No matter the return, it's sure a heck of a lot more than the nothing the Flames got for Gaudreau.

Kuzzy Kuzzy the one and only. Such an amazing character. He will be missed

Kuzmenko makes brilliant plays. Not just the goals but some of his assists have been unreal!

this is one of the better takes on the trade for me as a Canucks fan its a win win. Canucks are selling high on Hunter B and if he can fix his defensive side of his game Flames have a NHL caliber player. we won't know how well this plays out for Vancouver for at least a few months and for the Flames it will be a few years.

As a flames fan I think both teams did well on this trade. Lindholm has been my favourite player since he got here and I am going to miss him. He was having an off year but he is far from done and is going to be super motivated to make the most of this cup run and upping his new contract value. I am happy for him and wish him well. Looking forward to see what happens with our returns and hope Conroy is just getting started.

Win-win. Calgary gets a huge return for a pending UFA. For Vancouver, got the best centre on the market, didn't give up willander silovs or lekkerimakki, didnt have to give up anyone in Abbotsford and cleared up $5.5m in extension dollars for hronek, petterrson and Lindholm.

Mark Stone is a more recent 6th round pick and last year's Stanley Cup winning captain.

Loved Lindy. But, he was not going to stay. Plus, I am very intrigued about the idea of moving Sharky to centre and playing Kuzy with him and Huby... I think part of this trade was to see about getting someone else who may find chemistry with the Huby.

Good trade. We have to pay OEL's piper starting next year, plus big raises for EP40 and Hronek, so time to go for it. We held on to Hoggy, Lekkeramaki, and Willander, came out a bit ahead in salary cap, and got a return on Kuzzy who was never going to fit under Tocchet.

Honestly glad Kenny Holland didn’t go for it because the price is way too high for a forward we don’t need. I gotta say though Vancouver may actually win Game 7 if they make it to the Cup Finals this year, I will be cheering for all Canadian teams in the playoffs

Think it's a good deal for both teams. I do think the flames got more than I expected, and as a flames fan I'm excited

A great analysis of the trade. I am still pretty mixed on this trade as a longtime Canucks fan. While I love the prospects of the Canucks with Lindholm in the lineup, I am wondering if the Canucks gave up too much for what may only be a short-term rental. They say the sign of a good trade is when both sides are left reeling wondering wtf. This trade certainly meets that criteria. Much love, respect, and best wishes to Kuzmenko in his hockey future with Calgary for his positivity and positive contributions to the Canucks during their tumultuous last season.

Great video! Miles better than anything our "national sports network" TSN has to offer so far on this subject.

Calgary can still build value again in kuzmenko and flip in future. As for wpg I hope we get either Tanev or Jenner Even if it costs Lucius or Chibriikov+1st/2nd+Gustafson/prospect Depends on return I'd even consider moving Lambert if it means keeping Barlow/Mcgroarty/Salmonsson/Heinola. As for depth guys try trading Stanley for either Seeler or Tinordi Maybe won't cost much for Megna in Chicago also since we lost Chisholm waivers

Win-Win. -Kuzemenko was viewed as a NEGATIVE ASSET against the Cap. -How many 28th overall picks become impact NHLers? You tell me. -How many "He's doing well in the OHL" kids become impact NHL D? You tell me. -Canucks gain 5.5 in Cap Flex NEXT year. -Canucks likely made Petey happy THIS year. -Lindholm #2 in Selke votes in 2022, clearly the Nucks upgraded their roster here.

You can put me solidly in the overpay camp, but as you said, if we make the final or win the cup, it will have all been worth it. If we go out in the first round, and Lindholm walks, then this deal f**king sucks!

As a Flames fan, Im thrilled about the return, but also wary about it since I felt the same way about the Tkachuk trade after it happened.

As a Canucks fan while the price here is definitely a steep one I am still think it's a win win for both teams. Calgary gets draft picks, including a first round pick and prospects and a guy in Kuzmenko who did have 39 goals last year for a guy in Lindholm who wasn't going to stay in Calgary. So Calgary gets off to a solid start in their rebuild or retool. As for Vancouver they get what they were looking for. Which is a top six forward that can play both center and on the wing. I think Lindholm will most like play alongside Pettersson and be the center while Pettersson moves to the wing. So overall I think both teams did well here.

