We replace springs with hard silicone (and other stuff) - will it work?

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@myfalconry76
@myfalconry76 15 күн бұрын
One day one your crazy experiments is going to lead to a revolutionary breakthrough in automotive design.
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 12 күн бұрын
Don't hold your breath 😂.
@jwalster9412
@jwalster9412 8 күн бұрын
"breaking news: Russian man revolutionizes _car_ by replacing all heavy elements with air"
@kennethjohnson7893
@kennethjohnson7893 14 күн бұрын
The Honda stance kids are gonna absolutely eat this up!
@bekindandrewind1422
@bekindandrewind1422 15 күн бұрын
The bushings were a genius idea and while the ride is stiff and harsh, it did hold the weight of the car without collapsing or deforming as much. --- A stack of valve springs might work too.
@timw6596
@timw6596 13 күн бұрын
I was thinking 4-8 valve springs on a steel plate, stacked up over and over and see if they work !
@bekindandrewind1422
@bekindandrewind1422 13 күн бұрын
@@timw6596 -- to be able to support the full weight, and given the length of the shaft, it LOOKS like six springs would fit? Maybe eight when compressed, but that would increase the stiffness and ride height...
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 13 күн бұрын
They already tried valve springs
@bekindandrewind1422
@bekindandrewind1422 13 күн бұрын
@@servicetrucker5564 oh? I missed that one... Now I'm going to have to look for it.
@kennethcohagen3539
@kennethcohagen3539 15 күн бұрын
Try the silicon springs you created along with a tube over them to keep them in one piece, and not squashed like the individual bump stops you used.
@alex_stanley
@alex_stanley 13 күн бұрын
I was thinking they could use a straight section of radiator hose as the mold/tube.
@AndrewTSq
@AndrewTSq 15 күн бұрын
For some reason, my wife wants to buy that suspension at 10:28
@gfries4906
@gfries4906 15 күн бұрын
LOL
@ovalwingnut
@ovalwingnut 15 күн бұрын
LOL Arrived at the recommended time... Now I get it (that's what she said). Too funny ATSq.
@anonymously241
@anonymously241 14 күн бұрын
Mine is much bigger and longer 🤭🤭
@L4ND.SH4RK
@L4ND.SH4RK 14 күн бұрын
Let's help her get it, "installed" 😂😂😂
@anibalbabilonia1867
@anibalbabilonia1867 14 күн бұрын
👋🤣👉💀⚰️
@richardthomas1743
@richardthomas1743 15 күн бұрын
NO! But lets try it anyways !!
@blackened1031
@blackened1031 14 күн бұрын
We need a channel like this in US
@honor9lite1337
@honor9lite1337 14 күн бұрын
Ok
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 13 күн бұрын
As others have said, Minis used rubber for springs. Biggest differences are that they used a lever setup that allowed for more suspension movement with less spring movement (so they could use hard rubber and not need it to flex too much) and the rubber was conical, so the spring rate increased as it got squished more.
@russbilzing5348
@russbilzing5348 15 күн бұрын
The silicone gave me an idea, If the silicone had a wider diameter in the center with adequate support on the bottom and air tight, inside a cylinder (greased with silicone grease). and closed at the top, would this not act as a form of air shock, providing a somewhat softer ride ? The compression of the trapped air would push outward on the lining, using it as a lateral and vertical spring while the compression of the air (preferably Nitrogen), would act as a softer or harder buffering depending on the pressure inside. I know that you are experimenting with "at hand" materials for use in an emergency, but the engineer and machinist in me could not resist answering... Rats, I just realized I just re-invented the air charged shock absorber without the oil and oil passage restrictor jetting. Damn! Hind sight is always 20/20. Oh well, never mind.
@MadScientist267
@MadScientist267 15 күн бұрын
The cylinder would be the key
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 12 күн бұрын
You saved yourself at the end of all that!
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 15 күн бұрын
Cool to see this tried, really enjoy this channel. I saw once a British car that used rubber cones in place of springs. They made 2 different models which used the same cones. The heavier one had you not known rode like a normal coil or leaf spring suspension of it's day. The lighter one however rode pretty much like here very firm though bearable. I think some old mini's did as well/
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 12 күн бұрын
It wasn't a Mini? What was it?
@IsaacNewtongue
@IsaacNewtongue 14 күн бұрын
I've been binging your videos for at least a month and a half! Whenever I have time to kill, it's by watching Garage54! You guys should convert an old Lada to mid-engine using a Samara engine and transmission!
