'We're going back to 1947': Tory MP pressed on Sunak's mandatory national service plan

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23 күн бұрын

As Rishi Sunak plans to bring back mandatory national service if he wins the general election, Paul Brand wonders why we're putting this 'burden' on the younger generation.
18-year-olds would have a choice of either joining the military full-time for a year, or volunteering for a weekend every month carrying out a community service.
Speaking to Tory MP, Tobias Ellwood, Paul Brand asks: 'Why are the Tories claiming that Labour would take us back to square one, yet they're taking us back to 1947?'
In response, Elwood says it's because we've entered a 'grim chapter in our history' that we simply must prepare for.
Brand also interviews Naomi Smith, Chief Executive of Best for Britain, who stresses Sunak's plan 'smacks of desperation' and 'feels like a punishment for the young'.
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@riffraff9506 22 күн бұрын

Reintroduce national pride, vote a Tory out

@LD-by7ko 22 күн бұрын

And put who in?

@m20fuzzle36 22 күн бұрын

Voting doesn't work...

@JD83000 22 күн бұрын

Great. And replace with whom?

@ianhill4585 22 күн бұрын

Relock the asylum ,springs to mind, the Tories are getting more bonkers by the day😮..........

@iskrajackal9049 22 күн бұрын

Never mind nationalist, jingoist claptrap, reintroduce a sense of social justice and of uniting against the so-called elites

@jake751 22 күн бұрын

My son is not fighting for a country that has zero respect for their citizens.

@danielcraig4974 22 күн бұрын

Come on for brexit, for uncle Boris

@zoltan-zq3xe 22 күн бұрын

I can understand that the country is ruined since Blair in 97 and these pathetic weak Tories.

@zoltan-zq3xe 22 күн бұрын

Britain has been on rapid decline since 1997 I quite agree.

@col.hertford9855 22 күн бұрын

⁠@@zoltan-zq3xeyou seem to forgot to log into your other account to agree with yourself. 🤡

@vincentvangogh8092 22 күн бұрын

it increases the skill shortage UK young citizens would like likely choose to live abroad instead of facing national service here. These days it increases emigration wherever it exists

@beverleyprice7468 22 күн бұрын

I am 63 yrs old and 5 mins in and livid on behalf of young people at the arrogance of imposing on a generation that your government have taken so much hope away from now you want them to ‘offer their lives for their country’ - FU!

@yatesy57 22 күн бұрын

61 year old here, and I totally agree 👏

@reiw5802 22 күн бұрын

👏 👏 👏

@hastekulvaati9681 22 күн бұрын

Hey kids. We just spent 14 years gutting the Armed Forces. If there is a war soldiers will have to go into battle in an Uber ride share armed only with a wry sense of humour. Wanna join?

@danielhornby5581 22 күн бұрын

Many people wanting younger people to potentially make sacrifices for those who have never been asked to and knew it would never been asked of them either.

@ianhill4585 22 күн бұрын

Conscription? I predict a Vietnam war draft evasion will become a thing...... A dinghy over to France will suffice........

@jayr9952 22 күн бұрын

Why should young people be forced to volunteer for a country that offers them nothing.

@Maugirl2 22 күн бұрын

This country offers so much that half the world wants to come here!

@tom4381 22 күн бұрын

@Maugirl2 Yeah but not for the yt people who live here, they will be the ones who have the privilege of going to war while the newcomers sit with their feet up.

@I_-_O._.O_-_P_-_Y 22 күн бұрын

Because flags and kings and stuff.

@Haydersublate 22 күн бұрын

@Maugirl2 people from poor countries want to come to the UK. No one wealthy or with a future wants to be here.

@sandysimpson4785 22 күн бұрын

*THIS, EXACTLY THIS* !!!!🙄🙄🙄

@goatsummoner 22 күн бұрын

As selfish as it seems, I don't want to put my life on the life for a government that has done nothing for the young. I'm well past 18, but I'm still "young". I've worked hard and paid taxes only to be treated poorly.

@user-SubvurzIV 22 күн бұрын

It's not selfish, you owe this government nothing

@lasttango7522 22 күн бұрын

@@user-SubvurzIV You owe no government anything. The tories have been a sell out. But it was Labour that took us into the Iraq war. So you are mot being srlfish.

@freddywilson 22 күн бұрын

Exactly, plus they don't even listen to us. Rishi and his kids should go join the army

@jsd8981 22 күн бұрын

Putting your life on the line for somebody like sunak !!! How Sick Cant It Get !!!...

@jamesbarbour8400 22 күн бұрын

Not to mention that the Government has allowed our Country to be invaded without a single shot being fired in retaliation, in case some sheet wearer gets upset that their 'human' rights are being breached ! What we currently have in the UK, is a Trojan Horse situation of epic proportions, as it's Country wide !

@professorpigeon6517 22 күн бұрын

Better idea, why don’t we send the entire Conservative Party

@jsd8981 22 күн бұрын

That would be perfect ...LoL

@danielcraig4974 22 күн бұрын

Yeah to prison

@mariokart6118 22 күн бұрын

I’m sure Sunak will be sending his kids.