Incoming Pettersson re-sign with this next year cap space freed up

WIN , Win ! Good Defense centers are hard to find.

Great move by both sides. Flames got a young player who can get them another 1st at the deadline and they got a bunch of fun and exciting young prospects. On the canucks side u don’t trade that much without knowing this guys signing long term. I’ll be shocked if they don’t lock him up to a 8x8 or some deal of that sort

Good trade. As a Flames fan I think it’s win-win. Lindholm wasn’t effective and wasn’t sticking around, but could rebound in the right environment. Calgary is in what I would call a soft-rebuild. So many young players coming up and making a difference. I do feel like we are light on senior leadership but as long as we retain or acquire some good veteran talent to guide the young’uns this could be a competitive team in a few years.

As a Flames fan I’m very happy with this trade. I’m glad Lindholm gets a shot with a good team and I think we got a nice return for him, considering nothing was a real possibility.

Lindholm will thrive with petey! Best of luck to canucks on pushing for a cup. Our year will come soon again 🔥 as for kuzzy I’m excited to see him play

this is a good trade for both teams. Lindholm is good center depth and allows petey to move to the wing. The flames get someone who you can pair beside huberdeau and some picks they gave up not to much imo. The canucks also have better prospects so i really like this as a canucks fan

also with the cap space moved from kuzy salary cuz he was just signed we could try to get him (lindholm) for cheap

I think from a Canucks perspective. This is an over payment for a rental, but this makes the Canucks honestly one of the best top contenders in the NHL. And there is no reason that perhaps he will walk, if he thinks this team is ready to go he could resign for a more affordable deal. The first rounder, hopefully it's 32nd overall ;) Hunter was rumored to not want to be in the Canucks organization, and there was a big reason he dropped to the 3rd round. He has big enough weaknesses in his game. He's young, but we sold high on him. Jurmo was never really going to make a difference in the next year or 2 for the Canucks organization, and he has enough value the Canucks figure they can live with moving him. And Kuzmenko was not working in this system. He needed a change, and I think he'll do well in a Flames uni. And one thing a lot of people are not talking about in this deal, which I think is a large reason why the price tag seems so high. Kuzmenko makes 5.5m on the cap NEXT season, we don't have to pay that anymore. We got 5.5m in extra cap for 24/25 to work with, sign Petey, Hronek, Zadorov, Lindholm. The world is our oyster.

Sad to see Kuzy go, suck a great guy.

Kuzmenko is a very skilled, fast and creative player and just loves scoring. That's all he really wants. He has incredible hands and vision. If given a big enough kitchen to cook, he can be very impressive and fun to watch. But Tocchet doesn't coach like that and he was constantly on his case to prioritize systems and forechecking and it just wasn't working. I really liked him and I hope Calgary is a better fit for his style.

This shows me the flames management is accepting its rebuild time. Its good.

As a nucks fan not loving that Hunter was a piece in this deal, but hey 30+ games with what I would expect is a very motivated Lindholm should be good to great. Conroy absolutely needed to come out of this deal looking like a win and I think he did. Good on both teams.

great news for habs! love the trade deadline always fun times

With you Johnny…

Win for both. Take care of Kuzy flames, he's a gem.

Kuzmenko can be a master with the puck. Finisher and underrated passing skills as well. This was a down year/sophomore slump type deal but also he had the shortest leash from coach Tocchett, hence he was scared to play because he didn’t want to be benched. We’re going to miss him in Van city, he was one of the fan favourites and a very likeable guy. I think he’ll do well with a new coach and new rank among forwards. On paper, yes it’s hard to argue against Calgary winning this trade. They got a haul indeed. But Vancouvers end goal is something Canucks need to go for

Cowtown is just like Bali Kuzzy. Tocchet and Rutherford added a great piece to a their top six. Working hard to be competitive starts at the top

Vancouver should have kept the course with the roster they had. 33-11-5. 1st overall. If it ain't broken, don't try to fix it. This could easily backfire and disrupt the chemistry of the team. Kind of like Meier in NJ. They also gave up way too much in my opinion.

