most enjoyable and the most rewarding." - Bungie 2004 - 2010. Now imagine if Halo Infinite had more than one ranked playlist, focused around it as a primary subset of progression, and provided this credence as the intention to play the matchmaking. Almost like, you know, that's the content that was originally wanted at launch --and subsequent post-content was suppose to be developer maps, adjusted power weapons, meta shifts to change the skill designations, and permit the attribute of learning something new every big meta change, rather than "same thing but the flag moved 5 feet".

Yeah we haven't had a single content complete Halo game with the series's traditions intact since Reach. That's 14 years ago. I think that's ultimately what 343i's most crucial mistake has been every single time. Just not having a Halo game be complete.

@@whisperedflame6952I feel that Halo 4 and 5 both had plenty of content. warzone mode in 5 was great.

He gets paid six figures to play the game you weapon

with that said 343 is like the abusive partner in a relationship and us the halo fans are the abused hoping that one day (343) will change but every single day they do nothing to change lol

I'm joking, but it really still feels like the game is pre release. These things, as you said, are standard for other live service games. And this game does not live without it's live service promise component. They are playing us for fools. Hopefully it's the straw that broke the cammel's back now and we can have new leadership.

I mean a totally different outlook than 343's. I know we just switched.