@Music_Light_Show 22 күн бұрын

@professorpigeon6517 There's not many left lol

@franklingoodwin 22 күн бұрын

Send them to Rwanda. It's a "safe" country after all

@joseskoks 22 күн бұрын

“About time young people do something for the country” -old person that never did National Service

@YellowfinGrouper 22 күн бұрын

To be fair - he is a reservist.

@joseskoks 22 күн бұрын

@@YellowfinGroupera reservist by choice.

@Ngamer834 22 күн бұрын

Long as it isn't THEIR kids I suppose

@syttt7925 22 күн бұрын

Keir Starmer was worried about how to get young people out to vote, but now he is going to send a thank you letter to Rishi Sunak instead. This is a great way to get the young vote out for the next 10 years.

@IMBlakeley 22 күн бұрын

@@syttt7925 Ha. I thought that too when I heard that nonsense first thing. If I were a teenager that would guarantee my vote going to not the tory.

@radicalbyte 22 күн бұрын

"About time some people do something for the country” - I totally agree, it's about time people like Rishi Sunak start actually paying taxes.

@Emm10063 22 күн бұрын

Thank you sir.

@bobbygee1771 22 күн бұрын

maybe the national service threshold should be based on income not age, new highest tax band becomes risking your life that would balance things up a bit. Tax avoision becomes a life time subscription to frontline service.

@Haydersublate 22 күн бұрын

@@bobbygee1771 genius. Everyone would run to pay tax, and on time too!

@evidence4all-re6gf 22 күн бұрын

Maybe Sunak should work in the Army for a year.

@jake751 22 күн бұрын

Only because you're old and wouldn't have to go to a war.

@scottcuk1 22 күн бұрын

As someone with 3 children under 16, there is no way I’d trust the government with their safety.

@JamesHardaker 22 күн бұрын

At best they would be making coffee and at worst belittled and abused by the people in charge of them

@Aethul-wd9ke 22 күн бұрын

@@JamesHardaker You mean at worst bleeding out missing a limb in some trench

@JamesHardaker 21 күн бұрын

@@Aethul-wd9ke 95% would go to a public institution like the police or fire brigade and be branded useless because of the way this scheme has been worded

@real_wakawaka 21 күн бұрын

@Aethul-wd9ke 100% last time this was inacted it was pre ww2 and second war started it was pushed from young people (early to mid teens) to 18 to 40. So no thanks! Only person who I can trust is myself and not some country ! Just look at Ukraine

@real_wakawaka 21 күн бұрын

@wrekin 22 күн бұрын

A sign of desperation. The man is a joke.

@PaulStargasm 22 күн бұрын

And he's one of the sensible ones.

@braxxian 21 күн бұрын

You never studied history at school did you?

@pholdway5801 21 күн бұрын

@@braxxian No point in history THE BOOKS NEVER HAD THE MAIN POINTS OR THE MAIN AGENTS NAMED. A history book is a cobweb . MOSTLY EMPTY SPACES

@runawayprophet4164 20 күн бұрын

@@braxxiana superpower trying to force young people to bolster their standing army is indeed a sign of desperation

@julianshepherd2038 22 күн бұрын

Anything but pay people a proper wage

@james970027 21 күн бұрын

Can't do that Julian! Would mean their mates wouldn't be able to buy everything and anything they wanted anymore and may have to actually learn to budget!!!

@scmather333 22 күн бұрын

Leave our children alone rishi

@shannybeautifulchannel2410 22 күн бұрын

No his right kids lazy

@limpethead 22 күн бұрын

Labour are already planning to do this. Building an Army to invade Africa and the Middle East. Why do you think they are emptying it of all its men. Lured away with free stuff. This is just Sunak letting the cat out of the bag. Labour love a war! Labour are well known for taking this country to war.

@kanedNunable 21 күн бұрын

@@shannybeautifulchannel2410 why are all you right wingers illiterate? "He's"

@stuplant6693 22 күн бұрын

As a former soldier and recent reservist, national service is ridiculous. It's emotional nonsense of the Tories thinking we live in the past. Build a better military for the future, don't break international relationships with our neighbours, stop wasting money on corruption with your friends. The army does not want unmotivated people. David Cameron tried this with his volunteering scheme in 2010 to get elected then did nothing. Plus why young people, oh they don't vote. Try doing it with older people you Tory

@dnalor7553 22 күн бұрын

Exactly - also, don’t they realise that the UK is a vastly different place to how it was 64 years ago? Society is fragmented, that’s not necessarily a negative per se - it’s just indicative of a more diverse and complicated (and more progressive) society.

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

You talk the truth. Feels to me like a desperate political stunt for the election. It could backfire.

@jsd8981 22 күн бұрын

Agreed I remember when cameron tried the same thing...

@kityhawk2000 22 күн бұрын

I'd also be worried about things like national security. Forcing people to join the military against their will probably isn't going to fill them will a patriotic sense of duty towards the government that has put them in that position. It's also going to be inevitable that is will reinforce class divides as you can bet the people with money and power will be able to get their own children out of it.

@jayr9952 22 күн бұрын

Better pay and guaranteed housing or a significant reduction in mortgage payments may incentivise some.

@craigsphotography46 22 күн бұрын

I am very sorry, I used to think Tobias Ellwood is the only serious person on the conservative back benches, it's now plainly obvious he is a clown. You lot cut our defense spending and capability to joke levels. 18 year olds should not be asked for mandatory service for a country that offers them very little

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

Not Tobias Elwood's finest moment. He must have known he was defending an electioneering stunt and he would look like a clown. Personally I would have said "This is an important topic and we need a national conversation BUT now is not the time for a policy like this". But the Tories look to be in panic mode.....'Don't panic Mr Sunak, don't panic!!'