Huge trade

I'm sorry but the risk is all on Vancouver and the Flames essentially lose nothing since Lindholm likely wasn't re-signing with them. I see it as a flames fleece even if Kuzy doesn't turn things around. Can't wait to see what Montreal gets for Monahan now

Hunter B also was never going to get on the PP as long as Quinn was in Vancouver. Maybe 2nd unit, but even then he has to beat out Hronek for that spot, who is still only 26. Van didn't really have any room for another offensive D-man.

What is overlooked by all the Flames fans saying they got way more than they thought for this guy, is the fact the Canucks clear up 5.5M in cap space this year AND next. That makes it a huge win for them even if Elias walks in the summer.

With Elias Lindholm, Vancouver got a valuable player who fits their needs, while Calgary avoided watching another valuable UFA walk into the sunset come the off-season. A multiple asset return gives the Flames' organization a lot to work with now and over the next few years. I'm leaning towards thinking that Calgary won this trade but only time and how useful those incoming assets are will tell the full story. Meanwhile, if Lindholm is an integral part of a long Canuck's playoff run, the pendulum swings back towards Vancouver winning this trade. Considering that this is new GM Craig Conroy's first major deal and it dealt with the potential loss of a UFA for nothing, I think he did very well.

"Patrik All-in" Lindholm is a two time Selke nominated player and is much more complete than Kuzy. I don't think Kuzy, even if he found his offense again was ever going to truly fit into Toc's system. With the re-emergence of Boeser, we have plenty of scoring. We got another two way, right handed forward with experience and offensive ability. Jurmo will never see NHL ice, 4th round pick is irrelevant, Brus is a third round pick who's having a great year but statistically unlikely to play major NHL minutes or games, so really it's Kuzy and a LATE 1st. Chances of getting an impact player after the first 15 or so picks is unlikely. This is a good trade and immediate makes the team better and more complete Prospects like Willander and Pettersson are more likely to make the team than Brus which makes him expendable. Don't forget the names Sawyer Mynio and Kirill Kudryavtsev as D prospect to watch.

That return seems pretty good. I’ve heard nothing but good things about that Hunter kid. The 1st is solid and Kuzmenko can score 30 any year. I don’t think it’s an over pay or under pay, I think it’s is fair

I've gotten to watch Hunter Brzutewicz in real life and the guy is incredible. Head and shoulders above his OHL competition. I am excited to see what he can do against grown men.

As an Avs fan, I’m a bit sad, but not surprised, since we didn’t have guys Sakic was really willing to trade for what they could turn into, compared to Lindholm, example Bryam

I was surprised how much Vancouver gave up for Lindholm but you’re right that if Lindholm helps them this year and better yet if they can resign him then it’s a win for them as well, even giving up what they did.

Good deal both ways, Canucks get stronger now and Flames bet on getting stronger later

I think Vancouver is still a very young team with minimal playoff experience, although they are absolutely killing it this year they still need to learn playoff hockey, it’s two completely different games in my opinion. For example The Penguins in their prime had trouble getting to the finals after their 2009 win over Detroit. It was 7 long years of disappointment until they won back to back in 2016 & 2017 even the best in hockey still had to learn playoff hockey. Im not doubting Vancouver but I’m not saying they’ll be cup contenders either. Boston last year is a great example of that. I’m rooting for all Canadian teams this year after the Oilers of course.

At first glance it looks like a win win

I think its good that kuzmenko signed off the no trade clause to be here. Hes got achip on his shoulder now . something to prove to van that it was a bad idea to trade him. Hope he lights it up for the flames