@Kingonionring200
@Kingonionring200 13 күн бұрын
Garage 54 and bmi Russian thank you for your videos from the bottom of my heart thank you my son has gotten into the car passion watching yall and I have been trying to get him interested in it for years 😂
@busyguy7479
@busyguy7479 15 күн бұрын
I like this experiment with the black lada bushings the seemed to take the stress better than the rest. a heaver vehicle would help with the stiff ride. good idea guys with the bushings.
@chaselarson4224
@chaselarson4224 14 күн бұрын
Your garage 54 pleasure toys now for sale in our merch store🤣👌🏻
@shaneeslick
@shaneeslick 15 күн бұрын
G'day Garage54 & BMI, 2:46 Lada Shish-Kabob for lunch 😂
@thedarkknight1971
@thedarkknight1971 14 күн бұрын
Fun fact... Older mountain bike bicycles that were fitted with front suspension, used to have elastomer bungs in the forks, which, on some upper tier suspension fork manufacturers allowed you to swap out the bungs for softer or firmer elastomer bungs to adjust the suspension feel. This was an alternative for basic springs, or the better air/oil fork versions (for more premium mountain bikes)... 😏 😎🇬🇧
@willemvandernest3249
@willemvandernest3249 15 күн бұрын
You must have left the silicone in the housing it was casted in. The casting must just be a litter wider than the shock
@davidjernigan8161
@davidjernigan8161 15 күн бұрын
The best thing might be to use a combination of different hardnesses of rubber. Harder on the bottom trending softer to the top
@silentferret1049
@silentferret1049 15 күн бұрын
I think the silicone ones at the end could have worked better if they were cut into say 3 or 4 sections and had metal washers in between each section. Even out more of the load over the silicone instead of it bunching up like it did. It would kinda be like the bushings but with extra support. The tire one looked like a kabob with all those square pieces.
@JJFX-
@JJFX- 13 күн бұрын
Could also stack each section at varying widths to control the stiffness as it compresses further. Basically a crude but simple workaround for a composite design.
@L4ND.SH4RK
@L4ND.SH4RK 14 күн бұрын
Very impressed with how well the bushings did!
@ES-wy2xj
@ES-wy2xj 14 күн бұрын
try the silicone with less length. The thing that is happening is called buckling. the longer the peice, the easier it is to buckle. and the thinner it is the easier is to buckle too
@2StrokeDriptroit
@2StrokeDriptroit 15 күн бұрын
My TiLite titanium ultra light wheelchair has front forks known as “Frog Legs” and they have a pivot pin and polyurethane “pucks” as the “spring” and they are on exact same basic set up as this. You can get higher or lower durometer hardnesses of these damper pucks for a harder or softer ride. They work great! So this type of suspension works, at least in my case anyway! 😋 Shout out to Vlad and Company! Hope all is well! Always love your videos! Cheers! 👍🏻😋
@gamelias87
@gamelias87 15 күн бұрын
Try again using bicycle suspension springs
@bitkarek
@bitkarek 15 күн бұрын
that would just fully compress
@justinremple7986
@justinremple7986 15 күн бұрын
I love this channel if I was on the side of the road in need of a shock or spring I know what to do now 😂 thank you for your videos!!🎉
@otm646
@otm646 15 күн бұрын
I would love to see this tried with die springs for DIY coilovers
@user-yj8ux9ef4v
@user-yj8ux9ef4v 11 күн бұрын
I have an idea for an episode!!! instead of using a traditional MLS head gasket use a thick sheet of aluminum like a crush washer in-between the head and the block
@kalybnielsen4183
@kalybnielsen4183 15 күн бұрын
A sleeve over the would help to keep everything in line and keep the softer ones from mushing clear out
@lexloose2112
@lexloose2112 15 күн бұрын
Reinforce the silicone with some sort of net outter layer?
@Psyden5757
@Psyden5757 15 күн бұрын
The tube it was cast in would be good
@opossom1968
@opossom1968 15 күн бұрын
There is a big push going on with Diesel Electric drive system in vehicles. Deboss Garage is installing such a system in an old truck to prove and test for manufacturing the concept. they use a small diesel engine to power a generator just as in a TRAIN. Make one using components you already have to make an diesel electric car. small diesel engine powering a generator to provide power to the electric axles.
@russbilzing5348
@russbilzing5348 15 күн бұрын
I've been thinking of something like this for a motorized bicycle, as well as electric brakes. Of course, those will require a rheostat and heat sink.
@opossom1968
@opossom1968 15 күн бұрын
@@russbilzing5348 the build Deboss Garage is doing is a manufacturing company that is going to produce a system that is powered by a 4 cylinder cummins. that cummins designed for this application. it runs at a constant speed and powers electric axles. just like an electric car. with all the functionality of a truck. They also have build and designed an 18 wheel truck run on diesel electric axles.