@lizdocherty3067 22 күн бұрын

They don't like it up them.😅😅😅

@fin1131 21 күн бұрын

Hes a WEF globalist warmonger

@gavinreid9184 22 күн бұрын

When I was 18 I got my fees paid, housing was much more affordable, transport much cheaper. This policy robs our youth of another year with no recompense. Utterly unacceptable.

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

It's typical Tory policy.....a hark back to supposedly halcyon days when "conscription made a man of me", but without the resources or reward for the young people forced to do it. A army on the cheap!

@OmarOsman98 21 күн бұрын

The world is different than the time you were young. If Trump is elected, NATO will be gone. Europe will be left to fend for herself.

@samueldorrington8990 22 күн бұрын

Forcing someone to volunteer is slavery, telling someone to chose between slavery or joining an army is openly evil.

@Tooma1979 22 күн бұрын

Smells like communism

@ne-ht4zx 22 күн бұрын

It's a silly idea but no need to be quite so hysterical about it!

@shannybeautifulchannel2410 22 күн бұрын

Not slavery our kids lazy

@TheGeneReyva 22 күн бұрын

@@shannybeautifulchannel2410 Skill issue on the parents side.

@shannybeautifulchannel2410 22 күн бұрын

@@TheGeneReyva yes im fine

@midge148 22 күн бұрын

“Do it for the Nation” states Tobias. What has the nation done for the youth of today within the last 14 years.

@robotrocket1 22 күн бұрын

Made houses.... Unaffordable....

@klaus1085 22 күн бұрын

Given immigrants their future 🤷

@kanedNunable 21 күн бұрын

@@klaus1085 dont blame immigrants for tory failures ya melt

@Andy-ie1zg 19 күн бұрын

They’ve done nothing for any citizen of this country, but they’ve done plenty for there friends in power and big buisnesss!

@robotrocket1 19 күн бұрын

@@klaus1085 Immigrants get 1% if our budget and I never see them in hospitals taking up all the space as some politicians imply, so it's not like everybody would suddenly be better off if they weren't around.

@tomvandersteen5880 22 күн бұрын

This is a disgusting policy, I thought we had moved on from the age of forced labour. Why should you get to order my children to go work for free to repair the institutions that you’ve intentionally run into the ground over last decade? If my kids want to volunteer or join a Public service it will be because they choose to not because these cretins tell them to. If you want young people to feel a sense of civic duty, try making this into a country they can feel proud of again instead of threatening them with prison if they don’t comply. 🤬

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

Very well put.

@jsd8981 22 күн бұрын

I afraid not, nowadays it's called compulsory volunteering or work exsperence or work placement ...

@owi3693 22 күн бұрын

COULD NOT AGRRE WITH YOU MORE

@lizdocherty3067 22 күн бұрын

@@jsd8981could also be called free labour for employers to help them improve their profits.

@deadpool3982 22 күн бұрын

@@jsd8981 didn’t they get taken to court over that years ago? Swear they lost too but could be misremembering

@romanticlizard 22 күн бұрын

Tories are so desperate

@bobbygee1771 22 күн бұрын

desperate to lose apparently

@lewiscawthorn5694 22 күн бұрын

Why shouldn't we be prepared for an inevitable war?

@quittalkingpish 22 күн бұрын

@@lewiscawthorn5694 Lead by example then, Lewis. Go sign up. Come back to us when you have.

@danielhornby5581 22 күн бұрын

@@lewiscawthorn5694because there is not an “inevitable” war at all. Thanks for the fearmongering but a lot of us are not willing to engage in this attempt to bring further authoritarianism to the UK.

@divinity176 22 күн бұрын

@@lewiscawthorn5694 No inevitable war. And if you want to prepare, rebuild the armed forces. Conscription isn't going to fly.

@martinturtak4901 22 күн бұрын

Devious despicable Tories truly disgusting!!

@LD-by7ko 22 күн бұрын

And what about Labour please?

@paul8161 22 күн бұрын

@LD-by7ko what about them?

@LD-by7ko 22 күн бұрын

Please please please! Let us know who are better? 🙏

@LD-by7ko 22 күн бұрын

@@paul8161 You've just answered a question with a question?

@paul8161 22 күн бұрын

@@LD-by7ko that's up to you to make that decision no one else.🤣

@cannavaras 22 күн бұрын

Morning Tobias...Bournemouth voter here. Dont worry, you will have plenty of time for volunteer work from next month.

@swanvictor887 22 күн бұрын

lol!!

@killneel 22 күн бұрын

Ok... Let's also bring back council housing then.

@susannahhunt100 22 күн бұрын

That would be a winner, that is why no Party has thought of it.

@janetmalcolm6191 21 күн бұрын

More building and apprenticeships might help the young. No they offered them to pensioners waiting for their pension age knowing that would never happen. Not enough available for the young even! They just talk BS.

@susannahhunt100 21 күн бұрын

@@janetmalcolm6191 Bringing back Apprenticeships is just common sense.