1:17 Yeah, see I was initially a bit shocked at what the Canucks gave up for one player who wasn't even leading their team in scoring, but then I thought about where the Flames are sitting in actual scoring. They have no players who are a point per game, and the only player who is even close is Coleman. On the Canucks (as of Feb 1st), Coleman would be 4th in goals and 5th in points if he were on the Canucks roster. And Huberdeau is still embarrassingly way down their scoring list. There's a guy who probably misses his previous team... I also had to pause to consider where that 1st round pick would be.. Might as well be called a second round pick the way things are going in Vancouver. Kuzmenko was clearly never going to understand what Tocchet wanted out of him. Most of his success came under Boudreau, whose coaching style was much different. Yes, he kept scoring under Tocchet last season, but that was before the new system truly got locked in place. A change of coaches will probably be good for him. And on a team with less scoring depth, he might find himself having fun again. Meanwhile Lindholm will be surrounded by superior talent and as mentioned early in the video, he tends to thrive with a good crew around him. Good for Pius Suter as well, because now he can steadily help drive that 3rd line with Garland and Joshua. Tocchet has been trying to roll four lines and this will really help. Glad they didn't give up Hoglander as well, because I don't think he has peaked yet. 1:53 Exactly. He's probably going to have fun in Calgary and forget all about that no-trade list. Heck, he might even want to say, if he's thriving. As a Canucks fan, obviously I want the Canucks to win this trade, but if the trade means a stronger top six and more success, fine. My biggest worry is that Hunter DOESN'T top out as a career AHLer.. lol. 2:26 Red Wings have a bit of a history of great drafting though. I say we let this trade play itself out for a while before judging. There are a lot of moving parts involved. To hell with the trade deadline, right Patrik? It's go time. lol (great video btw)

Canucks won big because they didn't have to give up players like Podkolzin, Lekkerimaki or Willander. ONE of these players had to go over to Calgary and they didn't get one of them. For you Calgary fans I would be disappointed, this should of been doable since the Canucks were all in. Its amazing the Canucks were able to keep these guys.

Great trade for the flames, especially when that 1st round pick ends up a bit higher after Vancouvers 1st round exit, hilarious overpay by vanloser

Back here after Lindholm OT Winner vs NSH.

Kuzmenko the first and that bruczewicz guy are huge returns the 3rd and jurmo are just adds. Lindholm isn't what people think he is.

Sounds like a buncha flames sour grapes in the comments.😂 but Calgary did get a really good deal here if kuzi gets back on his game,he’s a very good player. Who knows about the draft picks,but it looks good for both teams at this point.

Hunter OHL d=man is the only really dangerous part of this trade--don't think he's a Hughes or Makar but that's the risk.No matter what the Canucks got the exact guy they needed so one would expect a little bit of extra sauce going Calgary's way.As well Conroy (who was always a classy dude) is impressing me and even as a Canucks fan I wish the Flames Jets Sens well .Let's go Canucks 4th time lucky

I like the trade. Let´s you know what Vancouver thinks of their chances to go deep in the playoffs. The thing I question is giving up so much for someone who will probably end up a rental.

Honestly we can add Zadorov to that trade tree tbh. Its even thru both trades

Remember what the Sedins and Luongo brought to the playoffs? Nothing. It was the grinding defense and forecheckers who took Vancouver to the finals. The rest of the season doesn't matter. Would have taken Hanifin any day.

Kuzmenko, Brzustewicz and a 1st round pick is very good, Calgary got good value.

I like the trade for Calgary, Nucks only win the trade if they win the cup this year

It's an over pay for a rental. but it might be a solid fallback position in the event Pettersen pulls a won't budge attitude and has to be traded next season

This is a win on both sides. Van: gets a top 6 guy who makes them better right now. As a Vegas fan, van is pretty good. I didn’t think barbashev would make a huge difference and looked what happened. Only way it turns bad is if lindholm is shit. Calgary wins regardless cause that’s the best return you could’ve gotten from a player who was no longer in there future plans

As a Nucks fan, it’s a win/win. Kuzmenko and the assets were providing basically zero value to the Canucks current roster. So they basically trade no value for immediate value by filling their greatest need. That said, if they don’t resign Lindholm, the flames win it for sure.

Kuzmenko had very little playoff experience & bad defending during a powerplay. He was surrounded by good players but wasn't performing well. *On the other hand* Lindholm has playoff experience & great on the powerplay, also the fact that he has only 9 goals this season is ONLY because he plays with a crap Cal-gay-ry team.

Now they need to ship out Hani,Marky, Kadri and Hubi. The last two are probably impossible right now, but the Flames need to get rid of everyone over 26. Ship them out for prospects and picks and bottom out for the next few years.