@timothybayliss6680
@timothybayliss6680 15 күн бұрын
Polyurethane would have performed about the same as the silicone snakes. It would have been way more durable with a wider selection of hardness.
@cardinaloflannagancr8929
@cardinaloflannagancr8929 15 күн бұрын
What would make the difference is the durometer of either as far as ride goes. For durability silicone vs poly could vary though the specific mix used would be a considerable variable.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 15 күн бұрын
Austin Minis used rubber cones for their suspension, cone-shaped for various levels of damping, and rubber cos it was cheap (given it was the car for the masses in the UK at the time), of course over time, the rubber perished and flattened, but easy enough to replace...
@teardowndan5364
@teardowndan5364 14 күн бұрын
Double the silicone diameter to divide pressure by 4X, add plates to both ends to spread pressure evenly across the whole thing and it would probably work fine.
@terryschlosser211
@terryschlosser211 10 күн бұрын
I liked the bushing idea but stack it bushing ,bump stop, bushing, bump stop, bushing
@mrpete1972
@mrpete1972 15 күн бұрын
I'd like to see the lada bushings have a durability trial. They definitely worked the best, and it would be interesting to see how long they would last.
@late221
@late221 14 күн бұрын
Make a suspension system with hydraulic cylinders that replase shocks and have hoses going inside the car and connect it to another cylinder thats pushed against a spiring and have a valve in the hudraulic hose to adjust the dampening
@dangeary2134
@dangeary2134 13 күн бұрын
HEY GUYS, I GOT A GOOD ONE FOR YOU!!! Look up Lenz’s Law. See if you can’t make shock absorbers that use this. You may well find something to replace all oil-bearing shock absorbers. Don’t try just one magnet, you may have to stack some together, or even have them spaced out within the tube. Trying different diameters and thicknesses of copper tube might also be in order. Drop a Neodymium magnet through a copper pipe to see how this works. I’ve always wanted to try this, and see if I couldn’t make shocks that would never wear out!
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 12 күн бұрын
Vlad, auto engineers have been dreaming up and testing suspension parts for 125 years. They have a bit of a head start over you guys. But then, that could be said for ALL your experiments! 🤣
@anibalbabilonia1867
@anibalbabilonia1867 14 күн бұрын
Well I think the bushings worked better! Once they loosen up, the ride would be more manageable!
@linuslarsson3442
@linuslarsson3442 15 күн бұрын
It is so cute with only 1 turnsignal Light on the right 😂😍
@alannaramone3821
@alannaramone3821 15 күн бұрын
Those holes in the back floor panels are classic.
@OndreaS123
@OndreaS123 15 күн бұрын
the silicone in a set of larger tapered steel cups might be an interesting experiment, contains it and uses the spring qualities. you can also try polyurethane, it can be mixed in any hardness.
@peterkn2
@peterkn2 15 күн бұрын
I think the silicone may work if they created a plate at top and bottom of the strut so that the diameter of the silicone is larger. Spread out the weight
@CelentAle
@CelentAle 12 күн бұрын
The ideal would be two neodymium magnetic suspensions👍👍
@winstonjones7519
@winstonjones7519 12 күн бұрын
Garage 54 is great.
@Alone_AtNight
@Alone_AtNight 14 күн бұрын
"Here we have our snake" lol >_< you know what that looks like right?
@Aleks_Mechanics
@Aleks_Mechanics 15 күн бұрын
Notification squad Have a nice weekend!🔥🔥🔥
@CameronM47
@CameronM47 15 күн бұрын
Anyone else do a date check when they see a Garage 54 video drop, to make sure its not 1st April.
@craigr6186
@craigr6186 15 күн бұрын
Maybe bigger diameter pipe for the silicone with washers at the top and bottom of the shock/strut to increase spring rate and feasibility
@MikeAnderson-uj3oo
@MikeAnderson-uj3oo 15 күн бұрын
Not a broken spring, but I had a Ford with a really bad strut. Worn so bad it pumped all the oil out and was bouncing very bad. At the bottom of the strut I drilled a hole and installed a Zerk fitting. I pumped the strut full of grease. It worked . To a certain degree. It stopped bouncing. After a couple of weeks I had to put more grease in. It pumped most of the initial grease out. I drove it for about a month that way. The car was going for scrap. Thats why I didn't replace the strut.