@Human_Herbivore 22 күн бұрын

My dad did national service and was vehemently against it for the rest of his life.

@vincentvangogh8092 22 күн бұрын

sounds a wise man

@idlenavigator4980 22 күн бұрын

Tobias, your party has created a country that people are struggling to feel patriotic about. Maybe if your party had spent 15 years making the country a better place, this policy would have been better received?

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

Tobias is right that we need this conversation. But to introduce it now as a cynical election stunt is disgraceful. He should have distanced himself from this policy. Now is not the time. And we need to offer the young people opportunities not force them to do things that we (the older generations) don't want to do. The Tories have lost the plot.

@jayr9952 22 күн бұрын

@@Sean006 We don't need this conversation at all. The Tories have decimated the hopes of young people, and now they come with menaces to demand our children fight to protect them.

@col.hertford9855 22 күн бұрын

@@Sean006 Tobias ignores the fact when we had national service the highest rate of tax was over 90%. So tax the rich and spend it on the military, create jobs and industry here. Not trying to do it on the effing cheap.

@andrewdobson813 22 күн бұрын

Never seen a better reason for 16 year olds to get the vote.

@domispablo7992 22 күн бұрын

Co8ncidently what labours proposing which has turned me to be pronlabour now. That one promise for younger people to vote is such a game changer to our democracy's health.

@kanedNunable 21 күн бұрын

@@domispablo7992 meanwhile lots of tories pushing to raise voting age to 21!

@Penfold197 22 күн бұрын

"We've got rising authoritarianism..." Yeah, a prime example is this government.

@alicejwho 22 күн бұрын

I will never EVER vote Conservative again. EVER.

@Beyond_Belief534 22 күн бұрын

Why vote EVER?

@klaus1085 22 күн бұрын

Vote?!? Have you still not learned?!??? Wow

@alicejwho 22 күн бұрын

I'm not voting this time around, and neither is my 80yr old mother. The so-called pandemic absolutely woke me up! Yes...about time!

@annnickolls8741 22 күн бұрын

Never did

@KidarWolf 22 күн бұрын

And your fellow Brits will surely be grateful for that. This country cannot afford the Tories ever again in my lifetime. They have gutted everything, and given nothing back, and then have the gall to demand sacrifices of everyone but themselves.

@Philljag 22 күн бұрын

They won’t be forcing my son to join no army it’s his choice!! 😡😡

@kangomarbles7034 22 күн бұрын

He needs to give his life so Randy Andy can live in comfort.

@barryclough9648 22 күн бұрын

Obviously SUNAK does not want to be elected prime minister.

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

It is quite clever and cynical at the same time. It appeals to older voters who vote more than the young and look back 'fondly' on anything from the past. It also impacts solely the young who probably aren't ever going to vote Tory in upcoming election and don't vote anyway in large numbers. It's sad, it's desperate, the public will see straight through it.....hopefully.

@birdnestratfest 22 күн бұрын

he doesn't want to be the leader who led britian into WW3 that's the plan from the top. thank me later

@romeisfallingagain 22 күн бұрын

he doesnt want to be a war time prime minister, and we are in war. andrew bridgen already exposed it

@walterjames9721 22 күн бұрын

I am not convinced the election will be held on the 4th of July '24. They will start a bigger w a r b4 that day.

@vincentvangogh8092 22 күн бұрын

@@Sean006 conscription age is a group larger than you think and the too young to vote are future voters too do this for one election even if it worked it would cost you infuture voters and the old that supported it would soon be dead and gone its IDIOCY

@sarahbarrett1247 22 күн бұрын

More like 1847. They’ll have us all in workhouses with kids running around the streets in rags.

@jsd8981 22 күн бұрын

Exactly They would love that...

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

Unfortunately I don't think workhouses are too far away in a Tory future. Hopefully Labour can stop the rot. But we are becoming reliant on food banks and cheap labour.

@rewdwarf123 22 күн бұрын

That was a very bad year in Ireland...

@janetmalcolm6191 21 күн бұрын

The House Of Lords has said this Govt has regressed not progressed this country. Taking it too far back now.

@Darkscorponok 22 күн бұрын

I’m 32 this year and quite frankly I think this is an absolutely appalling conversation to be having this day and age. Absolutely no one should be made to fight if they don’t want to especially for some odious high society that think they own us and we are their play things apart from when they and their way of life needs protecting…

@Beyond_Belief534 22 күн бұрын

Fully agree. Some people in this comments section are utterly insane

@alicejwho 22 күн бұрын

Very well expressed!

@vincentvangogh8092 22 күн бұрын

well thankfully they wont be elected and it wont happen and thank you tories you will wake up the kids politically to make sure the tories never make as comeback

@norawright807 22 күн бұрын

Deflection.

@Darkscorponok 22 күн бұрын

@@norawright807 them or my comment?

@TheBeardsShow 22 күн бұрын

The sad thing is, the old angry tory codgers will fall for this nonsense. Pathetic.

@robmoore396 22 күн бұрын

But they already vote Tory, so who else are they pleasing with this? It's a weird one.

@TheBeardsShow 22 күн бұрын

@robmoore396 I think that alot of the older ones have fallen out of love with them so I think this is to shepherd them back

@james970027 21 күн бұрын

They already vote Tory, I'm going to be blunt - they're dying soon anyhoo, and they've never cared about the truth or honesty anyway - it's the same bunch of old people who will argue that they are always right regardless of how clearly wrong everyone else can see they are.