Are we not gonna talk about how I predicted this exact trade on your last video

The winning team in all of this? The Winnipeg Jets assuming Monahan stays healthy. (I'm a Habs fan, and I'm not angry with what the team got in return for Monahan, and I'll admit that Monahan may be more of a risk, but I think that the reward could be higher if all goes well...one thing for sure, the Jets paid less.) I honestly think that Gorton/Hugues got the offer that they were hoping for in the beginning and went with it instead of trying to start a biding war. Good for all teams involved (except the rest of the season is seriously going to suck for MTL, but hey...that's what we signed up for.....I'm getting close to the point where I might start to lose interest lol.......nah who am I kidding, but still)

I think it was a fair trade, the main thing is Conroy didn't get finessed, and they got an NHL guy who can score goals, a couple of prospects, and a couple of picks, you can't expect anything more

I didn't like seeing Kuzmenko on there, think he's gonna bounce back, BUT Lindholm was gonna take a spot on the roster somewhere anyway, so it's better than keeping him on the bench.

It’s alot to give up. But it’s about right for a win now type of trade. In a normal situation it’s way overpaid. But Vancouver got what they were trying to get for a playoff run.

Funny thing is Lindholm never said he didn’t want to or wasn’t going to resign in Calgary. He loves it there.

I think it's a win win, as it stands now.

The trade tree on the Dougie Hamilton deal is going to be longer than Lindros to Philli if Conroy can get another boatload for Hanifin. 😂

I think a lot of people look at the return and think the Canucks overpaid, but this is a lot of quality over quantity. Brzustewicz is the main piece, but after that, it's a late first, Jurmo who, with all due respect, is a bust, and a conditional 4th. Paying that for Lindholm and to dump the last year of Kuzmenko's deal is a bargain.

As good as Tocchet has been, one negative aspect of his coaching style I've noticed is his rigidity when it comes to certain things. Kuz never had a chance under his system. Flames fans, you'll see what Kuzy is capable of when put in his natural role, and even then you'll see he's not deficient defensively. If your roster stays the same, Kuz will lead your team in scoring next season. There's a good chance we have Lindholm for less than 40 games.

No Patterson will not play center anymore he sucks on center lindholm and when the canucks did the trade he said he will sing.

Did Kuz play 41 games with Canucks this season? I know he had some healthy scratches. That's the threshold to have your name on the cup if they do win it this year.

Not a Calgary fan but glad to see them picking a direction and getting the most possible for the assets they do have. Calgary won this trade unless Vancouver wins the cup.

I think both teams got what they wanted, flames got more wildcards if Hunter B hits they win this trade 7 days out of 7 Enjoy Kuzy flames fans guys a beauty! 😢❤

when you break down what the canucks gave in this deal, they did very well. jurmo just got moved down to the second tier league in finland. hunter is a long shot to translate his current game to the nhl. so, a first that will be in the high 20's or in the 30's. a late 4th which is a lottery pick at best. lindholm should revive his game playing with some talent which he didn't have in calgary this year.

Seems pretty fair to me

no salary retention is crazy

As a flames fan, I hate to see lindholm go. I think he is going to excel and make the Canucks even more dangerous

win win

A boat load of long-shots.

What if your a canucks fan that thinks we traded a bunch of mid prospects for a mid player?

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It's definitely an over pay. That much capital would've made more sense with Guentzel but Vancouver is definitely in it to win it

Seriously feel sorry for the YVR players that are going to Flames

😂😂 the flames acquire another player who doesn't want to play in Calgary. He'll fit in great with huberdeau!

i am big sad about losing our boy Kuzzy

Canucks got fleeced. Kuzmenko alone was worth the trade - 39 goals last year. D man they got leads his league, 1st round pick, possible 3rd, another prospect. Before you say Kuz is underperforming, so is the OLDER guy they got for him.

That first rounder will be 17th to 24th if the Canucks lose in the first round. Which is why the fourth rounder would move up if they make it to the WCF

Canucks win big time. This is all about acquiring one Elias to find success with another Elias and then signing both Elias’. That much should be obvious. This is no rental. This is apart of the master plan

Lindholm better deliver, i gonna miss Kuzy😔 maybe it's gonna be my first flames jersey #96

How do the Canucks only have one Canadian on the team?

good trade. prospects and draftpicks are worthless if you want to win in the next 5 years.