@willjohnsonjohnson
@willjohnsonjohnson 15 күн бұрын
The Lada bushings seem like they're better as bumpstops than the factory bump stops. On Hondas, I've seen people use rubber dog toys, the type with the food hole. I wonder how those would work as a spring?
@alexandercaputo3814
@alexandercaputo3814 15 күн бұрын
Place footballs inside your coil springs
@lorenzosamuel11
@lorenzosamuel11 15 күн бұрын
Wonder if you did these again but with a reinforcement around them so they only compress but not deformed the. Mix up the material.
@bitkarek
@bitkarek 15 күн бұрын
make super long dampers and springs so you have insane tall suspension travel.
@TalksWithNoise
@TalksWithNoise 15 күн бұрын
First time I’m early for a Garage 54 video!
@imronson4366
@imronson4366 15 күн бұрын
Valve springs in-between bushings
@imronson4366
@imronson4366 15 күн бұрын
Or all valve springs
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 13 күн бұрын
They already tried valve springs
@user-ex8lc4yu8s
@user-ex8lc4yu8s 14 күн бұрын
Mabye you could put a plate under and above silcone And make diameter thicker
@liga8149
@liga8149 15 күн бұрын
This guy should come visit the US.
@jameshedrick605
@jameshedrick605 15 күн бұрын
Not sure what I would rather deal with a broken coil spring or a broken leaf spring. Replaced both quite a few times over the last few years
@nebulous962
@nebulous962 15 күн бұрын
not sure about the other stuff but i have seen polyurethane used in bicycle suspension stems so atleast that one might work okay.
@russbilzing5348
@russbilzing5348 15 күн бұрын
I had a parallelogram shock absorber on my steering head that used polyurethane in just exactly that fashion and I can guarantee that it works fine. It can even be preloaded by tightening the bolt that runs through it's center.
@UberLummox
@UberLummox 15 күн бұрын
Wish you woulda tested the HANDLING!
@HonorXPrinciple
@HonorXPrinciple 15 күн бұрын
Hey guys the strut went out right at the mounting cup on my 97 Deville, I jammed the thick kind of rubber exhaust hanger in there and rides like new lol
@RandysRides
@RandysRides 14 күн бұрын
I'd say that was more of a tire shish kabob than a sandwich. 🤣
@dav1dbone
@dav1dbone 15 күн бұрын
I know you boys like Flight of The Phoenix, do an adventure based on that, a pile of scrap parts and limited supplies, some expeditionary(sic) guys, different styles different strokes"go for it", escape the desert,"whatever?"make a thing to get home,
@_wave64_
@_wave64_ 15 күн бұрын
2:43 I would call this "Vlad's shashlik"
@xXBurningRejectXx
@xXBurningRejectXx 15 күн бұрын
Should try to make the worlds most comfortable suspension next
@bingysbackyard
@bingysbackyard 10 күн бұрын
Pull the bottom part of the shock absorber apart and put the silicone piece inside instead of having oil in there
@Krishell
@Krishell 12 күн бұрын
This reminds me of my Morris Mini. It has rubber instead of springs 😂
@genehunsinger3981
@genehunsinger3981 15 күн бұрын
VLAD!! The seat of your pants "is NOT compliant!!"
@rian0xFFF
@rian0xFFF 15 күн бұрын
Could you try to make a suspension use the an aluminum tube or copper with a magnetic inside, when it move will generate current and brakes
@beastman.330
@beastman.330 7 күн бұрын
This could have worked better if you put the silicone in a drive shaft rubber to hold everything together.
@nigelterry9299
@nigelterry9299 14 күн бұрын
Rubber cones? Just like,a REAL Mini....
@3rdpig
@3rdpig 15 күн бұрын
You need an outer sheath over the silicon to prevent over expansion or compressing in an S shape. But how often do coil springs break? I'm 66 and I've never seen a coil spring break that wasn't either modified or severely abused.
@silentferret1049
@silentferret1049 15 күн бұрын
Normally they will break when overloaded like on trucks. I have seen a few cars have broken springs but it might be defects when they were made for those. But yeah they hardly ever break, leaf springs on the other hand.
@MikeRoth-ex1wk
@MikeRoth-ex1wk 15 күн бұрын
Why not use springs inplace of the bushings?
@stevejones9905
@stevejones9905 15 күн бұрын
NEXT TIME: gubka (sponge) AND/OR Memuarnaya pena (Memoir foam )
@6pack1204
@6pack1204 15 күн бұрын
Omg, if the infrastructure doesn't make you depressed, the architecture will. That Lada is, as always, a deathtrap.