@Ezzyazeze 22 күн бұрын

Tories: "how do we gurantee older voters, most of whom aren't old enough to have done National Service, vote for us? Lets demonise the young some more! Plus we get to bolster the military on the cheap!"

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

I'd vote for young people to wash my bottom and clean the growths off my feet.....and it isn't going to cost me a penny. Free care. I might even manage to save enough for another cruise around the Med once a year. What a wonderful idea!

@Ezzyazeze 22 күн бұрын

@@Sean006 Sounds like someone's voting to have a terrible "accident" 😂

@cry-rs7vv 22 күн бұрын

Exactly

@byzantium8851 22 күн бұрын

Tories talking about values, national ethics? Are they oblivious to the irony?

@crunchtime6244 22 күн бұрын

“About time young people do something for the country” -old person that never did National Service.

@ivermektin6874 22 күн бұрын

Peak boomerism.

@rchas1023 22 күн бұрын

Civic duty? What example has the Tory Party given us?

@michaelpegg4288 22 күн бұрын

How does a whole generation of 18 year olds working for Charity once a month bolster the armed forces?

@notpub 22 күн бұрын

Feed the homeless who will be on the front; perhaps?

@lizdocherty3067 22 күн бұрын

Or help charities that support ex-service people as this government does nothing to help them.

@jzilla1234 22 күн бұрын

there's a 1930s feel and this time the uk is cosplaying as germany

@tom4381 22 күн бұрын

How do you even come to this conclusion 😂

@user-SubvurzIV 22 күн бұрын

@tom4381 Rampant nationalism, the focus on immigrants as the cause of all societal problems, bad economy, political demagogues stirring resentment to empower themselves..I dunno, take your pick.

@epicphailure88 22 күн бұрын

@@tom4381He's saying the British government are the bad guys this time around.

@tom4381 22 күн бұрын

@@epicphailure88 Yeah, how?

@kanedNunable 21 күн бұрын

@@tom4381 by using our eyes. we arent all tory simps like you.

@neworleans75 22 күн бұрын

The military don't want this. Training people that don't want to be there is a nightmare

@wayneperry7413 22 күн бұрын

Somewhat irrelevant anyway, pretty sure about 90% of 18 year olds would take up the once a month charity work, rather than the military service for a year, but I take your point.

@kerrywiggins 21 күн бұрын

Charities don't want it either. Most volunteers are a drain on their resources. They need training and supervision. There has to be care given about access to vulnerable people and confidential documentation. Charities support volunteering as it is part of their remit, not because it benefits them (except where the volunteer becomes competent through long service).

@scmather333 22 күн бұрын

Youngsters will come back in body bags more trauma for parents

@cry-rs7vv 22 күн бұрын

Some will become dangerous criminals or serial killers with military experience so either way it's gonna be a decestating result

@Skygrey2943 22 күн бұрын

I'm sick to death of social policy that is cribbed from 'The Daily Mail'.

@Ngamer834 22 күн бұрын

That will be the Tories manifesto a copy of the Daily Fail

@scmather333 22 күн бұрын

And I think it should be the choice of the young person to make that decision not rishi to make decisions for them

@YellowfinGrouper 22 күн бұрын

It might get the young vote out- to vote against it. This could be the solution to young people not being engaged with politics.

@ardouisur 22 күн бұрын

This. I think it will loose them more votes than it wins.

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

It could backfire. But I expect they have crunched the numbers and factored in young people voting apathy. But this could create a social media storm, which is impossible to factor in.

@vincentvangogh8092 22 күн бұрын

i can see this giving labour another 5 percent

@KhanivoreQniba 22 күн бұрын

Forced labour. No f*cking chance.

@MrLillywhite2011 22 күн бұрын

Send their children first

@ignoranceisbliss6259 22 күн бұрын

National service never did me any harm... Mainly because I was born after 1944.

@Beyond_Belief534 22 күн бұрын

Forcing your will onto others Yeah, it did you no harm at all lol

@magnuscarlsson9969 22 күн бұрын

@@Beyond_Belief534 I'm rather biased, but honestly i saw it just as a continuation of school. I did mine in 2005 before Sweden dismantled our mandatory service requirements... I went into the field medic program and basically more or less went trough a limited nurse education with military elements. Conscription don't have to be a bad thing depending on how you decide to set it up. I got offered top of the line education and decent pay, sure i wasn't allowed to make a choice if i wanted to go or not but there was choices to be made within the system. A lot of people went into civil service programs and became electricians, firefighters, medics, mechanics etc. which ain't useless skills to have and for many it was just a continuation of their planned education anyway.

@jakegibbs6003 22 күн бұрын

@@Beyond_Belief534 the ahh, joke flew right over your head there, didnt it bud?

@lizdocherty3067 22 күн бұрын

@@magnuscarlsson9969I'm guessing you have never attended a Tory work experience programme.

@vincentvangogh8092 22 күн бұрын

@@magnuscarlsson9969 yeah but your country doesnt let their service personnel live on the streets when they come back

@izzytrue8630 22 күн бұрын

Let the politicians do something for our country before they ask anything of us!!!

@hastekulvaati9681 22 күн бұрын

If national service is so vital why are they feverishly scribbling the proposal 10 minutes before their homework is due.

@sasserine 22 күн бұрын

"The world us facing rising authoritarianism", says MP from authoritarian party.

@danielcraft1971 22 күн бұрын

Nothing the Tories say matters. They will be gone in a few months and we can all forget about them for hopefully a generation.

@jamiecapes2644 20 күн бұрын

Election day is in 5 and a half weeks.

@samsoncooper1 22 күн бұрын

"Over the last 30 years we have had it increasingly easy" No - You have had it increasingly easy! The young have had it increasingly difficult in that time

@alien4422 22 күн бұрын

The rich people who have spent fourteen years taking our money want our young people to protect them. 🤣

@Jessjoe1956 22 күн бұрын

I wonder if this will apply to Sunaks kids ?

@grahamdhv3812 21 күн бұрын

They'll disappear to America.

@michaelspencer6318 22 күн бұрын

Bring it on and us 18 year olds will show you exactly what reaction you will get.

@adam8268 22 күн бұрын

Which is…

@gm9460 22 күн бұрын

@@adam8268mass no compliance I expect. To which the government will not be able to respond. It’s unenforceable

@kanedNunable 21 күн бұрын

make sure you all vote then!

@aNewbPlays 22 күн бұрын

What a 🔔🔚 is this tobias, he constantly talks over Naomi when she says things he doesn't like but when he's talking bs and she talks he throws a mini tantrum...eff the tories

@quittalkingpish 22 күн бұрын

One rule for me but not for thee. Straight out the Tory handbook.

@aNewbPlays 22 күн бұрын

@quittalkingpish Guaranteed if it happened there would be a sudden outbreak of thing's like bone spurs amongst 18yos of the tory/rich.

@francesbrown5116 22 күн бұрын

Didn't he get a telling off for his praise of the Taliban on a visit to Afghanistan lol .

@Sean006 22 күн бұрын

They talked over each other. She was clearly passionate about this topic. It would have been interesting to hear how he could defend the indefensible but he spent most of his time complaining about being interrupted. But I suppose we got the gist of things.

@simonbamford8441 22 күн бұрын

Lunatic Party - The Tories.

@neilfeder4625 22 күн бұрын

What do the 18 year olds get out of it? In the US if you do military service you get free University education and if you extend your stay in the army, you could be in reciept of a discount on housing. Considering the young have had their prospects cut and cut and cut, what do they get?

@klaus1085 22 күн бұрын

Called far right extremists 🤷

@danielcampbell3686 22 күн бұрын

What the tories always give empty promises, they take everything of value from you, and then kick you in the gutter

@salkoharper2908 22 күн бұрын

The young get a chance to die in some far off land for rich men in the city to increase their stock portfolio or enable the price of oil to increase. Lok at Iraq and Afghanistan... At this point I would rather fight the Tories and there voters than any foreigns.

@ThreeB78 22 күн бұрын

I suspect that the Tories are actually terrified of winning at this point

@SnakeEater776 21 күн бұрын

In a couple days "The tories plan to improve cost of living by introducing natural selection and regular purges to our daily lives"

@drummingtildeath 22 күн бұрын

As a parent of an 11 year old, would I vote to make my son join the army!? Of course not. That's insane. I'd like him to get to 19 with all his limbs and no PTSD thanks.

@JamesMurphy1984 22 күн бұрын

Used to have respect for Tobias Elwood as a voice of reason within the Tory party but after listening to his frankly arrogant sweeping aside of the argument that the young, having to go through generational unfairness that his Boomer generation has benefitted greatly from, he’s totally lost my respect. If you’re expecting the young to support your policies and instill the values you respect then you have respect them by introducing policies that will benefit not take away from their lives. Tories are TAKE TAKE TAKE from the younger generations.

@lehelisbored 22 күн бұрын

I would hope that people lost respect for Elwood when he produced that concerning and frankly idiotic pro-Taliban advert.

@jeevan8197 22 күн бұрын

We should test this policy on the MPs who want to pursue it.

@tug1345 22 күн бұрын

I'm 45, I've worked all my life since 16, it took me 20 years to equal the wages my dad was on when he retired, and that was 14 years after he retired, wages for normal workers have been cutback a lot in the last 30 years

@Welsh2505 22 күн бұрын

Well done Naomi smith.

@Michael-kf7gm 22 күн бұрын

Why should young people be forced to give to their country when their country refuses to give to them? Young people should not be forced to give their time and lives to the military when it is not young people starting these wars in the first place. Older people started the wars. They should fight their own battles and leave young people out of it.

@cameronfateweaver2206 22 күн бұрын

It feels like the 1940's because most of people voting for the Tories are obsessed with the 1940's. The british empire is gone and will never, ever, return.

@maneshipocrates2264 22 күн бұрын

The Tories should vote against themselves

@coreymwamba5417 22 күн бұрын

Paying tax is doing something for your nation. Something Tories consistently avoid.

@jdolanout 22 күн бұрын

Elwood is right that it feels like the 1930s. Particularly in how his party and their government treat and talk about minorities.

@dnalor7553 22 күн бұрын

Ditto those that insist on using terms such as ‘illegals’ or (for the even less well educated) ‘dingy people’.