@JeffKopis
@JeffKopis 12 күн бұрын
You're experimenting with cars again?? Shocking! 😂
@mrscorpio1998
@mrscorpio1998 15 күн бұрын
Next time a low-riser hydraulic suspension and then building a "hopping" lada
@imronson4366
@imronson4366 15 күн бұрын
Turn that car into a mini truck
@MrEng2009
@MrEng2009 9 күн бұрын
I prefer the spring
@thedevilinthecircuit1414
@thedevilinthecircuit1414 15 күн бұрын
Finally...a useful purpose for a VW Golf. HAHA
@christianfritz6333
@christianfritz6333 8 күн бұрын
Silicone spheres the size of the bushings
@whispro4646
@whispro4646 10 күн бұрын
Nice video
@wrldofmouchy
@wrldofmouchy 15 күн бұрын
Should of put Ribs on the silicone so when it compresses it’s ( hopefully) goes down evenly
@Killertomato84
@Killertomato84 15 күн бұрын
shoot, us lowrider guys are used to riding on bumpstops :D
@nitinverma6441
@nitinverma6441 14 күн бұрын
Can we have a video on replacing coolant with motor oil with good gasket 😂
@Jahzwolf1955
@Jahzwolf1955 15 күн бұрын
This might help me with my crown vic where rhe air bags are deflated.
@mikehutchinson9318
@mikehutchinson9318 15 күн бұрын
TRY VALVE SPRINGS WELDED TO EACH OTHER
@KalebFlowers-vn5ro
@KalebFlowers-vn5ro 13 күн бұрын
Do you ever wonder what else you can use as brake fluid?
@busyguy7479
@busyguy7479 15 күн бұрын
why not try carbon fiber con rods and pistons in a lada engine ?
@oubliette862
@oubliette862 15 күн бұрын
maybe if there were a length of pipe, flared at both ends, with the silicone inside it may work better. the pipe may keep it from crushing and the flared ends may provide space to expand. I've been curious about tires filled with rags, like the mad max car had briefly been, before they wrecked it, you know, 2 minutes into the movie. not to rant about it, but after all these years one would think the movie people would know who the real star is and give us what we want. in my opinion that car is the star. and they crashed it immediately. I tried to see if you guys tried that. I don't like making suggestions that have already been done and I didn't see it. although I can't find the gasifier video either, and I'd like to see it, gasifiers are pretty cool.
@russbilzing5348
@russbilzing5348 15 күн бұрын
In the '30s and'40s, my father had an old Model "T" and he loved to wander the farm roads. Once, he had a flat and his pump proved to be mostly worn out. After patching the tube, he stuffed the tire with hay until he could barely re-seat it on the rim. Then he put as much air into it as he could and travelled about 20 or so miles to the nearest filling station, removed the stuffing and aired the tire up properly. He made a one way valve out of a spark plug, added some tubing and the head of the air pump and kept it in the tool chest bolted to the running board. A lot of Frenchmen used gasifiers to run their cars during the war years.
@oubliette862
@oubliette862 15 күн бұрын
@@russbilzing5348 your father was a man who clearly knew how to think critically, good stuff. I've seen footage of tank fit with gasifiers during the war, all sorts of things. very interesting piece of machinery.
@pazsion
@pazsion 15 күн бұрын
dude i just saw a buggati 35 that has roller bearings for the crankshaft 🤓 you gotta check that out.
@thomasbradley4868
@thomasbradley4868 15 күн бұрын
You should have tried rubber ball for tennis balls
@lesklower7281
@lesklower7281 15 күн бұрын
I don't think any car company will be replacing there springs with Lada shackle bushes any time soon
@izzieb
@izzieb 15 күн бұрын
09:40 When did Alex from Linus Tech Tips start working for Garage 54?
@KelBShobra
@KelBShobra 15 күн бұрын
Make thicker ones!!
@sgottoboni
@sgottoboni 13 күн бұрын
107 % awesome
@NoHope-WhatSoEver
@NoHope-WhatSoEver 15 күн бұрын
Make a boxer 8 out if 2 engines.
@Mostafa-vs8bd
@Mostafa-vs8bd 15 күн бұрын
Or v8
@russbilzing5348
@russbilzing5348 15 күн бұрын
I want to make a V-12 out of 2 225 slant 6 Mopar engines.
@thenewworldchannols1836
@thenewworldchannols1836 15 күн бұрын
Wow
@ramongonzalez2909
@ramongonzalez2909 14 күн бұрын
You should use an electric grease gun as an oil pump and lubricate the engine with grease and see what happens.
@CJC051
@CJC051 8 күн бұрын
I love tire kebabs!!
@gsestream
@gsestream 15 күн бұрын
bbq stick lol
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