@traceymorris1379 22 күн бұрын

My grandson has done 2 years in the forces...the WHOLE platoon was finished on ill health because of the intense training...my grandson pressure fractures in his spine and loss of hearing in both ears 😠😠😠

@lindacurrie8817 21 күн бұрын

I feel very sad for your grandson. Having a bad spine and loss of hearing will be with him for the rest of his life. Do hope he maintains the health he has as the NHS will not be able to treat him if that should be required The Tories have a lot to answer for and yet answer they do not. Despicable. horrible vile creatures.

@andrewdeakins9945 22 күн бұрын

Signs of a desperate and an unholy immoral bunch. I'm not a massive fan of labour either and I think there is a wider issue in politics but what I have witnessed over the last decade has been disgusting. This government has systematically destroyed the economy along with public services and wants the youth to do the work for nothing. I didn't think they could top zero hours contracts but they some how managed. The wellbeing of people is linked to actually being able to have some disposable income left and not feeling as though you are simply existing. Trying doing that after coming out of university with a 40 grand debt for trying to better yourself then finding having a family / house is unaffordable. What planet do these idiots live on?

@user-yi6ui6pn4i 22 күн бұрын

The economy was destroyed in 2010, no money left, a legacy of mountainous debts due to uncosted, unfunded Brown spending. Unlike 1997, books balanced,...large Tory budget surpluses inherited by New Labour.

@claudiafigueiredo4979 22 күн бұрын

House for youn..no Work training..no High wages..no Uni fees scrap..no Better schools..no War yes lets spend the money we can not find for the rest

@davidjames2910 22 күн бұрын

The difference is that, in the late 1930s, the UK government fought against fascism instead of promoting it.

@DaBigBoo_ 22 күн бұрын

you fought the wrong war

@user-lk7wd3yj4e 22 күн бұрын

I'm a 60 yr and wouldn't be willing to train in any part of the military where arrogant rich leaders will be hiding in their bunkers whilst I have to risk life and limb...

@brianferguson7840 22 күн бұрын

The people of Finland are also amongst the happiest in the world. Best public services in Europe. Not like the British

@kanedNunable 21 күн бұрын

finland has one of the highest levels of suicide and alcoholism.

@BillyBobJoeSnr 22 күн бұрын

Brexit was another cause of international instability.... The expert is very narrow minded.

@klaus1085 22 күн бұрын

😂😂😂 delusional

@mikusb9011 22 күн бұрын

What is the the benefits of Brexit??? Sewage into the rivers and sea?? Scraping bonus cap for bankers to benefit the super rich?? Extra cost to check the incoming goods in the UK?? Leaving the Erasmus program which benefits the young people??

@lehelisbored 22 күн бұрын

@@klaus1085Adding some cry-laugh emojis doesn't make your comment seem more clever and triumphant.

@BillyBobJoeSnr 22 күн бұрын

@@mikusb9011 Yes the Tory party are chasing the over 80 votes as the youth generally are apathetic towards voting, but the oldies are always first out.

@drasticplasticaustin 22 күн бұрын

In 1947 I think British Politics would have had considerably more integrity and credibility. These days its an enbarrasing and cringeworthy shambles and something of which We as a Nation should be deeply ashamed. When I see our Party Leaders on TV giving it like they're the Nations saving grace and Your vote for them will somehow be of remedial value, it turns My stomach.

@mjrhitchin 22 күн бұрын

How many posh kids would end up doing national service in the military?

@lindacurrie8817 21 күн бұрын

Have to make sure they do. If the media and press do not ask that question then citizens must force them to and do the same re Tories. Their children as in young adults have no more value than working class children young adults.

@SarahTheNearlyInSP 22 күн бұрын

Easy for Ellwood to say as he never had to serve under conscription!!

@lipkinasl 22 күн бұрын

Utterly ridiculous! If I 'd been told I had to do national service I would have point-blank refused. There should be no armed forces. Use diplomacy to tell the world to do what you want. And if they don't then use United Nations and international criminal courts to enforce what is needed.This is labour on the cheap, because the Government can't be bothered to properly fund the NHS.

@JoeWedgwood-ik9zo 22 күн бұрын

We can’t even supply and run a small professional army properly… Sunak is in cloud cuckoo land 😂

@Anmeteor9663 22 күн бұрын

We could, but the political choice is not to. Same as things like de privatisation and adequate funding of the NHS or local councils, social housing and on and on. All political choices and not a question of funding. Government can create and spend as much money as it wants. Just look at where the Government borrowing is now compared to 2010. They spaffed that money on themselves and their mates in a wealth transfer from the future taxes of the people. They didn't spend it on the things we need, defence, schools, hospitals, transport infrastructure, utilities..... Those are all just vehicles for the money transfer. See the water and rail companies use of our subsidy money to pay the massive dividends to shareholders and board members bonuses. Sorry for the rant😅

@steveharrison4176 22 күн бұрын

Ellwood condradicts himself ,let him do it along with his tory mates

@danieloliver4558 22 күн бұрын

A lot of people are for others doing national services. Tories have already taken us to war, they just ain't told us yet.

@lawrenceblunden428 22 күн бұрын

The majority of "champions" for this policy are people who didn't actually have to do compulsory national service.

@darkhorseman8263 22 күн бұрын

Everyone who voted leave should be conscripted.

@tom4381 22 күн бұрын

Why don't we vote on it?

@JohnHollyoak-vx6pn 22 күн бұрын

They’re all too old or wouldn’t pass the intelligence test.

@reiw5802 22 күн бұрын

They couldn't even get leave voters to pick fruit or veg...

@darkhorseman8263 22 күн бұрын

@JohnHollyoak-vx6pn Sounds like front line troops for me. Take the Putin zombie approach

@chriswilde7246 22 күн бұрын

I voted leave, already did my time as a frontline soldier in the British army years ago.....how about you? Get over it!

@woodchopper1752 22 күн бұрын

Project fear campaign up and running i see .

@accomuk 22 күн бұрын

And just what do the Tories thin an 18 year old is going to do while on mandatory volunteering in the NHS? Operations, Diagnostics, Empty Bed Pans?

@jsd8981 22 күн бұрын

Don't know,, you would need to ask "TOBIAS" LoL about that one TOBIAS seem to know all about emptying bed pans and the like and he seems to know all about Soldiering, TOBIAS seems like a man of the world, a regular guy LoL😂

@lizdocherty3067 22 күн бұрын

Probably do the jobs of porters, cleaners and kitchen staff which means they can cut the hours of current workers doing the especially as it is weekends when they receive a slightly higher rate or is overtime for some.

@abcdef-uc1rj 22 күн бұрын

@@lizdocherty3067 A lot of these staff are paid minimum wage. Cutting hours would be devastating to their family incomes. Someone I know works as a Band 2 operating theatre assistant told me that her daughter gets paid more than her working at Aldi. She is seriously considering leaving her job.

@danielcampbell3686 22 күн бұрын

Most porters and cleaners are band 1,weekly paid, £22K a year, and some of those are zero hour contracts

@AntonSmyth-od6rc 22 күн бұрын

We dont have a housing crisis, if we have no young people. Problem solved.

@mum5276 21 күн бұрын

What a horrific thought!

@simonwood1402 22 күн бұрын

The Tories have done so much to bring about this 1930's situation (Russian money for Brexit)...

@francesbrown5116 22 күн бұрын

The EU army .

@simonwood1402 22 күн бұрын

@@francesbrown5116 if only there was one because Tory Brexit Britain hasn't got so much as a penknife for defence 🖊 🤡 🇬🇧

@finleyplympton 22 күн бұрын

It's wrong. It's disgusting.

@ignoranceisbliss6259 22 күн бұрын

Do you remember when bojo put the son of a kgb into the house of lords? It's great to hear someone who supported that being concerned for what is best for the nation. That nation presumably being Russia.

@grahamdhv3812 21 күн бұрын

Also refused to publish the report on Russia.

@robertcreighton4635 22 күн бұрын

Keep the army professional. Tories are really out of sensible ideas. Rishi sunk 😂

@mikewallace1723 22 күн бұрын

Who’s going to train them? Oh yes the overstretched army🙄🙄🙄 pathetic policy 🤬🤬🤬

@FRU.No.1 22 күн бұрын

Every MP and Lords children need to spend 18months in the armed forces no exceptions, short of disabilities. Then we can talk about national service

@netyoda 22 күн бұрын

Without automatically getting into officer training

@danielcampbell3686 22 күн бұрын

No officer's just privates like everyone else, let then earn rank

@31Blaize 22 күн бұрын

Take away all opportunities and hope for the younger generation then expect them to do "mandatory" volunteering in order to provide an unpaid boost to the underfunded public services. WTAF...

@ClipMania247 22 күн бұрын

If you think il put my son or daughter through that you’ve got another thing coming

@enquirer2.0 22 күн бұрын

He's desperate for this because he got beaten up by a group of kids he told off in the park

@mikewallace1723 22 күн бұрын

So we’re going to train them with even better fighting skills 🙄🙄🙄😂😂😂

@jsd8981 22 күн бұрын

You read my mind !!! LoL😅

@GM-qz9fo 22 күн бұрын

A 1930's feel? Who was around back then to confirm this now?

@Truthseeker1515 22 күн бұрын

It's insane. As a French citizen, I completed my national service in 1996. I was in one of the last contingents as it was abrogated in 1998. (1) Those with connections either did not do it or landed in cushy jobs. (2) Graduates were treated as cheap, educated labour by professional NCOs, most of whom did not even have the baccalaureate (3) Those graduates who expended their national service by 3 months for officer training were considered as worse than privates by professional NCOs. (4) That one year (it was 12 months at the time) delayed entry into the world of work. (5) who would want to serve for an institution that serves greedy politicians who wage illegal wars? There is no such thing as society anyway, who knows best than the Tories!

@lincslegend6936 22 күн бұрын

Naomi Smith 👏👏👏 thankyou for talking sense.

@shivaramavishnu 22 күн бұрын

Legalise recreational cannabis in the UK.

@Leanneyhunter 22 күн бұрын

Yet there are hundreds of people who have tried to join the army but have been turned away because of this company who are doing the medical assessments, it’s not always done correctly and I’ve witnessed a healthy young lad be turned away because of an illness he doesn’t even have. They carry out the assessments more like how they do pip assessments. You have people willing to risk life and limb for king and country yet not be allowed to sign up because of failed medical assessments. Then there’s young kids going to be forced into it. It isn’t right.